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One For All URC 7781 Stealth 12 in 1 remote £17.49 @ Currys

£17.49 @ Currys
Saw this instore yesterday and its on the website too, albeit without a picture and the descriptions a bit vague. Strangely enough if you do a search for one for all on their website a picture of a pr…
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8y, 1m agoFound 8 years, 1 month ago
Saw this instore yesterday and its on the website too, albeit without a picture and the descriptions a bit vague. Strangely enough if you do a search for one for all on their website a picture of a printer appears next to the description! Haven't got an 'all in one' myself but this seems like a good price for a 12-in-1 - I'm sure I will told otherwise if it isn't! :-)

Collect instore to avoid the steep postage costs (£5.95)

URC 7781 Operates up to 12 devices TV, RCV, CAS, AMP, OFA Light Control, DVB-T/Freeview, CD, DVD, SAT/CBL, VCR, PHO

* The perfect universal remote for controlling all your digital equipment, including TV, DVD(-R), Sat/Cable/DVB-T, surround sound AMP and VCR

* Futureproof remote: wireless upgrades of any new device codes

* LCD screen for simple survey of commands and functionality

* Learning function for easy addition of original remote functions

* One For All Light Control to switch on/off or dim your lights and create the perfect home theatre mood.(Requires additional One For All Light Control accessories)
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#1
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#2
Be warned - I once tried to buy a URC from Currys website and there ensued a two month saga of mistakes, broken promises and lies - and the delivery of the WRONG URC not once, not twice, but THREE times. Never shopped their again. Never will shop there again. If you can't get the product you REALLY want in your hand from DSGi then I wouldn't give them any £ - life's just a LOT safer and simpler that way.
#3
mmmmm straight out the 80s
banned#4
WELL HOT. Well done

So much better than them harmony "fashion"(*shudders*) remotes
#5
I, on the other hand, have had no difficulties at all.
#6
Banjo String
WELL HOT. Well done

So much better than them harmony "fashion"(*shudders*) remotes


Try replacing some of the more obscure functions of your original remote to function with one of these (using a shift key) and I think you will find it a different story without a handy sheet near your remote, or yourself within reach of a drawer thats full of your remotes its replacing, without a lcd display with programmed assigned buttons head scratching ensues.

Good for the money, if all you want is basic function replacement, but I fail to see how this at half the price of the base 525 model can be "much better", I am sure you would care to enlighten.

Have yet to see any remote other than the Harmony range, whereby you dont need to keep your original remotes handy at times, and a sheet of your shift assigned keys, apart from the new One For all Xsight, which copy Harmonys range and cost 3 times as much!
#7
cicobuff

Good for the money, if all you want is basic function replacement, but I fail to see how this at half the price of the base 525 model can be "much better", I am sure you would care to enlighten.


Harmony was useless for me, forever having to use "help" as it would get hopelessly confused with which input was selected on my gear, can't honestly see how it would be of any use at all, I'd rather have a megatron. From what I've worked out Harmony is useless with a complex setup involving a Panasonic television. Also the Harmony didn't have a nice button layout and creaked and their support was rubbish. Replaced my harmony with one of these which is in my opinion a much better remote. :thumbsup:

At this price I might well get another as a spare so I can play around with the programming cable I have.
#8
fat-pudding
Harmony was useless for me, forever having to use "help" as it would get hopelessly confused with which input was selected on my gear, can't honestly see how it would be of any use at all, I'd rather have a megatron. From what I've worked out Harmony is useless with a complex setup involving a Panasonic television. Also the Harmony didn't have a nice button layout and creaked and their support was rubbish. Replaced my harmony with one of these which is in my opinion a much better remote. :thumbsup:

At this price I might well get another as a spare so I can play around with the programming cable I have.


We have had plenty of these discussions before in Harmony threads, I think the main "problem" with having to use the help key, is when you use the activity, you have to make sure you program your remote IR timing, once set you dont have that issue...may be too much of a "problem" for some people, however, other remotes are just too rudimentary for me personally.

For Banjo to call them fashionable only is ridiculous, for the money find me a better, more programmable remote that doesn't require a sheet of macro shifting.

This is great for £17.49, however without a LCD display that actually has programmable key assignments, I find anyone would struggle and really this offers no more than the remotes you can get from Lidl or Aldi for £7.99 when on offer.

To say one of these is better is ludicrous!
#9
cicobuff

To say one of these is better is ludicrous!


*sigh* No, it was nothing to do with the timing... the Harmony didn't have discrete input codes for my television which is the cause of the problem and their "excellent" support couldn't help me.

These remotes are much better than anything for £7.99 as they have excellent support and you can reprogram them with a serial cable. The trouble here is that the harmony fans who love spending more time with their remote than using their AV setup are going to step in every time someone has an opinion that isn't one saying that the Harmony is the best thing ever.
#10
I agree with those for the Harmony.
I had a few issues with a Harmony remote, and following another check of what each task does using the software, I found it now not to have any issues whatsoever.
With all this done now, I don't see any other remote in sight - it even "learned" other custom buttons such as On-demand stuff.
Back to the subject in hand - this isn't a bad price for a basic remote, OFA have a wide spread of the multi-remote market.
#11
Oh dear, what have I started :roll:

I saw a Simpsons 6-in-1 remote in the shape of a duff beer can for £2.99 in T J Hughes, maybe I should have posted that one instead? :w00t:
#12
leeedge
I agree with those for the Harmony - it even "learned" other custom buttons such as On-demand stuff.


You can do this on the One-for-all too :thumbsup:
#13
fat-pudding
*sigh* No, it was nothing to do with the timing... the Harmony didn't have discrete input codes for my television which is the cause of the problem and their "excellent" support couldn't help me.

These remotes are much better than anything for £7.99 as they have excellent support and you can reprogram them with a serial cable. The trouble here is that the harmony fans who love spending more time with their remote than using their AV setup are going to step in every time someone has an opinion that isn't one saying that the Harmony is the best thing ever.


I still own a One For All Kameleon, it cannot offer anywhere near the support for my AV equipment without those stupid magic buttons that you need to have a sheet to support you with, without programmable keys I cannot see any remote offering the same usability.

Whether or not you could get to grips with programming "activities"- in "device" only mode, I am sure the Harmony has far more versatility than One For All, which within this price range seriously cannot offer any more than the remotes from Aldi or Lidl.

Why could you not have mapped the keys from your original remote yourself if you were having that much trouble?

Seriously, One For All are overpriced for what they are, this isnt a bad price at £17.49 but its nowhere near a Philips Pronto or any Harmony remote...the fact that One For All are now "copying" Logitech with that new range at £149 and £199 RRP is ridiculous!
#14
I think people are getting somewhat heated over what really is a simple thing :

Yes all even budget remotes now can learn functions of the original, the problem lies in the fact there are only so many keys on a remote control to map functions too.

This is where the problem lies, either you have to have a shift/magic/whatever key assigned, and a memory of an elephant, or you have something like a Harmony.

For SIMPLE operations, these are ok value, but no better than the same jobs from Aldi or Lidl. One For All are vastly overpriced, and the new ones that are attempting to mimic Logitechs Harmony range are vastly overpriced!
#15
Banjo String
WELL HOT. Well done

So much better than them harmony "fashion"(*shudders*) remotes


Everybody is entitled to there opinion and we should all be tolerant, but in your case I feel justified in saying that your opinion is worthless.
#16
Geemac
Everybody is entitled to there opinion and we should all be tolerant, but in your case I feel justified in saying that your opinion is worthless.


Critisism and personal opinion backed up with fact is one thing, Banjo Strings comments on threads are consistently jokes, and just trolling for no real reason.
#17
cicobuff

Why could you not have mapped the keys from your original remote yourself if you were having that much trouble?


Because the layout of the buttons on the Harmony is utter rubbish and the thing had the build quality of something that I would expected to have been purchased in a pound shop. I'd rather have a remote that feels nice, I also have no problems with remembering buttons, obviously Harmony users need lots of "help". :-D

Seriously, the Harmony was the most disappointing gadget that I have ever purchased the reason I got rid was I wanted my £40 back and I then purchased one of these for £20.... If you as a Harmony user can't see why I'd want to save £20 for the sake of having a device that works better for me then there is no point continuing giving my opinion.
#18
fat-pudding
Because the layout of the buttons on the Harmony is utter rubbish and the thing had the build quality of something that I would expected to have been purchased in a pound shop. I'd rather have a remote that feels nice, I also have no problems with remembering buttons, obviously Harmony users need lots of "help". :-D

Seriously, the Harmony was the most disappointing gadget that I have ever purchased the reason I got rid was I wanted my £40 back and I then purchased one of these for £20.... If you as a Harmony user can't see why I'd want to save £20 for the sake of having a device that works better for me then there is no point continuing giving my opinion.


And I have the exact opposite opinion, my kameleon remote could only replace certain functions of my original equipment (and thats a far higher model in the range than this one!) without having to have a memory of an elephant shift functioning keys...and to criticise the whole harmony range on build quality I find odd, without stating even what model you had.

As for the button layout? Rubbish in what way? Illogical? I dont understand without sufficient backup...The only problem I have with my 555 is I am not too impressed with the volume and channel buttons , preferring the rubberised buttons, layout however I dont struggle at all with.

Glad it works for you, you obviously dont have a dvd recorder, an av amp, hdmi switch box, SACD/DVD-A, HD-DVD, XBOX 360, Satellite, V+, CD Player, DVD Player, Soundbridge to deal with.

For a TV, VCR, and satellite/SKY/Virgin box...these things are fine for rudimentary control, for anyone else, be warned you will need shift button programming and without a display will need a memory of an elephant...
#19
cicobuff
And I have the exact opposite opinion, my kameleon remote could only replace certain functions of my original equipment

Glad it works for you, you obviously dont have a dvd recorder, an av amp, hdmi switch box, SACD/DVD-A, HD-DVD, XBOX 360, Satellite, V+, CD Player, DVD Player, Soundbridge to deal with.


If you couldn't get the kameleon working with all your gear you obviously couldn't be bothered to put any time or effort in, exactly what you criticised me for with the Harmony :whistling:

I had a Harmony 525 poor build quality, the damn thing creaked, if it had have worked nicely then I'd have considered another model, but £40 for somthing like that was for my setup a total joke.

Oh, and currently sitting in the living room I have, TV, AV amp, pvr, av switch box, xbox running xbmc, xbox 360, ps2 and an hd-dvd player, get this, it all works *perfectly* with my one for all. Sorry that you can't cope with this, but it is true.

I'd say if you have a Harmony and like it, then great. It didn't work for me and I'm much happier with my one for all as are a few of my friends who also had bad experiences with Logitech gear.
#20
fat-pudding
If you couldn't get the kameleon working with all your gear you obviously couldn't be bothered to put any time or effort in, exactly what you criticised me for with the Harmony :whistling:

I had a Harmony 525 poor build quality, the damn thing creaked, if it had have worked nicely then I'd have considered another model, but £40 for somthing like that was for my setup a total joke.

Oh, and currently sitting in the living room I have, TV, AV amp, pvr, av switch box, xbox running xbmc, xbox 360, ps2 and an hd-dvd player, get this, it all works *perfectly* with my one for all. Sorry that you can't cope with this, but it is true.

I'd say if you have a Harmony and like it, then great. It didn't work for me and I'm much happier with my one for all as are a few of my friends who also had bad experiences with Logitech gear.


Tell you what, if you still have your 525, I will gladly swap it for my kameleon. In AV mode it was ridiculous, not because I had trouble programming it, just didnt want to have lots of illogical magic button keys programmed in order to even get to function my amp.

Guess that One For All dont need their different ranges of remotes considering the base model you have does it all huh!
#21
cicobuff
Tell you what, if you still have your 525, I will gladly swap it for my kameleon. In AV mode it was ridiculous, not because I had trouble programming it, just didnt want to have lots of illogical magic button keys programmed in order to even get to function my amp.


Err, no, of course I don't have it. It was sent back for a *refund* so I could get my £40 back and I could buy the one for all for £20.....
#22
fat-pudding
Err, no, of course I don't have it. It was sent back for a *refund* so I could get my £40 back and I could buy the one for all for £20.....


Thats a shame, fancy buying a Kameleon, perhaps you can reprogram its display and functionality somehow?

Can I ask out of interest how you remember programming all your activities on your URC 7781 out of curiosity, say you wanted to switch the tv on, start up your 360, switch your amp on, set the input of your amp to 5/6.1 what do you press?
1 Like #23
I use the remote provided with my television.
I'm stuck in the past man.
#24
Ignorant Pom
I use the remote provided with my television.

Thanks for your enlightening contribution into a universal remote thread on the functionality of the One For All URC 7771.
#25
cicobuff

Can I ask out of interest how you remember programming all your activities on your URC 7781 out of curiosity, say you wanted to switch the tv on, start up your 360, switch your amp on, set the input of your amp to 5/6.1 what do you press?


Power gear on at wall, turn tv power on with power button and amp on with power button, turn 360 on with power button, power on a/v switch and push right 2 times on the remote and then 3, push right on remote keypad hit the number 3 to get the a/v amp into the right setting.

If the stuff is already turned on at the wall then, push power button on remote for tv, push right, push power button and 3, push right and 3 and then right and 3.

Compared to Harmony which would then try to change the input on the tele and the av switch and get it hopelessly wrong and then cause lots of button mashing with the "help" mode while having to squint at small screen to try and get the gear working. If the macro mode would have worked then fine, but for me it didn't so it would end up being more effort with a Harmony as a one for all chasing getting all the devices into the right state.
#26
cicobuff
Thanks for your enlightening contribution into a universal remote thread on the functionality of the One For All URC 7771.


So cool...
#27
fat-pudding
Power gear on at wall, turn tv power on with power button and amp on with power button, turn 360 on with power button, power on a/v switch and push right 2 times on the remote and then 3, push right on remote keypad hit the number 3 to get the a/v amp into the right setting.

If the stuff is already turned on at the wall then, push power button on remote for tv, push right, push power button and 3, push right and 3 and then right and 3.

Compared to Harmony which would then try to change the input on the tele and the av switch and get it hopelessly wrong and then cause lots of button mashing with the "help" mode while having to squint at small screen to try and get the gear working. If the macro mode would have worked then fine, but for me it didn't so it would end up being more effort with a Harmony as a one for all chasing getting all the devices into the right state.



Interesting, I prefer to press the activity I have named "Play Xbox 360", and in the RARE instance it doesnt use the handy help function to cycle my equipment.

Also useful for my wife who can use the remote effortlessly.

Sorry to hear you had a woeful time of the Harmony range, glad I dont have to put up with the woeful operation to get my equipment working with a One For All any longer.

"If the stuff is already turned on at the wall then, push power button on remote for tv, push right, push power button and 3, push right and 3 and then right and 3. "

This is exactly my argument why any cheap Universal remote is not as functional, you may have learned this in your head personally, but seriously if I was to expect anyone including my wife to utilise the remote control, boy would they struggle!

Are you interested in buying a kameleon by the way?
#28
Ignorant Pom
So cool...


Your Big Lebowski avatar is very cool, love that film, but seriously vote the deal hot or cold, comment on Universal remote controls in here.
#29
cicobuff
Your Big Lebowski avatar is very cool, love that film, but seriously vote the deal hot or cold, comment on Universal remote controls in here.


Yes, how dare you come in here and disturb these two! Ignorant Pom indeed! :-D
#30
professor yaffle
Yes, how dare you come in here and disturb these two! Ignorant Pom indeed! :-D

How dare you post a deal on a universal remote and cause the usual debate on One For All vs Harmony functionality :thumbsup:
1 Like #31
cicobuff
Interesting, I prefer to press the activity I have named "Play Xbox 360", and in the RARE instance it doesnt use the handy help function to cycle my equipment.

Also useful for my wife who can use the remote effortlessly.

Are you interested in buying a kameleon by the way?


Yes, and with my setup "play xbox 360" would usually involve more cycling to get it to work than just button mashing the one for all unless you got very lucky. Anyhow, my wife uses our remote fine, she didn't like the harmony either. Probably not interested in a kameleon as I like the 7781 so would rather have another to try out advanced programming with, which model kameleon is it?
#32
cicobuff
Can I ask out of interest how you remember programming all your activities on your URC 7781 out of curiosity, say you wanted to switch the tv on, start up your 360, switch your amp on, set the input of your amp to 5/6.1 what do you press?


Without taking sides, this seems pretty straight forward from the 7781 user manual:

Add Key Macro
You can program your URC-7781 to issue a sequence of commands at the press of one
button. For example, you may want to switch OFF your TV, VCR and Satellite by only
pressing one key. Any sequence of commands you regularly use can be reduced to one
key stroke for your convenience. A key macro can contain up to 15 keystrokes in the
sequence.


Maybe assign it to the 'A' button? :?
#33
fat-pudding;4196704
Power gear on at wall, turn tv power on with power button and amp on with power button, turn 360 on with power button, power on a/v switch and push right 2 times on the remote and then 3, push right on remote keypad hit the number 3 to get the a/v amp into the right setting.

If the stuff is already turned on at the wall then, push power button on remote for tv, push right, push power button and 3, push right and 3 and then right and 3.

Compared to Harmony which would then try to change the input on the tele and the av switch and get it hopelessly wrong and then cause lots of button mashing with the "help" mode while having to squint at small screen to try and get the gear working. If the macro mode would have worked then fine, but for me it didn't so it would end up being more effort with a Harmony as a one for all chasing getting all the devices into the right state.


Dead right... been there, read the book, spent the time on the phone burned the midnight oil, and can only agree with every point you have made. If people haven't got the message by now, they never will.

Just one request mate... will you try not to quote too much of the replies when you are arguing with cicobuff... I have him on ignore, and the thread is ticking over just fine that way, but with too much quoting, I am seeing far too much of the very stuff I have already seen repeatedly in the past, and don't want to see now :whistling:

I do wish the ignore function would work just a little bit better and dump all quotes too, it isn't normally such a problem.
#34
fat-pudding
Yes, and with my setup "play xbox 360" would usually involve more cycling to get it to work than just button mashing the one for all unless you got very lucky. Anyhow, my wife uses our remote fine, she didn't like the harmony either. Probably not interested in a kameleon as I like the 7781 so would rather have another to try out advanced programming with, which model kameleon is it?


The original 1st Generation one
#35
cicobuff
How dare you post a deal on a universal remote and cause the usual debate on One For All vs Harmony functionality :thumbsup:


Yes of course, I should have known better. I will program a button on my remote and call it 'One for all/Harmony usual debate' to remind me to press it next time to switch off my modem, wireless router and PC all at the same time and stop me posting anything to do with remotes. If only I could remember how to program it :thinking:
#36
professor yaffle
Without taking sides, this seems pretty straight forward from the 7781 user manual:

Add Key Macro
You can program your URC-7781 to issue a sequence of commands at the press of one
button. For example, you may want to switch OFF your TV, VCR and Satellite by only
pressing one key. Any sequence of commands you regularly use can be reduced to one
key stroke for your convenience. A key macro can contain up to 15 keystrokes in the
sequence.


Maybe assign it to the 'A' button? :?


Ok, thats for activity wizard macros, say then within any given device you want a function such as top menu for a dvd player instead of just menu, you would need to shift function assign, then stuff such as with my dvd recorder, mapping a record mode key, erase button, create chapter button, direct navigator button...oh dear...i suddenly need a memory of an elephhant, this is the exact point I am trying to get at.

Not knocking any cheap Universal remote for all but basic functions, but just hate it when people rubbish off the Harmony remotes range which are clearly far more functional without having a sheet handy.

Any universal remote can be programmed to perform any key function within reason, but without a display exactly telling you what that button function is, you are going to struggle...plain and simple....to deny this is ridiculous!

The DVD recorder problem is the exact reason I fell out of any sort of use with my kameleon remote, too many buttons to shift program and remember!
#37
cicobuff
Not knocking any cheap Universal remote for all but basic functions, but just hate it when people rubbish off the Harmony remotes range which are clearly far more functional without having a sheet handy.


I bet you can't dim your lights with it though :w00t:
#38
professor yaffle
I bet you can't dim your lights with it though :w00t:


Actually could if I programmed the bedroom fan which is light and fan remote operational :thumbsup:

Seriously though, I am not the one in here with any beef, others slating the Harmony range are by stating that the One For All remotes are better, which is totally illogical, even if you didnt use Activity macros, and used it for replacement devices only, they are simply better programmed devices with having visual self named buttons assignable for those tricky keys that would otherwise have to be shift assigned.

For £17.49 its a good deal against RRP, but thats where it ends, to state its better than any Harmony, well....

My Harmony 555 is the first remote I can safely say has resigned the other remotes I own permanently into a basket in the sideboard...and is a What Hi Fi Winner 2 years running over all other universal remotes...
#39
nihcaj
Dead right... been there, read the book, spent the time on the phone burned the midnight oil, and can only agree with every point you have made. If people haven't got the message by now, they never will.

Just one request mate... will you try not to quote too much of the replies when you are arguing with cicobuff... I have him on ignore, and the thread is ticking over just fine that way, but with too much quoting, I am seeing far too much of the very stuff I have already seen repeatedly in the past, and don't want to see now :whistling:

I do wish the ignore function would work just a little bit better and dump all quotes too, it isn't normally such a problem.


I guess you put everyone else on ignore from the Harmony threads too then that just cannot understand your slating illogical arguments, just because you couldnt come to terms with getting to grips with it! You had quite a lot of criticisms not just from me! Never mind you wont read this unless someone cares to quote it :thumbsup:
#40
professor yaffle
I bet you can't dim your lights with it though :w00t:


I can:-D:-D:-D

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