PANASONIC VIERA TXP42C3 42 inch Plasma HD Freeview TV - £329.95@ Richer Sounds - HotUKDeals
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I think this is their basic model, but for someone not really bothered about having the latest/top spec telly I think this is pretty good value. I have ordered this in store.

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When it comes to picture quality, a plasma TV takes a lot of beating and it's easy to see why with the TXP42C3. With a contrast ratio of 2,000,000:1, this plasma TV has a realism and depth of image that similarly priced LCD TVs struggle to match. Added to this is a response time of just 0.001m/sec. Again, this is better than LCD TVs and gives the Panasonic fast reactions to scene changes. All signals also benefit from 600Hz Sub Field Drive technology. 600Hz gives a more stable picture with less flicker and reduced motion blur. As well as providing top quality images for TV, the TXP42c3 makes a superb gaming monitor. The Game Mode function enhances the response rate for a more connected feel to the game.

With a home cinema-sized screen like this we'd always recommend a separate home cinema system for the best sound quality. Having said that, the built-in system offers enhancements over rival models. V-Audio Surround gives a spacious sound based on actual room measurement from the onboard digital signal processor. It gives a crisp, well-detailed sound quality.

The latest budget Panasonic plasma TV has Freeview HD built-in. With a Freeview HD tuner on board, you can make the most of the Panasonic's HD screen. Fast spreading around the country, Freeview HD gives you access to the main TV stations in glorious High Definition. Standard connections include 2 HDMI sockets - ideal for an HD games console and Blu-ray player. In addition to this, SCART and component sockets are on hand for connecting older components. A slightly more unusual fitment, but still welcome nonetheless, is a SD card reader. This easily accessible slot is perfect for showing pictures taken on your digital camera. The HDMI VIERA link lets you use a single remote control to operate several Panasonic VIERA devices connected via HDMI. This even includes the connection of Panasonic LUMIX digital cameras. Once connected, you can use the TV's remote control to playback stored images on the camera.

The TXP42c3 may be the most basic model in the Panasonic 42 inch plasma range but, with a picture quality this good, you'd never guess it!
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banned 2 Likes #1
Funny how it fails to.mention how power hungry these plasmas are compared.to LED

COLD
3 Likes #2
Well for someone like me who watches say a max 15 hours a week I couldn't care less!

Hot hot hot!
#3
Hard to believe how cheap these big TVs are now, especially when premium branded.

I realise this is the bottom end of Panasonic's range, but most people only see the badge.
#4
Cracking price imo for a quality brand! Voting cold simply because its a plasma is daft, where can you get a 42" LED for £329?
#5
Bit of a mis-match in specifications on this model. The TV is equipped with Freeview HD, but it can't display the 1080 resolution as it is only a 720 panel, hence the price
#6
And 720p isn't HD ?
#7
Normally the budget Panasonic plasma's have a reflection issue. They don't have the anti-reflection coating on the screen.
#8
This tv has been mentioned before in another recent HDUK thread. I actually rang Richer Sounds about this tv yesterday as a friend is looking for a new telly. The guy said he wouldn't recommend it as it's 5 year old technology (despite the freeview HD) and 'made up of spare parts' whatever that means. I wondered if this was an old design which Panasonic have added a freeview HD to and rebadged - which is why you don't seem to find it reviewed anywhere.

I would normally say buy Panasonic, and this tv could be a good buy at the price, but only because of the HD freeview. It's cheaper than elsewhere, but if you don't need HD freeview I would probably give it a miss.
#9
Good TV for gamers. Reviews:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p42c3b-tx-p42c3-201103211056.htm

http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-C3-TX-P42C3B-42-Inch-Plasma-TV-Review.html

Alternatively, consider the Toshiba 40RV753. £349 deal here http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/toshiba-40rv753-lcd-tv-40-full-hd-hd-freeview-348-95-reserve-collect-bestbuy/962491 . Full HD & HD Freeview. Reviews:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/toshiba-40rv753-40rv753b-20110118924.htm

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/televisions/plasma-and-lcd-tvs/toshiba-40rv753b-708731/reviewe.

No Panel or Processor 'lottery' with the 40RV753. It contains an S-PVA panel & Toshiba's own processor, which is superior to pretty much any other used by sub-£500 TVs.




Edited By: dooper on Jun 21, 2011 15:53: update
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aurora
This tv has been mentioned before in another recent HDUK thread. I actually rang Richer Sounds about this tv yesterday as a friend is looking for a new telly. The guy said he wouldn't recommend it as it's 5 year old technology (despite the freeview HD) and 'made up of spare parts' whatever that means. I wondered if this was an old design which Panasonic have added a freeview HD to and rebadged - which is why you don't seem to find it reviewed anywhere.

I would normally say buy Panasonic, and this tv could be a good buy at the price, but only because of the HD freeview. It's cheaper than elsewhere, but if you don't need HD freeview I would probably give it a miss.


PMSL made of spare parts what a tool !
#11
Funny how RS would rather you bought a more expensive model than this one. Wonder why that is?

I think this is basically the old X20 model with Freeview HD thrown in. If that's the case then screen reflection will be an issue if you have a lot of natural light in the room where you will be putting it. If that's not an issue for you, then this is a cracking TV and great value. Maybe not full HD, but plenty good enough for my eyes.

And it's true that it uses more power than an LED. About 60W more per the RS specs. That means abuot 10p more in electricity for every 15 hours you spend watching it.
#12
horacevankhute
Funny how it fails to.mention how power hungry these plasmas are compared.to LED

COLD


What LED TVs? there arent any.
#13
Must admit I get a bit annoyed when LCD tvs with LED backlighting are just called LED tvs as that is different technology. Also plasmas like CRT sets vary consumption with the brightness of the image so when you see plasma power consumption figures its often peak figures but LCDs give the constant power consumption figures. They are not the same type of figures.

Also freeview hd is 1080i, 1920x1080 interlaced. Its also quite a low bitrate. Its nothing special to be honest and doesn't compare to bluray. You only get 30 frames a second after deinterlacing. A 720p plasma set is more than capable of displaying it well downscaled to 1024x768 and adding extra frames to smooth animation etc.
#14
bonzobanana
Must admit I get a bit annoyed when LCD tvs with LED backlighting are just called LED tvs as that is different technology. Also plasmas like CRT sets vary consumption with the brightness of the image so when you see plasma power consumption figures its often peak figures but LCDs give the constant power consumption figures. They are not the same type of figures.

Also freeview hd is 1080i, 1920x1080 interlaced. Its also quite a low bitrate. Its nothing special to be honest and doesn't compare to bluray. You only get 30 frames a second after deinterlacing. A 720p plasma set is more than capable of displaying it well downscaled to 1024x768 and adding extra frames to smooth animation etc.

You're kidding right? Freeview HD makes a massive difference, superb for Football (ITV1 HD) and F1 (BBC HD).

Wouldn't want to be without it now, for F1.
#15
Heat added because this is amazingly cheap when you add Freeview HD, but as I say for all those low res big screen sets it's HD Ready TV in a Full HD World!!!
#16
slackrat77
horacevankhute
Funny how it fails to.mention how power hungry these plasmas are compared.to LED

COLD


What LED TVs? there arent any.


Yeh I love that misguided people think LED TV's actually exist!!! Backlit LED TV's yes but not actual full blown LED TV's unless they are twice this price and half the size. LED TV's are just an LCD Monitor with LED's for a Backlit rather than just the standard luminance from the Panel itself.

This LED lark is a masterful con that is sweeping across the TV market, through a bunch of inexpensive LED's in the casing (which they could have done years ago). Throw £100+ onto the price tag and away you go massive profit margins all round!!!!
1 Like #17
iBird90
slackrat77
horacevankhute
Funny how it fails to.mention how power hungry these plasmas are compared.to LED

COLD


What LED TVs? there arent any.


Yeh I love that misguided people think LED TV's actually exist!!! Backlit LED TV's yes but not actual full blown LED TV's unless they are twice this price and half the size. LED TV's are just an LCD Monitor with LED's for a Backlit rather than just the standard luminance from the Panel itself.

This LED lark is a masterful con that is sweeping across the TV market, through a bunch of inexpensive LED's in the casing (which they could have done years ago). Throw £100+ onto the price tag and away you go massive profit margins all round!!!!


thats horace for you, more brains in a carrot, he pays over odds for inferior products, guess whos laughing at him, pretty much all of us,lol
1 Like #18
horacevankhute
Funny how it fails to.mention how power hungry these plasmas are compared.to LED

COLD


Why hasn't anybody shot this bloke yet?!
#19
iBird90

Yeh I love that misguided people think LED TV's actually exist!!!
I love that misguided people think LED TV's don't exist!!! LED TVs have been around for a long time, get your facts straight. In fact, I believe they predate Plasma's.

Edited By: bluespace77 on Jun 21, 2011 23:46: .
#20
Is that 32 inch toshiba any good on richer sounds for £179? All you tellyphiles.


For a second telly, will be handling ps3 + hd freeview.
1 Like #21
bluespace77
iBird90

Yeh I love that misguided people think LED TV's actually exist!!!

LED TVs have been around for a long time, get your facts straight.

awww i see hug a horace has arrived,kiss kiss,pmsl

he talking about the general belief that led backligh/side lit tv are LED tv, which they aint true led tv, they gimmicks, the true 100% led tv is a while away yet for mainstream tv's
#22
I know what he's refering to, but the fact remains that 100% LED TVs have been around for a long time as in DECADES. Let's also not laugh at people who think that LCD LED BLU TVs are LED TVs, after it's manufacturers and so retailers who have marketed them as such.


Edited By: bluespace77 on Jun 22, 2011 01:20: .
#23
horacevankhute
Funny how it fails to.mention how power hungry these plasmas are compared.to LED

COLD

Must be a hot deal in that case!
3 Likes #24
i thought hd tvs were great until i watches a hd porn film ,put me right off them,i could see every spot and hair on her ass
#25
horacevankhute
Funny how it fails to.mention how power hungry these plasmas are compared.to LED

COLD


A 42" plasma uses about 150W , and LCD uses about 100W, thats 50W different.

Lets say 20p a KwH (which is an over-estimate I hope) , 8 hours a day (generous again) - that will cost .... £29 extra a year.
#26
kaiser051
i thought hd tvs were great until i watches a hd porn film ,put me right off them,i could see every spot and hair on her ass


Lol!
1 Like #27
iBird90

LED TV's are just an LCD Monitor with LED's for a Backlit rather than just the standard luminance from the Panel itself.


Hang on a second there chummy. "The standard luminance from the panel itself" ??? What's that all about then?

You ever heard that saying 'people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones', especially when they're thick?


Edited By: philby27 on Jun 22, 2011 08:16
1 Like #28
bluespace77
I know what he's refering to, but the fact remains that 100% LED TVs have been around for a long time as in DECADES. Let's also not laugh at people who think that LCD LED BLU TVs are LED TVs, after it's manufacturers and so retailers who have marketed them as such.



To the best of my knowledge, LED screens only exist in the commercial world of stadia entertainment.

In the consumer market, I believe that 'LED' refers only to the type of lighting source used to illuminate the LCD pixels in the TV.

I'm happy to be proven wrong. Please provide an example of the make & model of a 100% LED TV. Thanks.
1 Like #29
Unless you have perfect lighting conditions, the reflections on this set are going to be a pain in the ****. That said it is a plasma (which the vast majority of videophiles agree have a better picture) and it will have half decent image processing. on a tv this size 1080p is only really important if you sit really close to the tv and watch blu-rays, play games, use the tv as a monitor etc. I would give it a miss personally, but it'll be better than the supermarket brand tvs imo, even if they are 1080p.
#30
richardp2020
it is a plasma (which the vast majority of videophiles agree have a better picture)


Really? Are the people that review TVs at http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk and http://www.avforums.com/reviews/index.php not videophiles? They seem to be enthusiastic about LCD TVs.

Don't get me wrong... I like a good plasma... the http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p42g30b-p42g30-201104091079.htm would suit me nicely, but the budget says no.

In the sub £500 bracket, LCDs have the advantage over Plasmas. There's nothing to compete with the Toshiba 40RV753 & Samsung LE40C580 for overall picture quality. The LE40C580 also has deeper blacks than any Plasma short of the now superceded Panny S20/G20, which were both >£500
#31
I'm over at avforums too, but spend my time in the plasma forums, which is why I probably got that impression! I have a g20 :)
1 Like #32
The LE40C580 also has deeper blacks than any Plasma short of the now superceded Panny S20/G20, which were both >£500[/quote]The black level of this plasma, according the HDTV Test is the same as the LE40C580
(ANSI black level of 0.04 cd/m2)
#33
buttugly
The black level of this plasma, according the HDTV Test is the same as the LE40C580 (ANSI black level of 0.04 cd/m2)


The author of this review http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-le40c580-le32c580-20100728791.htm liked the TV so much that he bought one. He subsequently refined the optimum picture settings for it.

He has repeatedly asserted on http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/ that, in practice, no cheap plasma matches the C580s black levels... example http://www.avforums.com/forums/14352583-post77.html
#34
I can tell you now unless you are willing to cough up £700+, nothing beats a Panny plasma. I have a friend who has one of these and it stomps all over my Sony LCD for pure image quality. Don't take know notice of these fools who think they know it all.

True LEDS are the future, but you cant get a decent LED under 700 quid,
#35
bluespace77
iBird90

Yeh I love that misguided people think LED TV's actually exist!!!
I love that misguided people think LED TV's don't exist!!! LED TVs have been around for a long time, get your facts straight. In fact, I believe they predate Plasma's.

Where are they then??? Sony make 1 or 2 models, LG are meant to be bringing one out but it's yet to actually come to market - what are you on about?
#36
paulfreeland
I can tell you now unless you are willing to cough up £700+, nothing beats a Panny plasma. I have a friend who has one of these and it stomps all over my Sony LCD for pure image quality. Don't take know notice of these fools who think they know it all.


Your friend probably has a panny 10/20/30 series plasma, which yes stomps all over lcds. This is the low end plasma though, no 1080p, no screen coatings and no pioneer kuro technology.

People keep mentioning the energy situation with plasmas, but I have an energy monitor at home, and it actually uses less than my old lcd did. I'm not arguing that a new led tv would be the same, but it's not like you are going to see a massive increase in your electric bill if you are upgrading from an old tv.

Overall, I guess the plasma vs lcd situation comes down to preference, you need to go somewhere like richer sounds, turn the dynamic picture presets off and decide for yourself in a demo room. For the sort of money I am willing to pay for a tv, plasmas are by far the best option.
#37

Sorry to be a d**k, but the Valencia processor in Samsung's C Series is so much better than toshiba's processor. BE3 and Valencia joint top - MStar, Trident, Toshiba, BE2 and LG XD all come below.
#38
Supercharged
bluespace77
iBird90

Yeh I love that misguided people think LED TV's actually exist!!!
I love that misguided people think LED TV's don't exist!!! LED TVs have been around for a long time, get your facts straight. In fact, I believe they predate Plasma's.


Where are they then??? Sony make 1 or 2 models, LG are meant to be bringing one out but it's yet to actually come to market - what are you on about?


They are probably talking about the huge (low quality) displays you see for marketing etc and not anything you would have in your living room. Expanding the implied context to make their point.

Edited By: lordy on Jun 22, 2011 11:42
#39
lordy
Supercharged
bluespace77
iBird90

Yeh I love that misguided people think LED TV's actually exist!!!
I love that misguided people think LED TV's don't exist!!! LED TVs have been around for a long time, get your facts straight. In fact, I believe they predate Plasma's.

Where are they then??? Sony make 1 or 2 models, LG are meant to be bringing one out but it's yet to actually come to market - what are you on about?

They are probably talking about the huge (low quality) displays you see for marketing etc and not anything you would have in your living room. Expanding the implied context to make their point.

Ahh but you see, its all about perceived image - The LED screens you see for marketing and open air events are very similar to what you will have at home on an lcd, except at home they're absolutely tiny pixels - Its basically a magnified version of a home screen.

You have to remember that the next big step is OLED though... Which are quite different...

Edited By: tomwatts on Jun 22, 2011 11:47
#40
dooper
richardp2020
it is a plasma (which the vast majority of videophiles agree have a better picture)


Really? Are the people that review TVs at http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk and http://www.avforums.com/reviews/index.php not videophiles? They seem to be enthusiastic about LCD TVs.



Err look on http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/ and look at best tvs column?

The LE40C580 also has deeper blacks than any Plasma short of the now superceded Panny S20/G20, which were both >£500


I think you are overstating the case to your advantage. And we all know that those are older Panny models , and TV prices are coming down generally. The S20 today is under 500. You have some interesting points but exaggerating them.

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