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Came across this NAS(network attached storage) solution from Netgear when looking have a central place for all my media files, noticed that Netgear are having a promotion whereby if you buy the product before end of june you can claim a free 500GB hard disk from them:
http://www.netgear.co.uk/free500gbdrive.php

If you have a few computers at home and like to share a lot of files this seems like a great solution!
Notable features (IMO):
Gigabit Ethernet
Can run Squeeze Box server
Can share your media to consoles like XBOX and PS3 (so you can access video, photos, music without using the PC!)
Downloads torrents without a need for PC to be on
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#1
I know this is a NAS drive but for the extra slot seems a bit expensive.

you can buy an omega 500gb NAS drive for £90 odd quid.
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what would be the advantage of using this over an external HDD?
#3
psd99
what would be the advantage of using this over an external HDD?


Its standalone and you can link it into your network.
#4
psd99
what would be the advantage of using this over an external HDD?


Basically stream video,music to your Xbox/PS3 so a media server, BitTorrent client, Backs up folders etc from your laptop/PC

http://www.netgear.com/upload/product/rnd2000/readynas_duo_diagram.gif
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#6
Adam2050
I know this is a NAS drive but for the extra slot seems a bit expensive.

you can buy an omega 500gb NAS drive for £90 odd quid.


So what? You can buy a bare hard drive for 50 quid. Not much point in comparing price on two completely different products though is there :roll:
#7
The obvious alternative is a home server. If you know what this NAS is and does it is not much harder to set up a linux box.

About a year ago there was a series of offers on this site for fujitsu servers at about 115 (no os), about the same time one of the PC mags estimated how much a typical pc would cost in electricity if you left it on all the time ( iirc ) it was about 80-100pa even when the disks had spun down most of the time etc. So, over 3 years, the home server costs about 100 + 3 x 100 = 400.

These devices use a lot less electricity, so over 3 years the cost may be closer to 200 + 3 x 25 = 275.

So, on balance, if you want something that gives you access to your files from anywhere etc, NAS boxes are a good call. Of course YMMV.
#8
Jeezeypeeps
So what? You can buy a bare hard drive for 50 quid. Not much point in comparing price on two completely different products though is there :roll:


Yes i'm coparing two different products, but they both do the same thing, from the post suggested. £200 for something you can do for £100 roughly is my understanding.

Comparing £50 drive to a NAS drive is totally different which I am not.

Simply its cheaper elsewhere.

Adam
#9
Jeezeypeeps;5187968
Not much point in comparing price on two completely different products though is there :roll:


There is every point!
#10
a_pressbutton
The obvious alternative is a home server. If you know what this NAS is and does it is not much harder to set up a linux box.

About a year ago there was a series of offers on this site for fujitsu servers at about 115 (no os), about the same time one of the PC mags estimated how much a typical pc would cost in electricity if you left it on all the time ( iirc ) it was about 80-100pa even when the disks had spun down most of the time etc. So, over 3 years, the home server costs about 100 + 3 x 100 = 400.

These devices use a lot less electricity, so over 3 years the cost may be closer to 200 + 3 x 25 = 275.

So, on balance, if you want something that gives you access to your files from anywhere etc, NAS boxes are a good call. Of course YMMV.


I'm not so sure any more.

Would a NAS use less power than say this

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160807

you can pick up a TB HDD for £65 now which would give you twice the space and you also have the ability to run other services on you machine. You can also use your torrent client of choice rather than whatever is available with the NAS box.

I used to want a nas but now I am looking at a low power media centre that can double as a NAS and torrent downloading machine.

I would guess the Atom machine would probably use about 60w (just a rough guess really) I can't see any power info for this NAS and besides the power consumption of the HDD would have to be added.

edit: Hmm this does support RAID which could give it value.
#11
jamesdew
I'm not so sure any more.

Would a NAS use less power than say this

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160807

you can pick up a TB HDD for £65 now which would give you twice the space and you also have the ability to run other services on you machine. You can also use your torrent client of choice rather than whatever is available with the NAS box.

I used to want a nas but now I am looking at a low power media centre that can double as a NAS and torrent downloading machine.

I would guess the Atom machine would probably use about 60w (just a rough guess really) I can't see any power info for this NAS and besides the power consumption of the HDD would have to be added.

edit: Hmm this does support RAID which could give it value.

It does support some sort of raid process, that is the reason for the 2 bays as it will automatically make a copy of the data on disk 1
#12
I would personally pay the extra £100+ and get something like this http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/BAREBONE_SERVERS.html#a15
#13
coddfather
It does support some sort of raid process, that is the reason for the 2 bays as it will automatically make a copy of the data on disk 1


Ye I guess if you need redundancy I would agree this is a good buy then, otherwise I can't really see any reason any more not to build a low power small cheap linux machine.
#14
coddfather
I would personally pay the extra £100+ and get something like this http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/BAREBONE_SERVERS.html#a15


That doesn't even come with a disk though. But yes, if you are going to have a NAS you might as well do it properly. 5 1TB hdds in there and you could probably store all the media you are ever going to need ever. (well in SD anyway)
#15
jamesdew
Ye I guess if you need redundancy I would agree this is a good buy then, otherwise I can't really see any reason any more not to build a low power small cheap linux machine.


... or use FreeNAS
#16
I've got one of these NAS devices that I bought as a barebones without the 500GB (it was £100 more to buy it with the drive, than without), and added my own 2 @1TB drives at £60 each.

Now moved our Outlook PST folders to it, and can now access our e-mail from any PC/Netbook/Laptop in the house. Plus backup all the PC's to it. I was hoping to use it as an iTunes server as well, but it stops after 90 seconds. No idea what is causing that.

I'd still recommend it.
#17
HipposRule
... or use FreeNAS


Surely I still need a mobo that supports raid to use this with redundancy?

If not please tell me as this would be most interesting to me.
#18
Adam2050
Yes i'm coparing two different products, but they both do the same thing, from the post suggested. £200 for something you can do for £100 roughly is my understanding.

Comparing £50 drive to a NAS drive is totally different which I am not.

Simply its cheaper elsewhere.

Adam


That's not entirely true though is it.....

For starters this does have support for RAID and gives you the opportunity to control which hard drives to use. In addition to that, the server support for different apps/devices (iTunes, PS3 etc.) makes this a very different proposition to the £100 Omega. Therefore, you need to consider whether these things are important to you, and if so, worth paying £100 more for. Obviously, not for you, but there will be people who are willing to do this.

I kinda hate this comparison, but it's like comparing a Ferrari to a Fiat. Both will get you from A to B, but surely it is worth paying slightly more for the Ferrari.....
#19
themanwithapc;5189461
I kinda hate this comparison, but it's like comparing a Ferrari to a Fiat. Both will get you from A to B, but surely it is worth paying slightly more for the Ferrari.....


It is exactly WHY you need to make all these sorts of comparisons - and the comparisons with using a small Linux machine too, without doing it, you will never make the right decision, and will never know that the Ferrari is probably very nice, but an extremely expensive way of getting around until after you have spent the money, and find it a way over the top way of getting maximum bang for minimum buck!
#20
nihcaj
It is exactly WHY you need to make all these sorts of comparisons - and the comparisons with using a small Linux machine too, without doing it, you will never make the right decision, and will never know that the Ferrari is probably very nice, but an extremely expensive way of getting around until after you have spent the money, and find it a way over the top way of getting maximum bang for minimum buck!


The Linux boxes are also a nice comparison, but really my point was to demonstrate that different products with different feature sets cannot be 'the same'.

As it happens, the Linux box may not be someone's best bang for buck, depending on how and where they'd like to use it. For example, what if the time saved by setting up the ReadyNAS meant you could spend that time elsewhere and generate income in excess of the price difference between the 2? Obviously might not be the case, but I'm just trying to highlight that not everyone will obtain the best price/performance ratio by using a Linux box. As always YMMV.

The only thing that is universal and factual is that the ReadyNAS has a very different feature set to the Omega £100 drive and therefore not really 'the same'.
#21
Like most things in this world you get what you pay for - both with power draw and cost.

IIRC the typical NAS device draws around 15w. Obviously the more drives/more features it has, the more power it draws.

And while a £90 NAS should be fine sharing files and even streaming HD video, it isn't going to be able to stream 2 HD Videos at once or d/l bittorrents out of the box** (see below!).

If you need access to your files and a bit of media streaming then the £90 NAS should be fine, but for RAID data protection and bells and whistles then you have to take a step up.

**It should be noted that many of the cheaper NAS boxes have had their firmware hacked to allow them to run all sorts of things - bittorrents, web servers, media servers (many will allow Twonky to be installed) and even newsgroup (nzb) downloads.

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