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Panasonic Viera TX-P50C3B Plasma TV, 50 Inch with built-in Freeview HD

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The Panasonic TX-P50C3B Plasma TV delivers big-screen entertainment direct to your living room, offering crisp high definition viewing. With a smooth and flicker-free picture courtesy of 600Hz processing, the TX-P50C3B a great choice for action films and sport.
Enjoy subscription-free HD entertainment via the integrated Freeview HD tuner. To watch Freeview HD broadcasts you’ll need to check that you can receive it in your area. Click here to find out more about Freeview HD.

Perfect for gaming, the TX-P50C3B has a special mode for gamers, initiating quicker image response, allowing you to enjoy smoother action. It will also produce the dark images clearer, helping to create added atmosphere.

Share your photos and videos from your camera or camcorder in high definition. Simply insert an SD Memory Card (not included) into the SD card input, and see yourself on the big-screen. Add a bit of fun to your slideshows by adding special background music, slideshow frames and transition effects.

If you have other VIERA devices, VIERA Link will enable you to connect them all, using only the VIERA remote control. This means you’ll only need the one remote to control all of your devices. Great if you’re constantly hunting down individual remotes!

This television is ‘high definition ready’ which means it has the ability to display high definition signals with the addition of a separate HD receiver. HD broadcasts are at a much higher resolution than regular analogue or digital broadcasts and have greatly enhanced picture quality. The level of detail is astonishing with clearer, sharper and more vibrant images.
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#1
Nice spot, it's £492.90 at amazon so the 5 year warranty is not free but still a good price.
#2
Cold - sorry - it's £494 from Richer Sounds with same 5 year warranty.

Also I am not a 1080 snob (really I'm not) but why on earth would John Lewis buying dept be selling this (as a 'new arrival') when it is only HD ready. I understand the likes of Amazon, Richer Sounds etc clearing out old HD ready stock - but John Lewis is boasting this is a 'new arrival', but in fact it's now quite old tech

In saying all of this, for a 50" plasma with 5 year warranty it's an ok price (from Richer Sounds), I think I'm just a bit surprised that they are putting their name to quite old tech



Edited By: sharkmark on Apr 26, 2011 23:34: typo
#3
sharkmark
(Freeview tuner isn't HD either).



It states 'Enjoy subscription-free HD entertainment via the integrated Freeview HD tuner' on the website. Why do you think this does not have Freeview HD?
#4
The C3B is new 2011 version of C2B. I have seen this TV live at JL and the picture is stunning even better than the G20 which is 1080p. I think the extra £70 is worth for the 5 year peace of mind.

The TV has HD Tuner DVB-T/T2 (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]), DVB-C (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]).

Specs http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/TX-P50C3/TX-P50C3B,en_GB,pd.html
#5
shariifi
The C3B is new 2011 version of C2B. I have seen this TV live at JL and the picture is stunning even better than the G20 which is 1080p. I think the extra £70 is worth for the 5 year peace of mind.


actually the JL warranty is given away for free with all their TVs over 26" and therefore is not worth anything close to £70. its free.
its also not a 5 years warranty, its a 4 year extended guarantee. you get a year free everywhere, so JL give you 4 years extra.
since they offer no better service in years 2-5 than in year 1, its not worth anything, money wise.

get them to price match Currys, Richer Sounds if you really want the free 4 years
#6
shariifi
The C3B is new 2011 version of C2B. I have seen this TV live at JL and the picture is stunning even better than the G20 which is 1080p. I think the extra £70 is worth for the 5 year peace of mind.

The TV has HD Tuner DVB-T/T2 (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]), DVB-C (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]).

Specs http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/TX-P50C3/TX-P50C3B,en_GB,pd.html


I can second this - the picture was actually amazing. And I couldn't tell why!? They had it next to Sammy's 55 inch LED and the c3b was in a different league!

I still went with the LE40C580 though, purely due to size of the room - and since I game a bit only 720p isn't ideal!
#7
CHEEPSTUFFRULES!
sharkmark
(Freeview tuner isn't HD either).


It states 'Enjoy subscription-free HD entertainment via the integrated Freeview HD tuner' on the website. Why do you think this does not have Freeview HD?

My bad - must be going blind... amended my post accordingly.

However still not sure why this is getting hot as it's £50 cheaper than JL at Richer sounds WITH the 5 year guarantee - £100 cheaper without the 5 year guarantee option... and I'm still amazed they are making HD ready sets with more and more people buying blu-ray players...
#8
tomwatts
shariifi
The C3B is new 2011 version of C2B. I have seen this TV live at JL and the picture is stunning even better than the G20 which is 1080p. I think the extra £70 is worth for the 5 year peace of mind.

The TV has HD Tuner DVB-T/T2 (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]), DVB-C (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]).

Specs http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/TX-P50C3/TX-P50C3B,en_GB,pd.html


I can second this - the picture was actually amazing. And I couldn't tell why!? They had it next to Sammy's 55 inch LED and the c3b was in a different league!

I still went with the LE40C580 though, purely due to size of the room - and since I game a bit only 720p isn't ideal!


It's an old panasonic trick, they send a rep to electrical stores to manual dial in optimal tv settings using proffesional tools. This is why pannys always look a bit better than other tvs. Companies like samsung don't bother with this and Their tvs are often on shop mode from the tvs engineer menu.

How else are they gonna convince u to part with twice as much cash otherwise?

Btw, panasonic will not let a company showcase their tvs without this clause to allow them to individually configure each and every tv on display.

Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Apr 27, 2011 01:25
1 Like #9
jayjayuk1234
using proffesional tools

a remote?
#10
phatboy123
jayjayuk1234
using proffesional tools


a remote?


Lol yeah, well they do use that, but I actually meant tools for analysing colours etc
1 Like #11
eyes?



lol enough, i know
#12
Here is a review (albeit of the 50" model):
http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-C3-TX-P42C3B-42-Inch-Plasma-TV-Review.html

seems to be using mainly 2010 technology - although tbf last years C model used 2009 tech so it is evolution of a kind ...
#13
Screen resolution: 1024 x 768

What The ****?
#14
will cost you the same again in electric bills !!!
#15
I recently bought the 42" after seeing one in the shop and the picture quality isn't as good on mine. I'm not that fussed on having full HD as i've turned off Sky HD for now. Nice looking set but it is a 'budget' set.
#16
slackrat77

its also not a 5 years warranty, its a 4 year extended guarantee. you get a year free everywhere, so JL give you 4 years extra.
since they offer no better service in years 2-5 than in year 1, its not worth anything, money wise.

get them to price match Currys, Richer Sounds if you really want the free 4 years



I guess I'm being a bit thick but what's the difference between an extended guarantee and a warranty. If your TV breaks down in 4 years time, will JL replace/repair it?
#17
sharkmark
Cold - sorry - it's £494 from Richer Sounds with same 5 year warranty.

Also I am not a 1080 snob (really I'm not) but why on earth would John Lewis buying dept be selling this (as a 'new arrival') when it is only HD ready. I understand the likes of Amazon, Richer Sounds etc clearing out old HD ready stock - but John Lewis is boasting this is a 'new arrival', but in fact it's now quite old tech

In saying all of this, for a 50" plasma with 5 year warranty it's an ok price (from Richer Sounds), I think I'm just a bit surprised that they are putting their name to quite old tech



If that's the case, ask JL to do a proce match with the price of the TV without the 5 year guarentee like i did,
banned#18
jayjayuk1234
tomwatts
shariifi
The C3B is new 2011 version of C2B. I have seen this TV live at JL and the picture is stunning even better than the G20 which is 1080p. I think the extra £70 is worth for the 5 year peace of mind.

The TV has HD Tuner DVB-T/T2 (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]), DVB-C (MPEG4-AVC [H.264]).

Specs http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/TX-P50C3/TX-P50C3B,en_GB,pd.html

I can second this - the picture was actually amazing. And I couldn't tell why!? They had it next to Sammy's 55 inch LED and the c3b was in a different league!

I still went with the LE40C580 though, purely due to size of the room - and since I game a bit only 720p isn't ideal!

It's an old panasonic trick, they send a rep to electrical stores to manual dial in optimal tv settings using proffesional tools. This is why pannys always look a bit better than other tvs. Companies like samsung don't bother with this and Their tvs are often on shop mode from the tvs engineer menu.

How else are they gonna convince u to part with twice as much cash otherwise?

Btw, panasonic will not let a company showcase their tvs without this clause to allow them to individually configure each and every tv on display.

Sounds like Panasonic are the only company with their heads screwed on right. If I produced TVs I'd sure as hell want them calibrated well rather than on "shop" settings.

Calibrated or not, no other manufacturers can touch them for quality.
#19
unterwasser
slackrat77

its also not a 5 years warranty, its a 4 year extended guarantee. you get a year free everywhere, so JL give you 4 years extra.
since they offer no better service in years 2-5 than in year 1, its not worth anything, money wise.

get them to price match Currys, Richer Sounds if you really want the free 4 years


I guess I'm being a bit thick but what's the difference between an extended guarantee and a warranty. If your TV breaks down in 4 years time, will JL replace/repair it?


I was also confunsed by slackrats comment - JL you get 5 years warranty/extended guarantee - so if it breaks down in 5 years then it will get fixed for free (1st year is manufacturers warranty, years 2-5 are provided as extra cover from JL) - it is as simple as that and most people wont care about who is actually footing the bill for the repair so long as it is not the purchaser. Consequently many people including myself would think that an extra 70 quid for the years 2-5 cover are well worth it.
#20
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.



Edited By: MrHappy37 on Apr 27, 2011 09:56
banned#21
MrHappy37
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.



It's a myth that SD looks better on 720p than 1080p.
#22
master_chief
MrHappy37
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.




It's a myth that SD looks better on 720p than 1080p.


yes and no, cos it depends on how good the TV's upscaling hard/software is.
have seen SD look so much better on a higher priced Panasonic 720p set than on a cheap branded 1080p LCD
#23
Cold, Cold, Cold. Its just expensive for what it is, I got a 50C10 (the same as this) 17months ago for £380 after quidco, this is a bottom of the range model. The 50S20 is 550 on Amazon and is a much better set than this. Nothing wrong with 720p/1080i TVs, but this is very very reflective and its a bottom of the line model, the price is too high
#24
slackrat77
master_chief
MrHappy37
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.



It's a myth that SD looks better on 720p than 1080p.

yes and no, cos it depends on how good the TV's upscaling hard/software is.
have seen SD look so much better on a higher priced Panasonic 720p set than on a cheap branded 1080p LCD

Well SD is better on plasma, this TV is good for SD but is reflective and isn't as good as the 50S20 on amazon for the same price


Edited By: 400lbBench on Apr 27, 2011 11:26
#25
master_chief
MrHappy37
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.



It's a myth that SD looks better on 720p than 1080p.


No.

720p is closer to the native res, therefore less scaling...
the same reason a decent CRT from years back (screen size limitations aside)
still out preforms MANY lcd/plasma hd sets when viewing SD.

ur a myth


Edited By: phatboy123 on Apr 27, 2011 11:31
banned#26
phatboy123
master_chief
MrHappy37
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.


It's a myth that SD looks better on 720p than 1080p.

No.

720p is closer to the native res, therefore less scaling...
the same reason a decent CRT from years back (screen size limitations aside)
still out preforms MANY lcd/plasma hd sets when viewing SD.

ur a myth


You see that's the myth, the assumption that being closer in resolution automatically makes it better.

Also the reason CRTs looked good is because they are showing "SD" natively. There's no scaling.

Edited By: master_chief on Apr 27, 2011 12:01
#27
Looks good value to me.

John Lewis is in a different league to other retailers.
#28
Inactive
Looks good value to me.

John Lewis is in a different league to other retailers.


in what way?
their electricals are priced competitively but so what?
their poncy overpriced homewares are how they make profit....but they only have 30 odd stores. why don't they have more if they're that awesome?
#29
slackrat77
Inactive
Looks good value to me.

John Lewis is in a different league to other retailers.

in what way?
their electricals are priced competitively but so what?
their poncy overpriced homewares are how they make profit....but they only have 30 odd stores. why don't they have more if they're that awesome?
Because John Lewis is owned by it's workers,and the workers are feeling the pinch in these straightened times.
#30
they're getting a massive share of the profits each financial year instead of working for commission week to week like the older electrical stores did in the past.

wonder if anyone has EVER bought a john lewis guarantee service on the TV rather than stick with the free one?

i suppose if yer paying more for the TV than the nearest high street competitor and not asking for a price match, then thats how much you're paying for a free warranty.

hmmmmm.
they seem to have this amazing reputation but I havent seen anything extraordinary in the Newcastle branch at all.
you could get the same sales pitch in Currys, Fenwicks or House of Fraser
#31
master_chief
phatboy123
master_chief
MrHappy37
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.



It's a myth that SD looks better on 720p than 1080p.


No.

720p is closer to the native res, therefore less scaling...
the same reason a decent CRT from years back (screen size limitations aside)
still out preforms MANY lcd/plasma hd sets when viewing SD.

ur a myth



You see that's the myth, the assumption that being closer in resolution automatically makes it better.

Also the reason CRTs looked good is because they are showing "SD" natively. There's no scaling.


Seconded, my LE40C580 looks as good as the old CRT we had for SD Sky...
#32
slackrat77
they're getting a massive share of the profits each financial year instead of working for commission week to week like the older electrical stores did in the past.

wonder if anyone has EVER bought a john lewis guarantee service on the TV rather than stick with the free one?

i suppose if yer paying more for the TV than the nearest high street competitor and not asking for a price match, then thats how much you're paying for a free warranty.

hmmmmm.
they seem to have this amazing reputation but I havent seen anything extraordinary in the Newcastle branch at all.
you could get the same sales pitch in Currys, Fenwicks or House of Fraser


You don't need a guarantee service with John Lewis because it's included. They also are the most polite people I've known to be in a shop, and they never, EVER, push you to get the product. I saw some old people interested in an iPad and the salesperson actually told them to wait for the iPad 2, or consider a kindle if they were interested in reading books on it (they didn't even stock the kindle at the time!)
#33
tomwatts
slackrat77
they're getting a massive share of the profits each financial year instead of working for commission week to week like the older electrical stores did in the past.

wonder if anyone has EVER bought a john lewis guarantee service on the TV rather than stick with the free one?

i suppose if yer paying more for the TV than the nearest high street competitor and not asking for a price match, then thats how much you're paying for a free warranty.

hmmmmm.
they seem to have this amazing reputation but I havent seen anything extraordinary in the Newcastle branch at all.
you could get the same sales pitch in Currys, Fenwicks or House of Fraser


You don't need a guarantee service with John Lewis because it's included. They also are the most polite people I've known to be in a shop, and they never, EVER, push you to get the product. I saw some old people interested in an iPad and the salesperson actually told them to wait for the iPad 2, or consider a kindle if they were interested in reading books on it (they didn't even stock the kindle at the time!)


not my experience. my cousin was registered at JL for her wedding and the assistant kept trying to push us towards the more expensive end of the gift range on the list, saying that its my cousin and she only gets married once hopefully.

service at a cost tho, they seem a fair bit more expensive that most.
but I dont drive an Audi or play golf......

it might be different in other branches but I was made to feel more poor than I actually am. guilt tripped into buying something I couldnt afford for the wedding.
#34
I wish they'd hurry up and oepn their store here in N. Ireland.......they are usually price competitive and offer an excellent 5yr guarantee.
It certainly used to be free and their price matching policy has always had a good rep.
The free 5yr guarantee would have had me buying from them everytime if they'd been selling here.

.....and Panasonic (and Pioneer before them) won many awards against 1080p sets verses their 720p sets, a good 720p set can easily match and beat a so-so 1080p set - which, let's face it most mass-market LCD sets are.
I'd also take a Panny Plasma over an LG or Sammy any day of the week.
Great price on a heck of a lot of great TV set, by all accounts.


Edited By: Gixxerman001 on Apr 27, 2011 20:03
banned 1 Like #35
I think someone who works for a competitor of JL has a bit of a grudge...
#36
MrHappy37
This tv is much better for standard definition viewing and only slightly behind a 1080 set on high definition viewing. I tried both 720 and 1080 panasonics and on normal everyday sd viewing the 720 was in a different league to the 1080 set, but on hd material, which is probably less than 5% of the average persons viewing, the 1080 was better, but only slightly.



The 720 is better on sd, thats not received wisdom, as mentioned above ive done the comparison.




Edited By: MrHappy37 on Apr 27, 2011 21:04
#37
slackrat77
Inactive
Looks good value to me.

John Lewis is in a different league to other retailers.


in what way?
their electricals are priced competitively but so what?
their poncy overpriced homewares are how they make profit....but they only have 30 odd stores. why don't they have more if they're that awesome?



5 year warranty, great service from a top retailer.
#38
Inactive
slackrat77
Inactive
Looks good value to me.

John Lewis is in a different league to other retailers.


in what way?
their electricals are priced competitively but so what?
their poncy overpriced homewares are how they make profit....but they only have 30 odd stores. why don't they have more if they're that awesome?



5 year warranty, great service from a top retailer.


4 years...you get the first year no matter where you buy from.
as for the service. not my experience.. maybe different in your local one.

as for me having a grudge cos I work for a competitor, if you knew me at all you'd know that wasnt true.
just my first ever experience of the awesome JL service was being made to feel i was poor.
great service.....being pushed into spending more money than you wanted to by being guilt tripped.
#39
slackrat77

4 years...you get the first year no matter where you buy from.
as for the service. not my experience.. maybe different in your local one.

as for me having a grudge cos I work for a competitor, if you knew me at all you'd know that wasnt true.
just my first ever experience of the awesome JL service was being made to feel i was poor.
great service.....being pushed into spending more money than you wanted to by being guilt tripped.


They are in a different league to the " box shifters " like Currys and Comet, they actually give customers a high level of excellent service.
#40
Inactive
slackrat77

4 years...you get the first year no matter where you buy from.
as for the service. not my experience.. maybe different in your local one.

as for me having a grudge cos I work for a competitor, if you knew me at all you'd know that wasnt true.
just my first ever experience of the awesome JL service was being made to feel i was poor.
great service.....being pushed into spending more money than you wanted to by being guilt tripped.


They are in a different league to the " box shifters " like Currys and Comet, they actually give customers a high level of excellent service.


ha, box shifters! as if we were, all the targets, KPI's Solutions Quotient hard selling we have to do. i wish it was box shifting! be a lot easier.

high level of customer service though. maybe elsewhere but not Newcastle store.
saw nothing of the sort.
same for the Dixons group store at Northumberland street too tho!!!
not even a hello

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