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Amazing price for the replacement of the probably the most popular 42" plasma. Now all in black (its the new black you know) and accepts 1080P via processing (not native 1080p display). Not that 1080P is important at 42" but nice to know the TV can accept this resolution when things finally get broadcast/released in it.

This is only £50 or so more than the superb outgoing model (42-PX60)

Overview: * 1080p Digital Processing Chip-Set * 1080p Digital Re-Mastering Processor * 3,072 Equivalent Steps of Graduation * Max. 10,000 : 1 Contrast * Digital Optimizer * Advanced 3D Colour Management * Motion Pattern Noise Reduction * Sub-Pixel Controller

TV Tuner: * Tuner Integrated: Yes * DVB Digital Tuner: Yes * Tuning System: PLL synthesizer 100-position auto-search tuner: * Broadcast Stereo Reception: NICAM (FM) * Fastext: 1500P Level 2.5, FASTEXT/LIST/TOP * Receiving System: PAL -I, DVB * AV-NTSC: PAL-525/60, NTSC, M-NTSC

Display: * Screen Size / Screen Aspect: 42 inch (106 cm) diagonal * Panel: G10 Progressive HD Plasma Display Panel * Number of Pixels: 786,432 (1,024 x 768) pixels * Applicable PC Signals: XGA (SXGA compressed) * Displayable Colours: Max 29 billion equavalent colours for darker part * Contrast Ratio: Max. 10,000:1

Sound: * Speakers: Full-Range x 2 * Audio Output: 20 W (10 W x 2), 10 percent * Ambience: Yes

Terminals: * HDMI: 2 * PC Input: Mini D-sub 15-pin x 1 (rear) * Audio Input (for PC): RCA phono type connectors (L, R) (1 set, rear) * Component Video Input: RCA phono type x 3 (Y , PB, PR) (rear) * Audio Input (for Component Video): RCA phono type connectors (L, R) (1 set, rear) * Audio Output: RCA phono type connectors (L, R) (1 set rear), Headphone jack (1 front: with Audio Description)

Features: * Screen Saver: Wobbling * Multi Window: PAT * Aspect Controls: Panasonic Auto/16:9/14:9/4:3/Zoom1/Zoom2/Zoom3

Power And Dimensions: * Power Supply: AC 220 - 240 V, 50/60Hz * Dimensions (W x H x D): 1020 x 680 x 97

This year is seeing the real price drop of flat screens and this can only be good for us, the consumers. The 50" version of this and the others from the new range are coming in at price points so much lower than expected, especially the 1080P models that are going to be £1900ish for the 42" and £2500ish for the 50" (makes the current pioneer 50" 1080p look a little expensive at £6000.
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#1
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#2
Beatiful cabinet version also up on play.com for £1199.99

CLICK HERE

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#3
Going by their past models, this will probably produce a terrific picture.

The "1080p input" thing is a bit of superfluous marketing speak though - literally every plasma can do that.
#4
arfster
Going by their past models, this will probably produce a terrific picture.

The "1080p input" thing is a bit of superfluous marketing speak though - literally every plasma can do that.


Took the words right out of my mouth mate.

Still seems a great buy although I no longer have hands on experience with this sort of thing so can no longer really comment. :x
#5
i love the fact i paid 1500 notes or the42px60 only 8 months ago
#6
Geoggy
i love the fact i paid 1500 notes or the42px60 only 8 months ago

Bummer!!

but if we wait forever we'll never have the things we want...there is never a right time.
#7
If only I hadn't bought............NO I can't afford it! Great find.
#8
Geoggy
i love the fact i paid 1500 notes or the42px60 only 8 months ago


Which was a great buy and will serve you well. By the time 1080p becomes mainstream in the UK you may decide it's worthwhile upgrading. And that will be a long time.

Unless you want to game on your tv or have a HD/Bluray drive then a 1080p is a long long long way off for the mianstream user.

In the UK even your TV has not reached it full potentila!!

Just be happy with your purchase as it really is one of the best you can get!!
#9
Is there even any point in buying this?
1024x768 is a bit lame.
Whats the point in being able to accept a 1080p signal if it can't display it at that resolution.
Save yer pennies and get an actual 1080p screen.

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#10
azazael
Is there even any point in buying this?
1024x768 is a bit lame.
Whats the point in being able to accept a 1080p signal if it can't display it at that resolution.
Save yer pennies and get an actual 1080p screen.

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Hello i'm new :)


Please read and understand what your reading before jumping in with both guns firing.

Welcome to the best forum on the net by the way. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-064.gif
#11
beerman1
Please read and understand what your reading before jumping in with both guns firing.


No one misunderstands on purpose and to ask them to 'please understand' doesn't make sense. Perhaps azazael hasn't jumped in with both guns firing and your explanation about signal resolutions may help.

Understanding isn't a choice!
#12
Looks like a lovely tv. Shame they hadn't done a black version of the PX60 as that would have swayed me towards it.

I think what Beerman means is that for a 42" screen and from normal viewing distance you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. The 1080p screen in these models will become standard but the current price premium is more to attract the people who just can't buy anything but the "best". i.e a money spinner by the tv manufacturers.
#13
PZ700 series takes real 1080p and Full HD Panel.

TH-50PZ700 costs £2500 or less which is a real bargain, when pioneer costs £5000 or more for same specs


arfster
Going by their past models, this will probably produce a terrific picture.

The "1080p input" thing is a bit of superfluous marketing speak though - literally every plasma can do that.
1 Like #14
yep but the 50in 1080p versions have 50% less contrast than the 720p versions

1080p 5000:1
720p 10000:1

not good at all since samsung are bringing out 15000:1 contrast sets this year in 720p and 1080p and pionners have upgraded theres to
panasonic have changed the look and added a couple of tweeks to these sets over the old ones not a hugh upgrade at all but we will see when reviews come out anyway heres some model infos for you and dates

TH-42PX70PED
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1024 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, PC Input 3 x Scarts, 2 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes pedestal. (Available in March'07) £1037.28

TH-42PX70CAB
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1024 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 2 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Cabinet. (Available in March'07) £1200.72

TH-42PX700CAB
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1024 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes CABINET. (Available in April'07) £1457.26

TH-42PX700WALL
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1024 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes WALL BRACKET. (Available in April'07) £1285.60

TH-42PX700PED
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1024 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Pedestal. (Available in April'07) £1285.60

TH-42PZ700PED
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1920 X 1080 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real PRO 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 5,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 4096 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, AVCHD/MPEGS & HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Pedestal. (Available in June'07) £1971.33

TH-42PZ700WALL
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1920 X 1080 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real PRO 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 5,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 4096 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, AVCHD/MPEGS & HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Wall Bracket. (Available in June'07) £1971.33

TH-42PZ700CAB
106cm V Plasma Panel, 1920 X 1080 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real PRO 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 5,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 4096 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, AVCHD/MPEGS & HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Cabinet. (Available in June'07) £2210.04



TH-50PX7B
127cm V Plasma Panel, 1366X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 8000:1 Contrast Ratio, 2048 Shades Gradation, 3 x Scarts, 1 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes H style Pedestal stand. (Available in July'07) £1371.52

TH-50PX70WALL
127cm V Plasma Panel, 1366 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 2 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Wall Bracket. (Available in April'07) £1543.10

TH-50PX70PED
127cm V Plasma Panel, 1366 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 2 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes pedestal. (Available in April'07) £1543.10

TH-50PX70CAB
127cm V Plasma Panel, 1366 X 768 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 10,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 3072 Shades Gradation, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 2 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Cabinet. (Available in April'07) £1799.64

TH-50PZ700PED
127cm V Plasma Panel, 1920 X 1080 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real PRO 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 5,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 4096 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, AVCHD/MPEGS & HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Pedestal. (Available in May'07) £2468.36

TH-50PZ700WALL
127cm V Plasma Panel, 1920 X 1080 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real PRO 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 5,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 4096 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, AVCHD/MPEGS & HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK, Includes Wall Bracket. (Available in May'07) £2468.36

TH-50PZ700CAB
127cm V Plasma Panel, 1920 X 1080 resolution, Ultra Slim, Intergrated Digital Tuner, 7 Day EPG, V- Real PRO 2 Technology, 1080p Processing and Remastering, 5,000:1 Contrast Ratio, 4096 Shades Gradation, SRS Trusurround XT, AVCHD/MPEGS & HD - JPEG VIEWER, PC Input, 3 x Scarts, 3 x HDMI WITH VEIRA LINK Includes Cabinet. (Available in May'07) £2714.64
#15
When are HD channels going to be freely available?

I heard recently that it may not be for years and when they are properly available it's highly likely they won't be aired on Freeview.
#16
This price is going to cause a bit of consternation on the Panasonic auction site. The ones with the cabinet TH-42PX70CAB (I think) are already over £1152 and not due to end until Thursday there are 25 on offer.

http://mybid.panasonic.co.uk/home.asp
#17
Panasonic never dissappointed me, since their 6 series panels.

I don't believe in contrast ratios :), i may be wrong but if that's the criteria samsung must have gain leading position in plasma panels

meridiusuk
yep but the 50in 1080p versions have 50% less contrast than the 720p versions

1080p 5000:1
720p 10000:1

not good at all since samsung are bringing out 15000:1 contrast sets
#18
Contrast ratios quoted by manufacturers cannot be relied on or even taken into account. They are a farce. :giggle:
#19
beerman1
Which was a great buy and will serve you well. By the time 1080p becomes mainstream in the UK you may decide it's worthwhile upgrading. And that will be a long time.

Unless you want to game on your tv or have a HD/Bluray drive then a 1080p is a long long long way off for the mianstream user.

In the UK even your TV has not reached it full potentila!!

Just be happy with your purchase as it really is one of the best you can get!!


love the tv mate - hate the fact it dropped in price so much ;)
#20
Dont forget %2 Quidco :thumbsup:
#21
arfster
Going by their past models, this will probably produce a terrific picture.

The "1080p input" thing is a bit of superfluous marketing speak though - literally every plasma can do that.

Well I have the PX60 and that can't accept a 1080p input only 1080i.
suspended#22
wait 6 months for 1080p 120hz tv's to come out. currently tvs are 60hz and there is blurr in fast motion scenes, 120hz will solve this.
#23
please tell me, to the 'normal' person, for watching tv, is there a great deal of difference between this model and the previous 60 model? im a bit concerned about the htz, what is it on either telly? anyone know? also, can the tv with the pedestal be put onto the wall - if i get the bracket sepourate? thanks, clare x
#24
also, anyone read up on the 'purple snakes' on the 60 models? seems like it might be best to wait til this one has been out a while and read reviews - wouldnt like to make a mistake like that, saying that, we always buy panasonic and have never had any probs b4, but with such a large amount for money - i would like to hear others opinions. im glad i read up on the 60 model, i almost bought that a little while ago. ahh well - live and learn!
#25
hajj_3
wait 6 months for 1080p 120hz tv's to come out. currently tvs are 60hz and there is blurr in fast motion scenes, 120hz will solve this.


Mainly a problem with LCD, never noticed any blur on my plasma.
#26
hocka
also, anyone read up on the 'purple snakes' on the 60 models? seems like it might be best to wait til this one has been out a while and read reviews - wouldnt like to make a mistake like that, saying that, we always buy panasonic and have never had any probs b4, but with such a large amount for money - i would like to hear others opinions. im glad i read up on the 60 model, i almost bought that a little while ago. ahh well - live and learn!


Its one of those things thats happened to a few people with the PX60. Obviously if you are one of the few its an issue, but the people that seem most upset about it seem to actively go looking for the effect which only ever happens under a certain few lighting/colours. I have had the 42px60 for nearly a year now and never seen the effect once, even if I did it seems you may see this for like 10 seconds out of 10 hours of viewing. Like any other problem on such a massivley popular product things tend to get a little out of proportion on forums etc.
#27
neither on my PX600, since June 06.

I don't think it's worth to upgrade unless we get 1080p SKY HD / Virgin HD.

Adidas Addict
I have had the 42px60 for nearly a year now and never seen the effect once
#28
Adidas Addict
Contrast ratios quoted by manufacturers cannot be relied on or even taken into account. They are a farce. :giggle:


Apparently the method of measurement varies widely from manufacturer to manufacturer so to take a figure quoted is foolish & possibly (probably) misleading.

Best just to view sets on their own merit.
#29
I'm not sure of the Etiquette required here but Multiregionmagic.co.uk have it for £899!+p&p, which they dont actually quote! probably be £50 though. They are at Peterborough so it's £50 cheaper if you can collect. (when they get them in stock of course!) http://www.mrmdvd.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_95&products_id=658
#30
zzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Bought one.

Love the fact that it is in full black.
#31
still pioneer is black beauty, but back to topic - excellent bargain, voted HOT

crazymonkey
Love the fact that it is in full black.
#32
arfster
The "1080p input" thing is a bit of superfluous marketing speak though - literally every plasma can do that.


Oh so wrong.
#33
retropolis
No one misunderstands on purpose and to ask them to 'please understand' doesn't make sense. Perhaps azazael hasn't jumped in with both guns firing and your explanation about signal resolutions may help.

Understanding isn't a choice!


I did not ask them if they understood it or not, I asked them to understand what they are reading before making comments. If they don;t understand then simply don't comment. In other words if they had took their time to even read what was wrote then they would realise that their comment was just stupid.

Why should people not buy a 720p tv? In the UK we have not even got mainsteam 720p broadcast and will not get it for a long long time. So why the heck should people go out and buy a dedicated 1080p tv? As I said the only people who will benefit are those who have Bluray or HD drives, or own a high end console.
#34
Originally Posted by arfster
The "1080p input" thing is a bit of superfluous marketing speak though - literally every plasma can do that.

simate
Oh so wrong.


How is that so wrong?

Of course most tv's that are recently built can accept a 1080 signal. It does not mean they can reproduce that on screen, they just downscale it to the tv's native resolution.

So you are saying that my tv will not accept a 1080 feed? SO what will I get on screen? A blank screen? So if I connected a HD drive to my old crt tv and put a HD disc in and pressed play what would I get on screen?

I will tell you, I will get to watch the movie that is what I would get. It would be pushed into my tv at 1080 then my tv would simply display it at it's max native resolution.
#35
ive read elsewhere that some previous panny plasmas would not accept a 1080p input and would display a blank screen
#36
beerman1 - Only if your TV can accept a 1080p signal, which a lot of older Viera's cannot.

For example my old Viera, cannot accept 720p or 1080p signals, however it can display 1080i signals fine.
#37
720i, 1080p - it's all doing my head in. Don't get me wrong, I understand the terminology, and I'm not bothered about getting 1080p, but the possibility of getting a black screen if the signal is of the wrong type is scary. I just want something to watch TV and play my XBox 360 on - You shouldn't need to be a professor of consumer electronics just to buy a flaming TV!!! :x
I was already to buy this set (or possibly the 37 inch version), but now it looks like I've got more homework to do. 42 inches is waaaaay to big for my room, but at only £50 more than the 37 incher, what a dilemma!!!
#38
MattSwain
720i, 1080p - it's all doing my head in. Don't get me wrong, I understand the terminology, and I'm not bothered about getting 1080p, but the possibility of getting a black screen if the signal is of the wrong type is scary. I just want something to watch TV and play my XBox 360 on - You shouldn't need to be a professor of consumer electronics just to buy a flaming TV!!! :x
I was already to buy this set (or possibly the 37 inch version), but now it looks like I've got more homework to do. 42 inches is waaaaay to big for my room, but at only £50 more than the 37 incher, what a dilemma!!!


Its a known fact that most people who opt for a 37" after roughly 2 months wish they had gone for a 42". My living room is only small, we sit around 8ft from my 42" plasma and its a perfect viewing distance. How far you gonna sit from the TV?
#39
My decision was originally 32 or 37 and I rejected 32 for the reason that you say Adidas Addict, I'd always wish I got the bigger set. Equally I saw some 40/42 inch sets in the shops and thought 'whoa too big', but for £50 more I will have to think again. I guess on average I sit about 8 feet away also, but it was more in relation to the room size I was concerned - it's hardly going to go unnoticed!
#40
beerman1
Originally Posted by arfster
The "1080p input" thing is a bit of superfluous marketing speak though - literally every plasma can do that.



How is that so wrong?

Of course most tv's that are recently built can accept a 1080 signal. It does not mean they can reproduce that on screen, they just downscale it to the tv's native resolution.

So you are saying that my tv will not accept a 1080 feed? SO what will I get on screen? A blank screen? So if I connected a HD drive to my old crt tv and put a HD disc in and pressed play what would I get on screen?

I will tell you, I will get to watch the movie that is what I would get. It would be pushed into my tv at 1080 then my tv would simply display it at it's max native resolution.


Most 'HD Ready' plasmas will accept a 1080i signal (interlaced) not 1080p (progressive)

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