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Nikon DSLR inc Lens for £236.16

£30 cashback from Nikon plus free 2 year warranty http://www.nikon.co.uk/sites/cashback/spring2008_default.html
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#1
this would have been nice except for 6.1mp shame, for me anyway
#2
great price
#3
saayinla
this would have been nice except for 6.1mp shame, for me anyway


6.1mp is ample, this is a DSLR, not a compact P&S.
banned#4
seconded 6.1mp is more than enough for most people
unless your blwing your photos up to A2 size most people only have printers that will do A4
#5
You can get this a little cheaper from Dixons http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/store/dix_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1487607872.1212342678@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeeffjkmdjcflgceggdhhmdfhj.0&page=Accessory&sku=667219, £231.16 after £30 cashback and using voucher AW5. If you use Quidco, then it's even cheaper - £228.27.
#6
jazzy639;2221834
6.1mp is ample, this is a DSLR, not a compact P&S.


Thirded. I've got a Casio Exilim 6mp and my stepson has the D40. Both 6 megapixels, but there's no comparison between the quality of the photos he gets and mine. His are just stunning. Take a look at the comparative photos on Steves Digicams if you're in doubt - I always use the one with the surfboards and look for the blades of grass in the sand.

Tim
#7
A 6mp DSLR will thrash a 10mp compact for picture quality and sharpness, its down to the size and quality of the optics, and the size of the sensor, the bigger sensor in a DSLR means you get less image noise. Another advantage is that you can see exactly what the camera has focused on through the viewfinder, rather than relying on a moderate resolution backscreen (which is not very visible in daylight).
banned#8
I'm waiting for a 40mp camera to come out as I intend to take a full size picture of wembley
banned#9
People always neglect a major advantage of a higher pixel rate... the ability to crop images with little to no loss in quality. Yes 6mp may be fine for A4 prints but what if you just wanted half your image blowing up to A4, then you have a problem at 6mp.
#10
SHOWMAN36
I'm waiting for a 40mp camera to come out as I intend to take a full size picture of wembley

Well you could get a Medium format camera with a 39MP PhaseOne or Hasselblad back, but that's 1MP short so how about a 138MP camera?
#11
master_chief
People always neglect a major advantage of a higher pixel rate... the ability to crop images with little to no loss in quality. Yes 6mp may be fine for A4 prints but what if you just wanted half your image blowing up to A4, then you have a problem at 6mp.


I think you are missing the point, the guys here are trying to make the point that 6Mp on this camera is far superior to a multi mega 10Mpixel compact. I had a D50 which was 6Mpixel as well and the quality will stand a great deal of enlarging. This is a great camera for this money and perfect for students or amateur photograhers requiring a decent bit of quality :thumbsup:
banned#12
mosskeeto
I think you are missing the point, the guys here are trying to make the point that 6Mp on this camera is far superior to a multi mega 10Mpixel compact. I had a D50 which was 6Mpixel as well and the quality will stand a great deal of enlarging. This is a great camera for this money and perfect for students or amateur photograhers requiring a decent bit of quality :thumbsup:


That's the way the thread went but I was agreeing with the first guy who posted about it not being enough, everyone else started the compact comparison.
#13
master_chief
That's the way the thread went but I was agreeing with the first guy who posted about it not being enough, everyone else started the compact comparison.


Thanks for the point, I have quite a few cameras some compact and some slr (pre-digital) and I know what i meant when I talked about a bigger megapixels, I have been taking photographs for over 9 years now, over six of these a pro. I know exactly what I needed the camera for, not to be lectured about sufficiency of a 6mp campact camera. And I beleive camera manufacturers did produce 10mp digital SLR's for a reason.
#14
saayinla
And I beleive camera manufacturers did produce 10mp digital SLR's for a reason.


Our point is, a 6MP DSLR is superior to a 10 or 12MP compact. So people that are not into photography know that this camera is good.
banned#15
jazzy639
Our point is, a 6MP DSLR is superior to a 10 or 12MP compact. So people that are not into photography know that this camera is good.


If people are not into photography then surely they'll stick with a compact, unless they intend on getting into photography.
#16
saayinla
this would have been nice except for 6.1mp shame, [SIZE="4"]for me anyway[/SIZE]


jazzy639
Our point is, a 6MP DSLR is superior to a 10 or 12MP compact. So people that are not into photography know that this camera is good.


Did i not make it clear in my first post that my comment was meant for me alone? so am not people that are not into photography.
#17
saayinla
Did i not make it clear in my first post that my comment was meant for me alone? so am not people that are not into photography.


sorry lol, hope other people find this a good deal
#18
hmm.. just bought a fuji s9600 yesterday....!
banned#19
saayinla;2222477
Did i not make it clear in my first post that my comment was meant for me alone? so am not people that are not into photography.


Whats up got the Sunday blues? what a sourpuss you are.
#20
master_chief
People always neglect a major advantage of a higher pixel rate... the ability to crop images with little to no loss in quality. Yes 6mp may be fine for A4 prints but what if you just wanted half your image blowing up to A4, then you have a problem at 6mp.


Are you so bad at framing that you need to throw away 50% of every photo you ever take then? :whistling:
banned#21
joylove
Are you so bad at framing that you need to throw away 50% of every photo you ever take then? :whistling:


To be honest I am. I'm a terrible photographer which is why they make 10mp+ cameras, for the less talented around.
#22
saayinla
this would have been nice except for 6.1mp shame, for me anyway


Clueless poster Alert :roll:
banned#23
mikeyw
Clueless poster Alert :roll:


You've read every post in the thread right?
#24
mikeyw
Clueless poster Alert :roll:


How about you lecture me on cameras then
#25
Yeah - sound like you need a zoom lens or some composition lessons.

This camera is awesome - Get one and see for yourself.
banned#26
mikeyw
Yeah - sound like you need a zoom lens or some composition lessons.

This camera is awesome - Get one and see for yourself.


Not my posts, the guy you are putting down! You're a rude little man.

So you've never ever cropped an image??
#27
I too own this camera, tok some superb photographs with it.

http://www.flickr.com/cameras/nikon/d40/

Go chck there for some exceptional photo's. And remembr kids, the camera is only a third of taking a good photograph :)
#28
SHOWMAN36
Whats up got the Sunday blues? what a sourpuss you are.


Am not sour and am not picking up a fight, some people just post like they know it all, I dont always have time to reply to every post and I just look on in annoyance.
#29
Whatever - Anyone daft enough to listen to advice from someone who clearly knows nothing about photography doesn't deserve a D40 at such a cracking price.

I'm average height by the way.
banned#30
saayinla;2222801
Am not sour and am not picking up a fight, some people just post like they know it all, I dont always have time to reply to every post and I just look on in annoyance.


I'd go back to your photography if I were you.
#31
joylove;2222627
Are you so bad at framing that you need to throw away 50% of every photo you ever take then? :whistling:


If you only have a kit lens or prime, then you can crop in to a photo in post to achieve the same effect as having had a larger zoom. The more MP/resolution you have, the easier it is.
banned#32
master_chief
People always neglect a major advantage of a higher pixel rate... the ability to crop images with little to no loss in quality. Yes 6mp may be fine for A4 prints but what if you just wanted half your image blowing up to A4, then you have a problem at 6mp.


Nonsense.

If the quality of your 10 million pixels is worse than your 6 million you achieve nothing. That does not even have to be just the comparison between a DSLR sensor and a compact sensor size. A Canon / Nikon etc pro sensor may have less pixels than one of their pro consumer/consumer cameras, but the image produced will be better with the pro camera.

What you will find is that the sensor in that pro camera will appear in the pro consumer camera some 6 - 9 months down the line.

Until sensors are mass produced they will always cost more per pixel. Hencepart of the reason the high price pro cameras can cost. But they will have the cutting edge sensor inside them, not the highest anount of pixels.
#33
The_Hoff
I too own this camera, tok some superb photographs with it.

http://www.flickr.com/cameras/nikon/d40/

Go chck there for some exceptional photo's. And remembr kids, the camera is only a third of taking a good photograph :)


Not bad - imagine how much better they'd have been at 12megapixels :roll:
#34
orlando08
Depends how seriously you are, or intend getting into photography. The Fuji won't disappoint but the Nikon is superior from the point of being able to change lenses, add a flash gun, lens filters, as well as shooting in RAW format...etc....... but now we're going into serious photography buff territory....

if you want a top end P&S then stick with the Fuji..... :thumbsup:


Cool, I think I made the right choice. Don't want to muck around with swapping lens etc. Point & shoot & a little flexibility to play with.

I know some people say there is no need for these bridge cameras, but I think they are fab, the video mode is meant to be V-good also. Time will tell.....

Nice 1 :)
banned#35
The whole mega pixel has spun round sice it first became an issue. Everybody used to go on about how important the mega pixel rate was (and it was from say 1mp to 5mp) but then people started wising up and realised MP aren't everything. So now it's become a case of if you dare mention MP you get put down as ignorant or stupid, but remember the pixel rate is a feature of camera, yes it's not the full measure of a camera but it is none the less a feature which can surely be mentioned as a positive or negative?
banned#36
Lyrrad
Nonsense.

If the quality of your 10 million pixels is worse than your 6 million you achieve nothing. That does not even have to be just the comparison between a DSLR sensor and a compact sensor size. A Canon / Nikon etc pro sensor may have less pixels than one of their pro consumer/consumer cameras, but the image produced will be better with the pro camera.

What you will find is that the sensor in that pro camera will appear in the pro consumer camera some 6 - 9 months down the line.

Until sensors are mass produced they will always cost more per pixel. Hencepart of the reason the high price pro cameras can cost. But they will have the cutting edge sensor inside them, not the highest anount of pixels.


Well what if the quality of my 10mp DSLR is the same as your 6mp, now where is your argument?
banned#37
sburley
If you only have a kit lens or prime, then you can crop in to a photo in post to achieve the same effect as having had a larger zoom. The more MP/resolution you have, the easier it is.


Are you telling me it is possible to replace a 300mm 2.8 lens with a 50mm lens and a bit of Photoshop. Bird photographers spend many thousands of pounds on lenses and your suggestion sadly shows how digital photgraphy can mislead
#38
Lyrrad;2222877
Are you telling me it is possible to replace a 300mm 2.8 lens with a 50mm lens and a bit of Photoshop. Bird photographers spend many thousands of pounds on lenses and your suggestion sadly shows how digital photgraphy can mislead


No I didn't tell you that.
A bird photographer goes out to shoot in specific circumstances where extremely long lenses are the norm.
banned#39
master_chief
Well what if the quality of my 10mp DSLR is the same as your 6mp, now where is your argument?



Well as it so happens I use Fuji Astia/Velvia,

However if the 6pm was good enough to crop the image without any noticable difference to the naked eye what advantage would your 10mp have.
#40
Pointless argument guys, this camera is very good and a 10 megapixel camera in general will be very good. Unless you're printing very large photos the extra megapixels won't really help. It all comes down to quality of the sensors/lens etc.

If you're really serious about taking perfect photos then this is the camera for you, if not then get a fuji s9600. It'll still take some great photos but will require less money spent on it/time to learn it.

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