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I would rather spend an extra £300 and buy this instead of a kia picanto

With the Government Scrappage Scheme you can save at least £2,000 on a brand new Fiat Panda, the compact city car with Italian spirit. The Government will provide £1,000 towards a new car and Fiat will give you an additional ECO-Bonus of at least £1,000.

Scrappage ends soon, so there's never been a better time to take a look at our nippy little award winner.
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#1
"I would rather spend an extra £300 and buy this instead of a kia picanto"

I would rather spend and extra £3000 and get a clio or fiesta.

Learnt in a Fiat Panda 100hp which was alright, but these are terrible...
#2
I can't think of a good reason to buy any Fiat.
Actually, make that any Italian car...
#3
jukkie
I can't think of a good reason to buy any Fiat.
Actually, make that any Italian car...


No to a Pagani zonda!:shock:



But back to the point. I think the point with the kia is the 7 year warranty. If you can get it for the 4.5K and in 7 years you may get 1k back then it's only costing you 500 notes a year.
#4
At least you can get 2 adults in the back of a Piccanto.

We looked at the Panda and I couldn't get in behind the driver and I'm only 5ft 11 and 14 stn, plus the boot was terrible and only a 3 yr warranty instead of KIA's 7 yr.
#5
jukkie
I can't think of a good reason to buy any Fiat.
Actually, make that any Italian car...



nonsense


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#6
#7
Foxy102;7559040

Plus UK loading (add £2000??) because the British will pay over the odds for anything plus import duty and VAT.:roll:
#8
I think the Kia deal is by far the better - 7 years warranty, bigger and better car.
#9
As with every post for a budget product there's gonna be snipers criticising. AT £5000 for a brand new car that's actually decent to drive I'm pretty impressed. Have to agree that the Appeal of the Kia is the 7 year warranty. haven't driven a Kia for 10 years, hated it at the time but I assume they've improved massively since.

Horses for courses, I'm guessing this'll be better to drive but the Kia's warranty is worth a lot - as the poster above said it's about £700/year motoring (minus what you get at the end of its life).
#10
Foxy102;7559040

They've stolen my design!!
I was drawing these when I was 3:-D
#11
these have been going for about a year now, was around when i bought my kia in april
#12
inicholson
As with every post for a budget product there's gonna be snipers criticising. AT £5000 for a brand new car that's actually decent to drive I'm pretty impressed. Have to agree that the Appeal of the Kia is the 7 year warranty. haven't driven a Kia for 10 years, hated it at the time but I assume they've improved massively since.

Horses for courses, I'm guessing this'll be better to drive but the Kia's warranty is worth a lot - as the poster above said it's about £700/year motoring (minus what you get at the end of its life).


100% agree. I just did some looking at the reviews on the What Car and Parkers web sites and there is nothing in it. Both score roughly the same with only half a point in it for most categories so it's worth reading the review and seeing which areas are more important to you. I have a bit of a soft spot for the Fiat for some reason I can't explain. Having previously owned a Hyundai (same company as Kia) I know how reliable they are but parts for the Korean cars can be a bit expensive hence I got rid of it.

I guess it depends how many miles you do a year as well because a used car could possibly offer better value if you are a low mileage driver and you get a few more toys thrown in that way.
#13
Should'nt knock Fiat remember they are one of the only firms going from strength to strength, so they must be doing something right.
They were going to bail out Vauxhall at one point, and now own one of the largest American firms Chrysler / Dodge.
I suggest people read reviews first. On some cars they have a 5 year warranty.


Can I also point out that if everyone continues buying Korean cars through the Scrapage Scheme which was set up to help the motor industry, its not helping the industry in Europe!
#14
So, this is really a 7 grand car then (before scrappage)? Not really so cheap is it?

Neither the KIA nor the FIAT are great cars. They won't (and aren't intended to) appeal to the real enthusiast, or chav for that matter so many of the comments which will be added here will be simply irrelevant. They're both about cheap city motoring for people who are mature and confident enough in themselves not to need a 'fashion brand'. On that basis a reliable KIA with a 7 year warranty has to be a far better bet than an unreliable (statistically true!) FIAT.

That said, I would have some concern about the safety aspects of either of these cars. Still far better than a used example of an older design though.

Just about merits a HOT I think.
#15
I'm not ready to get rid of my beautiful 10 year old Rover (75 in copperleaf red) just yet but a brand new car for less than £5k has got to be hot!
#16
paddymcn
I'm not ready to get rid of my beautiful 10 year old Rover (75 in copperleaf red) just yet but a brand new car for less than £5k has got to be hot!

Keep the Rover. Best car BMW have ever made (really)!
#17
My research, also factoring in the Nissan Pixo suggests that the pick of the bunch is the Hyundai i10
#18
F.I.A.T = Fix It Again Tommorow
#19
paddymcn
I'm not ready to get rid of my beautiful 10 year old Rover (75 in copperleaf red) just yet but a brand new car for less than £5k has got to be hot!


hi paddymcn, a work mate is offering his dads 53 reg 75 connieseur for £2k, think it's the 1.8, do you reckon it's a good car, seem to hear of problems with the 1.8 engine and difficulty getting parts, any views?, ta.
#20
drzoidberg
hi paddymcn, a work mate is offering his dads 53 reg 75 connieseur for £2k, think it's the 1.8, do you reckon it's a good car, seem to hear of problems with the 1.8 engine and difficulty getting parts, any views?, ta.

The 1.8 K series can be troublesome (overheating / head gaskets / warped heads) but a well maintained one can be very good indeed. It won't be that lively or economical in a car as big as the 75 though. Frankly, with a seven year old car it's a bit of a lottery - you could get lucky. Get someone knowledgeable to give it a thorough check over (AA / RAC if you need to - the cost could easily repay itself).
#21
drzoidberg
hi paddymcn, a work mate is offering his dads 53 reg 75 connieseur for £2k, think it's the 1.8, do you reckon it's a good car, seem to hear of problems with the 1.8 engine and difficulty getting parts, any views?, ta.


The 1.8 is prone to head gasket failure and a little under powered for such a large car. The gasket can be upgraded if it goes as mine did but it hasn't put me off plus I've never had a problem getting parts.

Have a look here, http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/. Post a little more detail there, mileage etc and you'll get a good idea of value. They are excellent motors and very good value
#22
Besford
motoring for people who are mature and confident enough in themselves not to need a 'fashion brand'.


Lol, you mean people that don't really know about cars and/or don't care. Lol, I'm confident enough to not need a 'fashion brand' but I don't want to drive around in a tin can that will struggle to get to 70! Sure, for people that just want transport for A to B, but I wouldn't say it is for people confident enough in themselves to not need a 'fashion brand'.
#23
SuperSambo;7558896
"I would rather spend an extra £300 and buy this instead of a kia picanto"

I would rather spend and extra £3000 and get a clio or fiesta.

Learnt in a Fiat Panda 100hp which was alright, but these are terrible...

Go ahead, it's your money. I hope the Renault badge brings you solace when you're sat in it waiting for the AA.
#24
thanks for that, will have a look at that site. just getting a hankering for a large wafty saloon, must be getting old!
#25
dopeydog
Lol, you mean people that don't really know about cars and/or don't care. Lol, I'm confident enough to not need a 'fashion brand' but I don't want to drive around in a tin can that will struggle to get to 70! Sure, for people that just want transport for A to B, but I wouldn't say it is for people confident enough in themselves to not need a 'fashion brand'.

Why so touchy - did I hit a raw nerve there?

I think we're in complete agreement but you can't see it. Did you choose your name on here or did someone give it to you?

Plenty of people 'don't really know about cars and/or don't care'. With 30 years motor industry experience and an enthusiast to boot (they don't automatically go together) I'm not one of them but I've made a very good living by realising that my views and requirements are not the same as everyone else's. I certainly wouldn't choose one of these for myself but I do know plenty of people for whom it could be a good choice.

PS you 'Lol' too much - hate that!
#26
drzoidberg
thanks for that, will have a look at that site. just getting a hankering for a large wafty saloon, must be getting old!

Get a good one and you'll love it. Not that big inside though.
#27
We never thought we'd buy a Fiat but, we bought a Fiat 500 last year & its effffffffin' brilliant!
#28
Our panda was fantastic, except when it rained (or when it was generally damp) the dualogic gearbox kept failing and dropping back into neutral, once while we were doing 80 down the M6.

It was in and out of the dealer several times, and they couldn't fix it (but wouldn't replace it without us paying £1k)

If the gearbox was OK, we would still have it today; as it was, we waited for a dry spell (no failures) and part ex'd it for something else.
#29
londislagerhound
My research, also factoring in the Nissan Pixo suggests that the pick of the bunch is the Hyundai i10


my research in the summer, which was backed up by my wallet, came to the same conclusion.


more than 3 month wait for delivery and the deals are nowhere near as good on the i10 now, but it's comfortably the best car in the price range.

I paid 5.5k for the non base model i10
#30
Only worth it if your current car is worth less than £1000 privately, as you can get the Panda 1.1 Active Eco for £5,995 without scrappage here - http://www.fiatsupasaver.com/ItemDetail.aspx?mID=3
#31
sbfc
I think the Kia deal is by far the better - 7 years warranty, bigger and better car.

Indeed, there was a point to the Kia posting (it was a new offer) whereas this "deal" is nothing new - it's just the same deal that Fiat have been running for ages.
The post just smacks of Kia bashing and is probably just trying to cash in and get some of the same heat (I voted cold as a result, hth).

Besford
Keep the Rover. Best car BMW have ever made (really)!

The Rover 75 was actually made by (wait for it) Rover. The clue is in the name - what with it being called "Rover 75" and not "BMW 75".
BMWs, as a rule, tend not to be assembled by half-arsed British workers in the Midlands...

Thanks to the press, there was initial speculation that it was based on the BMW 5 series floorpan, but this turned out to be complete rubbish. It's still commonly thrown around by some 75 owners as unsubstantiated pub banter in the aim of bigging up their cars though. BMW had feck all to do with the 75 other than a few signatures here and there.

Don't get me wrong, I like the 75, but the only decent one is the V8. Give me a Rover 620ti any day :-D
#32
I'm thinking of getting a new run-around car to get shot of my old 106. Can't really justify a "real car" when I live in central london but something to pop to the shops and the occational trip outside london, this (and the KIA) seem spot on.

Only problem for me is I'm a lanky c**nt, about 6'2. The 106 is a bit of a squeeze. I'm not sure how one of these would be for someone like me
#33
TeamMCS
I'm thinking of getting a new run-around car to get shot of my old 106. Can't really justify a "real car" when I live in central london but something to pop to the shops and the occational trip outside london, this (and the KIA) seem spot on.

Only problem for me is I'm a lanky c**nt, about 6'2. The 106 is a bit of a squeeze. I'm not sure how one of these would be for someone like me


They are surpsingly roomy - it's a fairly tall car inside.
I'm 6ft1 and fit no problem
#34
I've got a 500 on the way as our second car - scrapping our old ST24 on the way. Basically the same car as a Panda I'm told but it has everything on it. Mainly though we're looking forward to the £35 a year tax.
#35
Phil21


The Rover 75 was actually made by (wait for it) Rover. The clue is in the name - what with it being called "Rover 75" and not "BMW 75".
BMWs, as a rule, tend not to be assembled by half-arsed British workers in the Midlands...

Thanks to the press, there was initial speculation that it was based on the BMW 5 series floorpan, but this turned out to be complete rubbish. It's still commonly thrown around by some 75 owners as unsubstantiated pub banter in the aim of bigging up their cars though. BMW had feck all to do with the 75 other than a few signatures here and there.

Don't get me wrong, I like the 75, but the only decent one is the V8. Give me a Rover 620ti any day :-D


The early Rovers were built at Cowley which is (wait for it) a BMW factory. Later they were built at Longbridge.

Also, the Diesel engine was a slightly detuned 320 / 520 engine. If you were to buy a 75, it's supposedly the best engine to buy.

So not entirely non-BMW and built by the same "half-arsed" workers.
#36
Dr Zoidberg
They are surpsingly roomy - it's a fairly tall car inside.
I'm 6ft1 and fit no problem


I'll add to this. I'm 6'1" too and i fit in the Panda fine. Although I'm told I look stupid driving it, but then again I look stupid driving any small car.
#37
newsgroupmonkey
The early Rovers were built at Cowley which is (wait for it) a BMW factory..

It's a Rover factory that was bought by BMW, along with the rest of Rover.
It became a BMW factory in 2001, the year that BMW started production of the MINI (fancy that, eh?).

So remind me... in which year did Rover start making the 75. Was it before or after 2001?...
And in which year was Rover 75 production halted at Cowley?

Oh look, that was just as it was converted to a BMW factory.
In fact it was specifically because it was converted to a BMW factory.

HTH

newsgroupmonkey
Also, the Diesel engine was a slightly detuned 320 / 520 engine. If you were to buy a 75, it's supposedly the best engine to buy.
So not entirely non-BMW and built by the same "half-arsed" workers.

Having a BMW engine in some of it's models is not the same as it being a BMW.

pmackers
I put it on to show that there are other similar deals to the kia out there and because I think the kia is a bit of a girls car. The front lights look really feline

So exactly as I said then, it was just a Kia bashing "deal".
#38
Phil21
Indeed, there was a point to the Kia posting (it was a new offer) whereas this "deal" is nothing new - it's just the same deal that Fiat have been running for ages.
The post just smacks of Kia bashing and is probably just trying to cash in and get some of the same heat (I voted cold as a result, hth).


The Rover 75 was actually made by (wait for it) Rover. The clue is in the name - what with it being called "Rover 75" and not "BMW 75".
BMWs, as a rule, tend not to be assembled by half-arsed British workers in the Midlands...

Thanks to the press, there was initial speculation that it was based on the BMW 5 series floorpan, but this turned out to be complete rubbish. It's still commonly thrown around by some 75 owners as unsubstantiated pub banter in the aim of bigging up their cars though. BMW had feck all to do with the 75 other than a few signatures here and there.

Don't get me wrong, I like the 75, but the only decent one is the V8. Give me a Rover 620ti any day :-D


I put it on to show that there are other similar deals to the kia out there and because I think the kia is a bit of a girls car. The front lights look really feline
#39
I can appreciate both the Panda and the Kia for what they are.

I think if I had to choose one though, it'd be the Kia. I know someone who'se had one for appx 5 years now and they've had no real issues with it.
#40
Besford
With 30 years motor industry experience


lol, thats why the UK car industry is poo! lolololololololol.

Besford
I certainly wouldn't choose one of these for myself but I do know plenty of people for whom it could be a good choice.


same. but none of these people would care about brands, not because of maturity, but because they don't really know about them. Like a lot of people wouldn't care if their camera was a canon or a vivitar. But if they knew their cameras, they would want the canon. This car is the same. Basic cheap motoring.

Besford
Did you choose your name on here or did someone give it to you?


Yes, I am obviously the worlds first internet forum using canine. And I am obviously very dopey too. lololol

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