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Panasonic DMP-UB700 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player (Brand New) - £249.00 @ Hughes/eBay

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2 Likes #1
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!
#2
The_Guru
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!

Seconded and usually more compact than the bulky separates to boot. See no point whatsoever in buying a standalone player when Xbox One S is the exact same price or even cheaper.

I'm sure someone will say the separate has better picture and sound though logic dictates that is impossible in the modern world where there is a digital signal all the way from the disc to the TV so zero potential for loss or misinterpretation. In the days of analogue CRT TVs and connections (RCA/Scart, even component) there could have been some truth to this but not anymore...
#3
The_Guru
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!

And a worse 4K blu ray player. It doesn't output 4K discs correctly and people regularly run into issues with discs not playing/freezing. The Xbox One S is a games console first and a half assed 4K bluray player second.
#4
ST3123
The_Guru
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!

Seconded and usually more compact than the bulky separates to boot. See no point whatsoever in buying a standalone player when Xbox One S is the exact same price or even cheaper.

I'm sure someone will say the separate has better picture and sound though logic dictates that is impossible in the modern world where there is a digital signal all the way from the disc to the TV so zero potential for loss or misinterpretation. In the days of analogue CRT TVs and connections (RCA/Scart, even component) there could have been some truth to this but not anymore...

It's not as simple as "they're all digital so they are all the same".
#5
Personally speaking, I wouldn't buy refurbished on important and expensive tech without knowing why it is refurbished and if indeed something had gone wrong with it in the first place - necessitating it to be refurbished.

Plus, refurbished = a degraded and much shorter warranty in 99% of cases.
suspended 1 Like #6
Biddy2
The_Guru
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!

And a worse 4K blu ray player. It doesn't output 4K discs correctly and people regularly run into issues with discs not playing/freezing. The Xbox One S is a games console first and a half assed 4K bluray player second.



Most people on here wouldn't notice the difference in output quality. Unless you're viewing it on a top of the range 4K TV, and are calibrating your system properly, the differences will be lost on most people. And if you're on a DEALS site, it's unlikely you're getting top of the range so stop being a snob. These people are right that it's cheaper to get an Xbox one S which includes a games console to boot. That's a better DEAL than this standalone.
3 Likes #7
Of course a decent player will peform better.

What if I have no interest in a games console?
;)
suspended#8
collectorcol
Of course a decent player will peform better.

What if I have no interest in a games console?
;)


Just enjoy all the features the Xbox one S brings such as all the additional apps that can be installed. Will be slicker/quicker to navigate around Netflix, iplayer etc than the Panasonic.
1 Like #9
Really Good Player. Game console eat more power. Why cold?
2 Likes #10
BagABargain78
Biddy2
The_Guru
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!
And a worse 4K blu ray player. It doesn't output 4K discs correctly and people regularly run into issues with discs not playing/freezing. The Xbox One S is a games console first and a half assed 4K bluray player second.
Most people on here wouldn't notice the difference in output quality. Unless you're viewing it on a top of the range 4K TV, and are calibrating your system properly, the differences will be lost on most people. And if you're on a DEALS site, it's unlikely you're getting top of the range so stop being a snob. These people are right that it's cheaper to get an Xbox one S which includes a games console to boot. That's a better DEAL than this standalone.

Snob? Come off of it with throwing insults around. It's childish. If I want my films to look the best they can on the screen I own (no, a top of the range 4k tv is not a requirement for that) then I want to buy a device that gives me that with the best value. This is one of the best players on the market and cheaper than most. If somebody wants the same then the Xbox One S is worse value. (Heads up, it's gamma curve is totally incorrect and thus outputs HDR incorrectly too)

The Xbox One uses more electricity so over the long run, will cost more than this. It also as I stated freezes on many discs and in some cases, refuses to play some. I, and many others, wanting a perfectly capable 4K player that works as it should for a cheaper price than other brands does not make us snobs. It makes us want to get the best bang for buck. A deal basically.

Not everybody wants to play games on an Xbox One S and for the £50 price difference, this is a better and more capable blu ray player that uses less power and will play any disc you throw at it. It will have proper support with firmwares from Panasonic whereas the Xbox One S's 4K blu ray player is nothing but an afterthought. Microsoft are in the business of making and selling games on that, not giving you a robust 4K blu ray player.


Edited By: Biddy2 on Jun 09, 2017 17:26: Corrected bad explanation.
1 Like #11
Biddy2
If I want my films to look the best they can (no, a top of the range 4k tv is not a requirement for that)

I'm pretty sure for films to look the best they can, they would need to be on the best screen?
2 Likes #12
The xboxone as a 4k player has been universally panned. The only console thats ever got praise as a disc spinner was the ps3 for blu ray. on release reviews gad it as good as £300 dedicated player. And it wasnt surpassed for a few years. .
1 Like #13
ezzer72
Biddy2
If I want my films to look the best they can (no, a top of the range 4k tv is not a requirement for that)
I'm pretty sure for films to look the best they can, they would need to be on the best screen?

I worded that badly. What I meant was for them to look the best they can on the screen you own. I bought this player the last time it was on offer and the jump in quality was very easy to see. I by no means own a top of the range tv and I could see a difference. :)

Edited By: Biddy2 on Jun 09, 2017 17:25
#14
Biddy2
BagABargain78
Biddy2
The_Guru
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!
And a worse 4K blu ray player. It doesn't output 4K discs correctly and people regularly run into issues with discs not playing/freezing. The Xbox One S is a games console first and a half assed 4K bluray player second.
Most people on here wouldn't notice the difference in output quality. Unless you're viewing it on a top of the range 4K TV, and are calibrating your system properly, the differences will be lost on most people. And if you're on a DEALS site, it's unlikely you're getting top of the range so stop being a snob. These people are right that it's cheaper to get an Xbox one S which includes a games console to boot. That's a better DEAL than this standalone.

Snob? Come off of it with throwing insults around. It's childish. If I want my films to look the best they can on the screen I own (no, a top of the range 4k tv is not a requirement for that) then I want to buy a device that gives me that with the best value. This is one of the best players on the market and cheaper than most. If somebody wants the same then the Xbox One S is worse value. (Heads up, it's gamma curve is totally incorrect and thus outputs HDR incorrectly too)

The Xbox One uses more electricity so over the long run, will cost more than this. It also as I stated freezes on many discs and in some cases, refuses to play some. I, and many others, wanting a perfectly capable 4K player that works as it should for a cheaper price than other brands does not make us snobs. It makes us want to get the best bang for buck. A deal basically.

Not everybody wants to play games on an Xbox One S and for the £50 price difference, this is a better and more capable blu ray player that uses less power and will play any disc you throw at it. It will have proper support with firmwares from Panasonic whereas the Xbox One S's 4K blu ray player is nothing but an afterthought. Microsoft are in the business of making and selling games on that, not giving you a robust 4K blu ray player.



In my honest opinion 4k bluray was dead on arrival. They took to long to get it on the market. Even now the library for 4k bluray isnt massive. Its a shame but online streaming is the way forward. Especially with people having faster broad speeds. Physical media is dying in a nutshell. Even adobe have dropped support for bluray. Mac made it even worse by not having any bluray drives as standard on their machines.
1 Like #15
ST3123
The_Guru
Its cheaper to buy an xbox one s and you get a games console!
Seconded and usually more compact than the bulky separates to boot. See no point whatsoever in buying a standalone player when Xbox One S is the exact same price or even cheaper.
I'm sure someone will say the separate has better picture and sound though logic dictates that is impossible in the modern world where there is a digital signal all the way from the disc to the TV so zero potential for loss or misinterpretation. In the days of analogue CRT TVs and connections (RCA/Scart, even component) there could have been some truth to this but not anymore...

There is plenty of truth to the above that you're claiming is false - it's in the dedicated hardware. You can pound a nail into a wall with the back of a large spanner, but a hammer will do a better job.

I have a variety of blu ray players in the house, and the very high end one is noticeably better than the cheaper ones for picture and sound (better processing), despite being connected by the same HDMI leads.

I won't be in a rush to get a 4k player - they will come down considerably over the next 2 years, and you'll have more than a handful of titles to watch on them by then. The gap between 1080P and 2160P at normal viewing distance isn't hugely impressive, not something i'd pay a hell of a lot more for the privilege.

Edited By: monkeyhanger75 on Jun 09, 2017 17:35
#16
right price to pay is £60 to £70 same as the others. HDR is a failure already but nice to be there as an extra for the people that wants to spend 3 to 4 times as much for a 4k BR vs BR

Edited By: miaomiaobaubau on Jun 09, 2017 20:24: y
1 Like #17
BagABargain78
Just enjoy all the features the Xbox one S brings such as all the additional apps that can be installed. Will be slicker/quicker to navigate around Netflix, iplayer etc than the Panasonic.

My TV does all that effortlessly.

4K is a failure?! 4K is fantastic and more and nore new releases will have the option. Waiting on Logan atm.
#18
kgirisankar
Really Good Player. Game console eat more power. Why cold?


PS4 uses 70watts up and 10 watts in standbye and this uses 20watts and 0.2watts in standbye,might influence some.
#19
morrig
PS4 uses 70watts up and 10 watts in standbye and this uses 20watts and 0.2watts in standbye,might influence some.

Shouldn't influence anyone since no model of PS4 can play UHD discs, which is surely the whole point of this player as standard bluray players are massively cheaper if thats all you want. A power comparison with the Xbox One S would be more relevant since that can actually play UHD discs.

Plus standby wattage is pretty irrelevant anyway as there is no requirement to leave them in standby as consoles can be fully powered down meaning they use nothing at all, only way to do that on a dedicated player is to turn it off at the wall....
#20
ST3123
morrig
PS4 uses 70watts up and 10 watts in standbye and this uses 20watts and 0.2watts in standbye,might influence some.
Shouldn't influence anyone since no model of PS4 can play UHD discs, which is surely the whole point of this player as standard bluray players are massively cheaper if thats all you want. A power comparison with the Xbox One S would be more relevant since that can actually play UHD discs.
Plus standby wattage is pretty irrelevant anyway as there is no requirement to leave them in standby as consoles can be fully powered down meaning they use nothing at all, only way to do that on a dedicated player is to turn it off at the wall....

Xbox One uses 0.5w unless you turn it off at the wall. It uses around 44-50w during UHD playback. This player uses 24w during playback and 0.2w without turning off at the plug. Consoles are not fully powered down without switching them off at the wall too. :)

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