Pioneer BDC-202BK / Blu-ray Disc BD-ROM / DVD+/-RW / Disk Drive - £49.97 @ PC World - HotUKDeals
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Please note these are now only available in store and they are OEM. I just saw the same model on Play.com for £109.99.

BDC-202 gives Blu-ray disc playback, with DVD and CD read/write compatibility. Developed for OEMs and systems builders, the drive has BD-ROM compatibility and enables playback of quality high-definition (HD) movies on PCs. It includes read support for single and dual-layer Blu-ray disc formats together with high-speed read/write compatibility with a range of DVD and CD media. The drive supports high-speed DVD read/write (including DVD-R/RW, +R/RW and DVD-RAM) and CD read/write.

* Product Description: Pioneer BDC-202BK - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM / BD-ROM drive
* Device Type: DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM / BD-ROM drive
* Enclosure Type: Internal
* Enclosure Colour: Black
* Optical Storage: DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM / BD-ROM - 5.25" x 1/2H
* Read Speed: 32x (CD) / 12x (DVD) / 5x (BD)
* Write Speed: 24x (CD) / 12x (DVD±R) / 4x (DVD±R DL)
* CD / DVD Rewrite Speed: 24x (CD) / 6x (DVD±RW) / 5x (DVD-RAM)
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#1
Nice price, been looking for a cheap Blu-ray drive for my HTPC. Voted hot.
banned#2
Loads in Hull, Leeds, etc...in the north...not available online....

Was gonna buy but I want one that does HD-DVD too - Still hot price though
#3
Check out the review for this model Here
#4
NB this needs a HDCP graphics card and display.
#5
Talis
NB this needs a HDCP graphics card and display.


Yep if you want to play Blu-Ray Movies.
#6
Although you can get round that using AnyDVDHD, can't you?

If you want to splash out another £15, there's an LG drive at Ebuyer that also supports HD-DVD. Most won't need that, but any of us with HD-DVD discs might.
#7
If it doesn’t come with software for playing Blu-ray discs it’s probably not such a good deal, although it depends on what your particular requirements are.
#8
anyone interested in this should also consider the combo hd-dvd/blu-ray playback drive by LG, can be bought for around £65 as a retail pack including playback software.
LG GGC-H20L £67 from ebuyer.
#9
Not sure on this so please correct me if I'm wrong: reading some reviews it says it does come with a cd that contains Cyberlink BD Solution software but I reckon like always you can get the manual and drivers from the Pioneer website.

I managed to get one "confirmed" reserved but I will be amazed if its waiting for me in the store tomorrrow, sorry but I don't have much luck with pcworld.

Good find next cheapest I found have been around £70+ mark.
#10
well pc world link says:

[COLOR="Red"]Cyber link DB suite playback [/COLOR]
Multi effect liquid crystal tilt servo
Supports buffer protection of DVD's
Data buffer size 4Mb
Data transfer 1.5Gbits / second
Mounting horizontal / vertical

so im sure it comes with the software too

in my opinion the lg combi would be a better buy, plays hd-dvd's, is lightscribe, and burns backup media great too, never had any problems with mine over the last months
#11
pc_tech86
Yep if you want to play Blu-Ray Movies.

Why else would you be buying it?
It's not a Blu-ray writer.
#12
mikegray
Although you can get round that using AnyDVDHD, can't you?

30 Euros.
#13
Talis
NB this needs a HDCP graphics card and display.



Yes and a monitor, cpu, psu etc.......whats your point?
#14
Great price, shame its not online as it would cost us £15 to get to PC world!:thumbsup:
#15
Talis
30 Euros.


More than that for the HD version. Just saying that it IS possible. A new HDCP compliant video card and monitor are both more than that!
#16
danny-mac
Yes and a monitor, cpu, psu etc.......whats your point?

I would have thought that was obvious.
Someone might buy it without knowing they need HDCP.

Someone like you (who also can't read).
You don't need "a monitor", you need an HDCP monitor.
#17
mikegray
More than that for the HD version. Just saying that it IS possible. A new HDCP compliant video card and monitor are both more than that!

Exactly, so it's not exactly the bargain it appears to be.
#18
Talis
Exactly, so it's not exactly the bargain it appears to be.


I didn't say that AnyDVDHD was a bargain, it definitely isn't, but it does represent an alternative to upgrading hardware which is more.

The question is what happens when a BD-ROM playback happens through non HDCP compliant hardware - does it simply degrade to SD (a bit pointless) or not play at all (worse!)
#19
Good price, thanks - this will fit nicely in the HTPC I'm currently building :)
[Moderator]#20
Fantastic deal, heat and rep added:thumbsup:
#21
Good price.

Heat added.
#22
Do all Blu-ray drives require an HDCP graphics card and monitor?

I ran Cyberlink BD/HD Advisor on my system, which does not have HDCP and it gave "green" for Blu-ray with my Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT graphics card, so I was thinking HDCP was not required.
#23
The drives dont neeed hdcp to work, only movies need it to play, If they are locked with the hdcp system that is.
#24
I think the Cyberlink advisor is saying whether it can play Blu-ray movies, not just data from the BD-ROM.

I have seen on the Nvidia site that:

[INDENT]For desktop PCs, monitors with DVI input must have an HDCP graphics card to play. If your monitor has analog input (VGA and component), the movie should play as long as it is not protected by the Image Constraint Token (ICT). ICT (which is built into the Advanced Access Copy System copy protection) will automatically reduce the quality of the image produced by a high-definition video disc player to 540 lines of vertical resolution when the player is connected to an analog display. So, when studios enable ICT in their high definition movies, users without HDCP graphics cards can still watch the movie in reduced resolution if they have an analog display. The movie will play, but not in high definition.[/INDENT]

So, discs should play OK through VGA if ICT is not in the image - does anyone know if the movie studios are using ICT?
#25
To answer my own question, it seems that Hollywood has reportedly agreed to not activate the ICT flag for discs released until at least 2012

Therefore, I believe you should get full HD down a VGA cable.

Can anyone who has a BD-ROM drive and use VGA confirm they get full resolution (or at least up to the resolution of the display)?
#26
mikegray
I didn't say that AnyDVDHD was a bargain, it definitely isn't, but it does represent an alternative to upgrading hardware which is more.

The question is what happens when a BD-ROM playback happens through non HDCP compliant hardware - does it simply degrade to SD (a bit pointless) or not play at all (worse!)

I meant this drive isn't the bargain it appears to be.
#27
Talis
I meant this drive isn't the bargain it appears to be.


It is, considering it is the cheapest Blu-Ray drive.
banned 3 Likes #28
Ok, went into store in sheffield with reservation number. Sales guy brings item up on till, looks at price and states what a bargain that is....goes into warehouse to get the item for me and its magically out of stock:? Unfortunatley for him i work at the currys across the road, i know we usethe same system (called eclipse) and it only lets you reserve an item if there are 2 or more in stock. I asked to speak to the manager, explained the situation to him, manager looks in the back and magically the item is in stock once more...........:roll:

Based on my own working experience at currys and the dealings i have with our other store group stores i would say that the reserve and collect system is a joke and only serves to highlight the bargains to be had for staff members. The moment multiple items are reserved of a particular item, staff get curious, check the item price, find it to be cheap/misprice/bargain and buy them before the reserves are collected......waste of time.

Some people are going to say i am as bad if i work for them but i am not, its not nice having to tell a customer thats driven from x, y or z location to the store to find their item unavailable and having to tell them so. Not all staff are bad, some are honest, its usually the younger ones or the warehouse staff that are the worst but fundamentally the reserve and collect system does not work. Rant over :oops:
#29
azazle
Ok, went into store in sheffield with reservation number. Sales guy brings item up on till, looks at price and states what a bargain that is....goes into warehouse to get the item for me and its magically out of stock:? Unfortunatley for him i work at the currys across the road, i know we usethe same system (called eclipse) and it only lets you reserve an item if there are 2 or more in stock. I asked to speak to the manager, explained the situation to him, manager looks in the back and magically the item is in stock once more...........:roll:

Based on my own working experience at currys and the dealings i have with our other store group stores i would say that the reserve and collect system is a joke and only serves to highlight the bargains to be had for staff members. The moment multiple items are reserved of a particular item, staff get curious, check the item price, find it to be cheap/misprice/bargain and buy them before the reserves are collected......waste of time.

Some people are going to say i am as bad if i work for them but i am not, its not nice having to tell a customer thats driven from x, y or z location to the store to find their item unavailable and having to tell them so. Not all staff are bad, some are honest, its usually the younger ones or the warehouse staff that are the worst but fundamentally the reserve and collect system does not work. Rant over :oops:


Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
#30
I had no problem picking mine up in Edinburgh, it was sitting on the "collect" shelf. It says it supports Analogue, so looks like I will be OK even though I have no DVI/HDMI on my display.
#31
I picked this very BR drive up on Friday from our nearby PC world. I too, was amazed at the price considering I'd been looking at the LG drive mentioned here (GGC20L) and thought that was best for me. But at the price I saw this drive, it just made sense to get it and not bother with HD-DVD discs at all. Also, I've never used lightscribe and don't see the point in the business that I'm in (video production). Finally, I went online to check this drive's price and saw the cheapest at around £77. So, I'm pretty happy!

And yes, you CAN watch full HD via bog standard analog (VGA) on your computer.
#32
Agharta
If it doesn’t come with software for playing Blu-ray discs it’s probably not such a good deal, although it depends on what your particular requirements are.


This drive comes with the full HD Cyberlink suite.

Justed picked up the last 2 in the Nottingham store.

Great deal :)
#33
azazle
Ok, went into store in sheffield with reservation number. Sales guy brings item up on till, looks at price and states what a bargain that is....goes into warehouse to get the item for me and its magically out of stock:? Unfortunatley for him i work at the currys across the road, i know we usethe same system (called eclipse) and it only lets you reserve an item if there are 2 or more in stock. I asked to speak to the manager, explained the situation to him, manager looks in the back and magically the item is in stock once more...........:roll:

Based on my own working experience at currys and the dealings i have with our other store group stores i would say that the reserve and collect system is a joke and only serves to highlight the bargains to be had for staff members. The moment multiple items are reserved of a particular item, staff get curious, check the item price, find it to be cheap/misprice/bargain and buy them before the reserves are collected......waste of time.

Some people are going to say i am as bad if i work for them but i am not, its not nice having to tell a customer thats driven from x, y or z location to the store to find their item unavailable and having to tell them so. Not all staff are bad, some are honest, its usually the younger ones or the warehouse staff that are the worst but fundamentally the reserve and collect system does not work. Rant over :oops:


Thanks for being so honest! :thumbsup:

I think this also goes on at Comet were items that have been reserved suddenly go out of stock. As you said it's only a few doing it but it reflects on all staff and causes a lot of anger and complaints from customers toward the honest ones. They probably only sell them on for a profit or to their mates anyway. :x
#34
Ordered at Sheffield, then was called to say it was in stock in error - WTF!

Anyway, went into Leeds City amd it was on the shelf for £140, but went through the till no problems at £49.97.

Might be worth not reserving, going in to see if its on the shelf before they get wind and clear them off.

Looked like the last one in Leeds BTW
#35
They ought to rename the service "Tip off the staff".
#36
Thanks OP, Heat added, Got lucky, Someones [email protected] order had not been picked up and expired from Kinnaird Edinburgh store, thank you whoever you are :thumbsup:
#37
Dammit, now im annoyed!

The drives fitted but Vista won't detect it..........grr. A bargain, except i'll be bald by the time I ever get HD on my HTPC
:x
#38
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139985

£66.79 for a retail box including HD software.

This has got to be the better deal with HD-DVD prices as they are:?

Works fine in Vista too!!!
#39
Yeh for £16 extra you can have hd dvd playback as well.
#40
After reserving one at Stockport PCWorld had a 30 minute wait while they went to look for it and guess what, they could'nt find any and said it must be a stock error.won't be spending any more money in that place.

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