PowerColor HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 Graphics Card £102.42 @ Ebuyer - HotUKDeals
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Graphics Engine - RADEON HD4870
Video Memory - 1GB GDDR5
Engine Clock - 770MHz
Memory Clock - 900MHz (3.6Gbps)
Memory Interface - 256bit
DirectX Support - 10.1
Bus Standard - PCI-Express 2.0

i think this is the 'Stalker Edition' (manufacturer #: AX4870 1GBD5-G) so you get a copy of 'stalker clear sky' included.
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2 Likes #1
Right now, these are under-priced and the 5x series are over-priced (and AMD are thinking about putting the price of the 5x series up even further due to demand).
Power consumption gives the 5x a lead over the 4x series and, if your usage is high enough, could be the reason to choose the 5x over the 4x right now even give the inflated prices. Otherwise, the 4870 outstrips the 57x0 cards and seems to be the better choice.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_5770_5750_performance/
Depending on how often you upgrade your graphics card, the 5770 is either a good buy, or a pass in favor of the GeForce GTX 260 or Radeon 4870.

If you plan to upgrade again in 6-12 months, you’ll probably want to go with a Radeon 4870 1GB or GeForce GTX 260. Thanks to their superior memory bandwidth, these cards perform better than the 5770 in today’s games, which are largely based on DX9 or DX10.

As you saw in our BattleForge benchmarks though, the tables turn in DX11 apps. Here the 5770 is able to leverage DirectX 11 to gain a performance edge over the Radeon 4870, even though the 5770 is giving up significant amount of memory bandwidth to the 4870. Future DX11 titles like Aliens vs Predator and DiRT 2 will be using DX11 even more extensively than BattleForge, so it may be able to pull away even further from the 4870. Therefore if you plan to hold on to your card a little longer, say 2 or 3 years, you’ll definitely be better off in the long run going with Radeon 5770.


Added to this, nVidia should be releasing their new series of cards (which may or may not be here by christmas). There are some issues with nVidia's apparent choice of direction, away from gaming as a priority and more towards GPGPU applications.

No-one knows what level of gaming performance nVidia will bring to the table with their new series so, for the moment, AMD can charge a premium for their cards as there's no real competition.

As with all computer upgrades, the choice is simple: if you need it now, buy it now; if not, then wait a month because it'll more than likely be cheaper or faster (unless the £ crashes !)
#2
I have one of these and although it is a good card they are a bit louder than ther reference card at idle and the put a lot of heat inside your case so only really any good if you have a decent case with plenty of ventilation, Personally i would pay a bit extra for the reference card,
#3
personally I'd pay a bit extra again and get a GTX260 with a proper cooling solution ;-)
#4
niceguyrichy
personally I'd pay a bit extra again and get a GTX260 with a proper cooling solution ;-)


Why would you go for a GTX260 which in most benchmarks/games is comfortably outperformed by this card. That is unless you know somewhere you can pick up one for around £80:thumbsup:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/benchmarks,64.html
#5
Follwoing the Graphics Card discussion, does anyone know where I can get either a 8800Gt or 9800GT????

I had a problem with my HD4850 and am scared of catalyst drivers....therefore going Nvidia for my current system....

cheers
#6
spitfire51
Follwoing the Graphics Card discussion, does anyone know where I can get either a 8800Gt or 9800GT????

I had a problem with my HD4850 and am scared of catalyst drivers....therefore going Nvidia for my current system....

cheers


Try ebuyer or tekheads they normally stock most cards, and the prices are much better than you'll normally get in PC world or whatever.
#7
So which is better this or the 260?
#8
Avenger
So which is better this or the 260?


4870 is definatly better
#9
Nice price for one of these, heat added.

ATi certainly make some nice graphics cards but sadly their drivers are in my opinion (and that of a stack of professional reviewers) a very much 2nd best to Nvidia's.

For that reason alone I stick with Nvidia.

Mind you, I got off of the daft graphics card update every 8mths treadmill some time ago.
I find that for my needs the 9600GT does everything I need right now.
I'm more into finding quiet energy-efficient cards than out-right 'horsepower' as I'm more interested in HD video than games.
#10
spitfire51
Follwoing the Graphics Card discussion, does anyone know where I can get either a 8800Gt or 9800GT????

I had a problem with my HD4850 and am scared of catalyst drivers....therefore going Nvidia for my current system....

cheers


Pointless going for either of them cards. The GTX250 outperforms them and is incredibly cheap at the moment. The 8800 runs too hot for most people, and requires a good cooling solution.

If you like the idea of folding the GTX260 is a better choice and can play latest games comfortably at 1650x1080. The 4870 also uses more wattage and produces more heat than the GTX260, so unless its vital getting fps per £ then this would satisfy your choice for the 4870. If i were you, id opt for a GTX 275 or Ati 4890, as they are really cheap now and much better.

(references - CustomPC magazine, Bit-tech Website/forums @ [url]www.bit-tech.net[/url]
#11
Anyone know of any good 4890 deals atm, was hoping they'd drop to the £100 mark with the release of the 58xx series.
#12
what is meant by 'folding'?

LightningPete
Pointless going for either of them cards. The GTX250 outperforms them and is incredibly cheap at the moment. The 8800 runs too hot for most people, and requires a good cooling solution.

If you like the idea of folding the GTX260 is a better choice and can play latest games comfortably at 1650x1080. The 4870 also uses more wattage and produces more heat than the GTX260, so unless its vital getting fps per £ then this would satisfy your choice for the 4870. If i were you, id opt for a GTX 275 or Ati 4890, as they are really cheap now and much better.

(references - CustomPC magazine, Bit-tech Website/forums @ [url]www.bit-tech.net[/url]
#13
zombie
4870 is definatly better

no its not.
they are almost identical in gaming performance, but the 260 runs cooler, always has a better cooling solution, and will OC better.
#14
Got this edition, it comes with Stalker Clear Sky and has a custom dual slot cooler. Idles at 50ish
#15
niceguyrichy
no its not.
they are almost identical in gaming performance, but the 260 runs cooler, always has a better cooling solution, and will OC better.


Agreed. They are prettymuch on a par with regards to performance and the OC / cooling etc is debatable but saying the 4870 is 'definatly better' [sic] is not true at all.
#16
LightningPete
Pointless going for either of them cards. The GTX250 outperforms them and is incredibly cheap at the moment. The 8800 runs too hot for most people, and requires a good cooling solution.

If you like the idea of folding the GTX260 is a better choice and can play latest games comfortably at 1650x1080. The 4870 also uses more wattage and produces more heat than the GTX260, so unless its vital getting fps per £ then this would satisfy your choice for the 4870. If i were you, id opt for a GTX 275 or Ati 4890, as they are really cheap now and much better.

(references - CustomPC magazine, Bit-tech Website/forums @ [url]www.bit-tech.net[/url]


How do you know he's not going for a 8800GT SLi Setup? In which case SLi out performs a single GTX250...
#17
Pay £20 more and get a HD 5770. Awesome piece of equipment for the price
#18
For those claiming the GTX260 isn't better, make sure you're comparing the 1GB version to this not the lesser ones. Always nVidia. Play have a PNY GTX260 1GB for £99.99.
#19
a3lawy
For those claiming the GTX260 isn't better, make sure you're comparing the 1GB version to this not the lesser ones. Always nVidia. Play have a PNY GTX260 1GB for £99.99.


I couldn't find the PNY card on Play.com unless I have gonde blind...
#20
it depends on what games your playing really as to which card is best, nvidia cards have the additional features but are generally more expensive where as ati cards tend to be that bit cheaper. unless you get a decent aftermarket cooler on the ati cards the gtx 260 is a better overclocker and is quieter. I recently paid under 100 squids for the Dark Knight 512mb 4870 from novatech which I thought was good at the time. this is still a cracking price though
#21
a3lawy
For those claiming the GTX260 isn't better, make sure you're comparing the 1GB version to this not the lesser ones. Always nVidia. Play have a PNY GTX260 1GB for £99.99.


There is no 1GB version.....and there is no such card on play. obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
#23
dude786;6751317
what is meant by 'folding'?

Folding is the use of the computer to fold protein models, most commonly for [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL] which helps Stanford University with modeling proteins for medical research.
#24
I am running a 4670 at the mo - would I see a huge improvement ?
#25
leedale30;6767106
I am running a 4670 at the mo - would I see a huge improvement ?
Will depend on the games & resolution being played at. You can expect a significant improvement at 1920x1200 or similar high resolutions.

A benchmark comparison between the two at Tom's Hardware.

Make sure your PSU is good enough - post its make & model if in doubt.
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Hmm, the 1Gb version is the same price - http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/9925404/PNY-Geforce-GTS-250-1GB-PCI-Express-2-0-Graphics-Card/Product.html, but this one (the 4870) is better anyway, isn't it?

Yes, does seem that way - TH's 4870 1Gb & GTS250 1Gb comparison.
#26
Crossbow
Will depend on the games & resolution being played at. You can expect a significant improvement at 1920x1200 or similar high resolutions.

A benchmark comparison between the two at Tom's Hardware.

Make sure your PSU is good enough - post its make & model if in doubt.
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Hmm, the 1Gb version is the same price - http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/9925404/PNY-Geforce-GTS-250-1GB-PCI-Express-2-0-Graphics-Card/Product.html, but this one (the 4870) is better anyway, isn't it?

Yes, does seem that way - TH's 4870 1Gb & GTS250 1Gb comparison.


My PSU is crap one that came with the PC (I normally build my PC's but it was so darn cheap I could not pass on it). Any good PSU's on offer at the mo?
1 Like #27
leedale30;6772536
My PSU is crap one that came with the PC (I normally build my PC's but it was so darn cheap I could not pass on it). Any good PSU's on offer at the mo?
Best I can find (with the requisite 2x 6pin PCI-E connectors) is a 500W Silverstone Strider ST50F-230 (modular) for £45 on their Today/Only section & free delivery via AV Forums. The cheapest suitable PSU on eBuyer costs £55.

Note that this GPU offer has expired - gone up to £112 now, but there's a XFX 512Mb 4870 card for ~£91.
#28
Crossbow
Best I can find (with the requisite 2x 6pin PCI-E connectors) is a 500W Silverstone Strider ST50F-230 (modular) for £45 on their Today/Only section & free delivery via AV Forums. The cheapest suitable PSU on eBuyer costs £55.

Note that this GPU offer has expired - gone up to £112 now, but there's a XFX 512Mb 4870 card for ~£91.


cheers man! I may wait it out as my 4670 is ok for now, not the best but have an insurance claim for a flood damaged computer coming in soon. I may be able to build a new one from scratch.

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