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Update your computer with this OCZ Vertex Plus Series SATA II solid state hard drive.

This OCZ Vertex Plus Series SSD boasts a 4 KB random read performance of 12,000 IOPS. The maximum read speed is 250 MB/sec and the maximum write speed is 160 MB/sec.
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#1
+ 7.00 delivery and its pixmania, cold
3 Likes #2
the price includes delivery
#3
gurujosh
the price includes delivery

Needs putting in the thread title :)
#4
Not bad if you're one of those people who trust pixmania. I'm five minutes away from one of their warehouses so one foot out of line.... :D
#5
using a ssd now, quality they are. laptop is superfast.
2 Likes #6
Voted cold.

The OCZ Agility 3 is much faster (up to around 4x), more reliable and cheaper too.

Link - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ocz-120gb-agility-3-ssd-114-99-delivered-ebuyer-1139696

Edited By: therod on Feb 18, 2012 19:23: Reliability added.
1 Like #7
Cold, these old OCZ drives are very unreliable and as pointed out, slower than new drives.
#8
therod
Voted cold.

The OCZ Agility 3 is much faster (up to around 4x) and cheaper too.

Link - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ocz-120gb-agility-3-ssd-114-99-delivered-ebuyer-1139696

I'm confused... I tried to make the maths make sense... But... Last I checked £96.72 is a fair amount cheaper than £114.99... Am I wrong?

But yeah, haven't heard much good from OCZ drives, still a great price, just be wary of it going wrong, back up often!
#9
hero9989
therod
Voted cold.

The OCZ Agility 3 is much faster (up to around 4x) and cheaper too.

Link - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ocz-120gb-agility-3-ssd-114-99-delivered-ebuyer-1139696

I'm confused... I tried to make the maths make sense... But... Last I checked £96.72 is a fair amount cheaper than £114.99... Am I wrong?

But yeah, haven't heard much good from OCZ drives, still a great price, just be wary of it going wrong, back up often!


The price said £120 when I posted my comment. As of your post it has now been corrected.
1 Like #10
therod
Voted cold.

The OCZ Agility 3 is much faster (up to around 4x), more reliable and cheaper too.

Link - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ocz-120gb-agility-3-ssd-114-99-delivered-ebuyer-1139696


Are you assuming everyone is upgrading on latest SATA III motherboards? or is this slow for a SATA II?
No point paying more for SATA III if you're using older hardware and can find a decent SATA II SSD
5 Likes #11
OCZ + pixmania = unreliability squared
#12
Gold Feet
therod
Voted cold.

The OCZ Agility 3 is much faster (up to around 4x), more reliable and cheaper too.

Link - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ocz-120gb-agility-3-ssd-114-99-delivered-ebuyer-1139696


Are you assuming everyone is upgrading on latest SATA III motherboards? or is this slow for a SATA II?
No point paying more for SATA III if you're using older hardware and can find a decent SATA II SSD

Although SATA2 is limited to around 300mb/s max sequential reads, it can still take advantage of better random read performance on the newer SATA3 drives, even if not getting the full boost of the new interface. But the speed isn't the only reason to avoid these: as others say, they are also unreliable.
4 Likes #13
OCZ: live fast, die young...
#14
Weenie Beenie
Cold, these old OCZ drives are very unreliable and as pointed out, slower than new drives.


In the real world you won't notice a difference (ehhh 0.2 sec faster boot time anyone?) and majority of laptops/desktops haven't got SATA 3 so even the fastest SSD on earth will be just as fast as this one.

Edited By: plap on Feb 18, 2012 21:58
#15
plap
Weenie Beenie
Cold, these old OCZ drives are very unreliable and as pointed out, slower than new drives.


In the real world you won't notice a difference (ehhh 0.2 sec faster boot time anyone?) and majority of laptops/desktops haven't got SATA 3 so even the fastest SSD on earth will be just as fast as this one.


speed isn't the problem with OCZ, reliability is, their sandforce drives have a terrible reputation.
#16
All this hate for OCZ = bandwagonism much?

I've had a few OCZ SSD drives and none have died as of yet....
#17
how much faster would this make my laptop which has a 7200rpm hard drive? i don't think it's worth the upgrade price but i'm not sure, ( i7 2670qm, 4gb ram) also does anyone know if the pagefile makes any difference to speed? somewhere i read that disabling the pagefile increases speed
#18
much faster mate, mine loads up before the wireless card can enable.
1 Like #19
joseph1102
how much faster would this make my laptop which has a 7200rpm hard drive? i don't think it's worth the upgrade price but i'm not sure, ( i7 2670qm, 4gb ram) also does anyone know if the pagefile makes any difference to speed? somewhere i read that disabling the pagefile increases speed


The information you read was incorrect. No you absolutely should not be disabling the page file.

Microsoft don't recommend disabling the pagefile on an SSD, an SSD is one of the best places to put the paging file.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx

http://www.howtogeek.com/95915/heres-why-disabling-the-windows-pagefile-is-pointless/

http://www.tweakhound.com/2011/10/10/the-windows-7-pagefile-and-running-without-one/

http://lifehacker.com/5426041/understanding-the-windows-pagefile-and-why-you-shouldnt-disable-it

How to configure paging file if you really have the "configure the paging file itch" and need to scratch it, don't bother reading this if you aren't in to technical advice >

http://blogs.technet.com/b/markrussinovich/archive/2008/11/17/3155406.aspx




Edited By: fishmaster on Feb 18, 2012 23:25
1 Like #20
joseph1102
how much faster would this make my laptop which has a 7200rpm hard drive? i don't think it's worth the upgrade price but i'm not sure, ( i7 2670qm, 4gb ram) also does anyone know if the pagefile makes any difference to speed? somewhere i read that disabling the pagefile increases speed


An SSD is definitely worth it, forget about boot times (which will be increased), that's not the reason to get one, the reason to get one is the vastly improved multitasking capability (based on disk I/O). I have a 1st generation core i3 laptop, I can now boot up in 20 seconds to a usable system, I can run a full MSE scan, and open IE9, Chrome, Firefox, File Explorer and they open up seemlessly as I click them. An SSD will not make your computer lightning super fast, but you will notice the difference especially if you multitask. If all you do is boot up and open up a web browser and stay on that all the time, then an SSD may feel like a bit of a let down. Essentially the more you push your pc the more reward you're likely to see from your investment in an SSD. I just like the fact that I can run what I like when I like and the laptop absolutely never bogs down.

With regard to the bootup and stay in a web browser all session brigade, then maybe try putting your web browser cache in a ramdisk, as long as you have the spare ram >

http://lifehacker.com/5730541/move-firefox-and-chromes-cache-to-a-ram-disk-for-faster-browsing

Edited By: fishmaster on Feb 18, 2012 23:34
#21
joseph1102
how much faster would this make my laptop which has a 7200rpm hard drive? i don't think it's worth the upgrade price but i'm not sure, ( i7 2670qm, 4gb ram) also does anyone know if the pagefile makes any difference to speed? somewhere i read that disabling the pagefile increases speed


My 4.5 year old mac with SSD feels faster than the latest ones in the apple store without SSD.
#22
I have a Core 2 Duo T7100 1.8 GHz Vaio laptop with 2gb ram. Mainly used for photo editing with Photoshop whilst away from the office PC. The motherboard won’t take any more ram. Would I get a worthwhile speed increase from fitting an SSD?
#23
I have a win 7 laptop acer 5336, would this be okay to upgrade the hdd.
Also how easy is it to copy the drive data across, as I don't have the win 7 disc,only a backup in D: which is just a partition of main drive
#24
Stevie-boy
I have a Core 2 Duo T7100 1.8 GHz Vaio laptop with 2gb ram. Mainly used for photo editing with Photoshop whilst away from the office PC. The motherboard won’t take any more ram. Would I get a worthwhile speed increase from fitting an SSD?


Should be Sata II so yes
#25
rob200375
I have a win 7 laptop acer 5336, would this be okay to upgrade the hdd.
Also how easy is it to copy the drive data across, as I don't have the win 7 disc,only a backup in D: which is just a partition of main drive


You could download a MSDN iso image of your particular flavour of Windows 7, burn it correctly to DVD and use the C.O.A (windows licence) on the underneath of your laptop to register it, but that means doing a fresh install.

You can clone your drive and have the correct alignment, see the following >

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?60340-cloning-HDD-gt-SSD-*with-alignment*-quickly-with-GParted

Someone else will probably post other simpler methods using free software, I can't remember or think of any free ones that will give you the correct partition alignment when cloning from HDD to SSD but I'm sure I've seen them mentioned on here.
#26
Re the pagefile - see advice above. I met Mark Russinovitch week before last in Redmond. The man is *the* definitive answer.

Edited By: landwomble on Feb 19, 2012 10:51
#27
landwomble
Re the pagefile - see advice above. I met Mark Russinovitch week before last in Redmond. The man is *the* definitive answer.


Absolutely, you won't get better computer technical advice for Windows anywhere else. My day off today and I'm researching setting up an email server, the fun of having a day off work lol. Research complete > wamp, hmailserver, squirrelmail. Will use no-ip for static ip and just need to find out if I need to setup mxrecords/sp record.


Edited By: fishmaster on Feb 19, 2012 12:41: Are you being served?
#28
fishmaster
joseph1102
how much faster would this make my laptop which has a 7200rpm hard drive? i don't think it's worth the upgrade price but i'm not sure, ( i7 2670qm, 4gb ram) also does anyone know if the pagefile makes any difference to speed? somewhere i read that disabling the pagefile increases speed


The information you read was incorrect. No you absolutely should not be disabling the page file.

Microsoft don't recommend disabling the pagefile on an SSD, an SSD is one of the best places to put the paging file.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx

http://www.howtogeek.com/95915/heres-why-disabling-the-windows-pagefile-is-pointless/

http://www.tweakhound.com/2011/10/10/the-windows-7-pagefile-and-running-without-one/

http://lifehacker.com/5426041/understanding-the-windows-pagefile-and-why-you-shouldnt-disable-it

How to configure paging file if you really have the "configure the paging file itch" and need to scratch it, don't bother reading this if you aren't in to technical advice >

http://blogs.technet.com/b/markrussinovich/archive/2008/11/17/3155406.aspx

Rubbish, the man said he has a 7200rpm HDD, and asked if he will notice speed increse if he disables the pagefile or get a SSD.
Yes, the pagefile can be disabled, and should be on 90% of the computers with 4GB RAM or more. I am not using pagefile in the last 5 years I think, or more. I have sometimes more then 60 webpages open, and lots of other apps, sometimes 3-4 sessions of Visual Studio C# opened, and rarely get a Memory out on just 4GB. Of course I should go to 8GB at least.
So he will notice a speed increase if he disables the pagefile.

If he has a laptop with a fast 7200rpm I suspect it is a modern HDD of at least 500GB. I wouldn't encourage him to switch to a 120GB SSD for some speed increase that is probably inisgnificant if the step above is taken (pagefile disabled).
#29
No, disabling the pagefile and getting a speed increase is rubbish. The benefits to speed are very minimal and not worth the effort. Here, the latest of innumerable articles on the matter that disprove it -

http://www.tweakhound.com/2011/10/10/the-windows-7-pagefile-and-running-without-one/

Getting an SSD will improve day to day operation speeds more than any tweak possibly, especially more than disabling the pagefile.

Back on Topic, the later firmwares for the OCZ Vertex Plus apparently did well for reliability, and it is a good price. I'd be interested, but as has been mentioned before, I think I'd personally want to get a SATAIII drive for the higher IOPS, even if running it on a SATAII port.
#30
CashMoney
No, disabling the pagefile and getting a speed increase is rubbish. The benefits to speed are very minimal and not worth the effort. Here, the latest of innumerable articles on the matter that disprove it -

http://www.tweakhound.com/2011/10/10/the-windows-7-pagefile-and-running-without-one/

Getting an SSD will improve day to day operation speeds more than any tweak possibly, especially more than disabling the pagefile.

Back on Topic, the later firmwares for the OCZ Vertex Plus apparently did well for reliability, and it is a good price. I'd be interested, but as has been mentioned before, I think I'd personally want to get a SATAIII drive for the higher IOPS, even if running it on a SATAII port.


Did you try running without pagefile? It makes a huge difference, especially on the laptops, which have slower HDD's, most of them 5400rpm.
You really made no sense, are you saying that RAM is not faster then a HDD? This is what your article has to say about this (so did you even read it?):
"The pagefile is a sort of backup for data put in physical memory (RAM).
It is put into one file called pagefile.sys.
When you start Windows or launch a program that programs important files are put into RAM because RAM is faster than a hard drive."


And what are the benefits? Quoting again from the link you posted:
"Do you need a page file?
Maybe yes, maybe no. No, it isn’t a cop out answer. The only way to find out is to test it.

Seriously though, paging and the page file do 3 things.
1 – Use disk space.
2 – Cause disk activity (reading/writing, but mostly reading).
3 – Use CPU cycles.
Optimizing and/or eliminating the page file can reduce these.
"


You should also read the comments for that article, lots of users say in their real life day 2 day use they find that disabling the pagefile makes a huge difference. Nobody mentions any benefits of the pagefile. I also think this is interesting:

"Personally, I think swap-space’s days are numbered. RAM is so cheap. 64-bit address space is so huge. Why bother with swap? Soon Mr Russinovich can talk about something much more interesting."

Edited By: MaximusRo on Feb 19, 2012 17:40: adding info
#31
sej7278
plap
Weenie Beenie
Cold, these old OCZ drives are very unreliable and as pointed out, slower than new drives.


In the real world you won't notice a difference (ehhh 0.2 sec faster boot time anyone?) and majority of laptops/desktops haven't got SATA 3 so even the fastest SSD on earth will be just as fast as this one.


speed isn't the problem with OCZ, reliability is, their sandforce drives have a terrible reputation.

Probably why it's called sandforce. It runs as if sand is inside the hard drive. :D
#32
fishmaster
rob200375
I have a win 7 laptop acer 5336, would this be okay to upgrade the hdd.
Also how easy is it to copy the drive data across, as I don't have the win 7 disc,only a backup in D: which is just a partition of main drive

You could download a MSDN iso image of your particular flavour of Windows 7, burn it correctly to DVD and use the C.O.A (windows licence) on the underneath of your laptop to register it, but that means doing a fresh install.

You can clone your drive and have the correct alignment, see the following >

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?60340-cloning-HDD-gt-SSD-*with-alignment*-quickly-with-GParted

Someone else will probably post other simpler methods using free software, I can't remember or think of any free ones that will give you the correct partition alignment when cloning from HDD to SSD but I'm sure I've seen them mentioned on here.
thanks for this will look into getting a new drive then.

rob.

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