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Pioneer KURO KRL-32V LCD £639.00 @ RicherSounds

£639.00 @ Richer Sounds
Before you say it; I know that in the current climate this is quite steep for a 32" TV, however, take it from me that this is worth every penny. I needed a discreet 32" LCD for a small room and found … Read More
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7y, 11m agoFound 7 years, 11 months ago
Before you say it; I know that in the current climate this is quite steep for a 32" TV, however, take it from me that this is worth every penny. I needed a discreet 32" LCD for a small room and found this TV at what I would consider a good price for the quality. I took a walk to my local Richer Sounds outlet and (stepping out of my usual "I only buy Sony" routine) I decided to ignore the manufacturers logos and simply compare picture quality. My attention was drawn straight to the Pioneer KURO KRL32V. It beat other screens on picture quality hands down. Pioneer generally excel in the plasma range however they have broken into the LCD market with this 32" full HD model. Easy to set-up and install and complete with FREEVIEW. I will now consider purchasing a blue-ray and SKY HD to fully benefit from this machines capabilities. It was given positive reviews in NOV 08 and only scored poorly with it's price tag of £1200-1300. Richer Sounds have more than halved this and I purchased the 5 year warranty for ten percent of the £639 price. If you get a chance pop into a Richer Sounds outlet and make up your own mind. Now out of stock online but available at your local outlets. A real thumbs up!
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#1
Far to expensive to worth buying. My current Panasonic cost £399 and scored 7.8 on cnet this scored 8.6 which really isn't that impressive for an extra £239. Crazy price for a 32inch.

Cheaper here by £1 and easier to get as theres more stores.

http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/503452/PIONEER-KRL-32V/?cm_mmc=Pricerunner-_-Feed-_-LCD%20and%20Plasma%20TVs-_-503452_PIONEER_KRL-32V&_$ja=tsid:8359|cc:|prd:503452|cat:LCD+and+Plasma+TVs
#2
Adam2050
Far to expensive to worth buying. My current Panasonic cost £399 and scored 7.8 on cnet this scored 8.6 which really isn't that impressive for an extra £239. Crazy price for a 32inch.

Cheaper here by £1 and easier to get as theres more stores.

http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/503452/PIONEER-KRL-32V/?cm_mmc=Pricerunner-_-Feed-_-LCD%20and%20Plasma%20TVs-_-503452_PIONEER_KRL-32V&_$ja=tsid:8359|cc:|prd:503452|cat:LCD+and+Plasma+TVs



you know i often agree with you adam...now i wouldnt buy this, as im more of a size and quality man then just pure quality and as i only spent £379.99 on a 42" LG Plasma...ill go get another for the bedroom at £639 for one 32".
However the KURO range is defintely one of the best range in the world at the moment.

If you look how expensive the KURO range is especially on the bigger panels its scary! But ive viewed one (the older model i now believe) which was a 50" and they are truely stunning screens...
#3
I don't disagree with the set. I disagree with it being worth wild on a 32". I do want a bigger screen though. Though its in my bedroom so big enough.
#4
Adam2050
I don't disagree with the set. I disagree with it being worth wild on a 32". I do want a bigger screen though. Though its in my bedroom so big enough.


yeah i had a 32" in the bedroom when i bought my 42" for the living room, but couldnt justify it, although it was nice, so the mother had it...now she wants me to wall mount it for her too...oh and did i mention i had to buy her speakers too? which now means she wants a av reciever to run it through...:w00t:
#5
I heared Pioneer is pulling out of the tv market altogether and these Kuro sets are like hot cakes now.

also another rumor...these panels, are actually supplied by panasonic, which panasonic doesnt use in their own range....which is strange:roll:
#6
Got one and worth every penny.
Awesome picture quality and in a different league to all standard tvs.
Bob
#7
I would say hot, more for the quality of the Kuro range rather than the price.
#8
potnoodle
also another rumor...these panels, are actually supplied by panasonic, which panasonic doesnt use in their own range....which is strange:roll:


same panels tho :? different chipset...............
#9
People that vote cold are the same people that buy cheap concentrated Apple Juice from Asda for 9p a litre and are enraged that Freshly squeezed apple juice is £1.20 a litre.
1 Like #10
thekudos
People that vote cold are the same people that buy cheap concentrated Apple Juice from Asda for 9p a litre and are enraged that Freshly squeezed apple juice is £1.20 a litre.


and the people who vote hot are the opposite.............

who are you talking to? whats your point?
banned#11
thekudos
People that vote cold are the same people that buy cheap concentrated Apple Juice from Asda for 9p a litre and are enraged that Freshly squeezed apple juice is £1.20 a litre.


spot on.
#12
thekudos;5042650
People that vote cold are the same people that buy cheap concentrated Apple Juice from Asda for 9p a litre and are enraged that Freshly squeezed apple juice is £1.20 a litre.


thats completely different
#13
phatboy123
and the people who vote hot are the opposite.............

who are you talking to? whats your point?


Well said:thumbsup:
#14
benjyyy
thats completely different


It's the same.
#15
thekudos
People that vote cold are the same people that buy cheap concentrated Apple Juice from Asda for 9p a litre and are enraged that Freshly squeezed apple juice is £1.20 a litre.


Well. . . 9p a litre for juice made from concentrate would certainly be a hot deal, where as £1.20 a litre for freshly squeezed wouldn't.

This would be a hot deal if it were significantly cheaper than anywhere else and provides good value. I'm not convinced it does.
#16
thekudos
People that vote cold are the same people that buy cheap concentrated Apple Juice from Asda for 9p a litre and are enraged that Freshly squeezed apple juice is £1.20 a litre.


And people who vote hot are the same people that thinks a toaster which has 100s of crystals on it for £80 (but 50% off!) is still worth every penny! *cough* muppets *cough* :thumbsup: :roll:

(it was on here a few weeks ago)
#17
People paying this sort of money are on crack

Go straight to the horse they are sharp panels

Samsung panels blow sharp's away
go get your self a 40" Samsung 6 Series for £100 less than this

Its just idiots buying for names sake again
no doubt replacing theyr plasma's
#18
SHARP AND PIONEER CONDUCT JOINT PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT
As part of a business and capital alliance formed by Pioneer (Tokyo, Japan) and Sharp Corp. (Osaka, Japan) in 2007, the two companies are conducting joint product development by making use of each other’s resources in their respective fields of expertise. In the field of flat-panel TVs, Pioneer is taking part in Sharp’s development of acoustic systems for ultra-thin, flat-panel TVs. By leveraging its acoustic technologies, Pioneer aims to develop acoustic systems employing ultra-thin speakers that still provide good sound quality for supply to Sharp. Sharp will supply Pioneer with LCD TVs based on its technologies. These LCD TVs will be launched first in Europe this Fall and the lineup of LCD TVs will be expanded steadily. Plans also call for engineers from Pioneer and Sharp to team up to develop LCD TVs that carry on Pioneer’s “KURO” series’ legacy.
In related news, citing difficulties maintaining the cost competitiveness of plasma display panels at projected sales volumes going forward, Pioneer has decided to terminate in-house plasma display panel production and to obtain these panels externally, after panel production for its next series of models is finished. The company characterizes the move as one that will allow it to transition its business model for displays from vertically integrated, capital-intensive operations to a leaner business model geared to making value-added product proposals. At present, Pioneer is in discussions on the feasibility of procuring panel modules that may incorporate the company’s proprietary technologies. Details are forthcoming.
#19
Nope
Panasonic's Are Sharp also

potnoodle


also another rumor...these panels, are actually supplied by panasonic, which panasonic doesnt use in their own range....which is strange:roll:
#20
potnoodle
I heared Pioneer is pulling out of the tv market altogether and these Kuro sets are like hot cakes now.

also another rumor...these panels, are actually supplied by panasonic, which panasonic doesnt use in their own range....which is strange:roll:



You are partially correct with this. Pioneer have now left the plasma market as they were partnering with Panasonic for a new factory which would produce the new plasma panel for both pioneer and Panasonic. this factory has now been put on hold forcing pioneers decision.

This set is one of the brand new pioneer lcd screens which have only been available for a short period. These use the sharp lcd panel and then use pioneer kuro technology to improve on the picture.
#21
Remember Peeps that the picture quality maybe great but the fact its a 32", from even a short distance(average tv bedroom distance :) ) the clarity will be worse for viewing those bluray 1080p Hi-def movies compared to a larger tv, assuming you're interested in Hi-def images of course.
[mod]#22
Shonk
People paying this sort of money are on crack

Go straight to the horse they are sharp panels

Samsung panels blow sharp's away
go get your self a 40" Samsung 6 Series for £100 less than this

Its just idiots buying for names sake again
no doubt replacing theyr plasma's


lol on crack hahaha
#23
IF I had the money I would only buy Pioneer.
I've seen how much better they are than the rest of TVs out there.
OK a lot of TV share panels, but so much is down to chipset and software to make a big difference.
#24
tintanman
Remember Peeps that the picture quality maybe great but the fact its a 32", from even a short distance(average tv bedroom distance :) ) the clarity will be worse for viewing those bluray 1080p Hi-def movies compared to a larger tv, assuming you're interested in Hi-def images of course.
#25
Sorry for being ignorant, but why would hi def clarity be worse compared to a larger tv, and what size panel is required to make hi def blu ray worthwhile
#26
Shonk
People paying this sort of money are on crack

Go straight to the horse they are sharp panels

Samsung panels blow sharp's away
go get your self a 40" Samsung 6 Series for £100 less than this

Its just idiots buying for names sake again
no doubt replacing theyr plasma's


you wont buy any technology then mate. you cant compare japanese products with koreans.
samsungs and lgs were miles away than pios.

both sammys and lgs developed and marketed their products based on average consumer income thus focusing on profits rather than quality. thats why they may and will always provide cheaper products. whereas pios focusing on innovation of products and targeted on top notch audio and video quality. thats why you need to spend more to have them.

you can try avforums and you'll find that most sammys and lgs owners have a lot of issues with their purchases. dont just buy a tele by the descriptions/specs that comes with it. explore what other owners thought about any brand you fancy.

have had my kuro 5090 for nearly 7 months now and so far no complaint or whatsoever.

yes pio did shut their plasma factory (since they were facing 3 years straight losses) but in terms of consumer act they have to maintain the production of plasma/lcd parts (for warranty purposses) for about 5-7 years to come and they were also already partnership with panasonics to produce another superior plasmas..or even laser tvs/ oleds in the future.

...but i bet you'll stick with your sammys dont you?
#27
marktq1
Sorry for being ignorant, but why would hi def clarity be worse compared to a larger tv, and what size panel is required to make hi def blu ray worthwhile


thats not true actually. they are all related to one and another. a lot of factors.

your media resources, equipment to play your media, cables you use, quality of your tele, your distance of viewing, location of your tele set, lighting, your viewing (eyes) condition, etc..

for instance if you have a hd ready (720p) 32 inch tele with blu-ray (1080i/p) as your media, you wont be able to track full details available on your bluray compared to if you have a full hd (1080p) set.

as to the size, thats a personal preference actually but once youve got bluray as your source or sky hd / v+ hd for instance, that is truly up to you. some ppl would say 40 inch and above might do it but for me that is totally subjective.
#28
marktq1
Sorry for being ignorant, but why would hi def clarity be worse compared to a larger tv, and what size panel is required to make hi def blu ray worthwhile


It's ok ignorance is just a question unanswered. No, the clarity is when you can make out the image, it's found 32" lcd's are quite difficult to determine detail differences from a 1080p and a 720p(remember thats over a 2x ratio of pixel detail) from a fairly short tv viewing distance. some suggest 40" being a minimum. it may not be the case if you have the tv on your lap thou.
#29
Do Pioneer TV's have a "tint" control for PAL pictures? Panasonic's only enable their tint control for NTSC signals but I want to have an active tint control for live telly too (my Pana plasma is too red even after ISF calibration).

If not, do ANY UK TV's offer a fully-working tint control for PAL and NTSC?
#30
GreenGem
Well. . . 9p a litre for juice made from concentrate would certainly be a hot deal, where as £1.20 a litre for freshly squeezed wouldn't.

This would be a hot deal if it were significantly cheaper than anywhere else and provides good value. I'm not convinced it does.


He never said they were hot deals, he just said the people that voted cold for this are the people that buy 9p a litre crap instead of "that gourmet sh!t".

FWIW I buy freshly pressed juice (Don Simon Premium range) from ASDA £1 for a litre at 2 for £1.50.

Bargain and tasty.
#31
I don't think it's right to compare the Kuro plasmas (proven industry leading technology over nearly 10 years??) with these new Kuro LCDs.

I think it is right to compare with other LCDs on the market and looking at quality alone, then this is a very good product.

As for it being "just a sharp panel"... in the mass production of anything, there will be fluctuations in the quality, Pioneer only use the highest grade panels used - hence the higher quality, and generally the higher price.

Voted hot as this is 10% cheaper than anywhere else and is from a reputable high street retailer.
#32
emmahannah69;5044268
Do Pioneer TV's have a "tint" control for PAL pictures? Panasonic's only enable their tint control for NTSC signals but I want to have an active tint control for live telly too (my Pana plasma is too red even after ISF calibration).

If not, do ANY UK TV's offer a fully-working tint control for PAL and NTSC?


I doubt it as the PAL doesn't require it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tint_control

I also have a Panny plasma and have mine set on cool colour mode to reduce redness.
#33
Shonk;5043576
go get your self a 40" Samsung 6 Series for £100 less than this

Adam2050;5041873
I don't disagree with the set. I disagree with it being worth wild on a 32". I do want a bigger screen though. Though its in my bedroom so big enough.

Some of us aren't telly addicts and don't want a huge TV to dominate the room, but still want a high quality picture. Personally I hate the look of living rooms where a you have a massive TV (usually permanently switched on even when nobody's watching the rubbish that's on) which spoils a room with any aspirations of taste. I have a 22' x 24' room and a 32" TV is perfect, so thanks for sharing the deal.
I'm still undecided on the model I will buy (according to AVForums new Panny out shortly may be good) but will definitely be 32" and this is a decent price for a good quality set.
Adam2050;5041651
Cheaper here by £1 and easier to get as theres more stores

Seems a bit churlish to slate someone for posting a deal 0.15% more than the best you can manage.
#34
For the average person to differentiaite between 1080 and 720 on a 32'' set you would have to sit less than 4 foot away from the screen.
To differentiaite between 720 and Standard TV on a 32'' set you would have to sit less than 6 foot away from the screen.
Hence if your sticking it on the wall at the end of your bed, then save your money.

I have a graph somewhere if anyone wants a copy e-mailed
#35
MadeDixonsCry
He never said they were hot deals, he just said the people that voted cold for this are the people that buy 9p a litre crap instead of "that gourmet sh!t".

FWIW I buy freshly pressed juice (Don Simon Premium range) from ASDA £1 for a litre at 2 for £1.50.

Bargain and tasty.


This is a Hot Deals site though and that's what people should be voting hot or cold on.

btw I buy the Don Simon Juice as well.
:p
#36
I went down to Empire Direct on Saturday (Roundhay, Leeds)
There closing down sale was afwul!
Everything was just 30% off RRP - so all the prices were higher than the Internet!

However they did have this Kuro 32V behind the counter (display model) for £425 - thought it was quite good for that price. Might be useful for someone on here.
#37
faisal_uk
I went down to Empire Direct on Saturday (Roundhay, Leeds)
There closing down sale was afwul!
Everything was just 30% off RRP - so all the prices were higher than the Internet!

However they did have this Kuro 32V behind the counter (display model) for £425 - thought it was quite good for that price. Might be useful for someone on here.


useful heads up post faisal, but be sure to find out how long the screen has been on for (engineer menu >> running times, etc) of ot#s a display model.

might not turn out to be much of a saving.
#38
I have two trains of thought on high end TVs like this. There's the law of diminishing returns i.e. is the picture really going to be twice as good as a £300 32" LCD?
On the other hand you tend not to regret buying the best you can afford more than wasting money on something cruddy.
#39
MadeDixonsCry;5043298
It's the same.


I found that I couldn't get a very good freeview picture on the 9p apple juice. I haven't tried the freshly squeezed so I can't comment.
#40
Shonk
Nope
Panasonic's Are Sharp also


This is not correct.

We are talking about LCD's

The Pioneer LCD's use Sharp ASV panels. These have a similar technology and performance to Samsung S-PVA panels but have a better response time.

Panasonic LCD's use IPS-Alpha panels in all but their cheapest sets that use S-IPS panels from LG. IPS- Alpha started as a joint venture between Panasonic and I think Hitachi but is now a 100% Panasonic subsidiary.

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