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Panasonic Viera TX-P50C2B Plasma HD Ready Digital Television, 50 Inchfor £549

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Smart design and an excellent high definition picture combine on the Panasonic Viera TX-P50C2B plasma TV.
You’ll enjoy enhanced colour reproduction thanks to x.v.Colour technology. And thanks to 100Hz Double Speed motion technology images are smooth and flicker free. There’s also a dedicated Game Mode which enables quicker image response when connected your game console.

You’ll also enjoy atmospheric sound from the integral V-Audio sound system and a wide selection of channels thanks to its integrated digital tuner. An SD memory card slot lets you run a photo slideshow for family and friends on the big screen.

This television is ‘high definition ready’ which means it has the ability to display high definition signals with the addition of a separate HD receiver. HD broadcasts are at a much higher resolution than regular analogue or digital broadcasts and have greatly enhanced picture quality. The level of detail is astonishing with clearer, sharper and more vibrant images.

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Key Features

Audio qualityDifferent manufacturers use different sound systems to improve your audio experience V-Audio Surround



AV inputsWhere on the TV your DVD Player or other equipment can be plugged in Rear



Brand Panasonic



Brightness Information not available



Digital tunerDigital tuners give a better quality picture and let you receive extra channels without an additional Freeview box. Freeview



Dimensions H77 x W122 x D9.5cm (not including stand)



DLNADigital Living Network Alliance compatible - lets you build a digital network around the home with other DLNA devices No



Frame rate 100Hz



Freesat built in No



Freeview HD built in No



Full HD 1080p No



Guarantee FREE 5 year guarantee




HD ReadyAbility to display high-definition pictures when connected to an HD compatible device Yes



LED backlighting No



Memory card slotGreater amount of slots means more variety of card formats can be used SD



Model name / number TX-P50C2B



S-Video socketSeparate Video- only handles the video aspect of the signal but will give a better picture by using two separate conductors for colour and detail information. 1



SCART socketsSocket for connecting audio-visual equipment together 2



Screen formatTraditional 4:3 is used on smaller TVs. Widescreen or 16:9 is a wider 'cinema-style' format Widescreen



Screen resolutionPicture quality defined by the number of individual dots (pixels) used to create an image. The higher the number of pixels, the higher the image quality 1024 x 768



Screen size 50"



Speaker output (RMS)Measured in WATTS. The higher the number, the louder the sound! 20W



Table Top Stand Included



USB portsUniversal Serial Bus- socket for transferring data between electronic devices No



Visible screen size (measured diagonally)Diagonal measurement across screen 127cm



Web enabledAccess the internet or selected websites through the TV No
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#1
seen this set up today,,,picture only hd ready,,,you could tell,,,
#2
i'm contemplating selling my Samsung 40" LCD (720p) for a bigger 50" Plasma.....

Use it for Sky, mostly standard definition and Xbox 360.

Good idea or bad?
#3
Bought this from John Lewis couple of months ago , have Virgin + box , I am very pleased with set up.
#4
I'd personally go for the LG 50" 1080p jobbie from Amazon - better blacks and higher res (if you need that). That said, this is a good set but for the same price i'd go with the LG.
#5
makershaker
i'm contemplating selling my Samsung 40" LCD (720p) for a bigger 50" Plasma.....
Use it for Sky, mostly standard definition and Xbox 360.
Good idea or bad?
Sky HD outputs in 720p.
Vast majority of xbox360 games are 720p.
Sky SD is 480p.
A 720p TV should be ideal for you - and this tv is a definite winner. It's not at the top end of Panasonic's range, but the bottom end of their range is way ahead of most companies' best efforts. Since Pioneer left the market (and lots of their best people moved over to Panasonic - their closest rivals) Panasonic are by far the top tv company.

Matt.Wild
I'd personally go for the LG 50" 1080p jobbie from Amazon - better blacks and higher res (if you need that). That said, this is a good set but for the same price i'd go with the LG.

An LG with better blacks than Panasonic? :lol: Not likely.
Higher res, as you say, which is good if you're watching Blu-rays - and is arguably a disadvantage over 720p for most other uses.
I can't properly compare to the LG you're referring to, though, as I haven't seen the offer to which you refer...
#6
Its the LG 50PK350. Its generally considered to have as good blacks as the G10/G20 series and doesn't have the rising blacks problem the G10 etc had.

And yes, the LG is considered a very good set. And this is coming from a Panasonic owner. I personally own one, from the last year so i'm not talking out of my harris.
#7
What about the frame rate saying 100hz, when i noticed most of em seem to say 600hz?
#8
makershaker
What about the frame rate saying 100hz, when i noticed most of em seem to say 600hz?


Sales gimic, its just subframes, the screen still runs at 100hz.
#9
The LG's have issues, just look on AVForums, IR being one everyone will notice, patchy colour, a line issue and best of all it's made by a company who's parent company made some of the most unreliable screens (LCD and Plasma) ever with PSU's that failed because they used crap caps and relays. I've seen this, the G10, the X20 and the S20 demo'd more times than I care to think about over the last month, this is a very reflective screen, no AR filter, very limited calibration etc. However it's a big Panasonic plasma with a decent warranty and low input lag. As for 'only' being HD I love how people buy into marketing, it's been proven that depending on viewing distance you can't tell the difference between a 720p screen and a 1080p screen.

That said my S20 arrived today :)
#10
All HD channels are broadcast in 1080i format, NOT at 720p as Late suggests.

:p
#11
1080i being interlaced is worse than 720p from what I have read since half the image is not on the screen at any one time leading to motion blur/tearing? Discuss :)
#12
What is a Blu-ray player 720p or 1080p
#13
Euromancer
1080i being interlaced is worse than 720p from what I have read since half the image is not on the screen at any one time leading to motion blur/tearing? Discuss :)


Correct, this is what I too have read
#14
saxo_appeal
What is a Blu-ray player 720p or 1080p


1080p
1 Like #15
I long for the day when 1080P and 720P discussions dont have to be in every single TV, DVD, Blu Ray, Monitor, Projector, Console etc thread!
720p is fine for the majority, most likely majority of the time the conent will be non HD, and the majority of HD content you will be watching is gonna be 720P or 1080i if your using sky, vigrin, freesat, freeview HD setups. Blu ray can be either, video games can be either. 1080p is a touch better but not gonna blow you away.

I would just buy the 42 inch 720pfrom £350+ (and for a little more 1080P plasmas that are floating about from £399) or the cheapest 32" 720P 1080P set for £200+. You will be happy with either unless you are an anorak that ends up worrying about the quality of the picture every time they turn it on.

Theres gonna be a new next gen resolution soon that everyone will be creaming there jeans about and 3D this and fibre optic that. Who knows, maybe projectors or screens made from film that can be rolled away are the next thing too. Live your life and buy one if you want one.
#16
So a 1080p is the better choice, films are much better in that format :)
#17
I bought one of these in December and am very happy with the picture quality and sound.
At this price the tv is well buying as I dont think anyone will be unhappy for the money they have paid.

Great for Sky hd and the xbox!
#18
Just to confirm BSkyB output is 1080i. I have a 46" tv which has 768 lines but displays 1080i. Picture is great from Sky and bluray from ps3-again at 1080i. 1080p from BSkyB at least 2 years away.
#19
Looking at the plasmas in currys yesterday, they seem a hell of lot duller than lcds, plus there was a lot of reflection on the screens from the bright lights in the shop. It put me off them a bit with being used to my nice bright lcd.

Im still in 2 minds incase i regret buying one!
#20
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
#21
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makershaker
i'm contemplating selling my Samsung 40" LCD (720p) for a bigger 50" Plasma.....Use it for Sky, mostly standard definition and Xbox 360.Good idea or bad?
Sky HD outputs in 720p.Vast majority of xbox360 games are 720p.Sky SD is 480p.A 720p TV should be ideal for you - and this tv is a definite winner. It's not at the top end of Panasonic's range, but the bottom end of their range is way ahead of most companies' best efforts. Since Pioneer left the market (and lots of their best people moved over to Panasonic - their closest rivals) Panasonic are by far the top tv company.
Matt.Wild
I'd personally go for the LG 50" 1080p jobbie from Amazon - better blacks and higher res (if you need that). That said, this is a good set but for the same price i'd go with the LG.
An LG with better blacks than Panasonic? :lol: Not likely.Higher res, as you say, which is good if you're watching Blu-rays - and is arguably a disadvantage over 720p for most other uses.I can't properly compare to the LG you're referring to, though, as I haven't seen the offer to which you refer...

Sky HD is mostly 1080i which would take advantage of a 1080p screen.
#22
Euromancer
1080i being interlaced is worse than 720p from what I have read since half the image is not on the screen at any one time leading to motion blur/tearing? Discuss :)

1080i is mostly better viewed on a 1080p screen as it has the sane resolution. I watch Virgin HD in 1080i and it is much better than 720p.
#23
pumpsmynads
Just to confirm BSkyB output is 1080i. I have a 46" tv which has 768 lines but displays 1080i. Picture is great from Sky and bluray from ps3-again at 1080i. 1080p from BSkyB at least 2 years away.

If you have a TV with 1366 x 768 resolution, then your TV will never display 1080i which is 1920 x 1080. It will downscale the 1080i and display it at 768p.
#24
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.

How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
#25
who cares!!!!!!!!

before HD broadcasts no one cared about pixels and resolution.

its a TV, buy it or dont.
it'll look great either way, its a Panasonic.
I have the LG 590 and its awesome on everything
#26
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.


How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.

You may well be correct but it says 1080i when I view info, all I can say is the image is very very good.
#27
Thermal Rider
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
You may well be correct but it says 1080i when I view info, all I can say is the image is very very good.

I am correct. All that is happening is the TV is showing it is receiving a 1080i signal, but it can't show that signal because it does not have enough pixels, so it downscales to the native resolution of your TV.
#28
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.

what are you saying? that a 1080p HD ready TV doesn't have enough resolution to display 1080i?!?!
#29
leeds85
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
what are you saying? that a 1080p HD ready TV doesn't have enough resolution to display 1080i?!?!

Who mentioned HD Ready 1080p? Not me or the poster I was replying to.
#30
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
what are you saying? that a 1080p HD ready TV doesn't have enough resolution to display 1080i?!?!
Who mentioned HD Ready 1080p? Not me or the poster I was replying to.

The poster didn't mention it was a 760p either, so why are saying that his TV doesn't enough resolution?
#31
leeds85
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
what are you saying? that a 1080p HD ready TV doesn't have enough resolution to display 1080i?!?!
Who mentioned HD Ready 1080p? Not me or the poster I was replying to.
The poster didn't mention it was a 760p either, so why are saying that his TV doesn't enough resolution?

The poster said HD Ready. HD Ready means it can not support 1080 resolution which is both 1080i and 1080p. HD Ready 1080p is totally different to HD Ready. If his TV is HD Ready, which he said it was, it does not have enough resolution to display 1080i.
#32
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
what are you saying? that a 1080p HD ready TV doesn't have enough resolution to display 1080i?!?!
Who mentioned HD Ready 1080p? Not me or the poster I was replying to.
The poster didn't mention it was a 760p either, so why are saying that his TV doesn't enough resolution?
The poster said HD Ready. HD Ready means it can not support 1080 resolution which is both 1080i and 1080p. HD Ready 1080p is totally different to HD Ready. If his TV is HD Ready, which he said it was, it does not have enough resolution to display 1080i.

yeah good point
hd ready = 760
hd ready 1080 = well we can work it out!



Edited By: leeds85 on Sep 25, 2010 12:40: correction
#33
leeds85
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
what are you saying? that a 1080p HD ready TV doesn't have enough resolution to display 1080i?!?!
Who mentioned HD Ready 1080p? Not me or the poster I was replying to.
The poster didn't mention it was a 760p either, so why are saying that his TV doesn't enough resolution?
The poster said HD Ready. HD Ready means it can not support 1080 resolution which is both 1080i and 1080p. HD Ready 1080p is totally different to HD Ready. If his TV is HD Ready, which he said it was, it does not have enough resolution to display 1080i.
why do all these TV's say 1080p HD ready in middle of the screens when being advertised?look at the writting on the screensHD ready means there's no HD tuner built into the TV, therefore its only Ready to display HD.

Sigh, listen to me. HD Ready and HD Ready 1080p (or 1080p HD Ready) are two different things. HD Ready just does not mean there is no HD Tuner, there are various spefications that they have to adhere to to be able to use HD Ready.

Anything labeled as just HD Ready DOES NOT have a resolution of 1920 x 1080. As the OP describes the TV he has as HD Ready, thus we come to the conclusion that it does not have a resolution of 1920 x 1080 thus not being able to display 1080i. HD Ready TV's can never display 1080i, they can only input a 1080i signal.
#34
i did already edit, looks like while you was posting :-)
#35
leeds85
i did already edit, looks like while you was posting :-)

Sorry, it's just amazing of how many people think their HD Ready TV can do 1080i. It doesn't help with all the confussion over the terms, but it is the way people argue as if they know what they are talking about.
#36
shawty1984
leeds85
i did already edit, looks like while you was posting :-)
Sorry, it's just amazing of how many people think their HD Ready TV can do 1080i. It doesn't help with all the confussion over the terms, but it is the way people argue as if they know what they are talking about.

yeah i know, its what does my head in too. tbh the industry hasn't helped, now that tv's with hd tuners built-in are on the market they want to start calling these 'full hd' tv's when we're all used to calling any 1080p a full hd tv.
#37
freeview hd and sky hd are 1920x1080 but its only at 50 fields per second so a flat screen tv has to deinterlace the 50 fields into 25 frames per second. This slow frame rate will cause juddering with panning shots but some tvs have motion compensation to create extra intermediate frames to smooth out this issue. Sadly sky hd and freeview hd don't have the fluid movement of a blu-ray movie but some tvs can compensate for it. To see the benefit of 1080p over 720p on a 50" set you need to be at about 7 feet viewing distance or less.
#38
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
leeds85
shawty1984
Thermal Rider
My 42" Panasonic is only HD ready and I watch mainly freesat broadcasts using a Humax Foxsat receiver / recorder. The Humax upscales SD broadcasts to 1080i and it is quite difficult to see any difference in quality to the HD broadcasts. The price for this 50" is what I paid for my 42" 2 yrs ago and I only got 3 yrs guarantee not 5. I reckon using a Foxsat on this would produce similar results and is a hot deal.
How can you upscale to 1080i when you only have a HD Ready TV? HD Ready TV's do not have a big enough resolution to display 1080i.
what are you saying? that a 1080p HD ready TV doesn't have enough resolution to display 1080i?!?!
Who mentioned HD Ready 1080p? Not me or the poster I was replying to.
The poster didn't mention it was a 760p either, so why are saying that his TV doesn't enough resolution?
The poster said HD Ready. HD Ready means it can not support 1080 resolution which is both 1080i and 1080p. HD Ready 1080p is totally different to HD Ready. If his TV is HD Ready, which he said it was, it does not have enough resolution to display 1080i.
why do all these TV's say 1080p HD ready in middle of the screens when being advertised?look at the writting on the screensHD ready means there's no HD tuner built into the TV, therefore its only Ready to display HD.


Sigh, listen to me. HD Ready and HD Ready 1080p (or 1080p HD Ready) are two different things. HD Ready just does not mean there is no HD Tuner, there are various spefications that they have to adhere to to be able to use HD Ready.

Anything labeled as just HD Ready DOES NOT have a resolution of 1920 x 1080. As the OP describes the TV he has as HD Ready, thus we come to the conclusion that it does not have a resolution of 1920 x 1080 thus not being able to display 1080i. HD Ready TV's can never display 1080i, they can only input a 1080i signal.

Thank you Shawty1984, you know your stuff. I have looked in my tv manual at the spec. and it says "number of Pixels 786,432 (1.024(W) x 768 (H) [3,072 x 768 dots].
#39
tempted, thanks OP
#40
1080p is the firm choice when buying new for me, for one main reason, future proofing yourself.

As to the 1080i thing its only really equivalent to 540p since it only displays half screen at anyone time, yes I know it does this so fast I shouldn't see any difference but when you watch fast moving scenes in films and sports you can 100% see the tearing. I can totally see the argument that 720p is more than enough, since 99% of American HD content is in this format and that we are a fair way off being able to broadcast 1080p. Lets face it a 1080p screen is only really any good for BluRay and gaming at the minute, but IMHO the above doesn't matter since the price of a 1080p is so close to that of a 720p set you may as well future proof yourself.

The only caveat here is unless someone else can offer good reason why you shouldn't buy a 1080p TV at the minute? (New 1.3 HDMI standard about to get a lot cheaper to buy into maybe?)

Edited By: Euromancer on Sep 26, 2010 14:50: typeo

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