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Palm Zire With Satv Nav

It's small and light, yet stores thousands of names, numbers, appointments and memos.
· Add a photo to a contact so you'll never forget a name.
· It's easy and fast to find stuff, since you can organize appointments by category, color and more.
· Save a backup copy of your information on your computer · Set alarms and reminders.
· It's easy to customize by adding software or accessories.
Be as organized as you want to be. Integrated Sat Nav with UK Maps
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#1
I still personally think that the Palm UI is better suited for PDA functions than Windows Mobile, and for £60 you can't go wrong.

I'm guessing it is the "Palm Zire 31 PDA + Kirrio GPS Kit Sat Nav" that's often refurbished. That's a 200MHz ARM, 160x160 display (low res), 16MB, PalmOS 5.2.8.
#2
Is this really a good deal?
#3
JeeBeePSB
I still personally think that the Palm UI is better suited for PDA functions than Windows Mobile, and for £60 you can't go wrong.

I'm guessing it is the "Palm Zire 31 PDA + Kirrio GPS Kit Sat Nav" that's often refurbished. That's a 200MHz ARM, 160x160 display (low res), 16MB, PalmOS 5.2.8.


Thats true but lets be honest, you aint gonna get satnav other than the Goodmans GNAV20 cheaper elsewhere and if you look hard enough you'll find other software that will run on this :pirate:

:-D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K710CkSpRM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPtnkN9xZdc

Watch these vids, you lot cant tell me its NOT a bargain!

Kirrio Wired GPS Receiver. Pinched this from PocketGPS.... much thanks

The Kirrio wired GPS receiver is a rebadged TFAC MG30. I know this device really well as it is permanently wired into my Ford Probe, and I use it virtually everyday. It is a sexy looking GPS receiver that performs well.



I have been using this for about six months now and it has proved reliable and trustworthy in that time. A quick check of the TTFF times showed that my receiver and the Kirrio one returned similar timings, as you would expect. So there have been no changes made to the hardware.



Kirrio GPS Navigation software

The final and probably most important part of the package is the Kirrio Navigation software. This is the ViaMichelin Mapsonic GPS Navigation software complete with European maps. This is a GPS enabled voice guided system that is available in both Palm OS and Pocket PC formats. This is a preview of the Mapsonic software a full review will be published later.



Mapsonic provides point to point street routing from source to destination of anywhere covered by your loaded maps. The countries covered by the maps are: - Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, England, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Scotland, Wales.



The map data is provided by Teleatlas and varies in detail between the countries. For instance the UK has pretty much full coverage whereas Ireland has full coverage of some major towns and cities, but major road thereafter. Examples are Dublin, Limerick and Galway have street level coverage compared to Shannon which is isolated from the road network.



The currency of the map data supplied appeared somewhat out of date. A new road opened one year ago was not on the map, neither was one opened two years ago. This was a spot check made on the North and South sections of the new A130 in Essex.



I had a word with Widget who supplied the review package and they provided some map updates which had been released since the package had been sent for review. These map updates did have the raod that was opened two years ago. This is in line with all Teleatlas provided data, and is not specific to Mapsonic.



With Mapsonic you get a PC application (MapStore) to help you manage your maps. Using Mapstore you can select various areas of the main map to export to your Palm PDA. Why would you want to do this? The main reason would be to optimise the map data and the available space on your SD card. The full mapset of the UK and Ireland will not fit on a 256Mb SD card. MapStore allows you to create maps with multiple rectangular selections that will reduce the amount of storage required by creating large areas of destination and start points but just corridors along your route.



You can only create routes within the map segments that you currently have open. This can be an issue when traveling from say the UK to Italy as there is no single map that has both the start point and the destination. This means that you have to create a number of maps and perform intermediate routing.



As with most street routing applications when you deviate from your planned route Mapsonic will re-route you to get you back on track again.



With the routes that I have tried out so far the routing was acceptable though, like most applications, not quite the same as the one I would have taken. There again it doesn't have my local knowledge. One interesting route plotted would have taken me half a mile out of my way going round a one way system rather than simply turning right and meeting the one way system 200 yards down the road.



The Mapsonic software comes with a large number of Points Of Interest (POIs) both in categories and actual locations. These range from the normal transport (airport, car park, Petrol Station) through to entertainment shopping centres etc. You can also create your own points of interest. This can be done both in MapStore on the PC and the MapSonic Palm PDA application.



One thing that I do like about the Palm Tungsten Display is the resolution. At 320x320 there is a lot more real estate than the PocketPC of 240x320. This means that a lot more information can be displayed on the screen. I really cant wait to get my hands on the Tungsten T3 at 320x480 that must really be something.



A word of warning when you are installing MapSonic. You have to install the application to the main Palm PDA memory. If you try to install to the SD card the application will not run. It took me ages to try and work out what had failed, the documentation is not too good in this area. I did eventually find the answer on the Michelin web site after I had solved the problem.

http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/kirrio-palm-gps.php
#4
ok, potentially silly question alert. my fiancee is not so good at getting around london (she's from canada). would the sat nav facility on this help her? does it work for people on foot? does it work out of the box or is there a lot you have to do to make it work? is this the best option? sorry for so many questions!
#5
Dusty, you drive a ford probe... how can we take your recommendation seriously :giggle:

ps only joking, i had one a few years back
#6
do ineed to buy a seperate gps receiver?........ or is it included
#7
do we know if its a colour screen and what the screen size is?
#8
is this like a normal sat nav? i.e. tom tom
#9
bigjt
Dusty, you drive a ford probe... how can we take your recommendation seriously :giggle:

ps only joking, i had one a few years back



Ford Probe :?

Christ, not at today's petrol prices! I drive a diesel :w00t:

GPS receiver included and its colour screen....
#10
does it come fuschia?

Hot, hot, hot, bought one.
#11
Will TT actually run on this ? it looks underpowered compared to the usual PDAs. See they got the N30 without gps as well
#12
Looking at user reviews, it seems the only way to get this to work in a car is to drive with the GPS receiver attached to the roof, Kojak stylee..........

Who loves ya baby? ;-)
#13
Its out of stock now :(
#14
dancrawley
Looking at user reviews, it seems the only way to get this to work in a car is to drive with the GPS receiver attached to the roof, Kojak stylee..........

Who loves ya baby? ;-)



If ya ain't got one of those reflective windscreens you could always stick it on the inside. Ill be mounting mine in the top right of my screen or on the interior mirror and try and hide the wire somewhere :w00t:
#15
Goodman
Its out of stock now :(


There are loads goind on fleabay at the moment if you missed out - seem to be selling for about the same price - around 40/50 quid ish
#17
I'm not sure which version of ViaMichelin this will come with, but if it's 2.5x it can be updated to V3 (according to Amazon reviewer, this includes postcode search and speed camera POI) for free here:
http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/jsp/nav/MaTelechargementHomeRub5.jsp
#18
Back in stock! :w00t:
#19
turned up first thing this morning, can't fault the service - will have a play this evening.

if you look hard enough you'll find other software that will run on this :pirate:


Dusty, Any pointers appreciated!
#20
Mine turned up this morning and it is a recon unit (never said that on the website). Apart from a couple of liilte scratches you would never know. Bonus though..... it came with the memory card for the sat nav in the unit and one came with the GPS equipment. So I have 2x memory disks with the maps etc. on !
#21
Just found out I'd been charged twice on my CC for this, waiting for someone from Valuetech to ring me back - anyone had similar problem?
#22
Can anyone talk me into / out of buying this, just can't decide!!
#23
I sold mine on without even opening it as the Pocket Loox N100 deal from Ebuyer or Play with full Euro maps came along and was so much better for the money.
That's why I'm even more annoyed Valuetech have double charged me.

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