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Panasonic HDC-SD9 1080p Camcorder including 4GB SDHC Memory Card £299.97 @ Currys

£299.97 @ Currys
*IN STORE ONLY* Found this little gem in store sold as an end of line product, not available online as Curry's appear to be replacing their SD9 stock with the new SD20, hurry they will sell like ho… Read More
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*IN STORE ONLY*

Found this little gem in store sold as an end of line product, not available online as Curry's appear to be replacing their SD9 stock with the new SD20, hurry they will sell like hot cakes....

Winner of the 2008 TIPA Best Camcorder Award
Panasonic Digital Camcorder HDC-SD9 (Full HD)
SD Card Camcorder
Progressive 1920x1080p recording (25p)
3CCD Camera System
Face Detection
Pre-Rec Function
0.6 sec Quick start
5.1-Channel Surround Sound System & Zoom Mic
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banned#1
Add the price to your title.:)
#2
bargainhunter18
Add the price to your title.:)

Thanks for the tip off, now added!
#3
same price in pcworld also
#4
good price, got 1 myself
#5
heat added, great find, managed to bag one from pc world southend, they say there was stock in pcworld and currys digital at lakeside if that helps.
#6
Great deal.
#7
Great camera! I bought one a while ago when it was expensive - this is a great price!
#8
Yep, great camera at a very good price. I've had mine about 6 months and it's great. (although I only paid £278 for mine from amazon)

You'll need a powerful pc to do any editing.
#9
I have the HS9 (The Hard drive and SD card version) - and it is very impressive. Sweet deal!

To potential buyers tho - make sure your PC is a decent spec - editing the footage this produces can be pretty slow without lots of RAM and CPU power.....
#10
thedo
I have the HS9 (The Hard drive and SD card version) - and it is very impressive. Sweet deal!

To potential buyers tho - make sure your PC is a decent spec - editing the footage this produces can be pretty slow without lots of RAM and CPU power.....


thanks for the heads up - i knew i got that 8GB of RAM for something :thumbsup:
#11
top camera - fantastic pic outside....not so good in low light, but at under £300 a bargain.
#12
link ?

Sorry just seen "in store only"
#13
Got camcorder I've heard, although I don't fancy spending £600 to get a new pc to edit the footage - which is a major downside for me.

Does anyone know if you can play the AVCHD files directly on a ps3 without encoding them?
#14
moob


Does anyone know if you can play the AVCHD files directly on a ps3 without encoding them?


Yes you can (believe you need to be on one of the latest firmwares though).
#15
nordberg
Yes you can (believe you need to be on one of the latest firmwares though).



Cheers. How large a file would they be for say a 10 min clip at full resolution?
#16
Great camcorder, the joystick menu needs a little getting used to though. Also i find the date/time stays on all the time unless (ie will not go off automatically afete a couple of seconds)

I got mine on the qvc deal about three weeks ago for £274 + del.
#17
for the avchd footage you need to use 8cm dvd -r disks though i think as i havent managed to put any footage on a standard -rw dvd yet (unless im doing something wrong) its a nice light camera, though the editing software bundled is carp, i have just got sony vegas 8 pro and currently learning how to edit properly. if anyone has any tips would be nice to here about them.
#18
haidi123
Great camcorder, the joystick menu needs a little getting used to though. Also i find the date/time stays on all the time unless (ie will not go off automatically afete a couple of seconds)

I got mine on the qvc deal about three weeks ago for £274 + del.


Me too, great piece of kit. The only problem I have now is I need to upgrade my laptop so that I can play the videos!! They appear all glitchy & jerky using VLC media player.
#19
For those that have one of these cameras and edit on a pc, what kind of power do you NEED? We've been editing with 2 Sony HC7 (1440x1080) feeds in Vegas 8 Pro for the last year without any issues on a 2.16gHz laptop and 2GB ram. Will this be enough? Or does the extra resolution require such a jump in computing power? I wonder...those having trouble playing stuff back weren't running it from the memory card were they?
#20
with it being store sold as an end of line product, and the classic ".97" pricing surely you would be able to haggle the extra 10% off that currys/dixons/pcworld do (or used to do) I managed to get 20 quid off my TV a few months back for it being end of line might help some people
1 Like #21
moob
Cheers. How large a file would they be for say a 10 min clip at full resolution?


At full quality, you'd be looking about 1 Gb. IIRC the highest bitrate is 17mbps, so

17(bitrate)x60(seconds)x10(minutes) = 10200megabits - divide by 8 for megabytes - 1275MB.

So you'd probably get about an hour of footage on an 8GB SD card
#22
imdurc
For those that have one of these cameras and edit on a pc, what kind of power do you NEED? We've been editing with 2 Sony HC7 (1440x1080) feeds in Vegas 8 Pro for the last year without any issues on a 2.16gHz laptop and 2GB ram. Will this be enough? Or does the extra resolution require such a jump in computing power? I wonder...those having trouble playing stuff back weren't running it from the memory card were they?


Well, i cant say what its like on a PC slower than mine, but my specs are

Q6600 (default speed - 2.4Ghz)
8GB RAM
ATI HD3870 512MB
Vista 64Bit (required to see/use the top 4.5GB)

I use Corel Video Studio 12 pro (which supports HD), and I'd say that its satisfactory. Exporting seems to be troubling the 1 core only which is disappointing, but the quality is very good. I've edited some massive files and managed to get up to 4GB mem usage for that process alone.

I've also tried Adobe Premiere, which I beleive can only use a max of 4GB of RAM(?) and the output speed and quality seemed better (seem optimized for multicore) but was a RAM eater - even with NO clips open!

For the actual editing RAM seems more important, but for transcoding, a fast CPU will make it go quicker. Of course, a slower CPU might just make it take an hour instead of 45 minutes to encode a clip, so it depends on how much of a hurry you're in.........
#23
SpoonyBoy
Me too, great piece of kit. The only problem I have now is I need to upgrade my laptop so that I can play the videos!! They appear all glitchy & jerky using VLC media player.


VLC is CPU bound for playing such high res clips. Try using a player that uses GPU acceleration - for example PowerDVD (the HD ones obviously).
#24
Bought one of these a few weeks ago - - AVOID - the quality indoors is far worse than my standard (non HD) camcorder.
#25
katya1971
for the avchd footage you need to use 8cm dvd -r disks though i think as i havent managed to put any footage on a standard -rw dvd yet (unless im doing something wrong) its a nice light camera, though the editing software bundled is carp, i have just got sony vegas 8 pro and currently learning how to edit properly. if anyone has any tips would be nice to here about them.


Finalise
#26
silverc
Bought one of these a few weeks ago - - AVOID - the quality indoors is far worse than my standard (non HD) camcorder.


I can only assume that you are on Auto mode? If so then try playing with the manual controls instead. The "low light " quality is nowhere near as good as in nice lighting conditions, but still looked better than a lot of others I saw - its just a little grainier I found.....
1 Like #27
thedo
At full quality, you'd be looking about 1 Gb. IIRC the highest bitrate is 17mbps, so

17(bitrate)x60(seconds)x10(minutes) = 10200megabits - divide by 8 for megabytes - 1275MB.

So you'd probably get about an hour of footage on an 8GB SD card


Thank you, you've provided some very useful answers to a number of other questions I would have asked below also.

I will provide rep when it will let me.:thumbsup:
#28
katya1971
for the avchd footage you need to use 8cm dvd -r disks though i think as i havent managed to put any footage on a standard -rw dvd yet (unless im doing something wrong) its a nice light camera, though the editing software bundled is carp, i have just got sony vegas 8 pro and currently learning how to edit properly. if anyone has any tips would be nice to here about them.


I'm pretty sure you could run them through a USB HDD as well, no?
#29
moob
I'm pretty sure you could run them through a USB HDD as well, no?


I'd assume so - You can definitely play off an SD card or USB stick, so I'd assume, so long as your HDD is compatible you should have no issues. You can also plug directly into a TV fromt he camcorder too, but I havent tried that as its mini hdmi on the camcorder end......
#30
imdurc
For those that have one of these cameras and edit on a pc, what kind of power do you NEED? We've been editing with 2 Sony HC7 (1440x1080) feeds in Vegas 8 Pro for the last year without any issues on a 2.16gHz laptop and 2GB ram. Will this be enough? Or does the extra resolution require such a jump in computing power? I wonder...those having trouble playing stuff back weren't running it from the memory card were they?

The Sony HC7 uses MPEG2 whereas the Panasonic SD9 uses AVCHD which is a variant of H.264 so is significantly more demanding in terms of CPU performance even though the maximum bit rate is only 17 versus 25 Mbps.
AVHCD ideally calls out for a dual or quad core Core 2 Duo/Quad.

Review here - http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Panasonic-HDC-SD9-Camcorder-Review-34650.htm
#31
thedo
I'd assume so - You can definitely play off an SD card or USB stick, so I'd assume, so long as your HDD is compatible you should have no issues. You can also plug directly into a TV fromt he camcorder too, but I havent tried that as its mini hdmi on the camcorder end......


Thanks again.

I've currently got a Panasonic SDR-S7 and find the quality ok, but would guess this is streets ahead.

Don't really wanna have to upgrade my pc, so I guess I could get away with not editing stuff.:thumbsup:

(Finally managed to rep you)
#32
(Finally managed to rep you)

Thankyou kind sir.

Don't really wanna have to upgrade my pc, so I guess I could get away with not editing stuff


Add in the cost of editing software too (if you DO upgrade) - VideoStudio is one of the cheaper options - about 60-80 quid last time I checked. its pretty basic, but outputs some decent results - the "SmartRender" function works pretty well too - it basically determines if a section of video actually needs encoding or if it can copy the raw stream. Cuts down on encoding time, and increases quality (as your not re-encoding it), so if your CPU bound then its a good option.

What sort of PC are you using? So long as its Dual Core and a couple of Gig of RAM you'll probably be OK with editing, so long as you dont mind waiting for encoding times.
#33
Agharta
The Sony HC7 uses MPEG2 whereas the Panasonic SD9 uses AVCHD which is a variant of H.264 so is significantly more demanding in terms of CPU performance even though the maximum bit rate is only 17 versus 25 Mbps.
AVHCD ideally calls out for a dual or quad core Core 2 Duo/Quad.

Review here - http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Panasonic-HDC-SD9-Camcorder-Review-34650.htm


i have a brand new Dell laptop - Core 2 Duo 2ghz with 3GB ram and the video glitches all over the show.....think you realistically need a quad core desktop or a top of the range laptop to play/edit without glitches
#34
thedo


What sort of PC are you using? So long as its Dual Core and a couple of Gig of RAM you'll probably be OK with editing, so long as you dont mind waiting for encoding times.


It's a Dell:oops: with a 1.8 Core2Duo and 2Gb RAM - probably just on the edge!
#35
bhangra
i have a brand new Dell laptop - Core 2 Duo 2ghz with 3GB ram and the video glitches all over the show.....think you realistically need a quad core desktop or a top of the range laptop to play/edit without glitches


TBH For playback CPU is generally less important, as these days GPUs do a lot of the decoding (except in VLC which is software only, so is highly CPU dependant, but for playing AVCHD it seems to only be single core, so adding more cores probably wont help much). What video player are you using? And whats the GPU in your laptop - perhaps it doesnt do any decoding if its an intel GPU? For encoding, usually thats ALL CPU (unless you have VERY specific software - ie the CUDA based Video encoder), and is usually very multicore-friendly, so the more you can throw at it the better.........

It's a Dell with a 1.8 Core2Duo and 2Gb RAM - probably just on the edge!


Yeah, Its a tricky one. If you have already have software that can handle HD import/export I could record a couple of short scenes (say 10-30 seconds each) this weekend, upload them and you could try editing them into something interesting and see how well your PC copes?
#36
thedo


Yeah, Its a tricky one. If you have already have software that can handle HD import/export I could record a couple of short scenes (say 10-30 seconds each) this weekend, upload them and you could try editing them into something interesting and see how well your PC copes?


Appreciate the offer mate, but it would probably only be wasted time on your part - as I'm probably gonna hold off on this for a few weeks at least - there are a few new models coming out from Canon etc - so might wait it out to see if older models come down in price.

Was considering the Canon HF100.
#37
moob
Appreciate the offer mate, but it would probably only be wasted time on your part - as I'm probably gonna hold off on this for a few weeks at least - there are a few new models coming out from Canon etc - so might wait it out to see if older models come down in price.

Was considering the Canon HF100.


Yeah, most things I saw seemed to bracket the HF100 with the SD9, with the Canon coming out on top for most things. The clincher for me was the price difference tho - I couldnt justify another £200 for a similar class camera.
#38
I think for me, and what annoys me with my current Panasonic, is that it is awful in low light levels. I need something that's decent in low light, as I want to use it for family memories of my baby boy. The Canon seems to be streets ahead in that respect - but the price tag is rather off putting.

I know sometimes Canon can be unlikely to reduce old stock prices, but I will hold out until their new models come out next month and see what happens.

Once again, thanks for all your input.
#39
Bought one of these camcorders from QVC last month for £20 less. It has 4 recording modes. At it's highest 1920x 1080p picture quality expect 30 minutes recording on a 4GB card. At it's lowest 1440x 1080 picture quality setting you can expect 1.5 hours.
#40
Got mine 2 weeks ago £280.00 from QVC home shopping channel. Did alot of research and found this is the best for the price. May i recommend a 16gb sdhc card but at least a CLASS 6 type, trust me me you will need it. i got one for around £20.00 from mymemory.com

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