NEW 2015 Facelift Volkswagen Scirocco R 2.0 Tsi 276bhp saving £5569.76 off RRP £32574 includes 12 months road tax 3 years warranty and free home delivery £27005.23 @ drivethedeal - HotUKDeals
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NEW 2015 Facelift Volkswagen Scirocco R 2.0 Tsi 276bhp saving £5569.76 off RRP £32574 *subject to taking finance on 7.5 apr , if you don't want finance add £1500 for a cash sale*

includes 12 months road tax
3 years warranty
free home delivery @drivethedeal

I have done a bit of research on these and been watching the market on golf R audi s3 and rocco R and these are not dropping much due to long building week

i feel these will hold value better because not many being sold because its more expensive than the Golf R , i also think you maybe be able to get free motoring for 1 year and sell it for the same price you paid for it or if you throw all the good optional extras at it like pani roof keyless entry, satnav, better stereo etc you could get free motoring for upto 2 years imo

adding optional extras to the car will bring the price up but dont forget it will also be discounted but this rocco is highly spec'd up as standard anyway like free vienna leather heated seats worth £1700 , 19" R wheels instead of 18" cost £600+ Dynamic chassis control £800+ where as the Golf R you have to add these and pay extra

also the beautiful Dsg gearbox is available for £28235.54 thats £5839.46 off RRP of £34075

me personally i would go for the Dsg after owning the golf R
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#9
Cold, it's a left hand drive :p
#10
" if you dont want finance add £1500 for a cash sale"

RIP OFF (and you need an apostrophe in don't).
#11
:D
cheapskate100
Cold, it's a left hand drive :p
1 Like #12
BoGoF
:D
cheapskate100
Cold, it's a left hand drive :p

Nice motor, wish I could afford half of one 8)
#13
qbs
" if you dont want finance add £1500 for a cash sale"

RIP OFF (and you need an apostrophe in don't).

how is it a rip off? i agree my spelling and punctuation is not the best but i am trying so stop kicking me when am already down king Henry the 8th
banned 3 Likes #14
qbs
" if you dont want finance add £1500 for a cash sale"

RIP OFF (and you need an apostrophe in don't).

Strange - I thought this was a bargain forum and not an English grammar class............
1 Like #15
cheapskate100
BoGoF
:D
cheapskate100
Cold, it's a left hand drive :p

Nice motor, wish I could afford half of one 8)

if i had spare money i would buy you one and let you own it for a year then sell it that way i made you happy and i havent lost anything 8) but if i was super rich id buy you one for keeps
#16
Or for £2000. Less you.can have a ferrari with 18k miles on the clock convertable 06 plate
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411108881846
Never understood why peolle pay so much for new cars when super cars are the.same price all be it second hand higher insurance and tax but youre driving a god damn ferrari well an mr2 convert replica but hey no one other than a real ferrari owner will know

Edited By: jordni on Dec 18, 2014 01:15
#17
27 thou .................... not lookin no more it will never be mine............. cold on all these ............ "Mobility" deals
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jordni
Or for £2000. Less you.can have a ferrari with 18k miles on the clock convertable 06 plate
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411108881846
Never understood why peolle pay so much for new cars when super cars are the.same price all be it second hand higher insurance and tax but youre driving a god damn ferrari

Do you know how much a car like this costs to maintain?
Even a run of the mill 996 911 will cost you around £1000 a year in maintenance, Ferrari will cost you a lot more than that!

Stick 10,000 miles a year on something like a Ferrari and watch its value plummet. Cars like these are sensitive to less than meticulous ownership.

Also you know that the car you've linked to is a replica? Guess what it is underneath?

A 2006 Toyota MR2 Roadster. Yep, a £4k car dressed up as £50k car. Bargain-tastic!

Edited By: matt3454 on Dec 18, 2014 01:21
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jordni
Or for £2000. Less you.can have a ferrari with 18k miles on the clock convertable 06 plate
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411108881846
Never understood why peolle pay so much for new cars when super cars are the.same price all be it second hand higher insurance and tax but youre driving a god damn ferrari well an mr2 convert replica but hey no one other than a real ferrari owner will know

That's a replica which is unbelievably terrible. You will be mocked to the day you die.
#20
jordni
Or for £2000. Less you.can have a ferrari with 18k miles on the clock convertable 06 plate
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411108881846
Never understood why peolle pay so much for new cars when super cars are the.same price all be it second hand higher insurance and tax but youre driving a god damn ferrari

because its a f430 replica your looking at £62,000 for a second hand one but i understand your point , good thing about classics they should hold value but you wouldn't be able to drive them type of cars everyday and for long distances, i would never buy new and keep that car for more than 2 years and lose money on them.. if i can get free motoring or a 2k loss i can accept that as i dont have to worry about mot and car has warranty
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jordni
Or for £2000. Less you.can have a ferrari with 18k miles on the clock convertable 06 plate
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411108881846
Never understood why peolle pay so much for new cars when super cars are the.same price all be it second hand higher insurance and tax but youre driving a god damn ferrari

Errrmmmm here's why - A 'supercar' will bleed you dry, it will be in the garage being fixed more than on the road,you'll need a fuel tanker behind you at all times,a mortgage will need to be taken out each time it's due a service,need I go on................?
#22
psmith1958
27 thou .................... not lookin no more it will never be mine............. cold on all these ............ "Mobility" deals

no offence but if you cant afford it doesn't mean its a cold deal if you own this for a year and get your money back its not cold but super hot


Edited By: BoGoF on Dec 18, 2014 01:49: spelling
#23
BoGoF
psmith1958
27 thou .................... not lookin no more it will never be mine............. cold on all these ............ "Mobility" deals

no offensive but if you cant afford it doesn't mean its a cold deal if you own this for a year and get your money back its not cold but super hot

no offence, who said I couldn't afford it, if I put my bank statement on here for you to see, it would scare you, why would you want to pay for something you never own, bit like a house on lease .... (that's how I sell them ) ............... this deal is ok if your on mobility... as I said... no worries about tyres, mot, service, just stay under 6k a yr job done Mr VW sales person :)


Edited By: psmith1958 on Dec 18, 2014 01:35
#24
psmith1958
BoGoF
psmith1958
27 thou .................... not lookin no more it will never be mine............. cold on all these ............ "Mobility" deals

no offensive but if you cant afford it doesn't mean its a cold deal if you own this for a year and get your money back its not cold but super hot

no offence, who said I couldn't afford it, if I put my bank statement on here for you to see, it would scare you, why would you want to pay for something you never own, bit like a house on lease .... (that's how I sell them ) ............... this deal is ok if your on mobility... as I said... no worries about tyres, mot, service, just stay under 6k a yr job done Mr VW sales person :)


your original statement came across like you couldn't afford it "27 thou .................... not lookin no more it will never be mine............. " i cant afford it thats for sure money is just paper doesnt buy you respect love and real friends so theres nothing to brag about but my point was about how can something be cold , you say i dont own it... of course you own it!!! i=you can keep it for 20-40 years if you want i think your mixing up leasing and mobilitiy deals this is a new car purchase just like you going to a dealer and buying a new car but discount rates, mobility deals your guaranteed to lose money and have nothing to show for after your term is up
#25
It has 276bhp and front wheel drive.

Not bad for the base spec price but the options kill it. DSG is probably seen as a bit of a must have and the competition is stiff at that price. Rear wheel drive BMW 228i M sport is more fun to drive and has all the same German reassurances in build and residuals even though it would cost similar. Frankly it's a better car. Not only that this is still serious hot hatch money, Megane RS is about as good as it gets and destroys this for driving thrills, along with the Leon Cupra.

You can throw money at a raft of hot hatches these days and not be disappointed there are so many good ones out there.
#26
looks oright could be better so not voting !
#27
I think it's a good deal so heat from me! No need to try and argue with Swiss Tony in the show room over the price either!
#28
So the price is really about £28,500, not £27,000 as to get it at this price you have to have their expensive finance. Adding £1500 for a cash price is a rip off, why don't they just be honest about the price with a lower APR. Next we'll see 'Free Car' subject to our finance at 250%.... for cash payers add £30,000.

It'll be a nice car, to buy in 2-3 years, when it'll probably be around £15k....
#29
Year 0 Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4
Volkswagen Scirocco Coupe 2.0 TSI 280 R 3dr £32,575 £23,275 £19,141 £15,711 £13,414

What Car depreciation calculator has this down for quite high depreciation. I think this is because, despite the marketing rubbish, German build and reliability isn't really up to much, and once a hot VW leaves its warranty period then its going to be vulnerable to some horrific repair costs if (when) anything breaks. Especially DSG, they are a serious liability risk after 3 years.

On balance I think this is a good price for a new car capable of making 276BHP for track fun if that's what you are looking for, if this is the cheapest way for getting into a new Sirocco R then it must qualify as a hot deal. I'll reserve judgement.
1 Like #30
Tooooooorrrrrrrqqqqqqqqquuuuuueeeee steer!

Get the golf R if these are your thing, the 4 wheel drive of the golf makes it so much better to drive in 80% of the UK's weather.
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qbs
" if you dont want finance add £1500 for a cash sale"RIP OFF (and you need an apostrophe in don't).

You take the finance and then get onto VWFS and pay it off in full within 14 days (as you are allowed to do in the cooling off period for the financial package) - they cannot take any freebies or incentives (such as £1500 deposit contribution in this case) off you. You'll have to pay token interest like £5.60 a day. Of course you have to have the cash or another means of paying all lined up.
#32
chedixon
Tooooooorrrrrrrqqqqqqqqquuuuuueeeee steer!

Get the golf R if these are your thing, the 4 wheel drive of the golf makes it so much better to drive in 80% of the UK's weather.

Agree. Plus it looks a lot nicer than this and goes better too. Also one of the few cars where its worth having the auto box.

If the waiting lists for the golf R weren't so long I would have gone for one. I was told a delivery date in march and that was for a sept order!
#33
chedixon
Tooooooorrrrrrrqqqqqqqqquuuuuueeeee steer!

Get the golf R if these are your thing, the 4 wheel drive of the golf makes it so much better to drive in 80% of the UK's weather.

Engineers are getting to grips with torque steer now, this car and many other recent ones use balanced drive shafts, where they are not the same length the short one is made with less torsional stiffness to match the long one. The effect is very reduced. I think actually getting the front wheels to grip forward traction is the bigger problem, with the traction control kicking in and cutting the usable power. Shouldn't really be a problem for normal road driving though, if the driver is any good at all.
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I've owned 2 VW Sciroccos (and currently own a MK7 Golf GTD, waiting for an R on order), and they're great cars - the design was a real breath of fresh air until all and sundry started copying it's lines (Clio, A-class merc etc). There's a big but though.... its 20ps down on the Golf, doesn't have 4WD, and even taking that into account, the new MQB chassis that the Golf has and this doesn't (as it's based on the MK5 Golf, albeit facelifted) is a huge improvement in driving dynamics and handling.

The Scirocco has VW leather included, but VW leather is crap, sags quickly and anything that isn't in direct contact with the driver's body is Vinyl "pleather" (never worth 1/2 the £1740 VW usually charge for it across the models). It costs around £2k more than the Golf R and for that you get your "free" leather, 19" Cadiz wheels (Golf R comes with 18" Cadiz) and DCC (for altering the stiffness of the suspension) - the DCC does go some way to redress the ride comfort considering the inferior chassis (compared to MQB). The Golf R comes with other useful items such as hill hold, ACC (radar controlled cruise control and pre-warning system of obstacles in front, the car in front braking sharply etc - it can brake for you if it doesn't think you're reacting in time), colour MFD, and a few other bits that are all options on the Scirocco.

If you pick this Scirocco over the Golf R you're getting a car that arguably looks better, but is less powerful, doesn't handle as well and doesn't have 4WD, for about the same price you'll pay for a discounted R 3dr manual.

It isn't much less practical than a 3 door Golf. If you can be bothered to climb into the back you'll notice the 2 seats will accomodate 6ft adults with ease and the Boot is around the same size (although deeper and not as long on the Scirocco).

It'll definitely stand out from the crowd more than the Golf R, as there are fewer Sciroccos around, and from the front at least, the Golf R looks a lot like the lower denomination Golfs (The GTD and GTI look sportier at the front than the Golf R IMO).

The Scirocco R has a lot going for it, but asides the looks, the Golf R is a better car in almost every way. The GFV for both cars are around the same, so depreciation should be almost identical.

So if you were picking between the 2 cars, do you want the car that looks better or drives better, for about the same money?


Edited By: monkeyhanger75 on Dec 18, 2014 08:20
#35
jaydeeuk1
If the waiting lists for the golf R weren't so long I would have gone for one. I was told a delivery date in march and that was for a sept order!

I'm in that boat right now - Sept order, initially looking like a March delivery (what I wanted), but anticipated build week has slipped 11 weeks. It's looking more like May for mine now - but I have a fixed p/x price for my GTD.
#36
androoski
chedixon
Tooooooorrrrrrrqqqqqqqqquuuuuueeeee steer! Get the golf R if these are your thing, the 4 wheel drive of the golf makes it so much better to drive in 80% of the UK's weather.
Engineers are getting to grips with torque steer now, this car and many other recent ones use balanced drive shafts, where they are not the same length the short one is made with less torsional stiffness to match the long one. The effect is very reduced. I think actually getting the front wheels to grip forward traction is the bigger problem, with the traction control kicking in and cutting the usable power. Shouldn't really be a problem for normal road driving though, if the driver is any good at all.

Initial traction can be a big thing with VWs, mainly due to VW's tyre choices. My MK7 Golf GTD will tramp a lot if you give it more than 1/2 throttle in the dry to pull away in 1st, and even making progress in 3rd, if I floor it around 50mph I can get the traction control to kick in. My GTD came with woeful Bridgestones though, a few other people I know have the same car but their came with Contis and Pirellis, no tramping issues at all for them.
#37
qbs
" if you dont want finance add £1500 for a cash sale"

RIP OFF (and you need an apostrophe in don't).

Actually, there should be a comma afer finance and a full stop at the end as well !

Not too sure if the letter i (if) at the beginning of the statement should be a capitol though !!
#38
5Bells
So the price is really about £28,500, not £27,000 as to get it at this price you have to have their expensive finance. Adding £1500 for a cash price is a rip off, why don't they just be honest about the price with a lower APR. Next we'll see 'Free Car' subject to our finance at 250%.... for cash payers add £30,000. It'll be a nice car, to buy in 2-3 years, when it'll probably be around £15k....

You'll pay around £20k for a 3 year old one of these at a VW used forecourt. GFV is £15700, in reality you'll get about £17k in p/x off your next VW if you don't simply hand the keys back and walk away. The dealership will aim to make 15-20% on all their used cars, bringing it up to £20k. This is why I buy VWs new with a big discount - they have your eyes out for a nearly new one. Id rather buy new at 88% of RRP than buy 3 years old with only a token warranty at 65% of new RRP.
#39
monkeyhanger75
I've owned 2 VW Sciroccos (and currently own a MK7 Golf GTD, waiting for an R on order), and they're great cars - the design was a real breath of fresh air until all and sundry started copying it's lines (Clio, A-class merc etc).

You could say the new shape (2008) Scirocco (and the others) very much copied the lines of the Alfa Brera which was released 2 years earlier.
http://www.motorstown.com/images/alfa-romeo-brera-coupe-08.jpg

Edited By: Dusterfluster on Dec 18, 2014 09:05
#40
monkeyhanger75
[quote=5Bells]
You'll pay around £20k for a 3 year old one of these at a VW used forecourt. GFV is £15700, in reality you'll get about £17k in p/x off your next VW if you don't simply hand the keys back and walk away. The dealership will aim to make 15-20% on all their used cars, bringing it up to £20k. This is why I buy VWs new with a big discount - they have your eyes out for a nearly new one. Id rather buy new at 88% of RRP than buy 3 years old with only a token warranty at 65% of new RRP.

Personally I would be very surprised you would get £17K for one of these at three years old.
PX on a Golf GTI 2011 is £11,500 and were £24,454 list so expect to lose about 53% off list.

Only way you get a higher PX is over paying on the headline price on the new car you buy. So either way you will end up paying around the same when you come to PX, people who inflate PX prices inflate sale prices also.

Edited By: Dusterfluster on Dec 18, 2014 09:19

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