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A tough sell, Vauxhall dropped lift time warranty, so this model is has just 3 years of cover (its 2016....)!
They i10 and Suzuki Celerio seem to review better and the i10 has become the go to car for people looking for cheap durable transport that is well rated.
The smart money will be at the local Ford dealer over the coming months trying to see how low you can get a price on a Fiesta as its a decent car the new model is due out next year. The prices I am already seeing suggest Ford have got plenty to get rid of!
I'm curious what price you think these might drop down to? I'm after a Fiesta and might wait till next year if you think it's worth holding off?
You can never be sure but taking in to account....the new Fiesta carries over some engines and the chassis and the fact that Ford tend to over produce added to the fact that new car sales are slowing in the UK I expect dealers to be cutting the prices to keep up momentum.
At the moment the basic model lists at £13545 and Sheffield Ford will do it for £11289 cash or £10389 on finance I cant see why the basic models wont get down £9500 with haggle in a month or two.
Reflect that as a % across the range, expect a "bit" less (£200 - £300) for say a diesel, 5 door decent spec.
Ford will announce the NEW Fiesta tomorrow.
Quick question regarding cancelling finance within the cooling off period. Say if the car is £10000 cash or £9000 with finance with extra warranty extension thrown in. I agree with £9000 finance price, then I subsequently cancel the agreement within the cooling off period. Instead I pay off £9000 in cash and pay any interest payment due.
In this case, does the price revert back to £10000, and do I need to hand back the extra warranty extension? Has anyone got experience with this?

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From what I know of retail finance options the dealer doesn't really care what happens, they just get money for selling the product.

Most of them deals make you make you pay 1 months worth of payment then you can pay back the total outstanding amount. I don't know what happens if you cancel in the cooling off period, I would check the website for details on specific deals, the finance info t+c is usually on there too.
groenleader
meditatedmonk83
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A tough sell, Vauxhall dropped lift time warranty, so this model is has just 3 years of cover (its 2016....)!
They i10 and Suzuki Celerio seem to review better and the i10 has become the go to car for people looking for cheap durable transport that is well rated.
The smart money will be at the local Ford dealer over the coming months trying to see how low you can get a price on a Fiesta as its a decent car the new model is due out next year. The prices I am already seeing suggest Ford have got plenty to get rid of!
I'm curious what price you think these might drop down to? I'm after a Fiesta and might wait till next year if you think it's worth holding off?
You can never be sure but taking in to account....the new Fiesta carries over some engines and the chassis and the fact that Ford tend to over produce added to the fact that new car sales are slowing in the UK I expect dealers to be cutting the prices to keep up momentum.
At the moment the basic model lists at £13545 and Sheffield Ford will do it for £11289 cash or £10389 on finance I cant see why the basic models wont get down £9500 with haggle in a month or two.
Reflect that as a % across the range, expect a "bit" less (£200 - £300) for say a diesel, 5 door decent spec.
Ford will announce the NEW Fiesta tomorrow.

Quick question regarding cancelling finance within the cooling off period. Say if the car is £10000 cash or £9000 with finance with extra warranty extension thrown in. I agree with £9000 finance price, then I subsequently cancel the agreement within the cooling off period. Instead I pay off £9000 in cash and pay any interest payment due.
In this case, does the price revert back to £10000, and do I need to hand back the extra warranty extension? Has anyone got experience with this?
i'd advise the SL model if you like A/C, bluetooth and USB and half leather seats, as well as smarter alloys, but this is still a good price
haiderinho
i10 is made in India as well as the Suzuki Celerio. Both are better cars but both cost neared £10k. This is not a bad car for the price.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_i10#Second_generation_.282013.E2.80.93present.29
It certainly used to be India for the old i10, the difference in build quality to the turkish built i20 was obvious. Sounds like Hyundai also saw the difference and moved production of the i10.
http://www.richmondmotorgroup.com/i10-offer.aspx

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65 Plate Vauxhall Antara 2.2 Diesel Exclusive £13,995.00 (£21,650 list) Up to £6K interest free finance. @ Peter Vardy

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Not sure how this will go down but this is a hell of a big car for the money. Not the best reviews, not the best economy but this is a full size SUV for Super Mini pricing. You can finance £6K on in…
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As far as I can tell I seem to be averaging about 42MPG, I am happy with that for a 2000kg car, especially as over the half of the miles were at shall we say at a brisk pace down the motorway. ;)
Should get better as the engine loosens up over the next few thousand miles.

I am sure now most of the horror stories have been from short journey driving.
soldierboy001
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joeann1
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I'd advice you to never buy one of these! Absolute pieces of junk!
Just today my power steering has gone! I got it new it's a 62 plate. I've had nothing but bother with it and as for fuel consumption it's totally sh**e.
Mine is the 2.2 4x4
Totally agree,i get about 22mpg driving in town Avoid at all costs !!
Get a 2.2 Diesel pulling a big lump like this car is around town on short journeys and 22mpg is to be expected.
So how come a ford kuga 2.0 4wd does 40mpg around town!!
Can YOU get 40mpg in a Kuga doing the exact same driving as you would've done in the Vauxhall?
2 different people on 2 different routes, the variables are huge (driving style, congestion, length of journey, Ambient temp and humidity, how full/heavy the car is etc.). I used to have a Golf GTD. I'd generally get 47mpg average, on my 12 mile commute, my mate on his 40 mile commute got 56mpg in his.
Diesels with standard stop-start will generally only see 80% of published combined figure if on a decent run. Diesels need time to warm up. Driving my GTD on relatively uncluttered roads in the Summer I would see the following:-
5 mile journey = 35mpg
10 mile journey = 45mpg
20 mile journey = 50mpg
50 mile journey = 55mpg
>100 miles maintaining 80mph on the motorway = 59mpg
Knock 5mpg off those figures in the winter, and if you're perpetually stuck in traffic your mpg will get hammered.
My wife has an A1 1.6TDI (116PS), I can take it to work on my 20 mile each way commute and generally get 59mpg driving it quite hard, it is usually a 35 minute journey. One day last week I hit a fair bit of traffic that turned it into a 1 hour journey, and the mpg dropped to 42mpg for the journey.
Add short journey regular congested city driving into the mix and then your DPF filling up rapidly as it doesn't get the opportunity to burn it off in a passive regen and you can see your mpg plummet.
My Golf R is half the mpg that the A1 is when on an uncluttered road, but 3/4 of it when driving in congestion. If I was shuffling through the city on a regular basis, i'd probably be after a small displacement turbo petrol engine.
Why do you get different MPG on 20 mile journey and 50 mile journey?
Don't you, if driving a car with a diesel engine? The diesel engine is very inefficient when cold, as it warms up the mpg improves. It will peak at about 20 miles, but all that means is that the further you drive it in a journey, the more diluted the effect of the early poor mpg in the journey.
Take for example my old GTD, not the exact figures, but you see the accumulative effect of mpg as the car warms up:-
First 5 miles, it is doing 35mpg, so in the first 5 miles it has consumed 0.143 gallons
Next 5 miles it averages 50mpg, so in miles 5-10 it has consumed 0.100 gallons, but over the 10 miles it has consumed 0.243 gallons and averaged 41mpg.
Next 5 miles it averages 55mpg, so in miles 10-15 it has consumed 0.091 gallons, but over the 15 miles it has consumed 0.334 gallons and averaged 45mpg.
Next 5 miles it averages 60mpg, so in miles 15-20 it has consumed 0.083 gallons, but over the 20 miles it has consumed 0.417 gallons and averaged 48mpg.
And so on..... Do a 200 mile journey and those first 20 miles at an average of 48mpg have very little effect on the overall mpg when 180 of those miles were done at maximum efficiency of 60mpg - getting you very close to a 60mpg average.
My workings were based on you getting maximum efficiency after 5 miles as I have never had a modern diesel that had not warmed up after 5 miles and I got
10 miles = 45MPG
20 miles = 54MPG
50 miles = 57.5 MPG
That is why I queried your figures.
Perhaps slightly older diesels, the most up to date ones take a long time to warm up in comparison as the heat generated by the engine is being diverted to warming up the DPF as quickly as possible, especially EU6 compliant ones. My Scirocco 170TDI warmed up much quicker than my MK7 GTD - at least 8 miles in the summer before my oil was up to 90C on the GTD, 10 miles in the winter.
Maybe that is peculiar to Volkswagen because they are to busy warming up the emission fiddle electronics.

Nope, my mate's company Merc A200 diesel is the same - EU6 variants take a lot longer to warm up than their EU5 predecessors. The current EU6 compliant VW TDI engines are not under suspicion - the EU5 ones are affected, like those seen on MK6 Golfs or my old 2011 Scircco 170TDI. My GTD took a lot longer to warm up than the Scirocco. One of my mates has a 2011 A4 2.0TDI 136ps (they squeezed it into the £30 tax disc bracket at that output) and he got his recall notice yesterday.

Outside gridlocked cities NOx disperses quite quickly, i'd be more concerned with getting the old pre-DPF diesels off the road. Saying that, my Golf R's tailpipes get quite sooty whereas the wife's A1 1.6TDI has an immaculately clean tailpipe - guess which one is throwing out more particulates?
Excellent deal for the vehicle compared to rival offers on the market
monkeyhanger75
soldierboy001
monkeyhanger75
soldierboy001
monkeyhanger75
joeann1
monkeyhanger75
joeann1
carole682
I'd advice you to never buy one of these! Absolute pieces of junk!
Just today my power steering has gone! I got it new it's a 62 plate. I've had nothing but bother with it and as for fuel consumption it's totally sh**e.
Mine is the 2.2 4x4
Totally agree,i get about 22mpg driving in town Avoid at all costs !!
Get a 2.2 Diesel pulling a big lump like this car is around town on short journeys and 22mpg is to be expected.
So how come a ford kuga 2.0 4wd does 40mpg around town!!
Can YOU get 40mpg in a Kuga doing the exact same driving as you would've done in the Vauxhall?
2 different people on 2 different routes, the variables are huge (driving style, congestion, length of journey, Ambient temp and humidity, how full/heavy the car is etc.). I used to have a Golf GTD. I'd generally get 47mpg average, on my 12 mile commute, my mate on his 40 mile commute got 56mpg in his.
Diesels with standard stop-start will generally only see 80% of published combined figure if on a decent run. Diesels need time to warm up. Driving my GTD on relatively uncluttered roads in the Summer I would see the following:-
5 mile journey = 35mpg
10 mile journey = 45mpg
20 mile journey = 50mpg
50 mile journey = 55mpg
>100 miles maintaining 80mph on the motorway = 59mpg
Knock 5mpg off those figures in the winter, and if you're perpetually stuck in traffic your mpg will get hammered.
My wife has an A1 1.6TDI (116PS), I can take it to work on my 20 mile each way commute and generally get 59mpg driving it quite hard, it is usually a 35 minute journey. One day last week I hit a fair bit of traffic that turned it into a 1 hour journey, and the mpg dropped to 42mpg for the journey.
Add short journey regular congested city driving into the mix and then your DPF filling up rapidly as it doesn't get the opportunity to burn it off in a passive regen and you can see your mpg plummet.
My Golf R is half the mpg that the A1 is when on an uncluttered road, but 3/4 of it when driving in congestion. If I was shuffling through the city on a regular basis, i'd probably be after a small displacement turbo petrol engine.
Why do you get different MPG on 20 mile journey and 50 mile journey?
Don't you, if driving a car with a diesel engine? The diesel engine is very inefficient when cold, as it warms up the mpg improves. It will peak at about 20 miles, but all that means is that the further you drive it in a journey, the more diluted the effect of the early poor mpg in the journey.
Take for example my old GTD, not the exact figures, but you see the accumulative effect of mpg as the car warms up:-
First 5 miles, it is doing 35mpg, so in the first 5 miles it has consumed 0.143 gallons
Next 5 miles it averages 50mpg, so in miles 5-10 it has consumed 0.100 gallons, but over the 10 miles it has consumed 0.243 gallons and averaged 41mpg.
Next 5 miles it averages 55mpg, so in miles 10-15 it has consumed 0.091 gallons, but over the 15 miles it has consumed 0.334 gallons and averaged 45mpg.
Next 5 miles it averages 60mpg, so in miles 15-20 it has consumed 0.083 gallons, but over the 20 miles it has consumed 0.417 gallons and averaged 48mpg.
And so on..... Do a 200 mile journey and those first 20 miles at an average of 48mpg have very little effect on the overall mpg when 180 of those miles were done at maximum efficiency of 60mpg - getting you very close to a 60mpg average.
My workings were based on you getting maximum efficiency after 5 miles as I have never had a modern diesel that had not warmed up after 5 miles and I got
10 miles = 45MPG
20 miles = 54MPG
50 miles = 57.5 MPG
That is why I queried your figures.
Perhaps slightly older diesels, the most up to date ones take a long time to warm up in comparison as the heat generated by the engine is being diverted to warming up the DPF as quickly as possible, especially EU6 compliant ones. My Scirocco 170TDI warmed up much quicker than my MK7 GTD - at least 8 miles in the summer before my oil was up to 90C on the GTD, 10 miles in the winter.


Maybe that is peculiar to Volkswagen because they are to busy warming up the emission fiddle electronics.
soldierboy001
monkeyhanger75
soldierboy001
monkeyhanger75
joeann1
monkeyhanger75
joeann1
carole682
I'd advice you to never buy one of these! Absolute pieces of junk!
Just today my power steering has gone! I got it new it's a 62 plate. I've had nothing but bother with it and as for fuel consumption it's totally sh**e.
Mine is the 2.2 4x4
Totally agree,i get about 22mpg driving in town Avoid at all costs !!
Get a 2.2 Diesel pulling a big lump like this car is around town on short journeys and 22mpg is to be expected.
So how come a ford kuga 2.0 4wd does 40mpg around town!!
Can YOU get 40mpg in a Kuga doing the exact same driving as you would've done in the Vauxhall?
2 different people on 2 different routes, the variables are huge (driving style, congestion, length of journey, Ambient temp and humidity, how full/heavy the car is etc.). I used to have a Golf GTD. I'd generally get 47mpg average, on my 12 mile commute, my mate on his 40 mile commute got 56mpg in his.
Diesels with standard stop-start will generally only see 80% of published combined figure if on a decent run. Diesels need time to warm up. Driving my GTD on relatively uncluttered roads in the Summer I would see the following:-
5 mile journey = 35mpg
10 mile journey = 45mpg
20 mile journey = 50mpg
50 mile journey = 55mpg
>100 miles maintaining 80mph on the motorway = 59mpg
Knock 5mpg off those figures in the winter, and if you're perpetually stuck in traffic your mpg will get hammered.
My wife has an A1 1.6TDI (116PS), I can take it to work on my 20 mile each way commute and generally get 59mpg driving it quite hard, it is usually a 35 minute journey. One day last week I hit a fair bit of traffic that turned it into a 1 hour journey, and the mpg dropped to 42mpg for the journey.
Add short journey regular congested city driving into the mix and then your DPF filling up rapidly as it doesn't get the opportunity to burn it off in a passive regen and you can see your mpg plummet.
My Golf R is half the mpg that the A1 is when on an uncluttered road, but 3/4 of it when driving in congestion. If I was shuffling through the city on a regular basis, i'd probably be after a small displacement turbo petrol engine.
Why do you get different MPG on 20 mile journey and 50 mile journey?
Don't you, if driving a car with a diesel engine? The diesel engine is very inefficient when cold, as it warms up the mpg improves. It will peak at about 20 miles, but all that means is that the further you drive it in a journey, the more diluted the effect of the early poor mpg in the journey.
Take for example my old GTD, not the exact figures, but you see the accumulative effect of mpg as the car warms up:-
First 5 miles, it is doing 35mpg, so in the first 5 miles it has consumed 0.143 gallons
Next 5 miles it averages 50mpg, so in miles 5-10 it has consumed 0.100 gallons, but over the 10 miles it has consumed 0.243 gallons and averaged 41mpg.
Next 5 miles it averages 55mpg, so in miles 10-15 it has consumed 0.091 gallons, but over the 15 miles it has consumed 0.334 gallons and averaged 45mpg.
Next 5 miles it averages 60mpg, so in miles 15-20 it has consumed 0.083 gallons, but over the 20 miles it has consumed 0.417 gallons and averaged 48mpg.
And so on..... Do a 200 mile journey and those first 20 miles at an average of 48mpg have very little effect on the overall mpg when 180 of those miles were done at maximum efficiency of 60mpg - getting you very close to a 60mpg average.
My workings were based on you getting maximum efficiency after 5 miles as I have never had a modern diesel that had not warmed up after 5 miles and I got
10 miles = 45MPG
20 miles = 54MPG
50 miles = 57.5 MPG
That is why I queried your figures.

Perhaps slightly older diesels, the most up to date ones take a long time to warm up in comparison as the heat generated by the engine is being diverted to warming up the DPF as quickly as possible, especially EU6 compliant ones. My Scirocco 170TDI warmed up much quicker than my MK7 GTD - at least 8 miles in the summer before my oil was up to 90C on the GTD, 10 miles in the winter.
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Corsa for £7,999.00 @ petervardy

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This deal seems to be everywhere online right now, I keep seeing it - having looked around it does appear to be cheaper than Arnold Clark, Evans Halshaw and Pentagon. So welldone to Peter Vardy for ha…
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Cheapest is not always best, does everyone buy the cheapest mobile phone and tariff?

I prefer 20 mpg and £270 tax.


Edited By: TheBiker on Oct 09, 2013 21:24
D4VPC
What about the £7496 one that was posted earlier?

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/brand-new-vauxhall-corsa-hatchback-1-0-ecoflex-s-3dr-7496-a-saving-4-196-drive-vauxhall-1676145

As has been said, this is cheaper
What about the £7496 one that was posted earlier?
Yes you're right the corsa is a "cheap" car.
I prefer something inexpensive myself.
Heated as if you're buying this model anyway then why pay more?
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The Vauxhall ADAM for £33.99 per week from Peter Vardys! £7,876.02

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I've been looking around for a cheap city car for my daughter for ages now and think I might have finally found something that she AND my wallet might like!! We went and saw one last weekend at
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Vauxhall is atrocious period. Tried to tell me that my brake calipers seizing after 10K miles was down to dirt & debris picked up from the road![/quote]
Having driven an Insignia for three years and now an Astra GTC, I can only offer praise to the Vauxhall dealer network. Cartainly as good, if not better than my experience in the past with Audi or VW.
Snomaes
Residual values for Vauxhall are atrocious and this model is not likely to be any better.


Vauxhall is atrocious period. Tried to tell me that my brake calipers seizing after 10K miles was down to dirt & debris picked up from the road!
Residual values for Vauxhall are atrocious and this model is not likely to be any better.
squillion
£858 Deposit
£29.99 / week for 3 months
£33.99 / week for 45 months

Assume 52 weeks x 4 = 208

£29.99 x 13 = £389.97
£33.99 x 195 = ££6628.05

Total for 4 years = £7876.02 = average £37.87 / week

You should put this in the title.
I think you are correct that the title is wrong but it should be the total payable, like a phone contract. Also, the site shows that the "3 months" is 11 weekly payments not 13 therefore your average is out by a small margin.
or 36.99 for 5 years with a £1000 px allowance and £750 deposit and the cars yours??
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Car Service from £49.99 in Scotland with Peter Vardy

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Peter Vardy are offering a car service - £49.99 for petrol or £59.99 for diesel cars on Facebook. Saving 44% on the usual service cost. Seems like a bargain, especially since Kwik Fits is £79.99.
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these deals are ok but there is a lot of checking and then a lot of extra charges as they convince you unnessacary works need doing.

Surely this applies to any garage. You are always at the mercy of conmen in the motor trade unless you are best buddies with the mechanic, or you are mechanically savvy. I am mechanically savvy so I am happy to get a good deal on the oil and filter change, and the stamp in the book, so works for me.
I sound like some sort of apologist for Peter Vardy, but to be fair, I have used the Motherwell branch for 4 MOT tests over past 12 months and experienced absolutely no grief, and a very professional service.
However, would I buy a car from them? Absolutely no chance. No prices on adverts, or car windscreens in showroom, only an array of absolutely bamboozling figures. Bought a few Vauxhalls over the past few years, Peter Vardy were never able to compete with Evans Halshaw and Arnold Clark when it came to the nitty gritty of the deal.

Edited By: banerama on Oct 22, 2012 19:05
these deals are ok but there is a lot of checking and then a lot of extra charges as they convince you unnessacary works need doing.
mjccam
wouldn't trust my car with them, you will almost certainly pay more than the £49.00

Yes you are correct. I'll be paying £69.99, as quoted in the offer, for the wife's 4 year old DIESEL Corsa. Seems okay to me as you get the service book stamped. Just had both our cars MOT tested for £19.50 each. Both passed no bother. No attempt to offer quote to repair on the couple of advisories on my 9 year-old car.
I generally do my own servicing when car is out of warranty period. This offer is worth it due to cost of oil and service book stamp. Plan to sell the wife's Corsa sometime soon, so service history can help to get a few quid more for the car.
wouldn't trust my car with them, you will almost certainly pay more than the £49.00
Great word 'from'. I wonder how many people would actually get this for £49.99?
The Facebook site links you to this page - if you get a courtesy car too for £49.99 this is a great deal.

http://www.petervardy.com/upload/tinymce/2012_Mar/VX000492_Vardy_Car_05.03.12.jpg


Edited By: G0OSE on Oct 21, 2012 19:23
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BMW 116 ED just £268.00 Per Month 3.9% from Peter Vardy BMW

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Been looking around for an efficient little diesel which I decent to drive and the 116 ED is coming out on top at every hurdle. Looking at the Scottish BMW dealers, Peter Vardy in Edinburgh curr…
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freebiehunter
I've owned a couple of petrol 1 series, both were fun cars to drive - excellent handling and good driving position, but the fuel economy was terrible. Then I forgot about fuel and i've owned two 5 series since :)
Why not a diesel? Too many urban miles?

Well when I purchased the 1 series (both new - 1 in 2006 116i and 1 in 2008 revised 116i), on paper the petrol engines should have been quite economical but that just wasn't the case and was the only thing I could say that I wasn't impressed with. Yeah I've had diesels since then, currently a 530d
I've owned a couple of petrol 1 series, both were fun cars to drive - excellent handling and good driving position, but the fuel economy was terrible. Then I forgot about fuel and i've owned two 5 series since :)
snatch_master
For ipad wielding mini drivers with no sense of value for money

Would you care to share what your sense dictates what is better value for money then or are you just going to make a ridiculous statement, with no justification?
rbrookes
cruisecars
foul looking ?? very strange....

rbrookes
What a foul looking little car....people must buy it for the badge....


BM12
rbrookes
What a foul looking little car....people must buy it for the badge....

That's it keep convincing yourself that your Citroen Saxo is a better car :p

Hideous to drive as well. A one year old 3 series is a far better buy. Better looking, more comfortable, better handling, more room and it doesn't look like it's been shunted from behind.....

I've owned two 1 Series' before and now own a 1 year old 3 Series Coupe.

Better looking? Yes I guess so but it comes at a higher price. It will cost more than a new 1 series and because of the weight and chassis size a smaller engine will be gutless in a 3 series chassis, where as it will be perfectly fine in a 1 series one.

More comfortable/more room? The seats are actually the same part numbers on both. Yes the cabin is smaller but its a totally different market - one (the 3 Series) is a family saloon/sports coupe. The other (1 Series) is a hatchback.
cruisecars
foul looking ?? very strange....

rbrookes
What a foul looking little car....people must buy it for the badge....


BM12
rbrookes
What a foul looking little car....people must buy it for the badge....

That's it keep convincing yourself that your Citroen Saxo is a better car :p

Hideous to drive as well. A one year old 3 series is a far better buy. Better looking, more comfortable, better handling, more room and it doesn't look like it's been shunted from behind.....
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Corsa 1.0 S from Peter Vardy only £29.99 p/w or £129/month

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Peter Vardy's have emailed me again, this time about the new 62 Plate offers. The Corsa 1.0 looks like a brilliant deal with No Deposit and it sounds like they have free insurance available on some of…
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Funny that the vardy family is all religious nuts but when it comes to money they don't mind selling their soul to Satan!

COLD
I think these are great deals - again if you meet their conditions (I'm sure it is the Vauxhall Partners companies you have the work or know someone who works for them)
Also when I inquired about these deals it is only if want that car, no upgrades, no changes at all. I couldn't trade in a car that still had finance on it either. Then it went straight onto their not 0% finance.

In the end I ended up at Evans Halshaw and got the car I wanted all in for less.

Some of my workmates have bought Peter's cars and swear by them.........like it has been said before - a good deal if you can get it.

Assuming there are around 17 weeks left the car works out at £158.31 per month over the 5 years

(5years = 260weeks
[email protected] = £509.83
[email protected] = £8988.57
Total Price = £9498.40
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Payable over 60 months = £158.31)

Arnold Clark (from OP [email protected]% = £149.92 per month
Trade-in your old car an Evans Halshaw works out at £127.08 per month - (I think they need the partners thing too though)

Peter's and Arnold Clark will be different dependent on trade in though cos Evans Halshaw list the car at £11,625 with a £4000 min trade-in


Edited By: cau96176 on Aug 24, 2012 22:35: added calculations and alternatives
cadmus
JoeBoy88
These deals never work.

I know people who have tried and failed there are loads of T&Cs to meet.
can you explain please as i thought it was a good deal but not sure now oO

My Antie went to get this deal last year on a 61 plate, She needed to work for a certain company and have a few other T&C's.

I would recommend calling them to go through the whole issue. It was actually a pain and nowhere near the same as the price advertised.

She ended up buying one from Arnold Clark on finance and It worked out much cheaper than Peter Vardy.
JoeBoy88
These deals never work.

I know people who have tried and failed there are loads of T&Cs to meet.
can you explain please as i thought it was a good deal but not sure now oO
Luckily there is still plenty of easy pray for them
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Astra 1.7 Diesel Sports Tourer £12,499.00 @ Peter Vardy

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Vardy's have just emailed me about yet another huge UK exclusive offer. The Astra with a list price of £20,000 is for sale with delivery mileage at 38% off. Following my own quick web search of t…
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Joey Bloggsy
talkshop
Over 50% of the OPS 'deals' are for Vauxhall cars.

Self Promotion

Cold

Who cares if the price is right, unless he owns Vauxhall

Probably works for the dealership, which is therefore spam.

Think probably you are right. Profile
oddballjamie
Ike
if you can wait you could get a better deal on a superior marque here.
A renault lol


And it'll cost you far more han the 10K quoted to get it anywhere near the spec of the Astra.
Probably the 109BHP made by Isuzu, rather than the 123BHP. Getting on a bit in terms of design and refinment so I read.

Best avoided new and as above there will be extras, wait a year and they'll be sub 9K with 12K on the clock.
Tom Pickering
"Astra list price of £20,000"

Who the hell is going to pay list price for a Astra?



Or any Vauxhall, ..(_;)
RuudBullit
oddballjamie
futura
Good deal but dont buy one if you tend to do shorter journeys as the particulate filters are a bleeding nightmare (not to mention expensive)!
Good advice. Garages have to advise people now not to buy diesels for the same reason, less than 12,000 a year or short journeys has to be petrol.

what a load of ****. i've had this as a company car for 2 years and never had an issue. i do journeys every day which range between 5 and 80 miles. this is an excellent little motor. i drove to the south of france in it as well last year. and for the people saying its gutless, it isn't gutless at all, but if you want a boy racer car, don't buy a 1.7 diesel!!


Huh? You do lots of miles, therefore no problems. The post was about people buying diesels just to drive to the shops or take the kids to school a mile down the road.
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Vauxhall Combo Van for £7,490.00+vat Peter Vardy

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Got an email about this the other day and thought it was worth sharing! Vardy's are offering the Brand New Vauxhall Combo SE with a huge saving of 44% - It is the old model but its still a great workh…
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Nearly New Corsa for £7,997.00 from Peter Vardy

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I posted a Corsa deal from Peter Vardy a few weeks ago because it sounded so good, but then I got an email about this Corsa. Its got Alloy Wheels AND Heated Seats! The spec is higher and its not on a
gmanson70 Avatar5y, 19h agoFound 5 years, 19 hours ago16 Comments
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They've done this for a while with other cars. When you go in it is 'from' this price which turns out to be higher mileage cars.
SIR Peter Vardy's son, Reg Vardy's grandson.
Tunner
Less than half price. Great deal.


LOL name me one person who has ever paid over 15K for a 1.4 Corsa
Less than half price. Great deal.
Carbon dioxide emissions (g/km): 138

Not the best but could be better for a small hatchback
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Brand new Corsa S for £29.99 per week from Peter Vardy

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This looks like one of the cheapest New Corsa deals around at the moment. Beats the other main dealers by a fair bit. The price appears to include the "loyalty discount" but even without that its…
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Misleading post, this car is not available @ £29.99 per week.


What makes this a misleading post? I have just read the terms and conditions and it certainly is available.
Misleading post, this car is not available @ £29.99 per week.
solonely
soweezy
in the small print...
Admin fee £299 on finance exceeding 48 months.


and this is a 60 month deal oO


Yes but is not too bad ,over 5 yrs it makes it £1.60p a week extra .:|


not too bad ? oO

it's £300 for doing no more than they would for FREE for 48 months finance
pstuart
Keep a Corsa for 5 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


stranger things have happened.

just wondering are there any more of these types of dealers that deliver nationwide?

been looking at carquake,drive the deals, motorpoint, but the actual dealers in the first two, bump up the price by loads when you make contact (you have to upgrade metallic paint, the basic model isnt in stock etc etc)
soweezy
in the small print...
Admin fee £299 on finance exceeding 48 months.

and this is a 60 month deal oO

Yes but is not too bad ,over 5 yrs it makes it £1.60p a week extra .:|
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Vauxhall Astra SRi Sporthatch 1.6 SRi brand new £8,999.00 @ petervardy

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Astra SRi Sporthatch 1.6 SRi The UK's best Astra deals. Save over £9000 on cost new! This amazing offer on a brand new Astra Sportshatch 1.6 SRi gives you incredible specification and n…
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It is an over priced, poorly made, piece of junk.

Compared to what exactly?



Almost every other car manufacturer on this planet.

What do you drive and how old is it?
quakerphil
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It is an over priced, poorly made, piece of junk.


Compared to what exactly?



Almost every other car manufacturer on this planet.
shootyz
Went to the Aberdeen dealership today and funnily enough it's not quite what it seems........ the lowest offer I got was £10674, this was taking off all the extra insurance, paint protection etc costs but included £700 delivery charge ,mats -£35, admin fee £? and £495 for Metalic paint.

It also included partner discount ( Unison ) and a measly £150 trade in for my Y reg Fiesta ( some may say a good offer? ). The £8999 price would be applicable if I had a Vauxhall to trade in I believe, there was a mention of an extra £1000 due to this I think but it was a bit confusing to tell you the truth?

Did a test drive of the Design 1.6 model which has the same engine I believe and its an inoffensive easy car to drive, nothing to thrilling but would do the job well enough.

Usual "what price would make you do a deal today sir?" but walked way to think it over..... £9999 may be ok but I may be being hoodwinked!

Oh to mention this was a 5 year 0% offer, around £220 a month if I recall, no prints out of the deal I'm afraid..

J


Any idea what the scrappy pays for a car just now? Can't be a lot less than £150.
My current car is even older, R-reg Seat Ibiza.
I bought it new from Anderson Cars (yes, I know).
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It is an over priced, poorly made, piece of junk.

Compared to what exactly?
Went to the Aberdeen dealership today and funnily enough it's not quite what it seems........ the lowest offer I got was £10674, this was taking off all the extra insurance, paint protection etc costs but included £700 delivery charge ,mats -£35, admin fee £? and £495 for Metalic paint.

It also included partner discount ( Unison ) and a measly £150 trade in for my Y reg Fiesta ( some may say a good offer? ). The £8999 price would be applicable if I had a Vauxhall to trade in I believe, there was a mention of an extra £1000 due to this I think but it was a bit confusing to tell you the truth?

Did a test drive of the Design 1.6 model which has the same engine I believe and its an inoffensive easy car to drive, nothing to thrilling but would do the job well enough.

Usual "what price would make you do a deal today sir?" but walked way to think it over..... £9999 may be ok but I may be being hoodwinked!

Oh to mention this was a 5 year 0% offer, around £220 a month if I recall, no prints out of the deal I'm afraid..

J
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Vauxhall Meriva Life - From £6,499 @ Peter Vardy (with Swappage & Vauxhall Partners scheme) £6,499.00

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If you missed the scrappage, take a look at this. Meriva 1.4i Life The UK's best deals, thanks to Peter Vardy Vauxhall! From Only £6,499* Or Just £32 a Week! Free lifetime warranty
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Got one of these for my father in law - got it without finance, cash deal (+ road tax) - all in all a stonking bargain for someone who likes Merivas (my FIL). Brand new 60 plate (first owner) full Vx warranty etc.
You: OK, can I purchase this car for 6499 cash + 7 year old part-ex? Or is it dependent on a finance scheme?


Reading small print, the lifetime 100000 mile warranty is dependant on the finance (EDIT - its the 3 years free servicing, not the warranty)

Free Servicing offer is valid for 3 years and is avaliable only on a 4 to 5 year finance package, applies to the vehicle and is non-transferrable.


Not a deal breaker for me but may be for others.



Edited By: Johnboy_1975 on Nov 01, 2010 17:59: edit
Up to 55.4 mpg


Yeah, downhill in neutral maybe.
Looks like a cracking deal. Especially with the 'lifetime' warranty.
Thought this would be useful for some. Also, reading the small print, the scrappage car needs to be owned by you for 90 days or more.

Iain at Peter Vardy: Hello, How may I help you?
You: Hi - what is required to obtain a Meriva at 6499?
You: Sounds too good to be true
Iain at Peter Vardy: it includes swappage and partners
You: So is it dependent on the value of the part-ex vehicle?
Iain at Peter Vardy: you must have a car 7 years or older
You: of any value?
Iain at Peter Vardy: if it 7 years or olderr then you qualify also you must qualify for partners scheme
You: what are the qualification criteria?
Iain at Peter Vardy: you or a family member must work for GM or certain large UK companies or be a member of Unison
You: Ah, so HM Forces not likely to be eligible.
Iain at Peter Vardy: you would qualify then
You: So literally, 7 year old car in part-ex of any value, and the fact that I'm HM Forces would be sufficient for me to purchase a Meriva for 6499 in cash? Is that owned outright or lease scheme?
You: Sorry for the scepticism - it seems like a very good deal.
Iain at Peter Vardy: thats ok you would qualify for that price where do you live
You: Near Dundee.
Iain at Peter Vardy: your closet branch is Perth
You: Is that owned outright or is it a lease scheme?
Iain at Peter Vardy: you can finance it various ways
You: But I could just pay cash, bring a 7 year old car in part ex and pay 6499 or is the price conditional on a finance scheme?
Iain at Peter Vardy: no but if you want a metallic colour it would be 549 more
You: sorry - what was the no in respect of?
Iain at Peter Vardy: what do you mean
You: OK, can I purchase this car for 6499 cash + 7 year old part-ex? Or is it dependent on a finance scheme?
Iain at Peter Vardy: yes you can no finance required
You: ok, thank you!
Iain at Peter Vardy: your welcome
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09 Plate Vauxhall Insignia S 4door from £8,999.00 @ PeterVardy

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The specification of this vehicle includes: Air Conditioning Leather-covered Steering Wheel Cruise Control CD with MP3-input Electric Windows Heated Door Mirrors
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phatbhoy;8906512
Thanks for that. I had been considering buying a Zafira - they get good reviews too!

If you want a people carrier then I would recommend one of the Toyota's. I have had 4 Yaris' in the last six years. Customer service from dealer and manufacturer is superb. When I purchased my new one at the end of march I cheekily wrote a letter to Toyota asking for either the 30000 miles free servicing or the 5 year warranty that I heard on the radio a few days after taking delivery. Got a phone call from the dealer within a few days asking which one I would like. They didn't even have to offer any as I purchased mine before the offer kicked in. I would certainly recommend Toyota to anyone. A 7 seat toyota will certainly be my wifes next car now after the Vauxhall shananigans.
oil leaks electrical problems they catch fire........the list goes on and on
adamrwood;8905256
Vauxhall as a manufacturers customer service is also abysmal. My wife has a Zafira. Rust has appeared on the boot after just over 3 years old. They have agreed to repair it if I have an anti-corrosion inspection done at the cost of £40+vat. This is although the inspection was done in years 1 and 2 of its life and they only need to be done every 2 years anyway (according to the warranty book) so shouldn't need to be done until 4 years old. Wrote a letter to Vauxhall (UK) and they said the area managers decision is final. I will never buy vauxhall again.


Thanks for that. I had been considering buying a Zafira - they get good reviews too!
phatbhoy;8902655
Hardly

From Top Gear [COLOR=red]"The Vectra is dead, long live the Insignia. Vauxhall’s back on form with this tech-laden, swoopy Mondeo rival – in fact, it’s so good that we made it our Exec Car of the Year."[/COLOR]

Vauxhall as a manufacturers customer service is also abysmal. My wife has a Zafira. Rust has appeared on the boot after just over 3 years old. They have agreed to repair it if I have an anti-corrosion inspection done at the cost of £40+vat. This is although the inspection was done in years 1 and 2 of its life and they only need to be done every 2 years anyway (according to the warranty book) so shouldn't need to be done until 4 years old. Wrote a letter to Vauxhall (UK) and they said the area managers decision is final. I will never buy vauxhall again.
phatbhoy;8902655
Hardly

From Top Gear [COLOR="Red"]"The Vectra is dead, long live the Insignia. Vauxhall’s back on form with this tech-laden, swoopy Mondeo rival – in fact, it’s so good that we made it our Exec Car of the Year."[/COLOR]


whilst my vectra was in for some work i sat in one of the new insignias, seemed very cramped to me dunno how clarkson got in one..
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Brand New Corsa Sxi 3 door £6,499.00 with scrappage & * save £5936 @ Peter Vardy

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Gonna buy one of these - what an amazing price........the old Punto is a gonna ;-) Brand New Corsa SXi Scrappage price from only £6499!!! Non Scrappage price from only £8499!!! *Prices Inc…
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Was considering but they have banged £500 onto the price :x
Kiltox;7701226
Ahhh okay - *******s :)

I assume having AC would add a large amount to the £6499 in which case this isn't exactly a great deal.


£500 notes.

The wife wasn't fussed about A/C so it wasn't an issue.
Arbk66;7700227
Like the Club Kiltox there is an sxi (a/c) version as well so your not way off :thumbsup:


There is indeed, but it isn't the one in this so called offer.;-)
Arbk66;7700227
Like the Club Kiltox there is an sxi (a/c) version as well so your not way off :thumbsup:


Ahhh okay - *******s :)

I assume having AC would add a large amount to the £6499 in which case this isn't exactly a great deal.
Kiltox;7699729
I stand corrected - that's ridiculous.

I really thought the only Corsas that didn't come with AC were the Life and Club (excluding the Club A/C, obviously)


Like the Club Kiltox there is an sxi (a/c) version as well so your not way off :thumbsup:
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Astra 1.4 with Air Con £7,499.00 scrappage, £8999 without @ Peter Vardy

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59 Plate Astra Hatchback 5dr Scrappage Offer From Only £7,499 SAVING YOU £8866!!! NON SCRAPPAGE PRICE £8999!!! No Deposit, Nothing to Pay Till 2010! Save your money for christmas with this fa…
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is their scrappage deal on 10+ years? my car was registered in March 01 (Y reg).

I know some places are dong scrappage on years and older.
piratematt;6864711
I phoned them up about those pre-registered ones.
They didn't exist - they were a mistake on their system (or least they said - even though I pointed out that autotrader also had links to the cars...) - they were the fleet cars the sales guys were now all driving round in; which had arrived in September. The guy actually laughed at me on the phone and said there was absolutely no chance they would be selling pre-registered Astra's at that price to the public


That explains it, I thought they were a bit too cheap!
J400uk;6863629
Evans Halsaw briefly offered the same car for £7750 cash (no scrappage) but I think they have sold out now.


I phoned them up about those pre-registered ones.
They didn't exist - they were a mistake on their system (or least they said - even though I pointed out that autotrader also had links to the cars...) - they were the fleet cars the sales guys were now all driving round in; which had arrived in September. The guy actually laughed at me on the phone and said there was absolutely no chance they would be selling pre-registered Astra's at that price to the public
piratematt;6857667
In the case of this deal (which is fantastic) - you'd be mad not to use scrappage!
All other dealers at this point in time (I'm aware that this deal was available from other dealers in the past but I'm talking about a snapshot of what is available this week) - the best price is £8499 - like for like with scrappage.
Most other dealers (Arnold Clark, Perrys) have the car at £8999 including scrapapge discount
A few even have the car £9499 - hard to believe - but some are trying to push the same active model at this £9499 price including scrappge discount!


Evans Halsaw briefly offered the same car for £7750 cash (no scrappage) but I think they have sold out now.
geordie lee;6855231
Are you people stupid???


geordie lee;6857517
You people really don't listen do you??? £1000!!!"


geordie lee;6855231


As I said earlier I'm a main dealer



I could quite believe it with that attitude!
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More than 50% off, 2009 (59 Plate) Opel/Vauxhall Antara 2.0 CDTi 16V E (Commercial Use), £9999 (Plus VAT of £1,499.85) @ Peter Vardy £11,498.85

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Peter Vardy Vauxhall are Selling: 2009 (59 Plate) Vauxhall Antara SUV 4x4 2.0 CDTi 16V E 5 Door Commercial for £9,999 (Ex.VAT) Plus VAT (£1,499.85) Plus One Years Road Tax (£185.00) Gran…
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I rang them and they won't give any discount for scrappage.


I'm not surprised, given it's such a cheap price and an EU import (AFAIK the scrappage scheme covers brand new UK sourced cars through the proper dealer network, not pre-registered or EU imports).
if you want one for business surely you buy a proper van for that price - pity cos if it had proper back seats it would be a bargain
Nice if you want one for a business, but as has already been mentioned they only come with two seats and you can not put any additional seats in, so not for me.
I rang them and they won't give any discount for scrappage. Also this is definitely only the 2 seater with big load bay.
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Vauxhall Insignia Exclusiv 1.8 only £11,999.00 - Save £4416 @ Peter Vardy Vauxhall

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With the new 09 plate out today, this caught my eye and I think this is a caracking deal for a brand new modern saloon. BTW I do not work for a dealership or in the motor industry. Only snag is, Peter…
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You're obviously very paranoid and have trust issues. i hope whenever you're on the lookout for a new car you pay full wack AND they hit you for another 15% on top because you can't appreciate a genuine offer. :whistling:

And BTW out of the 77 or so posts on this thread only about 8 are my so called "constant pushing"


Thanks. But buy a new car these days, whilst the SMMT cry about nobody wanting to buy their over-produced, overpriced cars? You've gotta be kidding me???
Why Vauxhall are offering such keen prices. They will enter bankruptcy within weeks if they do not receive additional cash flow.
Besford;4541965
Again, we're very largely in agreement. I echo the view that the Japanese showed the world how to make a reliable car (though it should be added that they haven't always been too good on durability), but many others have learned from them and, in some cases, surpassed them. They're also not consistently on top when it comes to safety (see NCAP listings), but again even the poorest today are way better than a car of 10 years ago. If value and reliability are higher on your list than excitement, performance, prestige, etc. then a used Korean is probably a pretty good buy.


I'm sure we are agreeing with each other here too.

I found that certain marques have much more appealing interiors - the ideal car for me would have been a German body with Japanese engine and electrics.

I'd say the durability of the Japanese mechanical and electrical components were always good - certainly by the 1970's at least - back then the bodies simply disolved.

Saying that, some of the Euro offerings of the day were not that much better really.

My dad had a Fiat 126 during the fuel crisis :oops: which had to be completely resprayed at the grand old age of two years due to rust and his Ford Escort that was traded in for a For Cortina had to have a bottom half respray at the ripe old age of 3 years! Both truly shocking examples.

I've owned Japanese cars with reasonable levels of excitement or fun factor, my old '86 Corolla AE86 was a blast to drive and has been a cult car for many years now. My '95 Nissan 240SX is a very nice car to drive as well - it's still going strong today but it has an easy life in Florida. I still hanker for a 240Z....

The prestige thing actually irks me somewhat and I've always avoided it. It's all about perception of a marque at the end of the day rather than anything else.

Value and reliability is definitely my starting point when buying a car - I love the looks of some of the new Alfas (and even Fiats) but unfortunately I'd never buy one due to the expected reliability issues :x
gtd65;4537309
I hear ya!

Most of my experience tends to be from friends/colleagues/or personal ownership, naturally, it is guided to an extent from outside sources which I’d say tend to reinforce my traditional viewpoint that the Japanese were really the pioneers of the truly reliable vehicle.
When I was a lad my father owned mainly Ford cars as did most his friends – when he finally went “Japanese” in ‘83 it was an end to tins of damp start and blankets over engines on a winters night – you put the key in the ignition and the car started – which was quite novel at the time.

I curious regarding which Korean models are poor products – I tend to view reliability as the number one concern, with other factors trailing – (a Toyota fits the bill perfectly). Are they poor in reliability or just function/style? I was actually very impressed with the Picanto – especially the anchor-like braking! I’m not saying it’s the best car in the world but it certainly surpassed my expectations. I’ve not had any experience of the dealer network but I have read that Kia UK is abysmal for customer service/complaints.

I have to agree with you on the quality of US domestic cars (non-transplant) which are of very low grade. Mind you for the price, you do get a fair bit of car for the money.

Jaguar has not been known as a good reliable car for so long now that I’m sure it will take a very long time indeed to reverse this mentality even if they are able to produce something equivalent to a Lexus – and why shouldn’t the benchmark be as high?

My main gripe about Land Rover (the old Defender series etc) was that they were still considered back then to be the best – the truth was they were not. The scenario of the Landy parked in a field and abused by squaddies – substitute a Toyota Land Cruiser and the chances are that it would start and have no problems even after being abused.
I’ve got pals in the UK with Discoveries from the 21st century that had endless sensor problems and fiddly issues occurring with regular monotony. Another friend who owns a garage had a problem with his Range Rover that even the main dealer couldn’t rectify – it’s still enough to keep me away from them – although they are very nice looking products overall. If it was my money I’d have an Infiniti FX50S – however, I’m not in the market for an SUV. I don’t doubt at all that there has been a dramatic improvement over time – but just like the Koreans (who are actually succeeding) a hell of a jump was needed.

I tend to buy cars just out of warranty or older so don’t normally factor in any dealer activity with my purchase. I’m certainly not saying that the Japanese or other Asian manufacturers offer a better product in all cases, I’m just conveying that the likelihood is much higher with them than most other manufacturers for producing a safe, reliable means of transport. :thumbsup:

Again, we're very largely in agreement. I echo the view that the Japanese showed the world how to make a reliable car (though it should be added that they haven't always been too good on durability), but many others have learned from them and, in some cases, surpassed them. They're also not consistently on top when it comes to safety (see NCAP listings), but again even the poorest today are way better than a car of 10 years ago. If value and reliability are higher on your list than excitement, performance, prestige, etc. then a used Korean is probably a pretty good buy.
Inactive;4537387
Totally agree with that statement, but keep it quiet before the message gets too widespread and prices go up.;-)


Don't worry the Chinese are coming next to take their place...might be a few years yet...:thumbsup:
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