PACKARD BELL IM2415 Refurbished PC Base Unit * Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor * (2.40GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache) * Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium * 3GB Memory * 500GB Hard Drive £289.99 - HotUKDeals
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PACKARD BELL IM2415 Refurbished PC Base Unit * Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor * (2.40GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache) * Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium * 3GB Memory * 500GB Hard Drive £289.99

£289.99 @ Currys
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor * (2.40GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache) * Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium * 3GB Memory * 500GB Hard Drive * Multi-Format Dual Layer D…
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8y, 6m agoFound 8 years, 6 months ago
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor
* (2.40GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache)
* Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
* 3GB Memory
* 500GB Hard Drive

* Multi-Format Dual Layer DVD Re-Writer
* 256MB nVidia GeForce 7050MB Graphics
* 4 USB Connections
* 18-In-1 Card Reader

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Technical specification
Attribute Value Benefit
Processor Type Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Clock-Speed 2.4 Ghz
Front Side BUS 1066MHz
Cache 8 MB
Operating-System Windows Vista Premium
RAM Memory 3072 MB
Hard Disk Capacity 500 GB
Optical Drive 1 Multi-Format Dual Layer DVD Re-Writer
Plug In Removable Hard Drive NO
Built-in TV Tuner NO Enables you to watch TV on your PC by connecting a external aerial socket
Built-in Digital TV Tuner NO Enables you to watch Digital TV on your PC by connecting a external aerial socket
Remote Control NO Enables you to operate your equipment from a remote handset
802.11g Wireless Network Ready NO Allows you to connect to an existing wireless network such as in a office or a wireless hot spot
Graphics Memory 256mb MB The higher the memory the better quality images you are display
Graphics Description nVidia GeForce 7050mb 256mb
Sound Card Onboard The quality of the sound generated by the PC will depend on how powerful the sound card is and the quality of the speakers
Media Card Reader 8-In-1 Allows the computer to read and transfer files onto a digital media card often found in digital cameras
Built-In HP Docking Station NO
No of USB connections 4 The more connections the computer has the more equipment you can connect to your computer e.g. modem, printer, scanner, digital camera, PDA
No of PCI Slots 2 These slots are used to add hardware to your computer e.g. a video card
Keyboard YES
Wireless Keyboard and Mouse NO
Mouse YES
Weight 10 kg This is the weight of the appliance in KG
Height 387 mm
Width 180 mm
Depth 400 mm
Network LAN N/a

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#1
Nice post. Put the price in the thread title and it'll become a nicer post :)
#2
sorry
#3
"Packard Bell IM2415 Refurbished PC, Intel Q6600 2.4GHz Quad, 3GB RAM, 500GB Drive, Vista Home Premium, £299 delivered @ Currys (+Quidco)"
#4
i'm pretty sure that's the GeForce 7050 PV; see some info here: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2152&page=2 hopefully the PC has HDMI as a result, tho that may not be the case here, looks like the GPU uses up to 256MB of system RAM during gameplay
#5
Change the psu and the graphics card, then you got a nice machijne there.
#6
thanks for your post
#7
Great find, voted hot, is that itegrated graphics or dedicated?
#8
kobirulali
Great find, voted hot, is that itegrated graphics or dedicated?


integrated, rival for the AMD 690G, yr looking at around 20fps in doom 3 at med res, so you'd need a proper GPU for modern gaming
#9
curently, currys doesn't pay quidco
#10
AugQX
integrated, rival for the AMD 690G, yr looking at around 20fps in doom 3 at med res, so you'd need a proper GPU for modern gaming


Can you add a dedicated graphics card to this system (say something like a Zotac 8800)?

Thanks! :thumbsup:
#11
grannie_mac
Can you add a dedicated graphics card to this system (say something like a Zotac 8800)?

Thanks! :thumbsup:


the spec mentions PCI slots, i think they mean PCI-E, most mobos that cope with a quad core will have PCI-E slots

with it having the 7050 chipset which came out summer last year, it's a fairly up to date motherboard, so PCI-E will be present, as for the Zotac 8800 it depends on the length of the card, most cases will accommodate an 8800, but there are a few out there that do not, don't open the box that the graphics card comes in before you know the length, that way you can send it back if you have made a mistake
#12
I bought the model 2414 and put in a 8600gt. The best card I could get with a 250w fan.
Performs well with a Windows Experience Index of 4.5 from 2.something!
Good deal, although I was unable to burn my recovery disc.
I am guessing that as it was a refurb the previous owner did that and returned it!
Otherwise looked mint.
#13
Hmm... DSG refurb....

Given that I've never once seen a single PC purchased from DSG (that's about 5 pcs/laptops over the space of nearly a decade) that hasn't catastrophically failed within a week, and the last two refurbs I saw from DSG one had almost completely destroyed mouse pad / buttons (on a laptop) and another had a hard drive with about a billion bad sectors (just the act of turning it on corrupted the C partition, had to recover from D, luckily that worked and the first thing i did was burn recovery disks, then it went completely and i had to replace, this is all within a week)....

It may be ok but basically don't expect DSG to have fixed the original issue, and you'll either have to reply on PB warrenty or your self to fix it.
#14
Packard Bell refurb is a no no for me. For the specs it looks like a good price, but it's an unreliable packard bell so I'm not voting cold or hot. Plus it's Currys, makes it that much more worse.
#15
It comes with Geforce 7050, so it should be nForce 610i chipset.

Features
Support for Quad Core CPUs and 1333 MHz Front Side Bus
Support for 1200 MHz SLI-Ready Memory with EPP
"Support for up to 46 PCI Express (PCIe) lanes"
Support for up to 10 USB 2.0 ports
Support for 6 3 Gbit/s SATA and 2 PATA drives, which can be linked together in any combination of SATA and PATA to form a RAID 0, 1, 5, or 0+1
NVIDIA nTune, a tool for easy overclocking and timing configurations
HDA (Azalia) Audio
Dual Onboard Gigabit Ethernet
NVIDIA FirstPacket and DualNet

From wikipedia
#16
I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole.
I bought a refurbed PB laptop 15 months ago. It has never worked properly from day one (Screen freeze) I couldn't get them to fix it when it was in manufacturer warranty - I was made to recover the PC over and over and Over by staff that just follow scripts and don't know how to actually deal with the problem presented to them. (Maybe not their fault - just poor training)
I finally bought an extended warranty as I knew I would have further problems with the laptop - and I have. Managed to get the motherboard replaced and the HDD but the problem still remains.
Customer service is a bit hit and miss - some are quite helpful, others treat you as if you know nothing about PC's and they are the font of all knowledge. They can be a bit rude.

I know my experience is a bad one, and you may be lucky but I just wanted to let you know about what happened to me so you can make an informed choice.
BTW, my laptop is still not working :0( Boo Hoo!!
#17
In fact, the break down price of each components will be nearly the same as 289.99 pounds excluding Windows Vista. If you can, why not just purchased separated components and assemble by youself.
banned#18
I bought one of these the last time it was on offer a few months ago. It has worked perfectly from day one and I've had no problems whatsoever.
#19
7777777
curently, currys doesn't pay quidco


Quidco has lost a lot of sites recently but you can get 4.5% at Cashbackkings.
#20
I bought this PC new from PC world a few months ago and it's been brilliant, the power supply is a little terrible as is the GPU (which by the way is integrated into the Mobo) I've just replaced both and had a little trouble installing my new 780w PSU due to the size of the case so if your going to upgrade I recommend going for a smaller one. There is only one PCI-E x16 slot which can be a pain and the motherboard isn't the best. See picture of inside connections. http://support.packardbell.com/uk/item/index.php?i=instr_intconn_denver10&pi=platform_amadeus_imedia

Edit: I installed a PNY nVidia 9800GT 512MB graphics card and there was plenty of room left so it could easily fit an 8800GT
#21
Unless I'm missing something, you could build this PC new for around £255 - only missing out on Vista.

Cheap case + PSU + K/B + Mouse - £19 (ebuyer combo)
7050 equipped mATX M/B - £31 (ebuyer)
Q6600 - £110 (scan - when on today only)
500GB HDD - as low as £45 (when on scan's today only)
52-in-1 card reader - £5 (scan)
DVD-RW - £13 (scan/ebuyer on sale)
3GB RAM - £30 (cheap stuff from various places)

That's all for £253 with full warranties on new products and dealing with either ebuyer/scan CS or direct with manufacturers.

OK, you have to be patient for the specials, but still very doable - esp with Scan Hexus/AVForums delivery... That leaves £37 to put towards an op system (Vista Home Premium is £57 OEM) or better case, M/B, GPU or PSU - the PSU probably being the priority - wait for a nice FSP 700W for £30ish on Scan today only.

Of course, some people prefer paying the £37 for someone to install M$ bloatware and put average components together, but it's not for me. It's cold for someone with the ability to build a system and install the software, warm for someone who doesn't mind a refurb...

So what's the policy? Am I allowed to vote cold even though it's a good deal for some people? I'll abstain....
#22
sharp910sh
Change the psu and the graphics card, then you got a nice machijne there.


God why say this ****. You might as well say add more memory and it will be quicker. You can always upgrade every computer to a higher spec and it will improve, but at a price (at which point it may no longer be a hot deal). FOR THE PRICE this is a good machine. Nice find :thumbsup:
#23
Trosticles
Unless I'm missing something, you could build this PC new for around £255 - only missing out on Vista.

Cheap case + PSU + K/B + Mouse - £19 (ebuyer combo)
7050 equipped mATX M/B - £31 (ebuyer)
Q6600 - £110 (scan - when on today only)
500GB HDD - as low as £45 (when on scan's today only)
52-in-1 card reader - £5 (scan)
DVD-RW - £13 (scan/ebuyer on sale)
3GB RAM - £30 (cheap stuff from various places)

That's all for £253 with full warranties on new products and dealing with either ebuyer/scan CS or direct with manufacturers.

OK, you have to be patient for the specials, but still very doable - esp with Scan Hexus/AVForums delivery... That leaves £37 to put towards an op system (Vista Home Premium is £57 OEM) or better case, M/B, GPU or PSU - the PSU probably being the priority - wait for a nice FSP 700W for £30ish on Scan today only.

Of course, some people prefer paying the £37 for someone to install M$ bloatware and put average components together, but it's not for me. It's cold for someone with the ability to build a system and install the software, warm for someone who doesn't mind a refurb...

So what's the policy? Am I allowed to vote cold even though it's a good deal for some people? I'll abstain....


Thats alot of pi**ing around for the man on the streeet who wants to browse the internet.
#24
pepsi_max2k
Hmm... DSG refurb....

Given that I've never once seen a single PC purchased from DSG (that's about 5 pcs/laptops over the space of nearly a decade) that hasn't catastrophically failed within a week, and the last two refurbs I saw from DSG one had almost completely destroyed mouse pad / buttons (on a laptop) and another had a hard drive with about a billion bad sectors (just the act of turning it on corrupted the C partition, had to recover from D, luckily that worked and the first thing i did was burn recovery disks, then it went completely and i had to replace, this is all within a week)....

It may be ok but basically don't expect DSG to have fixed the original issue, and you'll either have to reply on PB warrenty or your self to fix it.

I hate people like you who give half baked info!

make it brand new or refurbished and we have a deal :):p

None of their machines are good, dunno how this deal is so hot
#25
Trosticles
Unless I'm missing something, you could build this PC new for around £255 - only missing out on Vista.

Cheap case + PSU + K/B + Mouse - £19 (ebuyer combo)
7050 equipped mATX M/B - £31 (ebuyer)
Q6600 - £110 (scan - when on today only)
500GB HDD - as low as £45 (when on scan's today only)
52-in-1 card reader - £5 (scan)
DVD-RW - £13 (scan/ebuyer on sale)
3GB RAM - £30 (cheap stuff from various places)


Yea you are missing something, the motherboard you supplied is a chaep one, and you are forgetting the one year back to base warrentry. £37 for a 1 year warrentry could be worth it. And yea I can build PC's but on the odd ocasion I have had encountered compatibility problems. Trying to sort out which device is causing problem can be difficult because you need spares to swap and pay with (how many people can do that).
#26
Most people don't use computers to their full use anyway. I have had a Packard Bell now for 4 years. It's getting old but has never given me any problems. It's a celeron cpu with 1 gb of ram and has only recently got slow in starting up and doing more than one thing. I think half you guys on here are expecting to pick up a computer from NASA or somewhere for £300!
#27
smegio
Thats alot of pi**ing around for the man on the streeet who wants to browse the internet.


That was kinda my point - it's not for me, but warm if you want someone to put the components together for you. In the end it's up to the individual as to how much they value a pre-built system. That's why it's so hard to vote on these things, and why I abstain. For a high-street shopper a bunch of components is a different product to a pre-built system and would vote this hot on that basis; for many of us this is just a bunch of components - I'd vote cold on that basis. In the end, I think it's best to leave the voting to people who place value on the building of the system.

So, thanks smegio; but I had taken that into account and not voted on that basis. Also, as £300 is a lot of wasted money "for the man on the streeet who wants to browse the internet", this deal is stone cold - they'd be better off with a £150 refurb. :thumbsup:
#28
BeerGoggles
Yea you are missing something, the motherboard you supplied is a chaep one, and you are forgetting the one year back to base warrentry. £37 for a 1 year warrentry could be worth it. And yea I can build PC's but on the odd ocasion I have had encountered compatibility problems. Trying to sort out which device is causing problem can be difficult because you need spares to swap and pay with (how many people can do that).


BeerGoggles, and others who wish to constructively criticise my post (which I appreciate as discussion helps everyone), when I asked if I'm missing anything, I meant missing a component rather than missing the fact that someone has to be confident enough to put the correct parts together - I did say you would need to build this alternative system, and that you would miss out on a M$ OS ;-)

To respond to your post specifically:
1. as for the mainboard, you may want to check the link posted earlier that provides you with the layout of the motherboard that PB supplies - it's mATX with the same specs (according to available info) as the one I was referring to (MSI P6NGM-L); so rather than being "a chaep one", it's more accurately described as "an equivalent one", I think.
2. as for the warranty, all the components I listed come with at least a 1 year warranty. I never said this didn't have a warranty; I was only making the point that by spreading the warranties around by buying components, you have several ports of call to get things fixed. Also, it means only organising the return of one component rather than the whole system.
3. as for compatability, the CPU is specifically supported, the GPU is built in, the SATA components will almost certainly work. It's only really the memory modules that could cause a problem if DOA and even then you'd have 2 modules (1x2GB plus 1x1GB) to switch around to find the culprit. DOA RAM is relatively rare, and it's not a great deal of swapping for me, though it may be for some.
4. as for how many people can do that, I already stated (and hopefully implied throughout my post) that it depends on the person, and that's why I abstained from voting.

I was only stating the option for those, like me, who were perhaps wondering what it would cost to build a relatively equivalent system and then decide whether it was a good deal. So I still don't think I've missed anything, but would like to be told if I have...

Cheers.
#29
Grapevine
There is only one PCI-E x16 slot which can be a pain and the motherboard isn't the best. See picture of inside connections. http://support.packardbell.com/uk/item/index.php?i=instr_intconn_denver10&pi=platform_amadeus_imedia


Is that definately the motherboard? Becuase the spec of the machine is 3GB of RAM and that picture only shows 2 memory sockets (not sure if thats the right terminology!), unless you can actually get 2 sticks of 1.5gb each?
#30
Does anyone know if the Motherboard supports PCI-E 2.0 Graphics Cards if have a Geforce 8800GS which would go perfect with this machine
#31
MrNiceMan
Is that definately the motherboard? Becuase the spec of the machine is 3GB of RAM and that picture only shows 2 memory sockets (not sure if thats the right terminology!), unless you can actually get 2 sticks of 1.5gb each?


Presuming it's the correct MB, it says it only supports single channel, so you'd use a 2GB and a 1GB, I think.
#32
I thought that the RAM would need to be identical?

I put my last PC together awhile ago and I havent really kept up to date with the latest stuff, I really need a new processor though and this seems like a good deal for the quad, memory and also graphics, I know my hardware wont be compatable with this new machine, I even tried to put together the machine like someone posted before with the same-ish spec but its impossible to do it for less than £300
#33
MrNiceMan
I thought that the RAM would need to be identical?

I put my last PC together awhile ago and I havent really kept up to date with the latest stuff, I really need a new processor though and this seems like a good deal for the quad, memory and also graphics, I know my hardware wont be compatable with this new machine, I even tried to put together the machine like someone posted before with the same-ish spec but its impossible to do it for less than £300


You don't need identical RAM modules - only for dual channel.

And, I posted it before showing that it is possible - as long as you don't need Vista.

If I were building for under £300, I'd get a £70 processor, or perhaps £80 E7200, put the money towards a better graphics card, probably choose a slightly better MB without onboard graphics, use 2GB of dual channel RAM... there's too much to change and it's off point. For me, there's no point in a Q6600 with a low-end GPU - I'd rather compromise the CPU a bit. But some may prefer the CPU power.
#34
To be honest I dont really need anything other than the Q6600, RAM (3-4GB), reasonable graphics card and motherboard (mid range) and a fast 500GB hard drive would be nice, All the sites I',m looking at though (aria, scan, microdirect) The prices are coming way over £300, I saw your post where you mentioned memory was only £30, which site was that?
#35
BeerGoggles
God why say this ****. You might as well say add more memory and it will be quicker. You can always upgrade every computer to a higher spec and it will improve, but at a price (at which point it may no longer be a hot deal). FOR THE PRICE this is a good machine. Nice find :thumbsup:


I actually disagree as I wouldn't use the Q6600 unless I was playing games - which I couldn't do all that successfully with a 7050. I'd therefore only use this machine for basic tasks (I don't do CAD or much video editing) so it would be a waste of money unless I added the better PSU and GPU - for me.

I have to agree with sharp910sh - I don't think it's all that balanced (caviar for a CPU with Fosters for a GPU), but by adding the PSU and GPU (or having an E5200 instead of the Q6600 and saving £50-£60) it would be. Hence it would become a hotter deal by being more expensive (or less). But hey, while I'm adding components, I might as well just build from scratch and get exactly what I want. But, as you note, you can always change the system. Perhaps what sharp910sh was saying was that for him/her it's a good deal as you could afford a PSU and GPU upgrade so all the components are good.
#36
MrNiceMan
To be honest I dont really need anything other than the Q6600, RAM (3-4GB), reasonable graphics card and motherboard (mid range) and a fast 500GB hard drive would be nice, All the sites I',m looking at though (aria, scan, microdirect) The prices are coming way over £300, I saw your post where you mentioned memory was only £30, which site was that?


At Aria - on SuperSpecial, you can get PC5300 2GB for £15 and 1GB for £5 = £20 plus VAT and del = about £30. Or just stick with a 2GB kit = more useful when you upgrade to a MB with 4 DIMM slots.
#37
MrNiceMan
To be honest I dont really need anything other than the Q6600, RAM (3-4GB), reasonable graphics card and motherboard (mid range) and a fast 500GB hard drive would be nice, All the sites I',m looking at though (aria, scan, microdirect) The prices are coming way over £300, I saw your post where you mentioned memory was only £30, which site was that?


I'd get this RAM http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710 I wouldn't recommend any more than 3GB of RAM unless you have a 64bit OS, this is a good HDD, I have the same one: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124228
1 Like #38
So, run this by me again, I am not seeing the "deal" here:-

Nine quid more than I (and a lot of others) paid for a NEW Dell Quad core from Tesco recently, OK, its a slightly bigger HD and RAM; and this is is a "refurb" (ie a fixed up broken one), and it is from PACKHARD BELL, and you are buying it from a DSG retailer?

You people have got to have fallen out of a very high tree on to something hard :-(
#39
@ Mr Nice Man, yep that's definitely the Mobo and @ sponge_miester yes it supports PCI-E 2.0 as I have a 2.0 card plugged into the x16 slot an nVidia 9800GT to be specific, and the RAM set out is 1x 2GB and 1x 1GB.
#40
Hot!!
i have just bought a refurb packard bell laptop from currys- no problems whatsoever!:)

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