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As John Lewis seem out of stock all the time this is the next best deal on this TV IMO

Use 10% discount code for this price. Free delivery to local store or add £30

3 year warranty costs £20 of free if you already have an extra card
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#1
42" PlasmaTelevision
High-definition PlasmaWXGA display, 1024x768p
Integrated Digital Tuner for DVB-T reception
HD ready for the highest quality display of HDTVsignals
PixelPlus HD for better details, depth and clarity in HDTV3D comb filter separates colours for a razor-sharp image
Incredible Surround for enhanced audio enjoyment
Compact and slim design that fits in every room
1000 page Hypertext for instant fast access to teletext
Dual HDMIinput for full digital High Definition connection
[helper]#3
Hot deal Deano......

Anyone advise if I use this with an xbox 360 will I get screen burn and ghosting or will I be limited to playing for an hour at a time....
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gari189
Hot deal Deano......

Anyone advise if I use this with an xbox 360 will I get screen burn and ghosting or will I be limited to playing for an hour at a time....


I know alot of panels you are advised to run them in on low settings for 200 hours, i did this with my Panny and dont get any screen burn or retenetion and i often fall asleap on the sofa with a news channel or something on which have loads of static graphics, but its never done any harm to mine and it could be 6 or 7 hours like that until i wake up
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deanos
I know alot of panels you are advised to run them in on low settings for 200 hours, i did this with my Panny and dont get any screen burn or retenetion and i often fall asleap on the sofa with a news channel or something on which have loads of static graphics, but its never done any harm to mine and it could be 6 or 7 hours like that until i wake up


Hmmm for most of the weekend I've been looking at 32" lcd tvs.......

A 42" plasma is tempting but its finding somewhere to put it!! no doubt by the time I've convinced the missus this will have sold out :cry:

Thanks for the advice.....:thumbsup:
#6
M8 you wont regret it, had ours about 7 months and was monster when we got it, now it looks small beleive it or not and the wife wants to get a 50"
banned#7
deanos
M8 you wont regret it, had ours about 7 months and was monster when we got it, now it looks small beleive it or not and the wife wants to get a 50"



I have to agree I have got the 42" and when I got it, it looked big but after a few days I wished I had went for the 50" as well. :x
#8
deanos
had ours about 7 months and was monster when we got it, now it looks small beleive it or not and the wife wants to get a 50"


Same is true in the bedroom dept.
#9
HankMcSpank
Same is true in the bedroom dept.

hahaha!

Don't know much about these TVs but is this actual 1080p? That seems to be the in thing innit?!

How does it compare to the LG 42LC2DB for £598.99?
#10
does this one have "picture-in-picture" thing?
#11
this is not HD in any sense of the word, look at the resolution. This is more of a monitor rather than a tv!
#12
unclesomebody
this is not HD in any sense of the word, look at the resolution. This is more of a monitor rather than a tv!



Could you expand on your theory please, I am not sure what you mean?:roll:
#13
unclesomebody
this is not HD in any sense of the word, look at the resolution. This is more of a monitor rather than a tv!

in the spec it says "It has a universal connection for both analogue YPbPr and uncompressed Digital connection of DVI or HDMI, supporting HDCP. It can display 720p, and 1080i signals at 50 and 60Hz."
#14
how is this not hd? 720p is hd
#15
I also have a 42" plasma and wish I had bought a 50". Once you get used to the tv it doesn't seem that big.

This set is HD. Ok it is not a true 1080P screen but will display 720P fully. 720P is still HD.

If you want a 1920x1080 42" plasma you will need to spend a bit more.
#16
http://www.hdblog.net/wp-content/resolution_chart.jpg


This chart will give you an idea of how close you would need to get to a 42" 1080P screen to start noticing pixels. Just over 5 feet. Basically for an average viewing distance you can't tell the difference between 720P and 1080P on a 42" screen or less.
#17
Inactive
Could you expand on your theory please, I am not sure what you mean?:roll:


1024x768 - the standard res for yer average 15" lcd, back in the day... :giggle:
#18
Nookster
1024x768 - the standard res for yer average 15" lcd, back in the day... :giggle:



That is just a technical answer that means nothing when translated to actual picture quality.

I have one of these sets, the picture quality is stunning on SD Transmissions, I am not even interested in HD as there is nothing worth paying for to watch at this time.

And for all of these people rambling on about 1080p, well excuse me, who transmits anything in 1080P.??
#19
Thanks for the chart Spud. To anyone considering the bump to HD, remember that this chart will assume decent eyesight or wearing glasses.

I'll echo the sentiments here, I got a 40D3000 the other week when my beloved WEGA CRT died. Seems massive initially, but if you're used to a CRT, a slim panel close to a flat wall changes your perception of room space, especially if your present telly is hogging a corner of the room. Don't forget that the outer bezel is much smaller than a tube too.

Geek note, I was sad enough to measure (well my mate did!) the viewing distance from my 40" to my head is 9.5 feet, which is supposedly the sweet spot according to the chart.

Consider two factors, how close you need to be to appreciate HD, and how far away you have be to enjoy SD.

For example, on my set Freeview and standard def Sky look decent from 6-9 feet, with Noise Reduction set to off (I try to avoid extra processing), it's not too bad even a little closer than that, and I'm a picky ******.
#20
Inactive
That is just a technical answer that means nothing when translated to actual picture quality.

I have one of these sets, the picture quality is stunning on SD Transmissions, I am not even interested in HD as there is nothing worth paying for to watch at this time.

And for all of these people rambling on about 1080p, well excuse me, who transmits anything in 1080P.??


I was venturing a guess at someone else's train of thought that led them to referencing computer monitors, nothing more, I'm not disparaging your telly.

1080p has it's uses, HD DVD, Blu-Ray, PS3, 360, just about any decent computer can make use of a higher res panel.

Not suggesting it's crucial either, I'm a gadget and gaming freak and I just bought a new telly that does a mere 1366x768, I could have easily used the extra res, but it's only one factor in the equation.
#21
Nookster
I was venturing a guess at someone else's train of thought that led them to referencing computer monitors, nothing more,


It's not really a valid comparison though, because most people sit 2/3 feet from their monitor, but 10 feet from their TV.
#22
When I'm going for an S class in Excite Truck, about 2 foot from the screen, swearing like a loon, screen res is last thing on my mind :viking: :lol:
#23
Good spec for the money. Hot!
#24
unclesomebody
this is not HD in any sense of the word, look at the resolution. This is more of a monitor rather than a tv!


Here comes the tech experts :roll:
#25
deanos
Here comes the tech experts :roll:


Agreed, there should be only one reference for any TV, what your eyes see, I have this TV and I can say hand on heart the picture quality is stunning on SD material. ( not tested on HD ).;-)

Also the sound quality is superb, something overlooked by many manufacturers and buyers.
#26
deanos
42" PlasmaTelevision
High-definition PlasmaWXGA display, 1024x768p
Integrated Digital Tuner for DVB-T reception
HD ready for the highest quality display of HDTVsignals
PixelPlus HD for better details, depth and clarity in HDTV3D comb filter separates colours for a razor-sharp image
Incredible Surround for enhanced audio enjoyment
Compact and slim design that fits in every room
1000 page Hypertext for instant fast access to teletext
Dual HDMIinput for full digital High Definition connection


If the above is true, then this tv can not display any sort of HD. Sorry I wasn't clear enough earlier. T0 display 720p HD (ie. poor man's HD) the television needs to support 1280x720 pixels. This is the standard resolution for 720p HD and looks very good when compared to SD. If you want real HD, by that I mean 1080p, then you need a television which supports a resolution of 1920x1080. As you can see, this set supports no high def format.

If someone is thinking this does 480p, well, that is just a normal NTSC size, which we don't even use in the UK. In the UK we use PAL, and so an SD picture would be 720*576. That is the only resolution this television could display, nothing higher.

This type of plasma screen is often used in airports, railway stations, etc as display boards for flight/rail information. That is why they have that resolution.

I hope this helps someone, or atleast causes someone to dig a little deeper. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I'm only going on the information above. I've done no other research!
#27
Your incorrect as this is a plasma which can only display 1024 lines horizontally. (Most LCDs can display 1366 lines across).

For a time you couldn't get 1080p so 720p is not poor mans HDTV and for my viewing distance 720p is perfectly acceptable. I'll hunt around and post the official HD Spec which this TV conforms too.

http://www.dvdlibrary.co.uk/hd_ready.htm

The only contentios (sp?) part is the ability to accept (NOT SUPPORT) 1280x720 which I believe this TV will do by scaling the picture to fit within it's resolution.

The fact that they claim it's HD Ready meands exactly that, it's HD Ready!

For £600 and a 42" this seems an excellent deal.
#28
Well thats a bit lame, i mean, good price, but not being able to display true 720p is quite a loss.
#29
marcosdjcm
Well thats a bit lame, i mean, good price, but not being able to display true 720p is quite a loss.


Why? At 10 feet someone with 20/20 vision can't even see all the detail that 1024*768 can produce, let alone 1280*720 or 1366*768. Any higher resolution would be a complete waste, unless you intend to sit 6 feet away, or have eagle eyes.
#30
unclesomebody
this is not HD in any sense of the word, look at the resolution. This is more of a monitor rather than a tv!



It can display 720p, therefore is HD.

Time for you to use Google.:whistling: :giggle:
#31
marcosdjcm
Well thats a bit lame, i mean, good price, but not being able to display true 720p is quite a loss.


Use your eyes to see the actual TV, not a load of numbers, there is more to a displayed picture than geek numbers.;-)

Let your eyes be the judge.;-)
#32
How does this compare to the panny?as from what i have read elsewhere the panny is excellent.
#33
cedge; your post confirms that this TV can NOT support 720p. If it can indeed accept a 720p input and then scale it down you are going to be losing information. To fit 1280 lines into 1024 requires the unit to get rid of some information, this is basic physics. You may have a 720p coming into this television, but the thing your eyes are seeing is not 720p!

This television is not really HD ready as it can't display an HD signal. A tv that could accept an HD single and put it out as an SD image would certainly not be HD ready!!!


Arfster; You may well be right, but that's not the point is it. We are constantly moving forward in technology, and this includes plasma screens. For example, one screen may only have a 72% colour gamut and another may have 92%. Whether or not you can tell the difference is something that each individual can decide for themselves, and you may think it's not worthwhile, but I do. Why are all these people hunting for good deals on 720p televisions? It's not because they can't tell any difference is it?

In conclusion, this set can NOT display any HD image. Whether or not it can accept an HD input and then make it smaller to display is somewhat irrelevant. If you want HD, but a different set. (disclaimer; once again, this is only based on information in this thread and that could be wrong)
#34
moob
It can display 720p, therefore is HD.

Time for you to use Google.:whistling: :giggle:


Have a look at this, then tell me it can display 720p

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/98/Common_Video_Resolutions.svg/700px-Common_Video_Resolutions.svg.png
#35
From Wikipedia:

"720p assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9, and a horizontal resolution of 1280 pixels for a total of about 0.92 million pixels. The frame rate (in this case equal to the field rate) can be either implied by the context or specified in hertz after the letter p. The five 720p frame rates in common use are 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 Hz (or fps). In general, traditional PAL and SECAM countries (Europe, Australia, much of Asia, Africa, and parts of South America) are or will be using the 25p and 50p frame or field rates, whereas traditional NTSC countries (North and Central America, Japan, South Korea, Philippines) are using 24p (for movies), and 60p for high motion programming. All variants can be transported by both major digital television formats, ATSC and DVB."

An array of 1280×720 on a 16:9 display has square pixels. An array of 1024×768 on a 16:9 display has rectangular pixels. However to fit on the screen the image will still have to be zoomed out a little and you may get black bars top and bottom on films that would normally be perfect fit, therefore in my eyes not true 720p - theyve twisted things in their advertising in a clever but deceiving way. When I was ordering my TV a few months ago I thought if Im spending £500 odd then if I cant afford 1080p then I at least want true 720p instead of this strange resolution. Id prefer 1280x720 or more. (There are cheaper make TV's out there that offer 42" LCD 1366x768 screens for the same price as this but its all down to whether you want a branded TV or not).

Here's another image to back up unclesomebody:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vector_Video_Standards2.png
#36
Why is it that every time someone posts a deal for a plasma TV some bright spark pops s up with the "It's not HD!" statement.

Most Plasma TV's are 1024 x 768 due to the manufacturing process.

And most experts agree that Plasma TV's are better than LCD for movies and fast motion.

I have a Panasonic Viera with this resolution and Bluray movies from my PS3 look a amazing, as does Freeview.

If you'd rather read the specification list that actually watch thwe picture then buy something else - but this is a Hot Deal!
#37
That's not quite true philpot. Most 37" and 42" are that resolution (which can't actually display true 720p), but all 50" plasma's and above are atleast 1,366x768 and the very high end ones are actually 1920x1080.

This is nothing to do with "my tele looks great", but to do with the facts of the situation with regard to the specification of this TV.
banned#38
unclesomebody
That's not quite true philpot. Most 37" and 42" are that resolution (which can't actually display true 720p), but all 50" plasma's and above are atleast 1,366x768 and the very high end ones are actually 1920x1080.

This is nothing to do with "my tele looks great", but to do with the facts of the situation with regard to the specification of this TV.

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#39
unclesomebody
If the above is true, then this tv can not display any sort of HD. Sorry I wasn't clear enough earlier. T0 display 720p HD (ie. poor man's HD) the television needs to support 1280x720 pixels. This is the standard resolution for 720p HD and looks very good when compared to SD. If you want real HD, by that I mean 1080p, then you need a television which supports a resolution of 1920x1080. As you can see, this set supports no high def format.

If someone is thinking this does 480p, well, that is just a normal NTSC size, which we don't even use in the UK. In the UK we use PAL, and so an SD picture would be 720*576. That is the only resolution this television could display, nothing higher.

This type of plasma screen is often used in airports, railway stations, etc as display boards for flight/rail information. That is why they have that resolution.

I hope this helps someone, or atleast causes someone to dig a little deeper. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I'm only going on the information above. I've done no other research!


Lol You don't know what you are talking about :giggle: this tv can display 720p fine
#40
Narcist; I would love to know how. Can you please explain, because all the spec sheets say it doesn't actually have enough pixels! If you have a link or some technical knowledge that would be great.

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