Panasonic Lumix DMC - LS85 EB 8.1 Megapixel Digital Camera (Silver) only £59.99 at Play.com - HotUKDeals
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Panasonic Lumix DMC - LS85 EB 8.1 Megapixel Digital Camera (Silver) only £59.99 at Play.com

£59.99 @ Play.Com
Seems like a good price... Just press the iA button, aim and shoot. The camera does all the rest, automatically adjusting to the shooting conditions and helping to correct blurring, focus, and brig… Read More
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7y, 10m agoFound 7 years, 10 months ago
Seems like a good price...

Just press the iA button, aim and shoot. The camera does all the rest, automatically adjusting to the shooting conditions and helping to correct blurring, focus, and brightness problems. iA Mode includes MEGA O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilizer) to compensate for hand-shake, Intelligent ISO Control to detect subject movement, Face Detection AF/AE to focus on faces in the frame, and Intelligent Scene Selector to select the optimal scene mode automatically for you.

Key Features
- Camera Effective Pixels: 8.1 Megapixels
- LCD Monitor: 2.5" TFT Screen
- 4x Optical Zoom
- 4x Digital Zoom
- Motion Picture Recording
- Recording Media: Built-in Memory, SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card, MultiMediaCard (Still image only)

Here's a review:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=116232&pn=1
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#1
Excellent price! I can't find this delivered for less than £80 elsewhere. Next cheapest seems to be Argos instore for £77.89

I've been looking for a digital camera for under £60 for someone in my family and this is the best I've seen so far.

This model is quite new and the reviews have generally been complimentary about picture quality and features.

The only significant negatives are:
- larger than most compacts (but good for someone with big hands)
- uses AA batteries (but you don't need to carry a camera charger when travelling)
- looks and feels cheapish/old-fashioned (less desirable to thieves)
- photos are a bit on the soft side

Unless you're after a slimline, compact camera or you must have something that looks stylish, I don't think you could do much better than this for £60.

HOT!
#2
dont forget 5% off with varsity card and quidco
#3
Very tempted!!!!!!
#4
Anyone who has ever owned a digital camera which takes AAs knows how much misery they will bring to your photo taking. Spend an extra few quid on one with a Li Ion battery.
#5
Anyone who has ever owned a digital camera which takes AAs knows how much simplicity and convenience they will bring to your photo taking. Just spend an extra few quid on a set of NiMH rechargeables and a charger (if you don't already have these) and you have all the power you need for endless shooting. Far superior to expensive proprietary batteries.

Well, that's my experience.
#6
Utter nonsense, AAs are available everywhere while you are crying that your Li ion is flat :thumbsup:

My NiMH have never let me down yet anyway.

I think they quote about 280 shots from 2 AA s from this camera, that'll do for me
#7
Yup, AAs are my preferred camera power source.
#8
Regardless of your views on AAs (I happen to prefer dedicated Li-ion but understand both sides of the argument) the main point on a deals site is that AA powered cameras should be MUCH cheaper as the manufacturer doesn't supply battery or charger.

I rate Panasonic highly and I've no reason to think that this won't be a good camera, but with full spec Li-ion ones starting around the £80 mark I feel this one isn't a particularly good deal. Under £50 it would start to look more attractive.

Not voting either way, just offering some food for thought I hope.
#9
hi. sorry but what is the difference between li-ion and NiMH??

i just use energizer rechargables for my camera. u can charge them up to 1000 times which is not bad. and you can get the chargers with them too :D
#10
Besford

I rate Panasonic highly and I've no reason to think that this won't be a good camera, but with full spec Li-ion ones starting around the £80 mark I feel this one isn't a particularly good deal. Under £50 it would start to look more attractive.


What nonsense!

It sounds to me that you are under the impression that because a camera runs off a Li-ion battery, it must be technically superior. When you talk about "full-spec" Li-ion cameras for £80, you seem to be implying that they have a "fuller" spec than this Panasonic.

You yourself posted a Panasonic FS4 (Li-ion, obviously) on these forums for £89.97 last week claiming it to be "particularly good value". Compare the specs and you will see that this one has better features, battery aside, and is £30 cheaper. For example, the LS85 benefits from optical image stabilisation, which you won't find on plenty of Li-ion cameras (including the one you posted).

As far as AA battery-powered cameras go, this Panasonic is at the top end of the scale and is fantastic value at this price.
#11
rizzy898
hi. sorry but what is the difference between li-ion and NiMH??

i just use energizer rechargables for my camera. u can charge them up to 1000 times which is not bad. and you can get the chargers with them too :D


In a nutshell:

NICKEL METAL HYDRIDE (NiMH)
PROS: Inexpensive
CONS: Heavy; Lower longevity; Memory effect (i.e. need to be discharged before recharging or battery life will suffer).

LITHIUM- ION (Li-ion)
PROS: No discharge required; Powerful; Light; No memory effect; Environmentally friendly
CONS: Expense
#12
ffa1
Yup, AAs are my preferred camera power source.


You must be working for Play.com!

How miserable! In this day and age, to buy a camera with AA batteries?!:w00t::p;-)
#13
I don't know much about the different battery options; can anyone kindly inform me as to which kind of batteries hold their charge longer?
1 Like #14
I have used both and while the Li-ion one tends to last a bit longer and is a bit lighter, the fact that you can pop a couple of spare AA's in your pocket negates that benefit all together.

In fact in the mountains (where I am a lot) the security of some spare full charged AA's outweighs the risk of running out with no re-charge option (excluding power monkey) of the Li-ion

BTW - NiMH batteries don't have a memory and don't need to be discharged - the days of discharging rechargeable batteries has long since gone.

My advice for digital cameras is to buy a high power battery (mAH) such as 2500 mAH
#15
richandrene
I have used both and while the Li-ion one tends to last a bit longer and is a bit lighter, the fact that you can pop a couple of spare AA's in your pocket negates that benefit all together.

In fact in the mountains (where I am a lot) the security of some spare full charged AA's outweighs the risk of running out with no re-charge option (excluding power monkey) of the Li-ion

BTW - NiMH batteries don't have a memory and don't need to be discharged - the days of discharging rechargeable batteries has long since gone.

My advice for digital cameras is to buy a high power battery (mAH) such as 2500 mAH


I've recently bought some Sanyo Eneloops (one brand amongst many). They are rechargeable NiMH but have a long shelf life with a low rate of self discharge. Even if left in your camera for 6 months they're suggested to retain ~80% of their charge.
#16
All the reviews I have seen are for the DMC - LS85 not the DMC - LS85 EB.

In fact the DMC - LS85 EB is not even on the Panasonic Website.

Play.com sell both the DMC - LS85 EB & DMC - LS85 (Only difference being the colour) & £30

So is there a difference between the two (Apart from colour) I cant compare the two as the DMC - LS85 EB is not mentioned only the DMC - LS85.

Thanks

Mike
1 Like #17
kupon
What nonsense!

It sounds to me that you are under the impression that because a camera runs off a Li-ion battery, it must be technically superior. When you talk about "full-spec" Li-ion cameras for £80, you seem to be implying that they have a "fuller" spec than this Panasonic.

You yourself posted a Panasonic FS4 (Li-ion, obviously) on these forums for £89.97 last week claiming it to be "particularly good value". Compare the specs and you will see that this one has better features, battery aside, and is £30 cheaper. For example, the LS85 benefits from optical image stabilisation, which you won't find on plenty of Li-ion cameras (including the one you posted).

As far as AA battery-powered cameras go, this Panasonic is at the top end of the scale and is fantastic value at this price.


Surely what Besford is suggesting is that with this camera the manufacturer only has to supply a camera with a hole in it where the batteries go. Whereas if you were to buy a camera that was powered by a li-ion battery, it would come with the battery and the charger included in the package. If you buy this camera you will have to buy yourself a charger and some decent quality re-chargeables. Personally I don't like the AA system and would prefer Li-ion.
#18
I love the convenience of AAs myself. Carrying a charger (and the plug adapter if I'm abroad) plus a spare battery (for when I go flat & am not near a power source) is not convenient.
You can *always* find AAs somewhere.
#19
Often the most dissapointing thing about digital cameras is the time it takes for it to take a picture:

From review: http://www.cameras.co.uk/reviews/panasonic-dmc-ls85.cfm

Shutter lag times were a little slower than I had hoped for at 0.52 seconds for a single shot and 10.4 seconds for five photos. With flash turned on the camera is slow. The times were 1.83 seconds for a single photo and 25.1 seconds for five.

To turn the camera on and take a photo was timed at 3.38 seconds. This places the Lumix DMC LS85 somewhere in mid division for an entry level digital camera.

Still what do you want for £60!
#20
deal-hunter
Surely what Besford is suggesting is that with this camera the manufacturer only has to supply a camera with a hole in it where the batteries go. Whereas if you were to buy a camera that was powered by a li-ion battery, it would come with the battery and the charger included in the package. If you buy this camera you will have to buy yourself a charger and some decent quality re-chargeables. Personally I don't like the AA system and would prefer Li-ion.

Precisely and thank you for interpreting for Kupon (though I think it was pretty clear that I was saying whilst accepting that some may prefer AA):

"Regardless of your views on AAs (I happen to prefer dedicated Li-ion but understand both sides of the argument) the main point on a deals site is that AA powered cameras should be MUCH cheaper as the manufacturer doesn't supply battery or charger."

I will add that AA powered cameras are inherently more bulky too - but again that may not be an issue for everyone.
#21
kupon
What nonsense!

It sounds to me that you are under the impression that because a camera runs off a Li-ion battery, it must be technically superior. When you talk about "full-spec" Li-ion cameras for £80, you seem to be implying that they have a "fuller" spec than this Panasonic.

You yourself posted a Panasonic FS4 (Li-ion, obviously) on these forums for £89.97 last week claiming it to be "particularly good value". Compare the specs and you will see that this one has better features, battery aside, and is £30 cheaper. For example, the LS85 benefits from optical image stabilisation, which you won't find on plenty of Li-ion cameras (including the one you posted).

As far as AA battery-powered cameras go, this Panasonic is at the top end of the scale and is fantastic value at this price.

Steady on! No need to be so agressive when it is a perfectly valid point to share.

I gave a balanced view, accepting that some people prefer AAs, but the primary point on a deals site is a financial one: AA powered cameras don't come with batteries or charger and therefore should be much cheaper (on a like for like spec basis) than their dedicated battery counterparts.

Your point re technical superiority is your own interpretation, not mine, though I would point out that AA power is pretty much limited to the bottom of manufacturers' ranges (that's not to imply they are all bad cameras) whereas above these Li-ion is now pretty much the expected standard. I guess you could argue that if you prefer AA then you have a problem if you go for the higher spec cameras as they simply aren't available with AAs.

You could draw up a list of the pros and cons of each battery type since all have merits, but for me the Li-ion type win out by a significant margin. I don't take a charger with me, I buy a few spare compatibles (remarkably cheap on line) and these too are smaller in the pocket than AAs whilst lasting longer.

By the way, my FS4 posting has definately been trumped by Tescos Fuji offering and I've said so on the thread (assuming you can track one down of course):

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/445155/fujifilm-f40fd-digital-camera-54-97

This site should be about sharing best deals and offering advice others may not have considered. A competitive approach is unnecessary and poo pooing others' views serves no good purpose (though I love a bit of sport on here sometimes when people get really wound up! Chicken, bicycles and green issues generally can be real fun.).
#22
What a dick :-D


I have a bicycle, chickens, and green issues:p
#23
millemg
What a dick :-D


I have a bicycle, chickens, and green issues:p

Thanks for sharing your third post ever with us all - maybe they'll get better with practice?
Try posting a deal too.
#24
Why flagged has expired? - still available
#25
Unexpired as above
#26
richandrene
I have used both and while the Li-ion one tends to last a bit longer and is a bit lighter, the fact that you can pop a couple of spare AA's in your pocket negates that benefit all together.

In fact in the mountains (where I am a lot) the security of some spare full charged AA's outweighs the risk of running out with no re-charge option (excluding power monkey) of the Li-ion

BTW - NiMH batteries don't have a memory and don't need to be discharged - the days of discharging rechargeable batteries has long since gone.

My advice for digital cameras is to buy a high power battery (mAH) such as 2500 mAH


simonspeakeasy
I love the convenience of AAs myself. Carrying a charger (and the plug adapter if I'm abroad) plus a spare battery (for when I go flat & am not near a power source) is not convenient.
You can *always* find AAs somewhere.


:thumbsup: Couldnt agree more. Hot deal BTW :-D

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