Panasonic NA-168VX2WG Washing Machine, White + 6 YEAR parts & labour warranty! £439 @ John Lewis - HotUKDeals
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Back in stock - posted last week back available again. 6 YEAR WARRANTY AVAILABLE TO APPLY FOR UNTIL END OF MONTH - SEND THE PDF OFF TO APPLY

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Rated an outstanding A+++ for energy, the NA-168VX2WG is a 1600rpm spin washing machine with a 8kg load and is Energy Saving Trust approved. In a white finish with a silver porthole, thanks to a clever tilting drum it’s measly with water, using only 50 litres on a full cotton cycle.
Clever Inverter technology not only provides the optimal cleaning performance, but ensures the most efficient energy consumption. The 3D sensor wash constantly detects the movement of your laundry in the machine and makes adjustments to enable it to tumble from the optimal position for great wash results.

A variety of short programmes and special quick programs are included to save you time - the ‘Rapid 15’ programme is ideal for refreshing 2kg of laundry in just 15 minutes. Or why not take advantage of the ‘Quick 60’ programme, which washes a 3.5kg load in 60 minutes? There’s even a 15°C wash cycle too. The LED control panel offers 4 spin speed and 5 temperature options.

Finally, the brushless motor guarantees extremely quiet operation, while the Aqua Protection System ensures that when water is filling the drum and draining out, any leakage is detected, and the water supply to the machine is shut off automatically.
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#1
6 year parts & labour warranty works out at just over £73/year or £6/month - seems like a good deal unless anyone can find a longer warranty or lower price. However long it continues to work beyond the warranty period is a bonus.
#2
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.
Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!
#3
Can you elaborate on totally disappointed - disappointed with a 6 year warranty? I presume the performance was not as expected but in what way? 6 year warranty indicates some faith in their own product.
#4
Well I bought one and have had it for 2 months, and its amazing, great quality and 4 year warranty, bit gutted now, but 4 years is good enough.

Its heavy and well built. Happy with my purchase
#5
Top price for a top spec washing machine and with a 6 year warranty you can't go wrong..Hot from me.
#6
Rimi
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.
Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!


How long is the warranty on a Bosch ??
1 Like #7
2 years (but I think you know this)
1 Like #8
Rimi
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.
Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!


Would you care to elaborate? I've just bought two of these (one for me, one for my parents) and it's astonishingly good in comparison to the 'old' Hotpoint WD860 it replaced. (Quicker, much quieter and far more efficient).

Why were they "totaly disapointed"(sic)?
3 Likes #9
Shame that Rimi can't explain - a friend's Bentley broke down once - that's it, they are all rubbish apparently!
#10
inicholson
6 year parts & labour warranty works out at just over £73/year or £6/month - seems like a good deal unless anyone can find a longer warranty or lower price. However long it continues to work beyond the warranty period is a bonus.


And this is the crux of the matter when you break it down. Go buy your much smaller, much less well engineered BTL special from who knows which Soviet Bloc country at around £150/200 and you get basic functionality, no real features and shoddy materials. If that lasts 3 years then you might just be ahead financially but have lived with a smaller inferior product. Most likely it will already be on the skip.

I needed a slightly larger model and a washer dryer or one of these would have been parked in my kitchen some months ago.
#11
6 year warranty indicates some faith in their own product.


Not necessarily, it's often just an indicator of a high enough profit margin that they can cover the cost or repairs. However, washing machines break; it's a fact of life. Some (Hotpoint, Hoover & candy in the limited experience of myself, friends and family break a lot and usually just after the warranty ran out). As a result when the last one dies my wife decided to buy a cheap one and an extended warranty so it didn't matter. Luckily I found a Siemens with 10 year warranty - it cost more but the cost per year is less and in the meantime we have a decent machine.
#12
You foolish british people: Bosch NAME is WARRANTY! My parents have 11 years old Bosch washing mashine and never spent a penny on fixing it,as it has no problems whatsoever and used it two times a week at least. Warranty doesn tells you a story,it just the way to take extra money from your pocket.

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Rimi
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!
How long is the warranty on a Bosch ??
5 Likes #13
Rimi
You foolish british people: Bosch NAME is WARRANTY! My parents have 11 years old Bosch washing mashine and never spent a penny on fixing it,as it has no problems whatsoever and used it two times a week at least. Warranty doesn tells you a story,it just the way to take extra money from your pocket.

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Rimi
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!
How long is the warranty on a Bosch ??


The only " foolish " people are those that think washing machines are made to the same quality as they were 11 years ago, how naive can some people be?
2 Likes #14
Rimi, you are obviously reading and posting - what was the issue your friends parents had and was it this model?

This is a post for the panasonic and you made negative remarks but seem to want to talk about bosch that was made 11 years ago.
#15
what washing powder would you use at 15 degrees? I used to wash on cold (I am not sure they even had a hot wash??) in australia but the detergent was really harsh/good stuff to allow you to do this.

Edited By: leedale30 on Mar 12, 2011 12:59
#16
Just post my be careful post again as if this is the machine with 2 drums one is plastic one is metal and ours melted and welded together within months, total write off. Common issue with the model apparently. Not sure if this is the model but we got it from JL and it was a Panny so just a heads up to do some research
1 Like #17
Rimi
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!

cant comment on panny wm's as never used one but generally their stuff is well made, so maybe your friends parents were unlucky.

anyway id go for a miele like we have or if you cant afford that then bosch for a cheap wm

Edited By: royals on Mar 12, 2011 15:42
#18
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Rimi
You foolish british people: Bosch NAME is WARRANTY! My parents have 11 years old Bosch washing mashine and never spent a penny on fixing it,as it has no problems whatsoever and used it two times a week at least. Warranty doesn tells you a story,it just the way to take extra money from your pocket.
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Rimi
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!
How long is the warranty on a Bosch ??
The only " foolish " people are those that think washing machines are made to the same quality as they were 11 years ago, how naive can some people be?

totally agree, the only wm's that are made anywhere to the sameish standard are miele's.....most use alot of plastic parts now
#19
we have a panny WM - excellent machines. Think some people are on a wind up today.

Edited By: vale of clwyd on Mar 12, 2011 15:55
#20
To all those saying Bosch - Mine's just terminally broken (main drum bearing gone) after 3.5 years of light duty. It had also broken in two less terminal ways (and fixed) during the last year. Not at all happy, waiting for JL to take responsibility for such a disastrous premature failure. Blackrat62 is right - the Bosch name is no guarantee of quality any more. I understood Miele, Siemens and Bosch came out of the same factory - they are certainly very similar. Do they use different quality parts?
#21
Just bought, thanks to the OP :)
#22
Rimi
You foolish british people: Bosch NAME is WARRANTY! My parents have 11 years old Bosch washing mashine and never spent a penny on fixing it,as it has no problems whatsoever and used it two times a week at least. Warranty doesn tells you a story,it just the way to take extra money from your pocket.


So how much out of pocket are you with a FREE 6yr warranty? Do the maths...
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Rimi
Well overpriced and rubbish too.My friends parents has it and totaly disapointed. Get Bosch for £200 cheaper and it will be a lot better than this.
Panasonic is the best for TVs but not for washing machines!


We're on our second Bosch and both have had numerous faults. The current one is 1600 spin and has always sounded like it's going to bring the house down on full spin - so we're more than ready for a change.

Anyway, I just went for this deal a couple of days ago but had to get JL to price match Comet to get this price...which is possibly why the price came down from £499.
#24
Managed to get last one for now.. thanks OP!
#25
BOSCH are not half the company they use to be so all the Bosch fanboys can pipe down!
If you want a reliable WM then obviously buy one that is direct drive and brushless, simples :-)
As for OP, stonking deal with the 6 year warranty, hot hot hot
#26
Leftfield_2k2
If you want a reliable WM then obviously buy one that is direct drive and brushless, simples :-)
As for OP, stonking deal with the 6 year warranty, hot hot hot


Agree with the direct drive model. We have an LG Direct Drive machine (7.5kg) we bought 6 years ago and used 4 times a week and never missed a beat. Have to clear out the scale/scum filter every so often but apart from that its been faultless. Super quiet too.

I'd trust the Panny brand on this one though so hot from me.

Edited By: Bad Actor on Mar 12, 2011 21:04
#27
Bad Actor
Leftfield_2k2
If you want a reliable WM then obviously buy one that is direct drive and brushless, simples :-)
As for OP, stonking deal with the 6 year warranty, hot hot hot


Agree with the direct drive model. We have an LG Direct Drive machine (7.5kg) we bought 6 years ago and used 4 times a week and never missed a beat. Have to clear out the scale/scum filter every so often but apart from that its been faultless. Super quiet too.

I'd trust the Panny brand on this one though so hot from me.

Bad Actor
Leftfield_2k2
If you want a reliable WM then obviously buy one that is direct drive and brushless, simples :-)
As for OP, stonking deal with the 6 year warranty, hot hot hot


Agree with the direct drive model. We have an LG Direct Drive machine (7.5kg) we bought 6 years ago and used 4 times a week and never missed a beat. Have to clear out the scale/scum filter every so often but apart from that its been faultless. Super quiet too.

I'd trust the Panny brand on this one though so hot from me.

Bad Actor
Leftfield_2k2
If you want a reliable WM then obviously buy one that is direct drive and brushless, simples :-)
As for OP, stonking deal with the 6 year warranty, hot hot hot


Agree with the direct drive model. We have an LG Direct Drive machine (7.5kg) we bought 6 years ago and used 4 times a week and never missed a beat. Have to clear out the scale/scum filter every so often but apart from that its been faultless. Super quiet too.

I'd trust the Panny brand on this one though so hot from me.


Direct drive is just a marketing gimmick - if it was that good another manufacturer would have copied it by now. Direct drive only means there is no belt between the motor and the drum - and how many times have you replaced your drive belt? I am 47 and never have on any machine

On the comment about Miele / Bosch and Siemens being from the same factory this is incorrect. Miele are a stand alone company - Siemens and Bosch are from the same company - Bosch being entry and Siemens higher end with longer warranty.

Which brings me to my next point. 6 year warranty from Panasonic. NOT ! Panasonic do not have any service engineers so when you machine does break down, which it will, you will be at the mercy of a small time back street outfit being paid by Pana to repair it as cheap as possible.

Siemens and Miele both have their own service engineers and carry out all their own repairs. Dont know about others but the guarantee means more to me when its the manufacturer that comes out when you need them.
#28
checkley73
Direct drive is just a marketing gimmick - if it was that good another manufacturer would have copied it by now. Direct drive only means there is no belt between the motor and the drum - and how many times have you replaced your drive belt? I am 47 and never have on any machine

On the comment about Miele / Bosch and Siemens being from the same factory this is incorrect. Miele are a stand alone company - Siemens and Bosch are from the same company - Bosch being entry and Siemens higher end with longer warranty.

Which brings me to my next point. 6 year warranty from Panasonic. NOT ! Panasonic do not have any service engineers so when you machine does break down, which it will, you will be at the mercy of a small time back street outfit being paid by Pana to repair it as cheap as possible.

Siemens and Miele both have their own service engineers and carry out all their own repairs. Dont know about others but the guarantee means more to me when its the manufacturer that comes out when you need them.


Not too sure exactly who repairs Panasonic's washing machines but I would imagine that it's authorised repairers and that's pretty much the case for support on all of the products that they make.

A lot of people think that Panasonic have just got started manufacturing white goods. Panasonic may be a new comer in this country washing machine wise but they have been making washing machines since at least the 1950's and have been a big player in many other territories for decades.
#29
checkley73

I went to quote your reply/post but it was so damn messy I gave up.:D
I'd have to disagree on Direct Drive being a marketing gimmick though. Ours is a lot quieter than any belt driven machine we've had before and doesn't creep across the kitchen floor on full spin.

Edited By: Bad Actor on Mar 12, 2011 22:35
1 Like #30
And I'm 46 and never had to change the belt on any of my previous cars.
#31
I had had this since Aug 2010 and its a nice and quiet machine. Uses less water as well. We use it once a week and with 8Kg load, it seems enough. We also brought it from JL. It was 420 at that time. Maybe the price rise is due to the VAT. The 6 year warranty is to draw attention as Panasonic is a new entry to the Washing Machine market. I had it installed by the Comet folks and they have good job as well. I would take warranty and if it comes with 6 years, its great. I would not take another model without any warranty and the warranty for washing machines are quite costly. If you don't like this model, please recommend the model number that others can buy along with the warranty so that it can be compared on the same level.
#32
Once a week, do you live on your own?
Ours is on once a day lol.......

anupampatra
I had had this since Aug 2010 and its a nice and quiet machine. Uses less water as well. We use it once a week and with 8Kg load, it seems enough. We also brought it from JL. It was 420 at that time. Maybe the price rise is due to the VAT. The 6 year warranty is to draw attention as Panasonic is a new entry to the Washing Machine market. I had it installed by the Comet folks and they have good job as well. I would take warranty and if it comes with 6 years, its great. I would not take another model without any warranty and the warranty for washing machines are quite costly. If you don't like this model, please recommend the model number that others can buy along with the warranty so that it can be compared on the same level.
#33
Rimi & anupampatra.

Clicky
#34
Decided to get one of these for that reason...ours is on loads now we have 2 young girls.. think my 11yr old Zanussi won't last too much longer? Although it's been trouble free for 11yrs!
#35
Looks like you have need and read the book and recommending to others....

Bad Actor
Rimi & anupampatra.

Clicky
#36
out of stock again.
#37
anupampatra
Looks like you have need and read the book and recommending to others....

Bad Actor
Rimi & anupampatra.

Clicky

Keep digging.
#38
A lot of people make a big deal about how Miele test their machines for a 20 year lifespan. Well Panasonic do "simulated 23 year lifespan" testing on their machines (read more here) which is probably why, like Miele, they are prepared to give away very long free warranties on some models.
#39
The capacity of the washing machine has increased so much these days and a lot can fit into the 8kg plus models thereby reducing the amount of frequent washing that is required.
#40
Bad Actor
checkley73

I went to quote your reply/post but it was so damn messy I gave up.:D
I'd have to disagree on Direct Drive being a marketing gimmick though. Ours is a lot quieter than any belt driven machine we've had before and doesn't creep across the kitchen floor on full spin.


yeah I made a mess of the reply eh !!

your machine is quiet, but its due to it having a brushless motor rather than the direct drive - not many machines use them - Pana do, some Siemens and Miele and LG are the ones I know of

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