Packard Bell EasyNote TJ66-DT-022UK 15.6-inch Notebook (Intel Core 2 Duo Processor, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB Hard Drive, Nvidia Graphics, Vista Premium) £369.99 @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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decent spec:

Colour: Black cover, white interior
Screen: 15.6 inch WXGA LED GLARE 1366 x 768
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 (2.1 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 2MB Cache)
Memory: 4GB DDR2
HDD: 320GB SATA
Operating system: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
Optical drive: DVD SuperMulti
Dimensions: 372 x 250 x 37.5 mm
Weight: 2.7 Kg
Graphics: Nvidia Geforce G105M with 512MB dedicated graphic memory
Audio: Stereo out, microphone in, Dolby Headphones and Sound Room Technology
Connectivity: VGA webcam, wireless b/g/n, GigaLan Ethernet, VGA D-sub, HDMI, 4x USB 2.0, 5 in 1 card reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS-Pro/xD)
Battery: 6 Cells Li-Ion 4400mAh, up to 3h 30m battery life
User interface: Full keyboard with numeric keypad, capacitive buttons (Power, wireless, Touchpad deactivation, MyBackup, PowerSave)
LED indicators: AC power, battery, num lock, cap lock, Wifi, webcam activation, Touchpad deactivation, MyBackup
Included Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements Full Version, Adobe Premiere Elements Trial Version, Norton Internet Security 2009 (90 days trial), Google Desktop, Nero 8 Essentials, Works 9 SE + Office Home & Student (60 days trial), Adobe Reader 9.0, Adobe Flash 10.0, PB MyBackup, PB Updator, Setup my PC, Recovery management, PB InfoCentre
Warranty: 1 Year
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#1
Colour: Black cover, white interior
Screen: 15.6 inch WXGA LED GLARE 1366 x 768
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 (2.1 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 2MB Cache)
Memory: 4GB DDR2
HDD: 320GB SATA
Operating system: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
Optical drive: DVD SuperMulti
Dimensions: 372 x 250 x 37.5 mm
Weight: 2.7 Kg
Graphics: Nvidia Geforce G105M with 512MB dedicated graphic memory
Audio: Stereo out, microphone in, Dolby Headphones and Sound Room Technology
Connectivity: VGA webcam, wireless b/g/n, GigaLan Ethernet, VGA D-sub, HDMI, 4x USB 2.0, 5 in 1 card reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS-Pro/xD)
Battery: 6 Cells Li-Ion 4400mAh, up to 3h 30m battery life
User interface: Full keyboard with numeric keypad, capacitive buttons (Power, wireless, Touchpad deactivation, MyBackup, PowerSave)
LED indicators: AC power, battery, num lock, cap lock, Wifi, webcam activation, Touchpad deactivation, MyBackup
Included Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements Full Version, Adobe Premiere Elements Trial Version, Norton Internet Security 2009 (90 days trial), Google Desktop, Nero 8 Essentials, Works 9 SE + Office Home & Student (60 days trial), Adobe Reader 9.0, Adobe Flash 10.0, PB MyBackup, PB Updator, Setup my PC, Recovery management, PB InfoCentre
Warranty: 1 Year
#2
good price, but a little too heavy
#3
Adobe Photoshop Elements Full Version - Nice bonus. :thumbsup:
#4
Agharta
Adobe Photoshop Elements Full Version - Nice bonus. :thumbsup:


Didnt notice that but yeah it is!
#5
awoodhall2003
Didnt notice that but yeah it is!

Packard Bell often bundle Photoshop Elements.
#6
I wanted to compare the £370ish Acer Timeline CPU to the £370ish Packard Bell CPU recently posted here on HUKD and found:

Acer Timeline: Intel ULV Solo U3500

Packard Bell: Intel Core 2 Duo T6500

Acer Timeline Intel Solo U3500 = 494

Packard Bell Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 = 1432

Depending upon other factors and my guesstimate from a decade+ of PC usage, I'd say the PB should be two to three times faster for alot of functions, mostly due to CPU/RAM/GFX

The PB's has dedicated graphics on board and 4GB ram vs. 3GB of the Acer, also larger screen but same resolution and is nearly 50% heavier with inferior battery life.

Although similar price, Acer seems to be a lighter less work heavy based device where as the PB I think could actually be a desktop replacement but sacrifices weight/power efficiency for this price.
#7
schizoboy
I wanted to compare the £370ish Acer Timeline CPU to the £370ish Packard Bell CPU recently posted here on HUKD and found:

Acer Timeline: Intel ULV Solo U3500

Packard Bell: Intel Core 2 Duo T6500

Acer Timeline Intel Solo U3500 = 494

Packard Bell Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 = 1432

Depending upon other factors and my guesstimate from a decade+ of PC usage, I'd say the PB should be two to three times faster for alot of functions, mostly due to CPU/RAM/GFX

The PB's has dedicated graphics on board and 4GB ram vs. 3GB of the Acer, also larger screen but same resolution and is nearly 50% heavier with inferior battery life.

Although similar price, Acer seems to be a lighter less work heavy based device where as the PB I think could actually be a desktop replacement but sacrifices weight/power efficiency for this price.

Thanks for that, a nice review put in plain English. Have been looking for a decent replacement for a Dell laptop which is getting very tired! Seems almost as good, if not better, than a lot of desktop PC's out there, with the added bonus of portability, (cant be 'that' heavy!).
Nice find OP.:thumbsup:
#8
moorjock;8170546
Thanks for that, a nice review put in plain English. Have been looking for a decent replacement for a Dell laptop which is getting very tired! Seems almost as good, if not better, than a lot of desktop PC's out there, with the added bonus of portability, (cant be 'that' heavy!).
Nice find OP.:thumbsup:


I should of mentioned those figures were from [url]www.cpubenchmark.net[/url]

I had a 17inch Dell XPS Laptop for a while, 11lbs+, so I have been looking at affordable light laptops for a while. now, the PB would of gotten my money if not for the screen resolution so I'm going to wait more.
#9
schizoboy
I should of mentioned those figures were from [url]www.cpubenchmark.net[/url]

I had a 17inch Dell XPS Laptop for a while, 11lbs+, so I have been looking at affordable light laptops for a while. now, the PB would of gotten my money if not for the screen resolution so I'm going to wait more.

With my eyesight the screens not that important to me! Using a Tosh' laptop as a desktop here, and i must admit the HDMI connection does make for better viewing at home.
#10
moorjock;8170563
With my eyesight the screens not that important to me! Using a Tosh' laptop as a desktop here, and i must admit the HDMI connection does make for better viewing at home.


Thankfully both this PB and the Acer have HDMI, but this PB has dedicated graphics so should be able to do full size HiDef 1080p (£50 bluray roms for laptops this time next year I hope).
Add:
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_7&products_id=105190

And you can play anything (might need driver tweaking as HDMI is not simple to setup) on your HDTV even using your big telly as a clone/extension of your laptop.
#11
Made by Acer.

Very nice deal if you're not bothered about getting Windows 7 pre-installed.
#12
heat added for a good deal, and also for the op's avatar :thumbsup:
#13
To put things into perspective, I bought a Inspiron 1545 yesterday for £318 (delivered). Specs are:

Inspiron 1545 : Intel Core 2 Duo T6600(2.2GHz,800MHz,2MB)
Battery 48WHR 6Cell
Display 15.6in Widescreen WXGA with TrueLife WLED
LCD Back Cover Black Matte Finish
Camera Not Included
2GB - 1X2GB DIMM
320GB HD 5400
Dell Wireless 1397 (802.11 b g)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD
DVD+/- RW
Operating System English Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64 BIT)
Certified Refurbished


(less ram & crappier GPU but better CPU - but also better build qualiy in my experience; £250 dell still works fine whereas £450 PB has broken down!)
#14
To put things into perspective, I bought a Inspiron 1545 yesterday for £318 (delivered). Specs are:


Inspiron 1545 : Intel Core 2 Duo T6600(2.2GHz,800MHz,2MB)
Battery 48WHR 6Cell
Display 15.6in Widescreen WXGA with TrueLife WLED
LCD Back Cover Black Matte Finish
Camera Not Included
2GB - 1X2GB DIMM
320GB HD 5400
Dell Wireless 1397 (802.11 b g)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD
DVD+/- RW
Operating System English Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64 BIT)
Certified Refurbished



(less ram & crappier GPU but better CPU - but also better build qualiy in my experience; £250 dell still works fine whereas £450 PB has broken down!)


Yeah thats a nice CPU, about 10% better than the one on this PB, the 50% less RAM and no dedicated graphics is what massively lets it down compare to this PB though.
#15
rash;8170911
To put things into perspective, I bought a Inspiron 1545 yesterday for £318 (delivered). Specs are:



(less ram & crappier GPU but better CPU - but also better build qualiy in my experience; £250 dell still works fine whereas £450 PB has broken down!)


Yeah thats a nice CPU, about 10% better than the one on this PB, the 50% less RAM and no dedicated graphics is what massively lets it down compare to this PB though.

Yeah thats a nice CPU, about 10% better than the one on this PB, the 50% less RAM and no dedicated graphics is what massively lets it down compare to this PB though.
#16
schizoboy
Yeah thats a nice CPU, about 10% better than the one on this PB, the 50% less RAM and no dedicated graphics is what massively lets it down compare to this PB though.

Yeah thats a nice CPU, about 10% better than the one on this PB, the 50% less RAM and no dedicated graphics is what massively lets it down compare to this PB though.


and its refurbished, I also believe the PB is the better option - the CPU is usually not what lets you down in a PC but the lack of memory

Edit: Heat added for this deal by the way, recommended it to a friend who has been looking for a new laptop for a while.
#17
Gah bloody HUKD went poop on me again.

Marvin I agree on the Memory, seen too many 1gb/2gb vista laptops which are just appauling compared to a 3gb Win7 laptop of similar spec.
#18
schizoboy
Gah bloody HUKD went poop on me again.

Marvin I agree on the Memory, seen too many 1gb/2gb vista laptops which are just appauling compared to a 3gb Win7 laptop of similar spec.


How much of this is down to Win7 vs Vista compared to the memory?
As said above, have recommended this deal to a friend, with the only caveat being that this machine runs on Vista. Haven't used Win7 myself yet, so not sure if this makes a big difference?
#19
MarvinHC;8171021
How much of this is down to Win7 vs Vista compared to the memory?
As said above, have recommended this deal to a friend, with the only caveat being that this machine runs on Vista. Haven't used Win7 myself yet, so not sure if this makes a big difference?


IMO it does, I've upgraded a desktop and a laptop from Vista to Win7, the only pain in the bum was getting all the drivers ready before hand so that everything installed OK, I also upgraded their memory, streamlined Windows7 a little bit, and Vista looks like a Goliath resource eating fat sloth.

Both were out of any guarantee or warranty period though.
#20
schizoboy
IMO it does, I've upgraded a desktop and a laptop from Vista to Win7, the only pain in the bum was getting all the drivers ready before hand so that everything installed OK, I also upgraded their memory, streamlined Windows7 a little bit, and Vista looks like a Goliath resource eating fat sloth.

Both were out of any guarantee or warranty period though.


Tempted now to upgrade my old Dell with 2GB memory from Vista to Win7 as well. Just have to get hold of Win7 at a reasonable price. After all these nice introductory offers, there are no more good deals available from what I can see :(
#21
MarvinHC;8171090
Tempted now to upgrade my old Dell with 2GB memory from Vista to Win7 as well. Just have to get hold of Win7 at a reasonable price. After all these nice introductory offers, there are no more good deals available from what I can see :(


I am still gutted I only bought one £44 copy from Tesco in September last year, the price has risen to £80 to £90 to £120 since and stayed there.
The lack of OEM options and the ddr3 switchover is what made me upgrade everyone's computer where I could or get a new one if needbe last year.

Current legitmate Windows7 copies along with memory pricing means upgrading now isn't as value for money as it was 6-8months ago.
#22
when i bought my laptop with vista it was ok got on the band wagon paid £45 for upgrade to windows 7 it ok but why pay the extra stick with vista spend the upgrade money on some thing else
#23
Decent price this one. Looking for a new laptop, and will either be the pavilion I've just posted £379 at amazon, or one of the athlon dual cores with radeon 3200 at ebuyer.
#24
Does anyone have a link to the Windows 7 student offer and is it still valid?
#25
rash
To put things into perspective, I bought a Inspiron 1545 yesterday for £318 (delivered). Specs are:



(less ram & crappier GPU but better CPU - but also better build qualiy in my experience; £250 dell still works fine whereas £450 PB has broken down!)


I have got Inspiron 1545 (T4200,3GB,160GB,Intel 4500HD) and I think it's utter rubbish - the made quality of that model is very poor thus I can hardly imagine of the Packard Bell being worse.

Hot deal OP
#26
7777777
I have got Inspiron 1545 (T4200,3GB,160GB,Intel 4500HD) and I think it's utter rubbish - the made quality of that model is very poor thus I can hardly imagine of the Packard Bell being worse.

Hot deal OP


That is why I opted for a Studio above the Inspiron range. :thumbsup:
#27
7777777
I have got Inspiron 1545 (T4200,3GB,160GB,Intel 4500HD) and I think it's utter rubbish - the made quality of that model is very poor thus I can hardly imagine of the Packard Bell being worse.

Hot deal OP


Really? I bought the old inspiron which was very plasticy but it was tough plastic and it still works whereas a new Acer has broken down.

I'll have a look one it actually arrives, it's OK for office and web browsing.
#28
Dell 1564 to me seems to trump nearly all at this price, core i3 and 1080p playback in a solid attractive case for £400, or look at the outlet for ones with ati cards or i5 chips for around the same price. I3 is really cutting into c2d's value nowadays.
#29
Cheers OP.. Been waiting on A good Spec lappy since Xmas.. My Daughter Thanks You..... and so do I cause I can play games on this Guy also... AVP2 networked... here I come
#30
By the way, to trump i3, you need the top t8000+ end of the c2d chips, and machines powering them are hundreds more. I5's need extreme c2d's!
#31
What graphics cards are in the £400 laptops you are talking about gunark?
suspended#32
Looks like a nice laptop, but a couple of questions:

Is this going to be good enough to play FM10, civ4 type games? Not overly interested in graphics heavy games like crysis (i'm more of a sim city, civ4 FM10 nerd!!)

I presume there is no way this'll come with a windows 7 upgrade voucher? How much would windows 7 cost otherwise?

Cheers!
#33
jimbogreen
Looks like a nice laptop, but a couple of questions:

Is this going to be good enough to play FM10, civ4 type games? Not overly interested in graphics heavy games like crysis (i'm more of a sim city, civ4 FM10 nerd!!)

I presume there is no way this'll come with a windows 7 upgrade voucher? How much would windows 7 cost otherwise?

Cheers!


Yeah this will play those games easily and will play more intensive games then that as well. Just not obviously the latest games.

No I doubt it would otherwise it would state, this will be one reason for the price, as stockists are trying to remove vista from sale. Not sure on prices anymore but windows 7 isnt too expensive compared to what the last few OSs cost.
#34
The dells have an integrated intel hd accelerated chipset or optional ati hd4330. The intel is not bad, it'll do hd video, depends what you want it for. I want it for audio work so raw power is best. I didn't notice it has Vista? Surely not good for longevity? Budget down the line for a 7 upgraydd...
#35
Was going for the Acer 6930G or 7530G but wasn't too fussed about Blu-Ray so this is great for me. Voted hot. Thanks for the heads up (This wasn't on Amazon last night when I looked)
#36
So this is better for playing games on it than the dell at the same price...
#37
I have this laptop, its VERY good and fast, highly recommended!
#38
please stop picking on vista...a copy with all the proper updates is as good as 7 :thumbsup:

7 actually is a vista with all the updates repackaged to cash in on the hype...:thinking:

have both and i can see no difference, i've been living with vista for over a year now and it's as stable as 7...

honestly i think it's the im a PC thing war against MAC that's annoying people...but then some MAC users deserve it for thinking they're somewhere in an upper class compared to us muppets who still use pcs, windows all that...
#39
This seems good... I'm torn between this and core i5 Dell from the outlet.... my budget is £400 and both these fit the bill...

Just wondering about performance, reliability and usability... Which would seem better value the Dell Outlet Core i5 with 3gb ram ok graphics card or this Packard Bell?

Can anyone comment on the respective build qaulity of the machines?

Thanks
#40
Here's the Dell specs for ref:

Inspiron 1564
(System Identifier: EJ8LZ32Y)


Inspiron 1564
English Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)

System Price : £320.66 - not including VAT and Delivery

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Operating System
English Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)
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Memory
3072MB (1x1024+1x2048) 1067MHz DDR3 Dual Channel
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Hard Disk Drive
250GB (5400rpm)
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Certified Refurbished
Certified Refurbished
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NoteBook Screen
15.6in High Definition (1366X768) WLED
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Processor
Intel i5-430M(2.26GHz)
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System Color
Obsidian Black
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MISC
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Dell Wireless 1397 (802.11 b g)
Camera Integrated 1.3 Mega Pixel Camera
misc
Battery Primary 6-cell 48W/HR
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Base
Inspiron 1564
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Media Bay
8X DVD+/-RW with Software, including software



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I've seen one with graphics card - but price goes over £400 when taking VAT and delivery into account

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