PC Base, Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2Ghz, 1 Gb Ram, 250 Gb HDD, Vista Home Prem, Refurb, 12 Mths Warranty, £159.99 Del @Currys - HotUKDeals
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* Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 Processor
* 2.2 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 2 Mb Cache
* Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
* 1024 Mb RAM Memory
* 250 Gb Hard Disk Capacity
* Multi-Format Dual Layer DVD RW
* Intel Graphics Media 950 Graphics
* 6 USB connections
* 3 PCI Slots

Struggle to build it cheaper.
Processor £70-80
Vista Prem £65
etc...

Mobo seems pretty good with upgrade possibilities by ECS, details to come
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#1
http://www.e4allupgraders.info/dir2/images/motherboards/945GCT-M3.jpg

Documented General Info:

Processor
• LGA775 socket for latest Intel Core 2 Duo / Pentium D / Pentium 4 / Celeron D processor
• FSB 1066/800/533 MHz
• Support Hyper-Threading Technology

Chipset
• Intel® 945GC & ICH7
• North Bridge: Intel® 945GC
• South Bridge: Intel® ICH7

Memory
• Dual-channel DDR2 memory architecture
• 2 x 240-pin DDR DIMM socket support up to 2 GB
• Support DDR2 667/533/400 DDR2 SDRAM

Audio
• Realtek ALC655 6-channel audio CODEC (optional)
• Realtek ALC883 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio codec

Onboard I/O Connectors
• Supported by Intel®ICH7
- 2 x Ultra DMA100/66 devices
- 4 x Serial ATA2 devices

Peripheral Interface [Internal/Rear Panel]
1 x 24-pin ATX Power Supply connector
1 x 4-pin ATX 12V connector
1 x FDD connector
1 x IDE connector
4 x Serial ATA connectors
2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 4 USB Ports
1 x SPDIF out header
1 x SPDIF in header
1 x Front panel switch/LED header
1 x Front panel audio header
1 x IrDA for SIR header
1 x Buzzer
AUX-in header
CPUFAN/SYSFAN connectors

1 x PS/2 keyboard & PS/2 mouse connectors
1 x Parallel port (LPT1)
1 x Serial port (COM1)
1 x VGA port
4 x USB ports
1 x LAN port
1 x Audio port (Line-in,4x Line-out, Mic_in)

Expansion Slots
• 1 x PCI Express x1 slot
• 1 x PCI Express x16 slot
• 2 x PCI slots

BIOS
• Award BIOS with 4Mb Flash ROM
• Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI
• Supports ACPI revision 1.0 specification

Onboard LAN
• Realtek RTL8110SC Giga LAN Controller
• Realtek RTL8100C 10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet Controller(optional)

Video
• Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 ( GMA950 )

Form Factor
microATX (9.60 inches by 9.60 inches [244 millimeters by 244 millimeters])

Other
• Only A2 chipset supports FSB1066 MHz, and Memory DDR2 667

For more info on this motherboard, download the manual in the download section.
#2
nice find
#3
it's an EMACHINES E4264, good find
#4
If you want a basic machine for internet, email etc, it looks good value to me, but what do the experts think?
#5
hondar
If you want a basic machine for internet, email etc, it looks good value to me, but what do the experts think?


In this state I would agree, for anything more i.e games, a new PSU, RAM and graphics card are a prerequisite. The Mobo is capable upto 1066fsb
#6
Fantastic spec for the price, voted hot.
#7
Better to get this from Dixons if you want a monitor aswell...
http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/538889

20" LG for £100

Or cheaper at pcworld after the 5% voucher code!
#8
gary_rip
Better to get this from Dixons if you want a monitor aswell...
http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/538889

20" LG for £100

Or cheaper at pcworld after the 5% voucher code!


Thanks Gary_rip the LG monitor looks good

Unfortunately the 5% at PC World has expired
#9
yeah same price at pc world, i wish i had the money!.
#10
gary_rip
Better to get this from Dixons if you want a monitor aswell...
http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/538889

20" LG for £100

Or cheaper at pcworld after the 5% voucher code!


Would you be able to use that monitor as a tv?



Sorry OP dont mean to hijack your thread.. great deal btw :oops:
#11
proevo21
Would you be able to use that monitor as a tv?



Sorry OP dont mean to hijack your thread.. great deal btw :oops:


No problem, I think that LG monitor only has VGA input, so you would need some sort of a vga to scart adapter, but I'm not an expert in this field sorry.
#12
hmmm its ok but the CPU looks like it's being discountinuted i fix computers as a full time job and also do it at weekends and ive seen several E machines power supplys fail so I presume they are fairly cheap components. I guess you could always buy it and break it to put on ebay..Vista worth £60 and the CPU maybe worth £40 dont really see thats its worth £160 you could build a better one for about £260 and infact I have via scan and it;s not like it's even new kit I think you will be getting what you pay for here somtimes its better to pay a bit extra because you will get better components thats my honest opinion anyway.
#13
slinkydonkey
hmmm its ok but the CPU looks like it's being discountinuted i fix computers as a full time job and also do it at weekends and ive seen several E machines power supplys fail so I presume they are fairly cheap components. I guess you could always buy it and break it to put on ebay..Vista worth £60 and the CPU maybe worth £40 dont really see thats its worth £260 you could build a better one for about £200 and infact I have via scan and it;s not like it's even new kit... thats my opinion though.:whistling:


I agree the PSU may be a weak link in this machine if components are added to it. I myself would probably upgrade the PSU anyway.

Where did you get £260 from? And please give examples for building the same base unit from the original cost of £159.99 quoted in the original deal please
banned#14
any reviews?
#15
ROKO
any reviews?


A random guy liked it on Reevoo, but struggling to find anything noteworthy

http://www.reevoo.com/reviews/mpn/emachines/e4264
#16
PinkyPonk Driver
I agree the PSU may be a weak link in this machine if components are added to it. I myself would probably upgrade the PSU anyway.

Where did you get £260 from? And please give examples for building the same base unit from the original cost of £159.99 quoted in the original deal please


The £260 is of a machine I have recently built myself I don't have to give a quote to build a system to the value of £159.99 its called free speech im aloud to express an opinion if you take offence to my opinion that is fine but I have over 20 years expereince in the IT industry and build computers for a living. Below is an exmaple of a decent machine which would wipe the floor with a 2nd hand "e machine"

Product Quantity Price
----------------------------------------------------------
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600, Allendale C 1 £63.97
1GB Elixir Major, DDR2 PC2-5300 (66 2 £9.89
EZcool Internal Black All In One US 1 £6.99
Asus TA-861 Black Midi Tower Case 1 £15.99
320 GB Samsung HD321KJ Spinpoint T1 1 £27.19
Samsung TS-H492C/LEAH x52 CDRW x16 1 £5.99
Gigabyte GA-945GCM-S2L, i945GC, S77 1 £27.00
----------------------------------------------------------
Nett total £166.91
Carriage £0.00
VAT £29.21
Total £196.12

Yes this did not include an O/S buy you could put Ubuntu on it which would be fine for Internet usage and open office for word processing.

Thanks:whistling:
#17
The deal is hot and if you are just using it for net browsing, email, word processing it will be fine. The PSU i think is 300W which is more than capable to power the components.
#18
slinkydonkey
The £260 is of a machine I have recently built myself I don't have to give a quote to build a system to the value of £159.99 its called free speech im aloud to express an opinion if you take offence to my opinion that is fine but I have over 20 years expereince in the IT industry and build computers for a living. Below is an exmaple of a decent machine which would wipe the floor with a 2nd hand "e machine"

Product Quantity Price
----------------------------------------------------------
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600, Allendale C 1 £63.97
1GB Elixir Major, DDR2 PC2-5300 (66 2 £9.89
EZcool Internal Black All In One US 1 £6.99
Asus TA-861 Black Midi Tower Case 1 £15.99
320 GB Samsung HD321KJ Spinpoint T1 1 £27.19
Samsung TS-H492C/LEAH x52 CDRW x16 1 £5.99
Gigabyte GA-945GCM-S2L, i945GC, S77 1 £27.00
----------------------------------------------------------
Nett total £166.91
Carriage £0.00
VAT £29.21
Total £196.12

Yes this did not include an O/S buy you could put Ubuntu on it which would be fine for Internet usage and open office for word processing.

Thanks:whistling:


Whistle all you want holmes, No O/S, no dvd, no cigar.
#19
lol was about to say the same but also no mouse / keyboard :D
#20
I was gonna say good deal but then again its an emachines....
#21
why do some people find fault with people postings, after they have put some effort into it,and say that you can build a system for less than the posted price, when we all know that you can not, would it not be best to save their fingers some work and keep quiet.!!!!!!!!!!
#22
timothyw9
I was gonna say good deal but then again its an emachines....


Yes it is, but fortunately emachines dont make Intel processors, ECS Motherboards, HDD, RAM, DVD Writers etc...They would only source the case, Keyboard & mouse and PSU, and as previously mentioned the PSU would concern me and would think about changing it.
#23
steve187
why do some people find fault with people postings, after they have put some effort into it,and say that you can build a system for less than the posted price, when we all know that you can not, would it not be best to save their fingers some work and keep quiet.!!!!!!!!!!


I've voted it hot, its a good price, but not what i'd want to buy really.. it needs 2gb really at least and a decent gfx card + psu, upgrades would all make it more expensive than it is worth.
#24
The prices of PC's are magic nowadays eh... HOT
#25
That's a crackin price, good find OP..rep added
#26
I've personally got this PSU http://www.ebuyer.com/product/109466 - I've got it hooked up to my PCI-E graphics card, and while not an ideal solution does the job and a very reasonable price for a solidly build PSU
#27
Does this have a parallel port?

I need an upgrade and this could be the one provided it has.
#28
Joss
Does this have a parallel port?

I need an upgrade and this could be the one provided it has.


Read the first post after the OP. There's one parallel port there, good luck.
#29
That's a hot price and we all know it! Shame it's a refurb but on a budget for someone with a bit of pc knowledge it's a bargain!
#30
tsimehC
Read the first post after the OP. There's one parallel port there, good luck.


:thumbsup:
2 Likes #31
slinkydonkey
The £260 is of a machine I have recently built myself I don't have to give a quote to build a system to the value of £159.99 its called free speech im aloud to express an opinion if you take offence to my opinion that is fine but I have over 20 years expereince in the IT industry and build computers for a living. Below is an exmaple of a decent machine which would wipe the floor with a 2nd hand "e machine"

Product Quantity Price
----------------------------------------------------------
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600, Allendale C 1 £63.97
1GB Elixir Major, DDR2 PC2-5300 (66 2 £9.89
EZcool Internal Black All In One US 1 £6.99
Asus TA-861 Black Midi Tower Case 1 £15.99
320 GB Samsung HD321KJ Spinpoint T1 1 £27.19
Samsung TS-H492C/LEAH x52 CDRW x16 1 £5.99
Gigabyte GA-945GCM-S2L, i945GC, S77 1 £27.00
----------------------------------------------------------
Nett total £166.91
Carriage £0.00
VAT £29.21
Total £196.12

Yes this did not include an O/S buy you could put Ubuntu on it which would be fine for Internet usage and open office for word processing.

Thanks:whistling:


if thats the best you can do christ you maybe should forget the computer repairs buisness im a network admin and i could do way better.

This machine is great value everyweek scan has a FSP psu on today only down from £70 to around the £28 mark. The e4500 is a great cpu and are massive clockers but the bios wont allow this as for cheap ram that would have no affect on performance no dout its 667mhz i would just stick in another 1gig.

Elixir memory is nasty cheap rubbish and i personally wouldnt put a EZcool psu anywhere near my pc you moan about cheap kitt but the stuff you have speced is just as bad and id much rather have there 12 months warranty than yours and you say no O/S that you can use ubuntu. Linux isnt for the average joe they wont have a clue how to use it let alone intalling it and then what about the drivers for your printer you cant find linux in any variant is for somone who knows a bit and can be arsed this rig is aimed at the housewife with kids who want the internet without spending a fortune.

What you have speced is old stuff that chipset is old you could do way better like a G31 or G33 which will provide future proof features like support for 1066mhz memory an a 1600fsb.
#32
polly69
if thats the best you can do christ you maybe should forget the computer repairs buisness im a network admin and i could do way better.

This machine is great value everyweek scan has a FSP psu on today only down from £70 to around the £28 mark. The e4500 is a great cpu and are massive clockers but the bios wont allow this as for cheap ram that would have no affect on performance no dout its 667mhz i would just stick in another 1gig.

Elixir memory is nasty cheap rubbish and i personally wouldnt put a EZcool psu anywhere near my pc you moan about cheap kitt but the stuff you have speced is just as bad and id much rather have there 12 months warranty than yours and you say no O/S that you can use ubuntu linux isnt for the average joe they wont have a clue how to use it let alone intalling it and then what about the drivers for your printer you cant find linux in any variant is for somone who knows a bit and can be arsed this rig is aimed at the housewife with kids who want the internet without spending a fortune.


LOL you make me laugh maybe you sould stick to your networks you really have not a clue. All I said was ive fixed many computers and most of them seem to be emachines where the power supply has failed. What evidence do you have that 'EZcool psu ' is any worse than a FSP PSU ? perhaps you should provide the evidence before you try to rip into my post very childish. Given installing Ubuntu Linux is not for everyone but to say "they wont have a clue how to use it " is rubbish if all you want to do is surf the web its about as hard as double clicking on the firefox button! .. Elixir memory you say is cheap and you don't even know what RAM is in this machine talking about being a hypocrite. 12 months warranty than yours my what this was just an example most parts come with 12 months warranty!

Given its a ok price for a complete newbie but if you want a 2nd hand PC be better of looking on ebay
#33
Slinky you're just embarassing yourself. Give it up already!
#34
People stop flaming each other, just because you could build a system for a comparable price (but not a comparable spec i might add) doesn't make this deal cold. Yeah the power supply will probably be pants, but so are most of the ones that come in pre built cheap systems. This is not a bad spec for the price to use as a basic pc, and anyone that is looking at buying a pc for gaming wouldn't look twice at this system anyway! (Or your £196.12 system slinky..) :whistling:
#35
I'm not going to play top trumps about working in IT as I think a good deal of people here are. I'm just going to say it's a good spec for the price and a good find.
#36
drasim
I'm not going to play top trumps about working in IT as I think a good deal of people here are. I'm just going to say it's a good spec for the price and a good find.


My thoughts exactly..
#37
On the matter of the deal itself, I would be tempted to say that this Dell...

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&oc=D092004&dgc=AF&cid=5213&lid=122757

...might offer a nice alternative (its also pre-built, rather than faffing around building from scratch). CPU not so great but similarish overall spec and it is brand new. It should weigh in at £199.

Not cheaper, but not much more if people don't want the refurb.
#38
wizball
On the matter of the deal itself, I would be tempted to say that this Dell...

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&oc=D092004&dgc=AF&cid=5213&lid=122757

...might offer a nice alternative (its also pre-built, rather than faffing around building from scratch). CPU not so great but similarish overall spec and it is brand new. It should weigh in at £199.

Not cheaper, but not much more if people don't want the refurb.


Nice alternative Wizball, you've covered the processor issue and the rest weighs in quite well :thumbsup:
#39
sorry, due to demand, n o longer available
1 Like #40
I gotta agree with polly69 I'm afriad slinky. You were challenged on your original post to build the same PC for the money and couldn't as you missed some pretty vital components that are in the e-machine unit.

The fact it is a refurb is irrelevant. The warranty is exactly the same as it is if you bought it unopened - 1 year.

The fact the E4xxx is in the EOL cycle is irrelevant. We buy 10s of thousands of CPUs a month in the region and the Intel roadmap is two years live. If the processor is decent spec and value in line with the person's usage then that is all that matterss. Someone who wants the very latest processor, memory, motherboard and graphics card aint buing this though.

This is a good deal - plain and simple.

By all means have an opinion - but surely you can see you aren't comparing apples for apples

PS - Although I work for the largest hardware vendor in the world and have done through their last three names spanning two decades - does that make my opinion/view and less/more valid. Noone cares about it.

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