Nokia Lumia 920 sim free £459.95 instore phones4u

the porter

is it deffinatly sim free though have you tried another sim ?

These are not network unlocked. They will only work with EE group sim cards. If they tell you differently in-store, then demand to try it out there and then with your sim card pre-purchase.

Their definition of sim free is not the same as everyone elses.
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P4U have an exclusive on the red and yellow Nokia Lumia 920 handsets.

Don't forget you get a FREE wireless charging plate.

The SIM-Free means it will work with any sim card.

What I think the Nokia employee would have meant, was EE is the only carrier you can use to get 4G with the Lumia 920. That is true currently though next year will change when the other carriers get access to the 4G network. (Vodafones looks pretty promising!)

Anyway, legally Sim-Free does mean unlocked so you don't have to worry. The Phones4U guy confirmed to me yesterday I could use my O2 sim in the unlocked Lumia 920 so I'll just confirm that when I buy it again.

The 4G costs from EE are crazy. DO NOT GET LOCKED INTO A 24 MONTH CONTRACT WITH EE! Those prices are phenomenal and they can do it as they currently have a monopoly on 4G. In a few months when other providers start releasing their plans, you'll see a price war form. Get this Sim-Free, then get a Sim only 4G contract from another provider later down the line and you'll save money and get more data

Man alive. Stock on Phones 4 U website now saying order today for delivery on 19/11, was 6/11 then 13/11 yesterday. I phoned around Bristol area today and no one had received stock in store but a couple hopeful for Saturday. I did get advised that if stocks were low it was unlikely they would be offering them out on sim free. Going by the website the white one definitely is EE only though which is perhaps why it shows on the display with only 4g next to it, i.e they wont sell it on anything else at the moment. I'd really like to get this phone. Finding it frustrating that Apple seem to be the only company capable of saying when something will be on sale it is. Windows and Android alike really need to get their act together for the flagship phone launches. It's hard to maintain the buzz when no one has a bloody clue.

imsraj

its now available to order online. black, white and red … its now available to order online. black, white and red availablehttp://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_justphones_sub.asp?ManKey=1&ITK=10&intcid=payg-hot-NokiaRead lessRead more

YES! THANK YOU!!!

My store failed to get any in today, so this will do just fine

homerd

Do you get the code for the free charging plate with the sim free … Do you get the code for the free charging plate with the sim free versions? as unlike the contract phones it doesn't mention it in the product descriptionRead lessRead more

According to the instore advert it does, but I have no idea why online should be any different.

Very brief review, given that I only got the phone at 5, and I've been down the pub since then... First impressions are that it's a really nice handset. You soon forget the weight - it's actually no heavier than the old nokias of years gone by. Also got a chance to compare the camera in low light against a Galaxy S2 and an iPhone 5. 920 was the clear winner. It's a responsive handset, and so far I've got no complaints at all. It's on charge now, so I'll have a full go at it tomorrow when the hangover clears.

I'm sorry SavageKitten, I fear you're going to be disappointed.

In the UK, at least, it's generally understood that 'SIM free' means it's unlocked to all networks. It's my understanding that selling 'SIM free', i.e. without a SIM or contract at point of sale, but locked to a particular network, is common in other countries, e.g. the US. Anyway, it's all to do with the exclusivity deals between Nokia/P4U/EE on the 920 and it's their own fault it's gone bottom over elbow and they'll have to deal with scores of annoyed customers thinking they're getting a real SIM free phone. Of course, phones can be unlocked, but the buzz is, like mattech says, they aren't playing ball - yet; It's their exclusivity deal they're protecting.

Most of the staff in most of the P4U stores and online support have no idea of this snafu and are providing incorrect advice/information to people buying SIM free handsets. I myself got mislead in an online chat.

In the defence of P4U staff, in the past the SIM free phones they've sold may have been unlocked to all networks, but the release of this new handset (920) has been polluted with underhand exclusivity deals and related last minute EE firmware updates (allegedly).

I'm voting with my feet and taking my money to Germany. I want a truely unlocked, brand-free, sim free Lumia 920, without having to mess around waiting for a network to grant me unhindered use of my own, unsubsidised, property.





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I'm afraid the unlock codes they think work do not. I can verify this as it happened to me. Here's my experience though:
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Just bought in orange pay as you go in EE shop for 410. I got free wezc headphones and will get free charging plate. This phone is awesome !

I ordered a red one online so ill post if its locked or not once it has arrived!

the porter

mate is yours online from p4u?if it comes tomorrow and its locked pm me … mate is yours online from p4u?if it comes tomorrow and its locked pm me so i can cancel my order pleaseRead lessRead more

Yeah from P4U.

Will post back on here and pm you once ive tested it.

the porter

its not sim free from ee i guarantee it as i bought 1 and its locked

You're incorrect.

Sim-Free is still locked in this case. I'm not saying the one from EE isn't locked, I'm saying it's Sim-Free.

So T-Mobile, Orange and EE sim's will work in the EE handset for £409.99. It's exactly the same handset as the £469.99 one from P4U.

It just means I have the effort of returning it to one store and re-purchasing the same thing from 2 doors down (if they have it in stock). Wish me luck

Striker dont let me stop you

Do you have some proof? I phoned them earlier and they had no idea if it was going to be available sim free nor the price

The 900 was available sim free instore only so it would follow the pattern. Now we just need some proof.

True but the 900 wasn't exclusive to one network and one retailer was it? if i remember you could buy the 900 from a few retailers could you not?

Got my Lumia 800 for £129 from them, so I'm more than happy with that. I'm a convert to Windows phones X)

cpc3232

True but the 900 wasn't exclusive to one network and one retailer was it? … True but the 900 wasn't exclusive to one network and one retailer was it? if i remember you could buy the 900 from a few retailers could you not?Read lessRead more

Yes you could, except for the white and Batman ones which were P4u exclusives.

cpc3232

Do you have some proof? I phoned them earlier and they had no idea if it … Do you have some proof? I phoned them earlier and they had no idea if it was going to be available sim free nor the priceRead lessRead more

It looks like red and yellow exclusive to P4U - white exclusive to buy from EE.

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Well this is some good news. that price aint bad either! ill pop down on saturday. I really want a red or yellow one so thats good
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cpc3232

Do you have some proof? I phoned them earlier and they had no idea if it … Do you have some proof? I phoned them earlier and they had no idea if it was going to be available sim free nor the priceRead lessRead more

I went back to get a picture but they had taken the price down and put coming soon instead but mister.c. has provided us with proof instead.

cpc3232

Well this is some good news. that price aint bad either! ill pop down on … Well this is some good news. that price aint bad either! ill pop down on saturday. I really want a red or yellow one so thats goodRead lessRead more

I really want blue but no sign of that except in america

jonathonpm

I really want blue but no sign of that except in america

No its AT&T exclusive for now i think it wasnt a launch colour so i think its gonna be a while before it appears here

My next phone where do you get the 2nd Nov from?

jonathonpm

I really want blue but no sign of that except in america

The same, im pretty **** off to be honest. I bought the Cyan purity over ear headphones and now I can't get one in that colour, just because I am in the wrong country.

cpc3232

No its AT&T exclusive for now i think it wasnt a launch colour so i think … No its AT&T exclusive for now i think it wasnt a launch colour so i think its gonna be a while before it appears hereRead lessRead more

I know AT&T have an exclusive but normally when they talk about exclusives they mean within a certain county not around the world as why does AT&T care if we can get it on contract over here?

Surely, better spec phones available less than this?

Voted Cold.

Flab09

Surely, better spec phones available less than this?Voted Cold.

And they are? Nothing comes close to the camera on this for a start. The Ativ s is close in price and while the 8X is cheaper its lower spec
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Flab09

Surely, better spec phones available less than this?Voted Cold.

I wonder if he's referring to android phones? In windows phone, ram and processor isnt as significant as android as the OS itself is buttery smooth. and nokia 920 - is tempting because of the awesome camera! damn you hukd! and damn you wallet for having no money

mnorhelmi_razali

I wonder if he's referring to android phones? In windows phone, ram and … I wonder if he's referring to android phones? In windows phone, ram and processor isnt as significant as android as the OS itself is buttery smooth. and nokia 920 - is tempting because of the awesome camera! damn you hukd! and damn you wallet for having no money Read lessRead more

True but even on the android side of things how many phones are there that are actually better? Its not a cheap phone but i think its specs show its a high end device and this is the sort of price high end phones get.

trebleutd

My next phone where do you get the 2nd Nov from?

Clove are getting their HTC orders in on the 2nd and shipping Monday. So I think this is the in stock date for most of the handsets. If the Nokia wasn't available they would be shooting themselves in the foot. Having said that, Clove haven't got a price on that one yet so not confirmed by a long shot.

I asked in p4u yesterday RE the sim only advert....they were pretty sure it won't b available until demand dies down... I.e only sell it with contracts initially ...obviously fingers crossed that's not the case :s

I asked nokia uk on twitter about sim-free devices and they told me they would still be locked to EE (and I presume Orange and T-Mobile). That sucks bad.

Peew971

I asked nokia uk on twitter about sim-free devices and they told me they … I asked nokia uk on twitter about sim-free devices and they told me they would still be locked to EE (and I presume Orange and T-Mobile). That sucks bad.Read lessRead more

If that's the case then I hope Nokia are prepared for the **** that will descend upon them for advertising it as sim-free.

Sim-free means unlocked, and usable with any sim card that supports the frequencies available on the device. So even if you buy this from P4U, and it doesn't work on your non-EE sim, you can take it back easily enough. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

On the other hand, it could quite easily be EE's attempt to force customers onto a ridiculous contract. Given how awful their reputation is, I wouldn't put it past them.

Sim-free phones in the US are still locked to carriers so it could be them trying to extend that practice to the UK but that wouldn't be received too well. We'll know soon enough.

Peew971

Sim-free phones in the US are still locked to carriers so it could be … Sim-free phones in the US are still locked to carriers so it could be them trying to extend that practice to the UK but that wouldn't be received too well. We'll know soon enough.Read lessRead more

Can see there being an uproar about it at some point if true. Especially when companies like Amazon make a lot of money from selling sim-free phones.

MercilessKiller

The SIM-Free means it will work with any sim card.What I think the Nokia … The SIM-Free means it will work with any sim card.What I think the Nokia employee would have meant, was EE is the only carrier you can use to get 4G with the Lumia 920. That is true currently though next year will change when the other carriers get access to the 4G network. (Vodafones looks pretty promising!)Anyway, legally Sim-Free does mean unlocked so you don't have to worry. The Phones4U guy confirmed to me yesterday I could use my O2 sim in the unlocked Lumia 920 so I'll just confirm that when I buy it again.The 4G costs from EE are crazy. DO NOT GET LOCKED INTO A 24 MONTH CONTRACT WITH EE! Those prices are phenomenal and they can do it as they currently have a monopoly on 4G. In a few months when other providers start releasing their plans, you'll see a price war form. Get this Sim-Free, then get a Sim only 4G contract from another provider later down the line and you'll save money and get more data Read lessRead more

Ah good, I have nothing to worry about then Will be going over tomorrow to see if they have stock, although I'm not holding my breath.

EE could have gained so many customers by making their tarrifs reasonable. The 12 month contracts aren't too bad, but I think I'd cry myself to sleep every night seeing £51 come out of the bank every month for a phone contract.

striker33

Ah good, I have nothing to worry about then Will be going over … Ah good, I have nothing to worry about then Will be going over tomorrow to see if they have stock, although I'm not holding my breath.EE could have gained so many customers by making their tarrifs reasonable. The 12 month contracts aren't too bad, but I think I'd cry myself to sleep every night seeing £51 come out of the bank every month for a phone contract.Read lessRead more

There's a few more problems other than price. 4G will up-scale your downloads meaning the same iPlayer video will use less of your data package in 3G mode then it will in 4G mode. That means your data will get used faster, not because you're accessing more content, but because it up-scales and downloads content automatically in better quality.

I would severely recommend Sim Only deals with all 4G phones until June when the networks open up

Just a quick update, according to phones4u, the 920 wont be arriving till sometime next week, even though the official launch is tomorrow.

striker33

Just a quick update, according to phones4u, the 920 wont be arriving till … Just a quick update, according to phones4u, the 920 wont be arriving till sometime next week, even though the official launch is tomorrow.Read lessRead more

Where did you hear that mate? Phones4u told me to call tomorrow morning so they can reserve me one...