Philips VOIP3211 VOIP And Skype Compatible Digital Cordless Telephone - £29.99 @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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With VOIP 321 you can make free Skype calls as well as normal landline calls. You can make and take calls on both networks from one single handset, and you can see who is on-line without going to the PC, just by looking at the display.

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With the VOIP 321 you can make free Skype calls as well as normal landline calls. You can make and take calls on both networks from one single handset, and you can see who is on-line without going to the PC, just by looking at the display.Main Features:Free calls worldwide via Skype to any other Skype usersDirect Skype key to access your contacts listSkype conference calls with several friendsMake or take calls via SkypeMake or take calls via landlineLow rate call cost on standard phone numbers via SkypeOut...
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#1
Is this VOIP and Skype? I somehow dont think so.
#2
Needs the PC switched on to use the Skype/VOIP functionality, though.
#3
Pistol;3128990
Needs the PC switched on to use the Skype/VOIP functionality, though.


Another of these total waste of time Skype handsets :-(

Skype is the dearest way there is to make landline calls via the internet, and if your PC has to be on, what IS the point of a handset at all, when you can use a headset or headphones and mic with the PC for far better sound quality anyway, or even bluetooth for better handsfree wireless operation!
#4
I think you will find that the ONLY VoIP capability of this phone is via the proprietary SKYPE service and NOT any generic/industry standard SIP based service, ie with competition and lower/free prices.
#5
nihcaj
Another of these total waste of time Skype handsets :-(

Skype is the dearest way there is to make landline calls via the internet, and if your PC has to be on, what IS the point of a handset at all, when you can use a headset or headphones and mic with the PC for far better sound quality anyway, or even bluetooth for better handsfree wireless operation!
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100 % agree this phones are total waste of time. if you want to save money on making calls you better of going with cheap mobile contract like 3three £15 a month 300 minute and decent cash back..........
cold for me , sorry!
#6
littel helper;3130252
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100 % agree this phones are total waste of time. if you want to save money on making calls you better of going with cheap mobile contract like 3three £15 a month 300 minute and decent cash back..........
cold for me , sorry!


With this not being a mobile option, there seems very little point comparing with mobile rates, and you aren't anywhere close to cheap" either!

I was thinking of "cheap" as spending less than ten quid total & having 300 minutes a WEEK free for 3 months, then still having nearly ten quid's worth of credit to use @ about 1p a minute, ie. about another 900 minutes when that runs out! (actually it is even possible to share with a friend from a 2nd different IP address and use up to 300 mins a week free, each! but you can't guarantee that, and maybe it's a bit greedy!) :whistling:
With Finearea VOIP companies, most offer this, but some are priced a bit different, and it depends if you make calls abroad, which one to choose.

When calls are that cheap, apart from the sore ear and arm, from sitting talking on the phone, I certainly don't feel the need to use many mobile minutes anyway, there is only so much to talk about, so a contract for me became a waste of time & money, and I was spending more on spam multimedia calls that were coming in, hence I have dumped mine and I have gone to ASDA mobile on PAYG for the few calls I end up needing or wanting to make from mobile! At effectively 7.2p a minute, by buying credit at an ASDA store (it is 8p anyway) I haven't yet needed to top up again since I changed!

Rare occasions when I am away, for evenings or weekends, when I haven't got access to Internet or a free landline phone, I use an old mobile phone I leave in the car with a Vodaphone PAYG SIM in it to make outgoing off peak calls on it @ 15p for an HOUR to a landline! Fortunately my bluetooth car gadget pairs to two phones easily.
As a result my phone calling costs a lot less than 15 quid a month, so small, I don't even bother totalling it up, it is just loose change amounts, so I couldn't actually tell you how much it is. I certainly couldn't be bothered with cashback deals after all the bother I have seen others have with them, and having to be minute perfect in claiming even if they are going to pay out! :-(
suspended#7
I dont know what he just said ??!?!
#8
hoopy1967;3135533
I dont know what he just said ??!?!


In which case it really won't matter to you, as it would be beyond you. Just stick to BT.

I would suggest putting me on your IGNORE list, as you won't be able to understand much, as it will all be a bit technical for you, I have added you to mine as I doubt I will be interested in your sarcastic comments.
suspended#9
Ignore lists very grown up. Think we'll leave it at that.
#10
With Finearea VOIP companies,

AlthougH i agree with you somewhat, the trouble with Finearea er... Betamax websites is you have to top up with £10 in order to use them. They're known for randomly changing their prices sand although i'd agree to a certain extent that Skype rates are expensive and that I'd rather use an open protocol like SIP, the subscription method of paying for skype is the cheapest if you make a lot of calls. I find it difficult to use up £10 on anything Betamax and it annoys me when they keep changing their prices.
#11
sotomonkey;3180865
AlthougH i agree with you somewhat, the trouble with Finearea er... Betamax websites is you have to top up with £10 in order to use them. They're known for randomly changing their prices sand although i'd agree to a certain extent that Skype rates are expensive and that I'd rather use an open protocol like SIP, the subscription method of paying for skype is the cheapest if you make a lot of calls. I find it difficult to use up £10 on anything Betamax and it annoys me when they keep changing their prices.


Wow, a whole 10 quid! Actually 10 Euros, a good bit less than ten quid. I take very few risks financially, if you can't risk 10 Euros, you are not going to get many good deals ever, as almost everything anyone buys involves more risk than this!

Random price changes? Like what? Been using them years and I can't remember the last time they changed anything to my detriment.
Web sites and Usenet is littered with this sort of negative comment, and it has so little truth in it, I can't even see how it ever came about. The same thing trotted out, and it was never true, and isn't now. If you want risk, buy something from eBuyer or Dabs or John Lewis, I have had some real risk buying from them, and lost out too, I wish online buying of goods was as low risk :-(

I ALWAYS use my credit - it just takes AGES. After the free period is over, it does not expire,(and hasn't done for a long time) and drops at the rate of 1p per minute as you use it, so you get about 800 minutes use after the free expires or so depending on exchange rates. That alone is cheaper than Skype!

When I need to buy new credit, I go to whatever site is offering the best rates for the destinations I am wanting to call, which is UK, or maybe the best mobile rates, it just depends, either way they are dirt cheap. Currently using VOIPCheap.com and I would have to look through bank statements to find out when I actually bought the credit, it is so long!

SIP connection works fine, even on my PocketPC, which I was using yesterday!
#12
Random price changes? Like what? Been using them years and I can't remember the last time they changed anything to my detriment.
Web sites and Usenet is littered with this sort of negative comment, and it has so little truth in it, I can't even see how it ever came about. The same thing trotted out, and it was never true, and isn't now. If you want risk,


lol ********! I've been using these services since 2003 and I assure you what I just documented is how Betamax has behaved in the past. It's only that I haven't used it in the last year and I noticed they've changed a few things, like how long the credit taeks to expire. You have to accept the fact though that some people don't require any credit whatosever.

Also I'm sure you know well that when something goes wrong with Betamax companies it is almost impossible to sort out. It's not so bad with VOIP as most are prepay but with prefix services it is an utter nightmare.
#13
sotomonkey;3191164
lol ********! I've been using these services since 2003 and I assure you what I just documented is how Betamax has behaved in the past. It's only that I haven't used it in the last year and I noticed they've changed a few things, like how long the credit taeks to expire. You have to accept the fact though that some people don't require any credit whatosever.

Also I'm sure you know well that when something goes wrong with Betamax companies it is almost impossible to sort out. It's not so bad with VOIP as most are prepay but with prefix services it is an utter nightmare.


Is this something covered by the Official Secrets Act?.... WHAT problems are you on about. You haven't "documented" ANYTHING, and I am struggling to work out what is the problem. Nothing HAS gone wrong with it in the time I have used it, all that has happened is it has got cheaper, or longer call time for free!

You pay a paltry few quid, you download the software, or stick in a few settings in a device, and you connect, you call until you can't speak any more as there is a limit to what the human throat can stand!

OK, if it's not working....if you have got the "Worst disaster situation" here... you can't connect or use it at all.

At most, you can lose 10 Euros. Wow!

I would be annoyed if I did, but I would get over it pretty quick, seeing as I have saved HUNDREDS since I started using it.

Every purchase I make, short of buying a newspaper is a bigger risk! If I buy something like new TV, I risk hundreds, and face a nightmare of chasing it up if it goes wrong and I have to get it repaired or replaced - in fact, without VOIP, the phone calls alone cost a fortune! If I buy a duff item at a retail park, it costs me as much in car petrol & wear & tear to take it back!

It is as risk & hassle free as anything I have ever known.

If all this bothers you then don't use it, but don't pretend there is a problem, there is not, simple as that, but I reckon many thousands do use it and do get a blindingly cheap deal.

Nothing left to discuss.
#14
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#15
sotomonkey;3192417
Try searching google you idiot. "I've had no problems therefore no-one else has". That's what you sound like. Pure moronic. Strange for a company to be accused of commiting fraud that as you say has had no problems with it's service.


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#16
You are now on my ignore list. Goodbye


Good. I have no time for people like you who resort to such petty insults and firmly believe that upon insulting people you should be put in your place.

I do apologise though to the admins is this has perhaps detracted from the good nature of this site and I will try to refrain from posting such responses in future, however please note that in this discussion I was not the first to show a lack of respect toward a fellow poster.
#17
Bought this yesterday on "deal of the day" at Scan for just £17 each :-

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Phillips VOIP3211S/05 VOIP/Dect Pho 1 £14.99+VAT

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