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k before this gets voted on price alone please read the post i will compose below after working out how to post this right, too much alcohol
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#1
thats 4 fully paranoid parents...
#2
Interesting but I wouldn't by one due to the fact if kids want to look at something they will do and if they don't well its £49.99 down the drain. Nothing like this ever stopped me and I'm a well rounded individual :thumbsup: heh heh!

No vote from me BTW
#3
I know there was a similar item posted on here recently that got a bit of a slating as being a nazi approach but this seems a bit better thought out and more "down to how its used" could maybe do some good.
After all if u don't want to spy on the little ******s don't read the logs..but do make some effort they are not confronted with some of the seedier side of the web

Don't need one myself as stepson is all grown up and fortunately we had no broadband when he was at "that " age, but he had his moment in school left alone with a computer he went straight to xxx.BIGTitties.com and preceded to print off the pics.
My fault!! i admit, i had shown him the fastest way to get to a required web page by demonstrating entering addresses directly(eee the days of dialup), think the example i used was ibm.com tho lol
noticed a lot of people on here with "wee uns" who might want to look into this for future reference, get familiar with it before they get to that desk
banned#4
kids love porn FACT
#5
aww come on guys the moron asked u not to vote before reading further post,
he meant pls dont vote/comment/make decision,, we are talking something which could save a child from some real trauma but more importantly is half the RRP or so i'm told ;)
pls vote sensibly
#6
BTW, can you really use that £5 voucher for this purchase? It's listed as "£5 off a Creative Zen @ Ebuyer".
#7
I want to vote hot because I believe that every responsible parent should be exercising some control over the content of the internet. But have to vote cold because there are much cheaper ways of achieving the same effect! We use CyberPatrol - and only my wife's got the password (I don't trust myself!). It's way cheaper and nothing to lose or get broken.

Sure, there are ways round these things. But it's the same idea of just putting things on the top shelf or locking the medicine cabinet or putting a burglar alarm on your house. Just means there has to be a lot more determined effort to get what you want. Also protects you from coming across undesirable things accidentally.
#8
the kid just has to pull the USB stick out.

Not to hard to access the porn

this is gimmick theres softwares out their that would do the same job
#9
Windows Vista has Parental Controls built in!!!

Does exactly the same as this, web filtering and the like, i set it up on my brothers new laptop. Admittedly, it is a little overzealous sometimes, e.g. blocking Google! lol.

Why pay for something that comes with the computer anyway!

STONE COLD
#10
toonarmy88
the kid just has to pull the USB stick out.

Not to hard to access the porn

this is gimmick theres softwares out their that would do the same job


nope that wont work config is set to block everything when key is removed


peodude
Windows Vista has Parental Controls built in!!!
Does exactly the same as this, web filtering and the like, i set it up on my brothers new laptop. Admittedly, it is a little overzealous sometimes, e.g. blocking Google! lol.
Why pay for something that comes with the computer anyway!
STONE COLD

because its another layer of protection, you have a fire escape is that any reason to get rid of the extinguishers plus there are many that are still on xp

The point of this over software is "key removal" put it on your keychain and take it with you=pc is locked

I love the comments and hope they alone will keep this at the top if only for parents to think about, but i asked people to vote responsibly, voting cold is not that, not voting is fine.
The usual reasons for voting need to be suspended or enforced here, this could stop some child bringing up a web page containing not porn but much nastier, any one seen the beheadings?
#11
Totally pointless device, any kid who wants to circumvent this only has to slap a Linux or Windows live cd in the machine and boot it and there won't be anything stopping them doing what they want.
#12
I demand you spam this post, if the wife sees it she'll install one on my computer :x



:lol:

Seriously though, if a kid wants porn, they'll get it. This will only slow them down a bit.
#13
fat-pudding
Totally pointless device, any kid who wants to circumvent this only has to slap a Linux or Windows live cd in the machine and boot it and there won't be anything stopping them doing what they want.


Not if the parent knows enough to go into BIOS, install a password and lock out CD/USB Boot;-)

Mind you, if they know that then chances are they also know how to lock out sites with a hosts file as well....
#14
vixygwim
BIOS doesn't matter.

If Windows can boot then you can change the boot process without ever going near the BIOS :).

Always a way.. it's a curse.


Show me....

By the way, I wonder if this key blocks actual addresses or at IP level. nothing to stop you doing a traceroute to get the IP and entering that in the url bar. If that fails, an online proxy (rather than a proxy server) would get past it i'm betting.
#15
If the parents were that good then it would be most likely that the kid would know that they could just swap the default boot device for a different hard disk, recover the bios password, reset the chassis intrusion detection and then carry on booting from cd without the parent knowing as they'd have the bios password :thumbsup:
#16
http://www.hidemyass.com/

Bet that would beat it ;-) Well apart from having ass in the url :lol:

Cool version : http://www.boratproxy.com/

:w00t:
#17
vixygwim
BIOS doesn't matter.


You can lock down the windows boot menu (iirc, thankfully it has been a long time since I've had to deal with windows) but If I was going to circumvent a system like this I'd prefer to do it via the live CD and use a usb memory key for storage as it wouldn't leave any log files etc. on disk so should be far less risky for potential discovery of your porn stash. :-D
#18
Shengis
By the way, I wonder if this key blocks actual addresses or at IP level. nothing to stop you doing a traceroute to get the IP and entering that in the url bar. If that fails, an online proxy (rather than a proxy server) would get past it i'm betting.


From doing a bit of reading on this device, I imagine it installs as a device driver that whitelists system processes and the browser and locks down other applications from being able to be executed. I'd also think it would stop you from fiddling with system files but it looks like it logs all the sites you visit and writes them onto the usb key so that whoever is the administrator can come along later to see which urls have been visited so you'd see no security that way. Anyhow, I think we are all in agreement that it won't stop tech-savvy kids (and how many of them aren't?) into working around it.
#19
vixygwim
How do I know that you're not some 10-12 year old kid wanting to get around your parents filtering :pirate:.

Without going into too much detail you can rewrite the MBR on the hard drive, stick the replacement boot loader in the root of the drive partition and away you go.

Or..... you could stick the alternate boot loader into the partition root like above and use the normal Windows booting sequence to bring it up.

Or..... you could write the alternate boot loader into the first few sectors of the HD (as there's always space there) and boot from there using either of the techniques above.

Or.. or.. or..

I could go on forever.


But you assume the key would allow you to do that. From what I can work out it basically cripples the computer, just like Vista does out of the box. So if you've got a kid with a limited account having no admin rights etc.... Then again, that would still require setting up by the parent, and if they knew how to do that..... makes this pretty redundant.
#20
You could always just educate your children of the dangers and save yourself future hassle and £50.

After all they WILL get around it, and if you havent bothered educating them, thats when it's dangerous.

Another way to get parents to panic buy something to make their kids "safe" and rely on consumer gadgets to do the parenting for them.
#21
HaggisHunter
You could always just educate your children of the dangers and save yourself future hassle and £50.

After all they WILL get around it, and if you havent bothered educating them, thats when it's dangerous.

Another way to get parents to panic buy something to make their kids "safe" and rely on consumer gadgets to do the parenting for them.


Yeah I agree with that approach. Kids will only REALLY seek out what you don't want them to. Try to stop them getting it and they'll put more effort into defeating you. I know that's what I was like in the old days :lol:
#22
and if the 5yr old has a masters in computing science he could probably just re write the code on the device itself????,
get real you guys most kids aren't that tech savvy, a few know applications very well and some even know how to do a bit of scripting, but i imagine only 1 in 1,000 will get anywhere near this.
most of the arguments will have been taken care of, ie locking down boot order in bios is probably within instructions for this so as creative as these points are don't think they bare any relevance in day to day
#23
I'm voting neither way on this one. But I have to say, if a kid wants to look at a website, they will. you can stop them doing it on your own pc, but every single one of their mates will probably have a pc, if they can't look at something at home, nothing stops them from looking when at a friends.

@ fat pudding and vixygwim, I can switch my pc on and open a web page, anything after that is a bonus!! lol
#24
maddogb
and if the 5yr old has a masters in computing science he could probably just re write the code on the device itself????,
get real you guys most kids aren't that tech savvy, a few know applications very well and some even know how to do a bit of scripting, but i imagine only 1 in 1,000 will get anywhere near this.
most of the arguments will have been taken care of, ie locking down boot order in bios is probably within instructions for this so as creative as these points are don't think they bare any relevance in day to day


You are wrong, very wrong. I'm remembering being a kid at school in the 80's and the warez scene back then which involved passing around floppy discs with pictures of topless girls on too, not just games :-D

Even the less tech savvy kids could follow simple instructions to get around things like this if they wanted, which in reality if someone had a device like this installed on their computer they only need to find a couple of the tech savvy kids and ask them to help and it'd be done.

If you are looking at protecting your non-tech savvy five year olds then just use the damn builtin controls, everything to audit, secure and lock down a machine is already included. Devices like this are a total waste of money as if your kid can work around what is supplied with the os already then this won't be any better. The only reason things like this is that parents like to spend £50 on a device that means they can remove responsibility from themselves and feel better about it.
#25
why not just BAN or Block keywords from the router?

for example: porn, sex, bla bla

then if they googled porn or even went to [url]www.pornpornorrjghuifg[/url] uiggri vh.com then it would be blocked because of the keyword blocker thingy on your router...


if anyone needs help then visit [url]www.xen-tech.co.uk[/url] and i can do this for you remotely.

meaning from my PC i can connect to yours (securely) then show you how to do the above.

p.s. i can also fix whatever other issues you have with your home or business environment.
#26
maddogb
and if the 5yr old has a masters in computing science he could probably just re write the code on the device itself????,
get real you guys most kids aren't that tech savvy, a few know applications very well and some even know how to do a bit of scripting, but i imagine only 1 in 1,000 will get anywhere near this.
most of the arguments will have been taken care of, ie locking down boot order in bios is probably within instructions for this so as creative as these points are don't think they bare any relevance in day to day


Agreed, although some kids will know how to get past these things, the majority won't. Certainly I know that my kids wouldn't know how to do it, and besides, I've always made sure that they know that I know more than they do so they think I could find them out whatever they did - even if I couldn't anyway:whistling:

I remember checking the temporary internet files about 3 years ago to find that there were several pictures of breasts and large fruit, one picture even had both. Turns out my curious 12 year old (at the time) had done a google images search for Melons.
#27
I remember checking the temporary internet files about 3 years ago to find that there were several pictures of breasts and large fruit, one picture even had both. Turns out my curious 12 year old (at the time) had done a google images search for Melons.[/QUOTE]



LOL @ google Search for melons, i remember that not so long ago... :p
#28
fat-pudding
You are wrong, very wrong. I'm remembering being a kid at school in the 80's and the warez scene back then which involved passing around floppy discs with pictures of topless girls on too, not just games :-D

Even the less tech savvy kids could follow simple instructions to get around things like this if they wanted, which in reality if someone had a device like this installed on their computer they only need to find a couple of the tech savvy kids and ask them to help and it'd be done.


I remember that in the 80s aswell, but it certainly wasn't everbody, and it certainly didn't involve a great deal of technical knowhow to load up xcopy on my Amiga and copy a disk. As for the less tech savvy kids being able to follow instructions, yes I'm sure they can, but I also think that there are a lot of kids who would be curious and try a quick goole search, find out it's blocked and just give up, or just go around to their friends house instead.

I wouldn't consider this device as an option for myself as I don't need it, but I'm sure that it would work for some. I work in school, and often help out with ICT (why can't it just be IT) and believe me there are a lot of kids who don't have a clue. Yes some are very tech savvy, but they are in the minority.

I know that they all could access dodgy sites if they really wanted to, but if this device stops it happening for some people, at home, then it must be ok for them. Incidentaly, I've not voted either way.
#29
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#30
jazzy1
why not just BAN or Block keywords from the router?

for example: porn, sex, bla bla

then if they googled porn or even went to [url]www.pornpornorrjghuifg[/url] uiggri vh.com then it would be blocked because of the keyword blocker thingy on your router...


if anyone needs help then visit [url]www.xen-tech.co.uk[/url] and i can do this for you remotely.

meaning from my PC i can connect to yours (securely) then show you how to do the above.

p.s. i can also fix whatever other issues you have with your home or business environment.



is this a joke??, no routers i have used have this facility, and don't think self promotion is allowed on here
If this product helps one person that would be alright but the divvies who are dismissing this for elaborate technical reasons do not help anyone
Despite popular belief ,truly effective and professional IT Support is less about knowing the technology than knowing people
#31
hammerick
FREE - BETTER - solution http://www1.k9webprotection.com/


how do you know its better?
#32
maddogb
is this a joke??, no routers i have used have this facility, and don't think self promotion is allowed on here
If this product helps one person that would be alright but the divvies who are dismissing this for elaborate technical reasons do not help anyone
Despite popular belief ,truly effective and professional IT Support is less about knowing the technology than knowing people


erm, the Netgear routers from AOL have that "feature" as well as the BT ones and the O2 ones too. so i'd say no its not a joke.

just by reading one sentence of my site doesnt mean its just professional IT Support!. i was aiming to do this for free for any one as i understand how much of a ****** it is trying to block sites etc from a home environment. so please take your bogshite product and stick it.
#33
hammerick
FREE - BETTER - solution http://www1.k9webprotection.com/


Good Find! i've heard some good reviews about products like these, most you have to pay for but this one seems good, better if it is deff free! :thinking::-D

where did you find it?
#34
My son can access the Internet from his phone or psp or friends etc etc so doubt if this would stop him.
#35
maddogb
is this a joke??, no routers i have used have this facility, and don't think self promotion is allowed on here
If this product helps one person that would be alright but the divvies who are dismissing this for elaborate technical reasons do not help anyone
Despite popular belief ,truly effective and professional IT Support is less about knowing the technology than knowing people



without looking spending too much of my own looking for info to prove you wrong (as i know i'm right)..

look at this http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/netgear-dg814.html

screenshot/photo/picture number 7 = BLOCK SITES! here you can enter whatever keyword of even website you want to block. for example: porn/sex/smut/adult/facebook/google. anything with those keywords in will be blocked and you get a nice black page with a red warning saying blocked by netgear bla bla bla.

i didn't self promote! i was telling people out there that this can be done. i presented my website as an act of faith and trust. would you let someone into you PC remotly without knowing anything about them? (dont answer that, i dnt wanna know). well i wouldn't. hence the reason for putting the website up there ok.

to anyone looking at blocking websites you don't want others going on, for example social networking sites, porn sites, MSN type sites, or anything then just drop me a PM and i can show you how to do this remotely (from my PC to yours, and vice versa) for free. (my aim is to help people) i understand how frustrating it can be trying to stop certain people looking at certain things. hope it helps guys. Take care
#36
waterloo
My son can access the Internet from his phone or psp or friends etc etc so doubt if this would stop him.


if you block it from the router it can.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/netgear-dg814.html


look at the link and see the image / photo with the "block sites". from there (if you have a netgear modem, comes free with AOL, its a white one) you can block what ever you wish.

you can also do this for other routers too, e.g. the BT hubs, the O2 router. etc.

if you need help doing it then drop me a private message.
#37
jazzy1
if you block it from the router it can.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/netgear-dg814.html


look at the link and see the image / photo with the "block sites". from there (if you have a netgear modem, comes free with AOL, its a white one) you can block what ever you wish.

you can also do this for other routers too, e.g. the BT hubs, the O2 router. etc.

if you need help doing it then drop me a private message.


Thanks but the way i see its around us and no matter how hard you try they will always find it.
#38
waterloo
Thanks but the way i see its around us and no matter how hard you try they will always find it.


use the keywords (for whatever you don't want your son to see) then change the password on the routers admin page. even if he uses a PSP it'll work
#39
Whats wrong with porn?
#40
jazzy1
use the keywords (for whatever you don't want your son to see) then change the password on the routers admin page. even if he uses a PSP it'll work


Unless you neighbours have an unprotected Wireless Modem.

Or most of the Wi-Fi spots that are popping up.
I know they dont have any as we were in Wetherspoons drunk and my mate could get on naughty stuff with his N95 lol

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