Nvidia GTX 470 £297.25 @ dabs - HotUKDeals
We use cookie files to improve site functionality and personalisation. By continuing to use HUKD, you accept our cookie and privacy policy.
Get the HUKD app free at Google Play

Search Error

An error occurred when searching, please try again!

Login / Sign UpSubmit
-77Expired

Nvidia GTX 470 £297.25 @ dabs

Willie_Hmmm Avatar
6y, 8m agoFound 6 years, 8 months ago
This is my first deal, so be gentle with me.

This is the new Fermi based Nvidia card. This is the slower of the 2 new models. Cards are due to be with retailers in the first 2 weeks of April.

This is the lowest price I could find, the next cheapest I could see was at eclipse computers for £293 + £9.50 delivery = £302.50.

These new cards have had mixed reviews, most saying they run too hot (90c+) and they aren't significantly faster than the AMD competition.

Positives are that this card is on a par with the AMD 5870 and usually beats it when AA (anti aliasing) is turned up full. It is also cheaper than the 5870 by some £20 - £60.

If you aren't a particular fan of either Nvidia or AMD, the best thing to do is read the reviews and see which performs best with the games you play and at the resolution you'll be playing at.

If, like me, you have a 3D vision capable monitor and have been waiting for these cards since they were leaked 6 months ago, this deal is for you.

Full tech specs are below.

Graphics Engine GeForce GTX470
Bus Standard PCI Express® 2.0
Video Memory 1280MB GDDR5
Engine Clock 607 MHz
CUDA Core Clock 1215MHz
Memory Clock 3348MHz (837MHz GDDR5)
Memory Interface 320bit
DVI Max. Resolution 2560 * 1600
DSub Max. Resolution 2048 * 1536
DVI Output 2x Native Dual-link DVI-I
HDMI Output 1x Native HDMI (Mini HDMI)
D-Sub Output 1x via adapter
HDCP compliant YES
Software Bundled ASUS Utilities & Driver
Design Garage & Supersonic Sled Application
Note The card size is 10" x 5" inch
Deal Tags:
More From Dabs:

All Comments

(23) Jump to unreadPost a comment
Comments/page:
#1
Can't really vote either way until we have some reliable benchmarks pitting it against the top-end Radeons.
#2
TehJumpingJawa
Can't really vote either way until we have some reliable benchmarks pitting it against the top-end Radeons.


Reviews have been online since last Friday evening.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846.html

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_gtx480/

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/30321-nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-review.html
#3
#4
I thought these were gonna be £220? Or is Europe being ripped off again:x

Oops actually Fudzilla predicted £300 beginning of March my mistake.
#5
Exchange rates are hurting imports. Everything is automatically 30% more expensive to import than 18 months ago. If only we'd joined the Euro, oh well...
#6
Yeah I would be interested in the 470 out of the two, it's just the heat issues putting me off a bit. Voted hot for what its worth:thumbsup:
#7
I read one review and they said that the gtx-480 hit 99 degrees centigrade.
I don't know what the safe limit is temp. wise but it can't be much higher than that.

These are noisy, power hungry, hot and expensive. They are not the ultimate as has been said since they were first announced.
I can see problems later with reports of burnt out chips or other pc components effected by heat.

Do you really want to play a game with the sound of a Vax machine?
Apparently you can buy a replacement cooler for £100.


ATI have a new design at the end of year with new architecture and also 2GB 5870's out soon.
#8
The review at Tom's hardware had it hit 96c for the 470 and 97c for the 480. It supposedly can go to 105c which just seems incredibly hot to me, but if you're going to burn it out, do it within 12 months and RMA it.

The 5970 hit 95c and the 5870 hit 92c, so they aren't that much cooler, but the 5970 is faster for that reduced heat.

My first Radeon 4850 used to hit 90c regular, and you could smell it cooking away, still running fine today though.
#9
Willie_Hmmm
The review at Tom's hardware had it hit 96c for the 470 and 97c for the 480. It supposedly can go to 105c which just seems incredibly hot to me, but if you're going to burn it out, do it within 12 months and RMA it.

The 5970 hit 95c and the 5870 hit 92c, so they aren't that much cooler, but the 5970 is faster for that reduced heat.

My first Radeon 4850 used to hit 90c regular, and you could smell it cooking away, still running fine today though.


Thats hot but i dont know what ATI 5000`s you using but most say and mine run cold around the 50 mark even when playing MW2 for 6 hours
#10
Those figures came from torture testing with furmark, it's sole purpose is to warm cards up and get them to where they run as hot as they can.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846-15.html

Real world gaming temps aren't mentioned, but those figures point to temps being higher than the AMD offerings.
#11
Would prefer the radeon 5870 for the same price. £298 inc delivery, and a free game

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/175996

Nvidia really cocked up on their pricing.ATI will probbaly drop in the next month or two when the mid range 400's come out.
#12
According to the reviews I've read, the Radeon 5870 is about equal to the Nvidia GTX 470, with the 470 eeking out ahead when AA (anti aliasing) is turned up full.

At that price it's a coin toss between the two, but this is certainly the cheapest GTX 470 I've found available.
#13
If I had to go for a 400 series, the 480 would be the one to go for. Other than the 5970, nothing comes close (until ATI release the 5890 in summer). I wonder who will blink first and drop prices, at £300, the ATI 5870 would be the one to go for at the moment.
Or perhaps 2 5770s - a fair bit quicker than a single 5870, and can be ad for well under £300.

eg two of these for under £260 inc delivery and not far off a 480gtx!!

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191864
#14
Wonder which reviews you've read as all the ones I've seen put it slower than the 5870 by about 10% (except for Dirt where some reviewers didn't notice that the GTXs were running in DX9 instead of 11 mode and so compared two different code paths).

You might want to listen to:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review/7

To give you an idea of what it sounds like while running BTW.

And the other problem reported is that if you try running dual monitor then the cards run at about 90C + as the card requires quite a bit of power to drive the dual display - that applies if you are just internet browsing.
#15
good in depth review on bit-tech

Quotes:

"Only in Dirt 2 at sub-30in resolutions was the GTX 470 conclusively faster than the HD 5870, but even in this game the HD 5870 gained the fps lead at 2,560 x 1,600."

"However, the GTX 470 can only just play Chaos Rising at 1,920 x 1,200 with 4x AA (with a minimum of 24fps, compared with the 21fps minimum of the HD 5870)"

"Add to this mediocre game performance the noise of the cooler, which is greater than that of the HD 5870, and the much higher power consumption and GPU temperature, and it’s difficult to see any reason to opt for a GeForce GTX 470 over a Radeon HD 5870."
#16
welshworrier
Wonder which reviews you've read as all the ones I've seen put it slower than the 5870 by about 10% (except for Dirt where some reviewers didn't notice that the GTXs were running in DX9 instead of 11 mode and so compared two different code paths).

You might want to listen to:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review/7

To give you an idea of what it sounds like while running BTW.

And the other problem reported is that if you try running dual monitor then the cards run at about 90C + as the card requires quite a bit of power to drive the dual display - that applies if you are just internet browsing.


My assumption that the GTX 470 is equal to the 5870 is based on these results:

COD/mw2 470 wins 4 tests until 2560x1600, where it is within 2fps of the 5870.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846-8.html

Dirt 2, equal, 470 wins 3 tests, 5870 wins 3 tests. With x4AA, it wins 2, and loses by 3fps at 2560x1600.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846-9.html

Crysis, 5870 wins 5 to 1, but it's still unplayable at 2560 x 1600 even on the 5970
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846-10.html

Stalker, 5870 wins 5 -1 again but 470 is never more than 3fps slower with x4 AA
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846-11.html

Metro 2033, patchy result but 470 wins 3 test, 1 draw and 5870 wins 1.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846-12.html

Battlefield bad company 2 - 5870 wins 4 -2 but 470 wins 2 with x8 AA and is only 2fps slower in x8 AA at 2560 x 1600.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-480,review-31846-13.html

All these test have the games running at the exact same settings. For some reason the 480 sli review you mentioned doesn't and so the results aren't comparing like for like. Not sure why they did that.

So it is my assumption that the GTX 470 is almost always marginally faster with AA enabled and never more than 2 or 3fps slower when the 5870 wins. Therefore they are of roughly equal performance, but the GTX 470 in this deal is cheaper than the average price for 5870, which I've found to be about £310 - £350. Someone mentioned a £270 deal on Amazon with no availability but for cards available, the best I could do was £310 and I wouldn't pay £10 more for a high end card that is generally slower than this card when you turn on AA.

In fairness this card isn't available yet, you will still wait a week or two for delivery, assuming they are telling us the truth about due dates.
#17
droitwichgal
good in depth review on bit-tech

Quotes:

"Only in Dirt 2 at sub-30in resolutions was the GTX 470 conclusively faster than the HD 5870, but even in this game the HD 5870 gained the fps lead at 2,560 x 1,600."

"However, the GTX 470 can only just play Chaos Rising at 1,920 x 1,200 with 4x AA (with a minimum of 24fps, compared with the 21fps minimum of the HD 5870)"

"Add to this mediocre game performance the noise of the cooler, which is greater than that of the HD 5870, and the much higher power consumption and GPU temperature, and it’s difficult to see any reason to opt for a GeForce GTX 470 over a Radeon HD 5870."


My monitor is a 1680 x 1050 120Hz jobby,

470 is 20% faster at this rez. for Modern Warfare 2.

470 is 8% faster with AA enabled for dirt 2.

Slower for Stalker & Crysis.

8% faster with AA in battlefield.

15% faster with AA in Metro 2033.

It holds up well at all other resolutions with AA, when it is usally faster or within a few fps.

And it's cheaper.

For me it seems a good deal but I appreciate not everyone agrees.

I'm going to have to sacrifice a x3 way xfire 4850 to accomodate this or the 480. I'm window shopping just now (and hoping prices fall too) but I fully intend to put my money where my mouth is.

I need nvidia to get the best out of my monitor and 3D glasses but I think it competes well against the competion on its own merits too.
#18
Would have been a good deal had the Sapphire HD5870 VAPOR-X OC Graphics Card £291.43 not been honoured but Amazon just emailed to say they are shipping 9-12th April :w00t:
#19
northernlights
Would have been a good deal had the Sapphire HD5870 VAPOR-X OC Graphics Card £291.43 not been honoured but Amazon just emailed to say they are shipping 9-12th April :w00t:


Ooh, now showing as £360. Well done to those who saved £70 on it.

There are places selling at £304. Overclockers.co.uk

I'll start another deal as this is the cheapest I've seen who have 5780s currently in stock.

If nothing else, it'd be interesting to see who votes it cold just because it's a £300 graphics card and who votes it hot 'cos it's not a new Nvidia... We shall see.
#20
-50 degrees. Nvidia can only dream of such temperatures ;)
#21
jaydeeuk1
-50 degrees. Nvidia can only dream of such temperatures ;)


Yeah, those Nvidia cards runs so darn hot, as much as 5 degrees hotter than those cool as ice AMD cards!

This deal is -69 just now but no one has pointed to it selling cheaper anywhere else, so I feel vindicated that this is the cheapest available version of this card.

I stand by the decision to post this so that those looking for the best deal can search this site and see what is currently the hottest uk deal for an Nvidia GTX 470.
#22
And draw 100W plus over the Ati cards, and, if you checked any of the reviews apart from toms hardware you'd see they run slower than the Ati 5870 cards.

To quote the Anandtech review:
Moving on, we have the GTX 470 to discuss. It’s not NVIDIA’s headliner so it’s easy to get lost in the shuffle. With a price right between the 5850 and 5870, it delivers performance right where you’d expect it to be. At 5-10% slower than the 5870 on average, it’s actually a straightforward value proposition: you get 90-95% of the performance for around 87% of the price. It’s not a huge bargain,

The price differential is even less in the UK with Dabs having the 5870 at £309.

Thats why people have been voting it cold I imagine.
#23
welshworrier
And draw 100W plus over the Ati cards, and, if you checked any of the reviews apart from toms hardware you'd see they run slower than the Ati 5870 cards.

To quote the Anandtech review:


The price differential is even less in the UK with Dabs having the 5870 at £309.

Thats why people have been voting it cold I imagine.


Well, Tom's Hardware has the 470 drawing 368 watts under load while the 5870 draws 317 watts.

So that's 51 watts as opposed to 100 watts +.

hardwarecanucks.com has the power draw with the 470 drawing 32 watts more than the 5870.

And the anandtech review has it drawing 33 watts more in furmark and 47 watts more in Crysis.

As for performance. Here are my selective quotes from hardwarecanucks.com.

AvP
"Things don’t start off too well for the GTX 470 since it starts its journey running neck and neck with the HD 5830 at 1680 resolution. Luckily, things really start looking good when AA is enabled and it can sometimes actually vault past the HD 5870"

Battlefield bad company 2
"The trend started in AvP continues here with good famerates at and below 1920/ 4x but we are seeing a bit of inconsistent performance out of the GTX 470 once it hits 2560 resolution. As we stated in the GTX 480 review, according to NVIDIA this is a driver issue and should be fixed shortly."

Dirt 2
"Dirt 2 performance (on the 470) is simply stunning at anything below that pesky 2560 x 1600"

Far Cry 2 (DX9)
"Far Cry 2 definitely benefits NVIDIA’s new architecture since we see the GTX 470 consistently beating not only the HD 5850 but also the HD 5870. These are impressive results to say the least."

Far Cry 2 (DX10 8xAA, HDR, Ultra)
"The impressive performance in Far Cry 2 continues for this card as it is able to stay ahead of the HD 5870"

Left for Dead 2
"The Left 4 Dead 2 performance for the GTX 470 is impressive to say the least; particularly when it comes to minimum framerates in comparison to the HD 5850. It has a small slip-up at 2560 x 1600 but then brings things back on track again and finishes the 4xAA test with a very good result."

Metro 2033
"The GTX 470 continues to put down some extremely promising numbers by consistently beating the HD 5870 and leaving the HD 5850 in the dust."

Unigine: Heaven v2.0 (DX11)
"NVIDIA has endlessly described the GF100’s advantage when it comes to tessellation performance and these results definitely seem to back up their claims. The GTX 470 runs neck and neck with the HD 5870 when tessellation is disabled but pulls ahead when it is turned on."

"it seems like ATI’s cards do indeed take a harder performance impact than the GF100-based cards when tessellation is enabled "

"The simple fact is that the GTX 470 really comes into its own when tessellation is enabled"

Performance per dollar/pound
"the GTX 470 makes itself look extremely tempting for customers who want the most amount of performance for their money. As expected, the gap between the two cards actually increases when AA is enabled."

Anandtechs review certainly shows several games where AMD is the daddy, but other reviews have the 470 competing alongside the 5870 in most tiles without AA, then when AA is enabled, the 470 takes the lead.

Admittedly never in Crysis or in Stalker, the AMD always leads, just as the Nvidia always leads in Far Cry 2, Dirt 2 and Left for Dead 2.

Maybe the Nvidia cards are only good at running sequels!

To be fair, this site has the prices much closer than will be available in the UK, so the performance to pound has the 470 do less well than suggested, but it's a solid decent card and when drivers mature and when this years forthcoming titles start using tesselation for their gorgeous visuals, this card which is currently cheaper than the 5870, will perform some 20% better.

see here:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/30321-nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-review-21.html

Post a Comment

You don't need an account to leave a comment. Just enter your email address. We'll keep it private.

...OR log in with your social account

...OR comment using your social account

Top of Page
Thanks for your comment! Keep it up!
We just need to have a quick look and it will be live soon.
The community is happy to hear your opinion! Keep contributing!