Pioneer VSX1017 AV. 7 Channel A/V Receiver with HDMI Switching, MCACC, USB Host,HDMI interface - £249.90 Delivered @ Peter Tyson - HotUKDeals
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Pioneer VSX1017 AV. 7 Channel A/V Receiver with HDMI Switching, MCACC, USB Host and Ready for iPod
Crystal-clear playback of 1080p signals via HDMI (version 1.3) , making it an ideal component for full high definition home entertainment
Connect a USB memory stick to the front of the amplifier and listen to compressed audio files; the system will automatically enhance and virtually restore rich sound
The 1017AV is fully ready for iPod® both audio, photo and video. All that you need to do is connect and play
At the touch of a button, 5-band MCACC system will optimally tune the amplifier to the size of your living room space and speaker placement
The Front Stage Surround Advance feature allows you to place your speakers in the traditional 5.1 surround setting around your living room, or alternatively place them alongside your television. This is ideal if you have limited space, or dont necessarily want an invasion of electronics equipment around the room
Output Power per Channel: 150Watts @ 6 Ohms
Input Connections: 2 x HDMI, 2 x coaxial, 4 x optical, 3 x RCA Audio, 5 x RCA A/V, 5 x S-video, 5 x composite, 3 x component, 1 x USB host, 7.1 multi-channel
Output Connections: 1 x Audio, 2 x A/V, 1 x HDMI, 3 x S-video, 1 x component, 1 x composite, pre-amp (all 7.1 ch.)
Surround Sound Formats:Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II, Dolby Pro Logic IIx, DTS, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS Neo: 6, DTS 96/24, WMA 9 Pro
Advance surround modes: 11+1
Speaker A/B. 2nd zone + Bi-Amp feature
Dimensions (W x H x D) 420 x 173 x 465 mm - 15Kg
2 years warranty
Free next day delivery
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#2
http://www.pioneer.co.uk/images/products/avamplifierreceiver/pioneer/vsx1017avsback_large.jpg
#3
Also a previous version VSX917V - £209.90, here - http://www.petertyson.co.uk/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/pioneer_vsx917v.shtml
#4
how does this compare to the onkyo 605 / or yamaha http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/193242/yamaha-dsp-ax761t-amplifier-nsp-110/ im after?
#5
Seems a very good price.
According to the specs at RicherSounds it’s a bit lacking in the audio department especially with regard to HDMI.

Dolby Digital Plus/Dolby Truehd – No
Dts High Res Audio/dts Master Audio – No
Hdmi Audio - no
#6
Agree that it's lacking Dolby Digital TrueHD.

Perfect if you don't have Blu-Ray or HD-DVD yet.

HDMI switching will be useful if you have a single HDMI TV but have an upscaling DVD and Sky HD for example.

150 Watts per channel - will be great for films!

Shame it's not got an extra set of speaker outputs though.
#7
no sub £500 amps have DD trueHD or DTS-HD! so i think lacking is the wrong thing to say!
#8
Looks a good bargain this, I would choose this over onkyo or yamaha personally, possibly only as I have had pioneer AV amps before and they have always performed amazingly well.
#9
Bought this from same site. Black version, cannot fault it. Very HOT
#10
RiKx
no sub £500 amps have DD trueHD or DTS-HD! so i think lacking is the wrong thing to say!

The lack of audio over HDMI does seem a weakness though.
#11
Or....Buy it brand new from the same shop via their Ebay store and get it for £239...??! with a 2yr warranty!!

Can't post link, but just type in pioneer VSX1017 into the ebay search. there is only one seller.
#12
Agharta
The lack of audio over HDMI does seem a weakness though.


it still handles audio via hdmi - its just that its dolby digital / dts not uncompressed audio that you get from HD sources (this is software dependant not all HD discs have uncompressed audio). Also if you have bought a dedicated blu-ray or HD-dvd player and if your gonna couple it with a surround amp, he chances are that u'll spend at least 500 on an amp so this wouldn't interest you.

ps3 / xbox dont output HD audio just DD / DTS:whistling:
#13
How does this compare to the Yamaha DSP-AX761 here http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191075
#14
umm ps3 does do pcm






RiKx
it still handles audio via hdmi - its just that its dolby digital / dts not uncompressed audio that you get from HD sources (this is software dependant not all HD discs have uncompressed audio). Also if you have bought a dedicated blu-ray or HD-dvd player and if your gonna couple it with a surround amp, he chances are that u'll spend at least 500 on an amp so this wouldn't interest you.

ps3 / xbox dont output HD audio just DD / DTS:whistling:
#15
umm ps3 does do pcm over hdmi






RiKx
it still handles audio via hdmi - its just that its dolby digital / dts not uncompressed audio that you get from HD sources (this is software dependant not all HD discs have uncompressed audio). Also if you have bought a dedicated blu-ray or HD-dvd player and if your gonna couple it with a surround amp, he chances are that u'll spend at least 500 on an amp so this wouldn't interest you.

ps3 / xbox dont output HD audio just DD / DTS:whistling:
#16
what gets me with all these amps is they put 7 ****** composite ports in
people going for stuff like this want good quality audio but dont care about the picture?

where's the rgb scarts

it seems im stuck on my pioneer vsx-301s until there's something that does what i want

that being

2 rgb scart
3 hdmi
all the hd audio formats
auto hdmi+scart switching

seems a good price for the amp though
just having a moan about amps in general
#17
this amp is 399 @ richturd sounds!!! great find, cheaper on ebay from same folk tho as already stated. Shame it doesn't do multi-channel over HDMI. You might be better off getting the STRDG910 for £300

http://www.froogle.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SONY-STRDG910-SIL

no THX cert but upscales everything to HDMI 1080 which is a useful feature, only one lead to tv needed! Cant vouch for the sound quality though.
#18
Shonk
umm ps3 does do pcm over hdmi


ok yeah i guess i should have been clearer. They will output pcm but not DDP or trueHD or DTSMD (or whatever its called these days!) then u need hdmi pcm compatible amp.

also what do you want RGB switching for? hardly any need for it these days as everything can use component / hdmi inputs. except freeview / SD sky boxes and if you really wanna carry on using those via amp you can always use a scart to s-video cable which is virtually as good as rgb and then get an amp like that sony i posted to upscale the signal over the HDMI.....:thumbsup:
#19
rgb is far superior to s-vid

my digi cable box is scart only
and dvd player but have no problems getting shot of that

its just nuts that they put 300 composite ports in but not the far superior rgb scarts

from a technical standpoint rgb is better than yuv component as well apart from component does higher resolutions

rgb is a full on vga port just limited to lower resolutions

even if they put some bnc rgb connectors in it would be good
as you could get a scart to bnc cable

i should realy just plug the cable box into the tv and run the audio on its own to the amp
and get a new amp

but i love my vsx-c301-s so much
#20
Shonk
rgb is far superior to s-vid

i should realy just plug the cable box into the tv and run the audio on its own to the amp
and get a new amp

but i love my vsx-c301-s so much


Thats what i do :thumbsup: frees up video inputs on the amp as well. i have many consoles...... :-D
#21
Shonk
where's the rgb scarts

Only Europe uses RGB SCART, so any receiver taking this route would be useless for sale in the rest of the world ... hence your Pioneer VSX-C301-S is pretty much the only one !
Shonk
it seems im stuck on my pioneer vsx-301s until there's something that does what i want

that being

2 rgb scart
3 hdmi
all the hd audio formats
auto hdmi+scart switching

You can already have this functionality by adding a simple RGB SCART switcher to any modern Receiver, like the old Joytech box http://www.darkplanets.co.uk/product_info.asp?pid=1337

It's Remote Control, so you can integrate it into your Logitech Harmony setup - you now have seamless RGB SCART switching.

It's worth noting that RGB SCART has been replaced with DVI/HDMI/VGA/Component, so this is only an issue for legacy devices.

Shonk
rgb is far superior to s-vid

No, it's pretty much identical, given decent cabling.
Shonk

my digi cable box is scart only
and dvd player but have no problems getting shot of that

If you have old kit that's RGB-only, then you either need an RGB Switch (like the Joytech above), or you need to get rid of it !
Shonk
its just nuts that they put 300 composite ports in but not the far superior rgb scarts

As above, Composite is worldwide, and absolutely everything supports it. I have no idea why anyone would actually use it today, but that's a seperate issue :)
Shonk
from a technical standpoint rgb is better than yuv component as well apart from component does higher resolutions. rgb is a full on vga port just limited to lower resolutions

Component is efectively losslessly-compressed RGB - once your telly uncompresses the Component signal, they're one and the same. You should get almost identical results from SD video via RGB / Component / SVideo, given decent kit. If you don't, then your Telly and/or source and/or cabling aren't upto scratch !
Shonk
even if they put some bnc rgb connectors in it would be good
as you could get a scart to bnc cable

SCART's time has passed - if you really need it, then use a seperate switcher.
#22
Shonk
umm ps3 does do pcm over hdmi


It indeed does - I hate the way this argument occurs every time an amp is posted and causes pages & pages of argument that do nothing but confuse deal hunters :x

#23
RiKx
no sub £500 amps have DD trueHD or DTS-HD! so i think lacking is the wrong thing to say!



The Onkyo 605 does and it costs £399.
#24
I've got this amp and it does all the new HD multi-channel audio sounds through the HDMI. It's an awesome machine.
#25
I have this amp running my bose setup, can't fault it. Autosetup is pretty cool too.
#26
Only one HDMI out? Useless! I can't wait till manufacturers realise people need more than one HDMI out from an amp.
#27
Will this let you hook up video sources via component and composite and than let you output it via HDMI?
#28
RiKx
this amp is 399 @ richturd sounds!!! great find, cheaper on ebay from same folk tho as already stated. Shame it doesn't do multi-channel over HDMI. You might be better off getting the STRDG910 for £300

http://www.froogle.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SONY-STRDG910-SIL

no THX cert but upscales everything to HDMI 1080 which is a useful feature, only one lead to tv needed! Cant vouch for the sound quality though.


Richer Sounds will price match and knock off another tenner if the retailer confirms its in stock...

So £239, 'free' warranty and take it home today!
#29
Minstadave
Will this let you hook up video sources via component and composite and than let you output it via HDMI?


Not to the best of my knowledge. As far as I'm aware, you can only output what you put in.
#30
RiKx
no sub £500 amps have DD trueHD or DTS-HD! so i think lacking is the wrong thing to say!


The Onkyo 605 does and I've just bought one for £295 delivered. :whistling:
#31
voobydooz
The Onkyo 605 does and it costs £399.


Indeed it does, and mine only cost £330.......would point out though that I have yet to see any AV equipment that will output bitstream HD sound formats to it though, so it's a bit of a waste of time (ie almost everything mainstream decodes HD audio and outputs via PCM).
#32
Hi, careful on this, your better off buying an onkyo 605/606, as it has the DTS Master Audio+ True HD. Its £399 everywere.
#33
Hi Azzin, were did you get this from at this price?
#34
I'm pretty sure you can upgrade the firmware on the Onkyo 605 to Dolby True HD
#35
no hdmi audio?

think ill stick with my onkyo TX-SR606 :p
#36
I see Home Cinema Choice gave it 5*. Does anyone know if What HiFi reviewed this?
#37
RiKx
no sub £500 amps have DD trueHD or DTS-HD! so i think lacking is the wrong thing to say!


Agreed! You have to pay a big premium for DD TrueHD & DTS-HD...
#38
My bad th Onkyo 605 does have hd decoding for £400. buy by christ its ugly! does it sound any good? anyone own one? i know it got goos reviews but they offset sound / features / cost..... Pesonally id rather buy something that sounded better with slighly less faeatures.... let me know!
#39
Bit off topic (sorry) but can anyone suggest a cheap AV amp that has optical inputs. Want a decent sound but don't want to pay more than £200 for just an amp. Something that comes with speakers would be even better. Sorry but I'm a bit of a noob with amps and don't really know where to look.
#40
4 ppl with ps3s using HDMI master audio you will need The Onkyo 605 £399.

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