Orca/Boyu MT50 Nano 80-litre Aquarium including filter system, water pump and light [£89.95 @ Charterhouse Aquatics] - HotUKDeals
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I posted this around 2 months ago, so I thought I'd repost it now that I've had it for a while and will be able to answer any questions, etc.

Described by it's maker as; Novel, Vogue and Larruping aspect and Design it has a creative slide-type and turn-over type structure, the aquarium lid can be slid back and forth or turned over around the rear hinge. Further more, the aquarium lid can be slid & turned over to hang vertically on the rear wall outside the aquarium. This brand new aquarium is completely self contained.

This newest edition to the Nano Cubes comes complete with filter system, Water Pump and built in bio chemical filtration system & Lighting.

Tank Spec
Size:455LX490WX495H(mm)
L:80L

Power Saving Light
Volt:220/110V
Freq:50/60Hz
Power:24W

Submersible Pump
Volt:220/110V
Freq:50/60Hz
Power:25W
Flow:1100L/h
Lift:1.3m
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#1
always liked the idea of fish, but just totally clueless though! And I can kill a cactus so I worry about not being able to do it.

This looks like a good price indeed though! The added pics + info of yours is great. thanks.
#2
Voted Hot..:thumbsup:
#3
WeeWifie
always liked the idea of fish, but just totally clueless though! And I can kill a cactus so I worry about not being able to do it.


Fish are lovely but even the most basic set-up takes quite a lot of care and effort. Great if you like that sort of thing but don't underestimate the hassle it can be.
#4
Also Charterhouse Aquatics gave me some of the worst service I have ever had. No answer of the phone for a week, no reply to e-mails, waiting in 6 days for a delivery, missing items, over 4 weeks until the order was complete. After that, not even an apology or offer of any compensation. Total muppets.
#5
what kind of stuff would you need to buy for this to be a fully working thing like you have?
How much work would you need to do each week to keep the thing working/not dying?
1 Like #6
You would need to replace 15 to 20% of the water every week with chlorine free tap water (a few drops of some chemicals). Probabaly need to give the gravel a good vacuum and the glass a good clean once every month to 45 days or so. Probably give the filter and medium a clean in the same aquarium water evry 1 to 2 month too.
You will need to cycle the tank for around 6 to 7 week before the water will be 'safe' to accomodate the fish. Usually you will set-up the tank for a week with the filer running for week without fish but still adding the food once a day. This will start the biological cycle to create the bacteria which will change the toxins in the water. After a week you would proobably add a couple of hardy fish (neons?) to keep the biological process going. Probably add another fish after another week and a half and so on and so on. The tank should be fully cycled after 7 week. Lots of detailed info on the web though.

A tropical tank is not a lot of work but it certainly does take some strict maintenance.
#7
mamboboy
Just a heater around the 70-100w mark, you can pick one up from eBay for £8-10 I think. What I also like about the tank is you can house the heater in with the filtration housing so it'd hidden from view :)
If you want real plants then you'd preferably need a Co2 kit and plant food, as the plants will barely grow without them...you can easily make a DIY kit by following the many guides online:
http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_co2.php
But then take in mind you'd also need an oxygen pump as the plants will give out Co2 and take in the oxygen at night which would/could suffocate the fish.
Or you could just save money and go down the artificial plant route...also with that choice, you wouldn't need to buy an oxygen pump, as the movement on the waters surface oxygenates the water enough for the fish to be just fine.

Obviously you'd also need the bare essentials like gravel/sand and ornaments. :thumbsup:

As for maintenance, I personally have a syphon/vacuum (£3-4 on ebay) which I use to take 2x buckets of water our every two weeks. But obviously the frequency you change the water depends on the fish... :)
I also haven't treated the water I put back in for years, so I don't agree with the chlorine treatment (replaceing one chemical with another just sounds silly to me). I guess it depends on what area you're from, but the tap water here is perfectly fine and it's never caused stress or disease for my fish, so the only supplement I put in my tank is the fortnightly plant food :)

Its not necassrily the fish that are stressed by the chlorine, its the bacteria in your biological filteration that can be killed by high enough concentrations. Thata why you never wash your medium/filter in tap water etc.

That being said, leaving the tap water to stand for an hour or too will expel the chlorine anyway.
#8
DrJogalog
Its not necassrily the fish that are stressed by the chlorine, its the bacteria in your biological filteration that can be killed by high enough concentrations. Thata why you never wash your medium/filter in tap water etc.

That being said, leaving the tap water to stand for an hour or too will expel the chlorine anyway.


Sorry, but it's a bit more complicated than you are suggesting. That said there is a whole industry of misinformation to sell you stuff that won't really help.

Edit: I haven't had fish for years and I only ever had a very robust cold-water set-up but it is a very complex business and hence there is a whole world of ******** out there to take your money.
#9
A bucket of water left overnight is the easy way to get rid of chlorine and other chemicals in your water, then just add 1 capful of Nutrafin Aqua+ water conditioner and bobs your uncle..nice clean water no nasty chemicals and the water won't give the fish a nasty shock because its to cold straight from the tap, It'll be room temperature already, the nutrafin will coat the fishes outer scales in a nice protective mucus and the bacteria in the filter will be having a party by the end of the evening...Job done!!

Its easy when you know how..:-D
#10
mamboboy
That's Andy :-D He has a sheltered life because he's was dominant in every tank he's been in. Currently lives with two tiny panda catfish.
The tank had a few adjustments since the original - I took the ornament out as it has quite sharp edges, also moved the java moss wall on the side. Plants are growing like crazy and I have to keep trimming 'em down!


Can we eat him pleaaase
#11
crazylegs
A bucket of water left overnight is the easy way to get rid of chlorine and other chemicals in your water, then just add 1 capful of Nutrafin Aqua+ water conditioner and bobs your uncle..nice clean water no nasty chemicals and the water won't give the fish a nasty shock because its to cold straight from the tap, It'll be room temperature already, the nutrafin will coat the fishes outer scales in a nice protective mucus and the bacteria in the filter will be having a party by the end of the evening...Job done!!

Its easy when you know how..:-D

Yeah that's what I use on my 84litre tank, just about a capful in 8litres of tap water then leave overnight.
I have live plants, but I also have snails that enjoy eating them ;-)
I'm not after the pretty tank look, so some snails and algae are part of my tank, however of late string algae has gotten a bit out of hand.
Its so easy to maintain a tank though. Once your all set up, the "hardest" part is the partial water change once a week or 2 weeks. Which is easily done with a gravel filter tube, and this also reduces the waste in the tank.

For anyone in Glasgow there's a really good fish shop called The Aquarium just up from A1 Comics, very friendly staff, a great variety of fish and some tanks available to buy (thats where I got my 84 lr).
#12
cybergibbons
Also Charterhouse Aquatics gave me some of the worst service I have ever had. No answer of the phone for a week, no reply to e-mails, waiting in 6 days for a delivery, missing items, over 4 weeks until the order was complete. After that, not even an apology or offer of any compensation. Total muppets.


Agree with this, this company are quick enough to take your money, but if you have any problems or questions you can forget it, they just dont want to know.

Think of overlockers but instead of pc hardware, fish! lol
#13
This is a great deal - been looking for somewhere to locate my spare PC screen which is running a lifelike fish screensaver ...I'll drop it into this tank, which will give it the finishing touch - won't have to clean it either.
#14
I haven't had fish for years and I only ever had a very robust cold-water set-up but it is a very complex business and hence there is a whole world of ******** out there to take your money.


It doesn't have to be complicated.

I top up the tank with a gallon or so of water straight from the tap every few months. I clean out the external filter once or twice a year and wipe the glass inside the tank with a scouring pad when it loses it's clarity.

I feed the fish once a day and that is it. I have had some fish in there for more than eight years and lose very few fish, so the environment must be okay.
#15
ok then, im a noob at this but my fiancee would like some fish and this tank looks nice!

Im after a cold water set up and want some snails to help with the tank cleaning and some real plants to make it look pretty!

I know this tank comes with a heater, can this be turned off? or is it cheaper for me to buy another tank. just like this with the included filteration system

to maintain the tank i will need

nutrafin
gravel sucker cleaning thing
change 20% of the water every 1-2 weeks
clean the tank every 30-45 days

Am i right here, is this it to have a nice environment for your fish?

OR am so obviously a noob to this that im wasting your time? :whistling:
#16
imdave
Yeah that's what I use on my 84litre tank, just about a capful in 8litres of tap water then leave overnight.
I have live plants, but I also have snails that enjoy eating them ;-)
I'm not after the pretty tank look, so some snails and algae are part of my tank, however of late string algae has gotten a bit out of hand.
Its so easy to maintain a tank though. Once your all set up, the "hardest" part is the partial water change once a week or 2 weeks. Which is easily done with a gravel filter tube, and this also reduces the waste in the tank.

For anyone in Glasgow there's a really good fish shop called The Aquarium just up from A1 Comics, very friendly staff, a great variety of fish and some tanks available to buy (thats where I got my 84 lr).


I used Nutrafin products and they were good.

I also had snails but they started geing out of hand and upsetting the balance of the tank, I always seemed to be culling them. As for filamentous algae, I had none for years and then when it appeared it became an absolute PITA.

An unfortunate accident, don't ask, led to the sudden need to re-home the fish and I haven't bothered to get another tank. When I've got done some of the huge list of things that need doing around the house I will get another, the kids will love it.
#17
beware of boyu their lighting units are some of the worts around most arent sealed tight so the water can reach the electrical connections and short them out
i know this from experience
#18
Google aquascaping , people out there have made some really nice set ups, even for smaller tanks.
Usually you would need to get your tank set up (plants etc) before you get the fish. Alot of people make the mistake of getting everything in one go.
#19
AzeemB
Alot of people make the mistake of getting everything in one go.


Good advice there. Take your time :)
1 Like #20
ghockley1981

to maintain the tank i will need

nutrafin
gravel sucker cleaning thing
change 20% of the water every 1-2 weeks
clean the tank every 30-45 days

Am i right here, is this it to have a nice environment for your fish?

OR am so obviously a noob to this that im wasting your time? :whistling:


Add to that list;

1. Nitrate/Nitrite/Ammonia test strips (get these from eBay nice and cheap!)
2. A sponge or gentle scourer to clean the class
3. Dechlorinator (any will do, but I use either Tetra AquaSafe or Nutrafin AquaPlus (whichever is cheaper at the time).

It's not expensive or time consuming when you get into the swing of things. The water change frequency will depend on how 'stocked' or 'loaded' your tank is. Less fish = less water changes = happier fish. It might be worth taking a trip to your local fish shop to have a look at the various fish and see what mixes of fish you would like in your tank.
#21
mamboboy
......

It's also available at Warehouse Direct for a few pennies less, but they also work the same way:
http://www.warehouse-aquatics.co.uk/complete-aquariums/boyu-aquarium-range/boyu-mt50-equipment-spares-c-1_53_468.html



There model and pictures are the same, but the one in Warehouse Aquatics is a 30 litres tank if you go with Silver??
1 Like #22
liddlefeesh
Add to that list;

1. Nitrate/Nitrite/Ammonia test strips (get these from eBay nice and cheap!)
2. A sponge or gentle scourer to clean the class
3. Dechlorinator (any will do, but I use either Tetra AquaSafe or Nutrafin AquaPlus (whichever is cheaper at the time).

It's not expensive or time consuming when you get into the swing of things. The water change frequency will depend on how 'stocked' or 'loaded' your tank is. Less fish = less water changes = happier fish. It might be worth taking a trip to your local fish shop to have a look at the various fish and see what mixes of fish you would like in your tank.


On point ( 1 ) I would strongly recommend getting liquid tests rather than the test strips, as the strips tend to be a bit 'hit-n-miss', and the liquid tests work out much more cost effective in the long run anyway :) Personally I use the API Master Liquid Test Kit, which comes with several different types of tests, (the ones listed above as well as PH tests), but you can just as easily by the indidual tests if thats what you want to do.
1 Like #23
i have found that the more you mess with water etc the more problems you cause
buy the tank stick the water in and leave for about a week before buying fish use real plants and add fish gradually and do a 25% water change every week or so
i have done this and have no problems
i did all the chemical treatments when i first started and i had no end of problems fish are more resiliant than people think.
#24
This for marine or tropical fish? or both? (not at the same time i know lol)
#25
VDisillusioned
Sorry, but it's a bit more complicated than you are suggesting. That said there is a whole industry of misinformation to sell you stuff that won't really help.

Edit: I haven't had fish for years and I only ever had a very robust cold-water set-up but it is a very complex business and hence there is a whole world of ******** out there to take your money.


crazylegs
A bucket of water left overnight is the easy way to get rid of chlorine and other chemicals in your water, then just add 1 capful of Nutrafin Aqua+ water conditioner and bobs your uncle..nice clean water no nasty chemicals and the water won't give the fish a nasty shock because its to cold straight from the tap, It'll be room temperature already, the nutrafin will coat the fishes outer scales in a nice protective mucus and the bacteria in the filter will be having a party by the end of the evening...Job done!!

Its easy when you know how..:-D


Not all information is mis-information. Some is quite clear. Chlorine kills bacteria. Simple.

Leaving a bucket of water out over night is not very practical for larger tanks or when you have kids. I change out 40 litres in my 180 litre tank every week so this would just not be possible. 1ml of King British Safe Guard to remove the chlorine and 1ml of King British Safe Water for conditioning in every 10 litre bucket of tap water does the trick. Job done.
#26
stepp
Agree with this, this company are quick enough to take your money, but if you have any problems or questions you can forget it, they just dont want to know.

Think of overlockers but instead of pc hardware, fish! lol


The way I see it - most companies get 90%+ of their orders spot on. It's not hard delivering the right product at the right time.

The other 10% of orders have some kind of problem.

It's how you deal with that 10% that matters. I've recently had an experience with a furniture company, and although it took a while to sort out, they heavily discounted the order to compensate, waived the delivery charges, and sent a replacement. I don't think they made any money on the order. As a result, I can only assume they want my repeat business.

Charterhouse Aquatics clearly don't want repeat business. There are quite a lot of reviews of them that aren't good about.
#27
Just noticed my post on fishforums.net, entitled "Charterhouse Aquatics Dodgy?" is at number 4 on google. It really does pay to reply to e-mails.
#28
[QUOTE=mamboboy]It doesn't come with a heater mate :) I'd personally go with a coldwater catfish/loach over snails (unless you can find a single large one). Most snails breed like wildfire and will quickly become a nuisance, as they could probably add to the algae as opposed to clean it.

thanks for the info coldwater catfish and loach it shall be then, have some more rep.

last time i went to you link it took me to a different tank so i think they're website mucked me about, good it doesn't have a heater then as my friend have some cold water fish that had loads of babies and they don't have room for them all.

*goes of to look at catfish and loach

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