*PAY AS YOU GO* Orange - San Francisco Android 2.1 WVGA TFT Capacitive FM SatNav - £109 @ Orange - HotUKDeals
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Colour Grey: http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/San-Francisco-from-Orange-in-grey
Colour White: http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/San-Francisco-from-Orange-in-white

Available instore for £99 + mandatory £20 topup and online for £99 + mandatory £10 topup.

Cashback is £18 via Quidco. Orange often doesn't track so you might need to submit a cashback query.

NHS discount (£20) also available instore, also possibly council workers. You will be required to take a pay cheque, they MAY let you just show NHS i.d card.

Price after £18 cashback = £89.98 delivered. There is a free gift box offer available online: http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/xmas/giftBox?chosenPage=giftBox

If you have an orange PAYG simcard you can get £20 off which brings it down to £89.99, just call the sales team on 0800 079 2000 and ask for the discount! Some people have got it for £78.99, it often takes multiple phone calls to get it for that price and you will also certainly need an orange payg sim card that you have topped up recently to get a price of £78.99, £82.99 or £89.99 which are the 3 prices most people get quoted. As of early december nearly everyone is getting the £78.99 price now, it seems orange is happy to sell it at that price for existing payg customers.

Paul @ Modaco is releasing custom roms, forum for Orange San Francisco/ZTE Blade custom roms here: http://android.modaco.com/category/453/zte-blade-blade-modaco-com/

Specs:

Talk Time: 4 hours
Standby Time: 9 days
Weight: 130g
Dimensions: 116 x 56.5 x 11.8
3.5 inch touchscreen, 480x800
600MHz CPU
Camera Features: 3 megapixel
Connectivity: WiFi / Bluetooth / USB / SatNav
Music: MP3 / FM Radio
Network Band: Tri band
Video: Messaging
Memory: 512 MB internal (160mb spare) / Up to 32gb Micro SD Card
Email: POP3 / IMAP4
Data Speed: 3G +
Operating System: Android
Version: Eclair v2.1
Other: Orange WiFi, Your Orange
Applications and Features: Orange Maps, Orange Messenger by Windows Live, Orange App Store, Email, Orange Wednesdays

As a comparison to another lowER value android phone the HTC wildfire, the photos are 3mp instead of 5mp and look rather alot worse, i've compared them. The battery life it approximately half of the HTC wildfire, HOWEVER the screen is bigger and 480x800 res so its far easier to read, you are able to zoom in on webpages and read correctly where as you can only see in 100% zoomed in or fully zoomed out on the htc wildfire. The wildfire uses 240x320 resolution so there are many apps that aren't available on the android market for it, there's many more available for the Orange San Francisco. The cpu is 600mhz vs 528mhz and is considerably faster on the orange san francisco i've found. The HTC Wildfire has Android 2.2 firmware update available now. The orange san francisco is way cheaper. The Samsung i5500 Galaxy Europa is available for £99+£10 topup at e2save, it also has advantages and disadvantages over the san francisco.

FREE Unlock calculator: http://www.nextgenserver.com/calculator/
Put your IMEI in (which is printed on the box and is also available at Settings-About Phone-Status-IMEI), select ZTE, leave default model as ZTE BLUEBELT. Put a non-orange sim card in and enter the code and press "unlock" and it will then be done.

Samsung i900 Screen Protector fits brilliantly without any cutting. For a soft gel case the Nokia e71 is a great fit but will require you to make a hole as the speaker is covered, as of 8th dec there are no silicone cases that are designed for the Orange san francisco available yet, usually they are out a few weeks after new handsets are released.

Link to Wiki page which will give you lots of info about this phone: http://wiki.jimatech.com/index.php?title=Orange_SanFransisco_Mobile

This phone for can sometimes be bought for £159 with one years pre-paid credit on orange in shop. Also £129 for the phone with 6 months credit. (Credit is loaded automatically every month at £10 for one whole year on the sim card, along with free extras which you choose such as free internet or calls etc). This is alot cheaper than buying the phone separate and than topping up £10 each month over the year. You can buy this phone on contract on orange's site but its very expensive, cheaper to buy the phone and use payg sims or the £7.50/month vodafone sim or £10/month tesco sim depending on your needs.

Vodafone UK 3G/MMS settings for PAYG and also Contract sims, tested and works perfectly: http://pastebin.ca/1991037

Wifi is a problem for this phone, for many users it stops working, we believe this is a driver problem of the handset, its unknown if orange will release a software update, i can't find an option on the phone to search for software updates, you may need to take it instore to get it upgraded if/when a fix is released. Apparently android 2.2 custom roms fix the wifi problem. Please phone orange and ask about a software update to fix wifi and reply in this thread with their response.

Android 2.2 a.k.a froyo won't be released by orange according to their tweet: "We have no plans to launch 2.2 on the San Francisco I'm afraid". There is no option on the phone to check for updates so unless they release a usb software update online or their staff instore do them then its unlikely we'll ever get an official fix for the wifi not working all the time, which is likely a driver problem.

Blade wifi fix a free app available on android market reduces/fixes the wireless dying when your phone is in sleep mode, another way to reduce the problem is to disable this setting: Settings-Wireless & network settings-wifi settings-menu (button)-Advanced-Wifi sleep policy-Never

Screens are now TFT and not AMOLED in order to reduce their costs. Some older batches of the grey phones used to be AMOLED but not anymore. TFT reduces battery life and has a backlight when the screen is black instead of being completely black which AMOLED does. To find out if you phone has AMOLED you should switch it on, the black background surrounding the orange logo should be completely black, if its grey your screen is TFT. Another way to find out if your phone is TFT or AMOLED is by dialing *983*24474636# in the dialer. Your phone will then say 1 of the following:

OLED:

LCD Information:
IC: TL2796
Glass: Samsung

TFT/LCD:

IC: NT35580
Glass: LEAD OR
Glass: TRULY

"Free £10 airtime voucher applied once this mobile phone is activated. Offer not available online, please add mobile to trolley to reserve for store pick-up. Offer ends 29th July 2011."
- Geb786

PRICE UPDATE; Now available for £74.99 with free £10 (thanks Geb786) at Orange via telesales. Call 0800 801080 option 1, opt' 1, opt'1. You will need to have been an Orange payg customer for at least 3 months to get this price (thanks orange2). Get your free airtime by calling 0800 079 0006.
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Proper link and picture:

Link to Modaco.com discussion

http://images.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/orange_san_francisco.jpg

Edited By: lookingforadeal on Sep 23, 2010 12:20: picture link
2 Likes #2
Nice. Very nice in fact. Looks a considerable step up from the current entry level Android H/S (Pulse).
H&R.
#3
Thanks. Again, getting techie, but the source for the kernel has already been released, so there is potential for 2.2 to be put on. Also, live wallpapers etc. are enabled by default.

Review including video here

Edited By: lookingforadeal on Sep 23, 2010 12:36: video link
#4
lookingforadeal
Thanks. Again, getting techie, but the source for the kernel has already been released, so there is potential for 2.2 to be put on. Also, live wallpapers etc. are enabled by default.


Be good to get rid of the Orange bloatware at least (like I have on my Desire) :)
banned#5
Going to grab one of these in the morning. Been following Paul on twitter :)

I hope it can be sim unlocked ...
#6
Should point out that the memory of this is 424MB and the free internal storage is 150MB with a 2GB SD card upgradable to 32GB. And it has been rooted already :)

Voted hot
#7
looks superb. it's got everything u'd want from a phone
#8
Much better than the pulse overall, the only thing lacking is the smaller battery at 1250mAh.

Great deal
#9
does satnav mean gps?
#10
I think I may get this. I have a HTC Kaiser right now that's had some right hammer. This price for a good spec Android phone looks good to me.
#11
is the screen cap or resistive?
#12
Capacitive and OLED. Which means it's on a par with the Nexus One.
#13
this is a hot price!

android 2.1
OLED
capacitive
built in radio
gps
bluetooth
wifi

plus its been rooted!

I am so tempted to get this just to be able to play around with android!
#14
jamoor
does satnav mean gps?

Yes.
#15
electric0ant
this is a hot price!

android 2.1
OLED
capacitive
built in radio
gps
bluetooth
wifi

plus its been rooted!

I am so tempted to get this just to be able to play around with android!


Android is the most fun you can have with a mobile if you like getting techy :) I've rooted updated to froyo, have app2sd, partitioned, setCPU and have acces to so many apps for much less than a fixed offering iPhone it's simply amazing.
#16
Amazing if I'd seen this I would have not purchased an expensive contract to get the HTC desire, this could be perfect for the wife. Nice to see it's got wifi and a capacitive OLED. Unlocking could be an issue on something this new?
#17
This appears to be amazing ... an entry level PAYG which has not gone down the "cut resolution" route but has increased it and used OLED. RAM size appears great (note: this is where the Tmobile Pulse has problems when moving from Android 1.5 to 2.1).

Main potential weakness from what I read is that the PAYG plan only has 100MB data per month before you start paying for extra .... this could be come an issue with Android once you start downloading a few big apps etc.
#18
Arrrhh, Just bought the Pulse offer yesterday. This looks like a much better phone...!! :(
#19
deshepherd

Main potential weakness from what I read is that the PAYG plan only has 100MB data per month before you start paying for extra .... this could be come an issue with Android once you start downloading a few big apps etc.


Though you could download big stuff over WiFi and save your mobile data for browsing/email.
#20
can't find any mention on the linked site?
#21
I'd return it unopened if possible?, this is much much much better!
#22
deshepherd
This appears to be amazing ... an entry level PAYG which has not gone down the "cut resolution" route but has increased it and used OLED. RAM size appears great (note: this is where the Tmobile Pulse has problems when moving from Android 1.5 to 2.1).

Main potential weakness from what I read is that the PAYG plan only has 100MB data per month before you start paying for extra .... this could be come an issue with Android once you start downloading a few big apps etc.


I'd unlock and use what plan I want to....can you pay instore for an unlock like some stores now offer? I do any big apps over wifi anyway.
#23
This looks great for the money
#24
loopie
I'd return it unopened if possible?, this is much much much better!


Chances of not opening a new gadget a day after buying = zero :)
#25
Lupeto
loopie
I'd return it unopened if possible?, this is much much much better!
Chances of not opening a new gadget a day after buying = zero :)

True, though there is a 7 day cool off period. Anyone know if you have to post back or if they can take it back at the t-mobile shop?
#26
I see the Pulse is back up to £99 again. In which case the San Francisco is the way to go. The MoDaCo guys seem very impressed with it and they are the experts.
#27
Darkman
Lupeto
loopie
I'd return it unopened if possible?, this is much much much better!
Chances of not opening a new gadget a day after buying = zero :)


True, though there is a 7 day cool off period. Anyone know if you have to post back or if they can take it back at the t-mobile shop?


I'd try a return in store and credit to your credit card, worst they can say is no.
#28
deshepherd

Main potential weakness from what I read is that the PAYG plan only has 100MB data per month before you start paying for extra


How does this work then? Do you get a data allowance on PAYG? I thought PAYG mean you pay for what you use?
#29
F**ked off now - sod's law, I previously purchased the unlocked LG Optimus GT540 handset (thought it was the best deal at the time & stuck on Android 1.6) and now I'm tempted to get this one as well...arrrggghhh!!!! :(

That's it I'm off to the pub to do some serious thinking over this one! :{
#30
Can't find this phone, anyone else?
#31
Anyone know if it can be unlocked because I could sell my i5700 and get one of these !!
#32
Really must learn to read! Instore only. Any free unlock solutions for this? Had enough of my Nokia X6.
#33
synet
deshepherd

Main potential weakness from what I read is that the PAYG plan only has 100MB data per month before you start paying for extra


How does this work then? Do you get a data allowance on PAYG? I thought PAYG mean you pay for what you use?


From what I can see data is charged in the "normal" PAYG way at some cost per MB ... but when you top up you get a months "free internet*" ... how ever the *footnote says that internet is "capped at 100MB per month" - I assume this means the free internet is limited to 100MB and you pay for any excess rather than a "once you get to 100MB it's no internet for you for the rest of the month".

Agree with the comment that you can use WiFi for big downloads ... however 100MB seems a low limit ~ 3MB/day. Just had a look at my Tmob online account info and looks like I've probably used that amount in the last 24 hours and that's just a bit of light browsing along with all the background activities that Android does. Note, in comparison Tmobile have a "fair usage" limit on their internet of 40MB per day.

Maybe as Orange and Tmobile merge then the "6 months internet for £20" addon that Tmobile do will move to Orange ... however its more likely, I fear, that the 100MB/month limit will migrate in the other direction :-(
#34
Do orange offer unlocking for a fixed cost like O2 on the Iphones or Vodaphone
#35
lookingforadeal
Capacitive and OLED. Which means it's on a par with the Nexus One.


but only a 600mhz cpu, :(
#36
Are Orange Maps any better than google maps/sat nav software which is free?
#37
600 mhz should be fine for a phone, it's the same as the HTC Legend and that worked a treat on the one I played with. Battery life should be better than a 1 gig model anyway!
#38
Can you unlock this phone? I am on Three and wonder if I can use it with my current Three SIM?
#39
the Amsterdam will be better, plus it'll be the first Smartphone under £100

but hot deal nevertheless
#40
damadgeruk
Really must learn to read! Instore only. Any free unlock solutions for this? Had enough of my Nokia X6.


Why? What's wrong with X6? I was thinking of getting it actually (only because of TV-Out feature as I travel a lot and would like to carry my home movies/photos with me which I can link to a TV in my hotel room).

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