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Free handset in the P4U "january sale"

I know the contract price is quite expensive (36) but it is only a 12 month deal... TCO = £432 - £50 quidco £387
300 minutes 3000 texts 500mb data

Which imho is a pretty good deal.

This is not a "buy this phone for so much over two years" it is in fact a good looking contract for someone who is looking for a new phone and contract to enter. It's about the only 12month one you will find with this phone for free which isn't £75 a month.

Apologies if already posted, but I couldn't see it.
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11 Likes #1
Shame it's a Vodafone contract, since they managed to not pay £10 Billion pounds of tax they owe the country (to put this in perspective the entire deficite is ~ £26 Billion) last year alone. Now it seems they're trying another tax dodge. Since the government don't want to make businesses pay what they owe, the debt falls to the general public, once again.


Edited By: arduino on Jan 19, 2012 15:16: .
1 Like #2
Excuse the ignorance, but how would this affect getting a contract with them.
I was going to go for it, but your post has given me 2nd thoughts...
#3
You need to put how many minutes, etc in either the heading or description.
1 Like #4
theYizzle
Excuse the ignorance, but how would this affect getting a contract with them.
I was going to go for it, but your post has given me 2nd thoughts...


If you'r question is directed to me, it wouldn't affect getting a contract with Vodefone they'll gladly take money out of the country, however since they are bending over backwards not to pay tax it means there's less money to actually run the country. Expect more cutbacks on frontline services, expect to pay more tax and work longer ;)

£10 billion is a significant amount of money when the total deficite is £26 billion.

I cancelled my contact with Vodafone for these reasons. The country is in a bad enough state without big businesses not paying the tax they owe.

However, if you or I didn't pay our taxes, I'm sure we wouldn't get away with it.
#5
arduino
theYizzle
Excuse the ignorance, but how would this affect getting a contract with them.
I was going to go for it, but your post has given me 2nd thoughts...

If you'r question is directed to me, it wouldn't affect getting a contract with Vodefone they'll gladly take money out of the country, however since they are bending over backwards not to pay tax it means there's less money to actually run the country. Expect more cutbacks on frontline services, expect to pay more tax and work longer ;)

£10 billion is a significant amount of money when the total deficite is £26 billion.

I cancelled my contact with Vodafone for these reasons. The country is in a bad enough state without big businesses not paying the tax they owe.

However, if you or I didn't pay our taxes, I'm sure we wouldn't get away with it.

every little helps...

Good deal
#6
theYizzle
Excuse the ignorance, but how would this affect getting a contract with them.
I was going to go for it, but your post has given me 2nd thoughts...

Or in short it's about morality not the viability of any potential contract.

Thanks for heads up though ardino, will make me think twice at renewal time.
#7
kerryoncatering
arduino
theYizzle
Excuse the ignorance, but how would this affect getting a contract with them.
I was going to go for it, but your post has given me 2nd thoughts...


If you'r question is directed to me, it wouldn't affect getting a contract with Vodefone they'll gladly take money out of the country, however since they are bending over backwards not to pay tax it means there's less money to actually run the country. Expect more cutbacks on frontline services, expect to pay more tax and work longer ;)

£10 billion is a significant amount of money when the total deficite is £26 billion.

I cancelled my contact with Vodafone for these reasons. The country is in a bad enough state without big businesses not paying the tax they owe.

However, if you or I didn't pay our taxes, I'm sure we wouldn't get away with it.


every little helps...

Good deal


I think you're missing the point.
#8
MrWani
theYizzle
Excuse the ignorance, but how would this affect getting a contract with them.
I was going to go for it, but your post has given me 2nd thoughts...


Or in short it's about morality not the viability of any potential contract.

Thanks for heads up though ardino, will make me think twice at renewal time.


Well, the viability of running the country too ;)
#9
...........or for an extra £84 over 2 years, this deal: http://www.hotukdeals.com/visit?m=1664&q=1122597 which is the equivilant of £7pm for a "sim only" deal for the second year.
#10
This still like one of the best phones out? get a upgrade 1st of feb and thinking about getting this or samsung galaxy nexus. Think this though.
#11
vir3us
This still like one of the best phones out? get a upgrade 1st of feb and thinking about getting this or samsung galaxy nexus. Think this though.

Do some research on the recent spate of random crashes on the Nexus, however apparently ICS runs better on the nexus than the S2.
1 Like #12
arduino
kerryoncatering
arduino
theYizzle
Excuse the ignorance, but how would this affect getting a contract with them.
I was going to go for it, but your post has given me 2nd thoughts...

If you'r question is directed to me, it wouldn't affect getting a contract with Vodefone they'll gladly take money out of the country, however since they are bending over backwards not to pay tax it means there's less money to actually run the country. Expect more cutbacks on frontline services, expect to pay more tax and work longer ;)

£10 billion is a significant amount of money when the total deficite is £26 billion.

I cancelled my contact with Vodafone for these reasons. The country is in a bad enough state without big businesses not paying the tax they owe.

However, if you or I didn't pay our taxes, I'm sure we wouldn't get away with it.

every little helps...

Good deal

I think you're missing the point.

Dont think so, i get the morality but youll buy from someone else who no doubt does the same thing. Everyone tries to pay little or no tax imo. Trouble is they (voda) are not doing anything legally wrong (i believe). Your abstinance might not make a difference but your letters to mps along with many others just might. Find a way to make them pay the right tax through our government or newspapers. Start a campaign by all means but where do you stop when choosing where and what to buy. By the way i do in principle agree with your stance. However like you because they dont pay i have to pay more so i buy the cheapest. Hate it but thats the reality for me.
#13
kerryoncatering

Dont think so, i get the morality but youll buy from someone else who no doubt does the same thing. Everyone tries to pay little or no tax imo.


If "everyone" did this, there'd be no money to run the country, no hospitals, no police, no schools etc. This isn't a morality argument. It's basic economics. Even if you never used Vodafone, they're costing you money.

kerryoncatering
Trouble is they (voda) are not doing anything legally wrong (i believe).


They were actually, if you care to look into it.

kerryoncatering
Your abstinance might not make a difference but your letters to mps along with many others just might. Find a way to make them pay the right tax through our government or newspapers.


it was the current government minister who, after being wined and dined many times by Vodafone, let them off with it. Since the government want to "build a better economy" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16626707) yet let business off with paying tax, it comes down to the rich once again making the workers of the country pay for shortfall created by businesses.

As such letters to MPs would seem to be a waste of time, as they're complicit in this. Not giving Vodafone taxable income in the first place is the best solution for everyone.

kerryoncatering
Start a campaign by all means but where do you stop when choosing where and what to buy.


A good place to start would be not supporting a company who owe almost half the budget deficit in tax. (£10 out of £26 billion)

kerryoncatering
By the way i do in principle agree with your stance. However like you because they dont pay i have to pay more so i buy the cheapest. Hate it but thats the reality for me.


Your missing the point, a short term small gain you can see, while Vodafone are costing you more in your daily life, outside of phones or contracts, the entire infrastructure of the country takes a hit.

Edited By: arduino on Jan 19, 2012 18:38
#14
Actually it's £50 quidco. It used to be £55, but now saying £50.
Mine tracked at £50 a week ago.
Hot deal BTW, but has been posted before.
Effective phone cost around £310. Same as on the cheapest 24 month deal.
#15
arduino
kerryoncatering

Dont think so, i get the morality but youll buy from someone else who no doubt does the same thing. Everyone tries to pay little or no tax imo.


If "everyone" did this, there'd be no money to run the country, no hospitals, no police, no schools etc. This isn't a morality argument. It's basic economics. Even if you never used Vodafone, they're costing you money.

kerryoncatering
Trouble is they (voda) are not doing anything legally wrong (i believe).


They were actually, if you care to look into it.

kerryoncatering
Your abstinance might not make a difference but your letters to mps along with many others just might. Find a way to make them pay the right tax through our government or newspapers.


it was the current government minister who, after being wined and dined many times by Vodafone, let them off with it. Since the government want to "build a better economy" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16626707) yet let business off with paying tax, it comes down to the rich once again making the workers of the country pay for shortfall created by businesses.

As such letters to MPs would seem to be a waste of time, as they're complicit in this. Not giving Vodafone taxable income in the first place is the best solution for everyone.

kerryoncatering
Start a campaign by all means but where do you stop when choosing where and what to buy.


A good place to start would be not supporting a company who owe almost half the budget deficit in tax. (£10 out of £26 billion)

kerryoncatering
By the way i do in principle agree with your stance. However like you because they dont pay i have to pay more so i buy the cheapest. Hate it but thats the reality for me.


Your missing the point, a short term small gain you can see, while Vodafone are costing you more in your daily life, outside of phones or contracts, the entire infrastructure of the country takes a hit.



im with three every little helps. I wish you well with your campaign though. Sure your right.
1 Like #16
kerryoncatering
im with three every little helps. I wish you well with your campaign though. Sure your right.


Three, the network? Had a terrible time cancelling them, phone tag in an Indian call centre.
#17
apk1
...........or for an extra £84 over 2 years, this deal: http://www.hotukdeals.com/visit?m=1664&q=1122597 which is the equivilant of £7pm for a "sim only" deal for the second year.



I ordered this yesterday and quidco tracked at £50. Phones come today
#18
Grossly biased to claim Vodafone is dodging tens of billions every year. The UKs debts are 100 times that amount (over £1 trillion).
1 Like #19
arduino
Shame it's a Vodafone contract, since they managed to not pay £10 Billion pounds of tax they owe the country (to put this in perspective the entire deficite is ~ £26 Billion) last year alone. Now it seems they're trying another tax dodge. Since the government don't want to make businesses pay what they owe, the debt falls to the general public, once again.



well done to the people who voted for davey boy cameroon then
#20
mackie7722
apk1
...........or for an extra £84 over 2 years, this deal: http://www.hotukdeals.com/visit?m=1664&q=1122597 which is the equivilant of £7pm for a "sim only" deal for the second year.



I ordered this yesterday and quidco tracked at £50. Phones come today


Yeah it's the being tied in for 24 months on those contracts which would put me off. I am not saying the phone is cheap on this but it is free with a decent contract. 12 month is a rare l thing these days.


Edited By: wbbigdave on Jan 20, 2012 10:19
#21
basergorkobal
Actually it's £50 quidco. It used to be £55, but now saying £50.
Mine tracked at £50 a week ago.
Hot deal BTW, but has been posted before.
Effective phone cost around £310. Same as on the cheapest 24 month deal.


When i posted this yesterday it was £55 for android contracts :/

Edited OP now


Edited By: wbbigdave on Jan 20, 2012 10:25
#22
arduino
kerryoncatering
im with three every little helps. I wish you well with your campaign though. Sure your right.

Three, the network? Had a terrible time cancelling them, phone tag in an Indian call centre.
you must be running out of operators, three been great for me. Cheap as chips and service not really been a problem. Call centres are not great but its cheap so suits me.
#23
fairly sure this is a repost
#24
Just for those considering the whole 12 months vs. 24 months argument.

This for 12 months, total cost = £387
This for 24 months, total cost = £490

So the extra year of service is an extra £103, or £8.58 per month. Worth considering - remember, nothing's stopping you from selling the phone halfway through your contract and paying off the remainder if you want to get a different handset.

Edited By: StauntonLick on Jan 21, 2012 13:16
#25
Will this be locked to voda or can I use my 3 sim ? Thanks
1 Like #26
arduino
Shame it's a Vodafone contract, since they managed to not pay £10 Billion pounds of tax they owe the country (to put this in perspective the entire deficite is ~ £26 Billion) last year alone. Now it seems they're trying another tax dodge. Since the government don't want to make businesses pay what they owe, the debt falls to the general public, once again.


I'm leaving them because of this on the 15th feb, shame about this as its a good deal.
#27
sgtbarton
Will this be locked to voda or can I use my 3 sim ? Thanks


All Phones4u contract handsets should be unlocked. Mine was. Using t-mobile sim atm.
1 Like #28
epicvibe321
This phone is ideal for people with sausage fingers and poor eye-site due to its large screen.

I have none of those afflictions but voted hot anyway as special people might find this phone useful.


special people eh???? you are a d**k head...
#29
Isn't our deficit a **** of a lot more than £26bn? A quick Google search reveals that in 2009-10 it was £170bn, I would doubt it's been reduced by £144bn in two years.
#30
I soooo want this phone however want to wait for the supposed s3 in February :(
#31
keggler
epicvibe321
This phone is ideal for people with sausage fingers and poor eye-site due to its large screen.

I have none of those afflictions but voted hot anyway as special people might find this phone useful.


special people eh???? you are a d**k head...


Another jealous Icrap lover I think.
#32
just remember that s3 will be about £350 for the handset on a contract instead of free.
#33
monkeybrains
arduino
Shame it's a Vodafone contract, since they managed to not pay £10 Billion pounds of tax they owe the country (to put this in perspective the entire deficite is ~ £26 Billion) last year alone. Now it seems they're trying another tax dodge. Since the government don't want to make businesses pay what they owe, the debt falls to the general public, once again.



well done to the people who voted for davey boy cameroon then

Of course, this tax loophole has only existed for the last 18 months. oO
#34
arduino
£10 billion is a significant amount of money when the total deficite is £26 billion.

Where do you get that £26 billion figure from? That is the deficit for a couple of months at most.

The "total deficit" for when? 1 month, a year?

Remember that the deficit is simply how much we are adding to the national debt every month/year.

The deficit is like an overdraft, the national debt is like a mortgage. Two very different things.

The deficit for 2009 was £160 billion (link). The Coalition's target is "only" £120 billion.

Monthly deficit (spending more money that we take in) for November 2010 was £23 billion (link).

Given that the national debt is measured in the trillions (link), £10 billion is a drop in the ocean. It doesn't even cover our overspending for much more than about three weeks.
#35
Why should you pay your taxes, and then give more money to those who don't? I say stik to your guns and buy from people who value their people, and re-invest rather than slap them in the face. I will NEVER give my money to VODAFONE, only to watch them squeeze my pension out of the government by avoiding paying the equivelant of saving nearly half the redundancies in the UK. Avoid Vodafone just for this fact alone, and do something right for a change. Voted cold for hat reason alone.
#36
vir3us
This still like one of the best phones out? get a upgrade 1st of feb and thinking about getting this or samsung galaxy nexus. Think this though.
It is one of the best phones, but probably not for long. Samsung has a terrible track record when it comes to upgrades, so soon you will be stuck with outdated software. I would avoid them at all cost, certainly in this price segment.
#37
MrPuddington
vir3us
This still like one of the best phones out? get a upgrade 1st of feb and thinking about getting this or samsung galaxy nexus. Think this though.
It is one of the best phones, but probably not for long. Samsung has a terrible track record when it comes to upgrades, so soon you will be stuck with outdated software. I would avoid them at all cost, certainly in this price segment.


ICS is coming to the phone in the next 2 months, JellyBean (if that's what it's called) won't be even announced until at least next xmas with another few months to port it. This phone will have uptodate software until well after this contract ends.

Should EpicVibe321 not be banned for the comment he made earlier..... that was pretty offensive.....
#38
Some body please help. I am due to change or upgrade in next few weeks. I was looking at this and the HCT SE. Which is the better option? I Like the idea of going bk to a 1 year contract so don't mind paying a little more for something I can get for less over 2 years. I get bored very easily and have now had a BB Storm 2 for almost 2 years and fed up now.
Thanks for any help
#39
debbuck
Some body please help. I am due to change or upgrade in next few weeks. I was looking at this and the HCT SE. Which is the better option? I Like the idea of going bk to a 1 year contract so don't mind paying a little more for something I can get for less over 2 years. I get bored very easily and have now had a BB Storm 2 for almost 2 years and fed up now.
Thanks for any help

Get S2 cos reselling value is will be much better.
#40
Thanks for your help

rodman
debbuck
Some body please help. I am due to change or upgrade in next few weeks. I was looking at this and the HCT SE. Which is the better option? I Like the idea of going bk to a 1 year contract so don't mind paying a little more for something I can get for less over 2 years. I get bored very easily and have now had a BB Storm 2 for almost 2 years and fed up now.
Thanks for any help

Get S2 cos reselling value is will be much better.

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