*Price Drop* - Lenovo ThinkPad B50 (4GB RAM / 320GB HDD / Bluetooth / USB 2.0 / USB 3.0 / 4in1 card reader / 15.6 inch / Windows 8.1) Laptop £199.98 [£169.98 after cashback] @ Ebuyer - HotUKDeals
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This has dropped even further - Decent reviews and includes a DVD+-RW

I know this isn't going to play the latest games but if you want a low priced laptop good enough for uni / student work then this will do.

see link for cashback details

The Lenovo B50 is the best value for money notebook for your day-to-day business needs. Thinner than 1" and weighing less than 2 kg, it is easy to carry around. The new B series guarantees safe and secure access to your information. With a Dual Core Intel Processor, 4GB or RAM and 320GB of Storage there is plenty of performance for the budget price. A built in DVD+-RW and a 4-in-1 card reader provide plenty of media capability

Intel Celeron 2815 Dual Core 1.86Ghz
4GB RAM + 320GB HDD
15.6" LED Display
Webcam + Bluetooth
Windows 8.1 64bi


****NOT A THINKPAD*** - ONLY PUTTING THIS HERE TO HELP AVOID CONFUSION
- alababaju
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3 Likes #1
Celeron..... You need a bulletproof vest for the future comments that are sure to come.
1 Like #2
Thinkpad?

I thought all thinkpads had to have the trackpointer?

Not an ideapad instead? or have Lenovo started to devalue the premium thinkpad name?
2 Likes #3
It's not branded a thinkpad, just the Lenovo B50

http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/lenovo/b-series/b50-45/
2 Likes #4
Why do they still make celerons?
4 Likes #5
mccririck
Why do they still make celerons?

Because the new Haswell Celerons are very power efficient and actually not a bad CPU...it's the bloated OS's that are the real problem.

Try out a Chromebook or Linux machine running a Haswell celeron..they fly.

Not everyone needs a super quick i7 CPU ...
#6
Good deal
#7
Think the CPU isn't that powerful, might be baytrail http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N2815+%40+1.86GHz

only about 15% faster than my 2009 SU2300 http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+SU2300+%40+1.20GHz&id=595

Still a good price, voted hot. Just don't expect too much from the CPU.
#8
Celeron CPU... OK for surfing the net and basic stuff, is worst processor.
2 Likes #9
Not a thinkpad, someone change this please, as many people will purchase based on this factor alone.
3 Likes #10
Yomanda
Celeron CPU... OK for surfing the net and basic stuff
ie. more than powerful enough for 99% of people here.
What's your point?
#11
Was considering this for the kids, but can't believe my 3 year old Core i3 HP laptop scores 2409 vs 932 on the Passmark for this laptop CPU (nearly 3 times more powerful)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2158&cmp[]=756

Edited By: rugman on Jul 28, 2014 21:56
4 Likes #12
rugman
Was considering this for the kids, but can't believe my 3 year old Core i3 HP laptop scores 2409 vs 932 on the Passmark for this laptop CPU (nearly 3 times more powerful)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2158&cmp[]=756

It uses less than 4 times the power 7.5w vs 35w.
suspended#13
rugman
Was considering this for the kids, but can't believe my 3 year old Core i3 HP laptop scores 2409 vs 932 on the Passmark for this laptop CPU (nearly 3 times more powerful)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2158&cmp[]=756


Remember the Dell Vostro 1500 deal in 2008 with 1.6mhz cpu? The £166 Dell last week has a Celeron and has similar results on GeekBench to the old Vostro. However, in real life performance for the most common tasks, these celeron's dont feel too bad. They surf fine, make pretty good video players and should be found in machines with great battery life and for many people the most important thing, they're cheap.
I've also bought the old Lenovo 'built like a tank' Thinkpads via HUKD, but the problem when going 2nd hand is battery life, screen brightness and keyboards can be a bit off.
Windows 8.1 has some smart features behind the scenes and a good bit of money to buy separately (I use classic shell as I struggled with it)


Edited By: parabolica on Jul 28, 2014 22:16: a
#14
What a lot of people on here seem to be failing to take into account is that these processors are far more energy efficient than the older ones mentioned. These CPUs are designed to give priority to performance/Watt which they do very well.

Considering the i3 example given, the 2815 may be approx. 2-3 times slower but it uses approx. 5-7 times less energy.
#15
Ugh, this is so annoying I bought this on Thursday of last week. Then chased them at the weekend when I discovered the dropped price to 209. Now it drops again. I wouldn't have minded but they haven't even processed my order. Bah humbug. Still this is a very good deal at this price.
1 Like #16
no denying this is a killer price, brand new, delivered to your door for under £170, no doubt this will be fine for a couple or three years for most who just wanna surf, light office, watch youtube clips etc
#17
netjock
Think the CPU isn't that powerful, might be baytrail http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N2815+%40+1.86GHz

only about 15% faster than my 2009 SU2300 http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+SU2300+%40+1.20GHz&id=595

Still a good price, voted hot. Just don't expect too much from the CPU.
I have a mid-range laptop from 2007 with a C2D that beats this almost 2x. Clearly not much has changed in 7 years.

Edited By: drspa44 on Jul 28, 2014 22:57
#18
mccririck
Why do they still make celerons?

What you mean is why do they still make Fiestas or Mondeos? It's just a name, do you think a 2014 Mondeo is better than a 1993 Mondeo? Guess what a 2014 Celeron is a lot better than a 2004 Celeron. Different CPU architecture.

Edited By: fishmaster on Jul 29, 2014 00:15
#19
drspa44
netjock
Think the CPU isn't that powerful, might be baytrail http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N2815+%40+1.86GHz

only about 15% faster than my 2009 SU2300 http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+SU2300+%40+1.20GHz&id=595

Still a good price, voted hot. Just don't expect too much from the CPU.
I have a mid-range laptop from 2007 with a C2D that beats this almost 2x. Clearly not much has changed in 7 years.

C2Ds were great and still are at doing just about anything an average user wants, however they don't have the power management and low power consumption of CPUs today. This CPU will get you decent performance for average tasks and much better battery life. So things have changed.

This Celeron uses Baytrail architecture, other Celerons currently out there use Ivybridge and Haswell which are more powerful architectures. Baytrail is low power usage with reasonable performance but very good battery life.

Edited By: fishmaster on Jul 29, 2014 00:19
#20
It's Atom Celeron. Intel's attempt at confusing customers. It's slower than a CPU inside your refrigerator.
#21
Which laptop is better or do people prefer between this one and the dell 15 one that's been hot on here for the last week or two, priced at £178.99. Not bothered about a disc drive just want the smallest, lightest and fastest laptop out of the 2???
1 Like #22
jay_leeds
Which laptop is better or do people prefer between this one and the dell 15 one that's been hot on here for the last week or two, priced at £178.99. Not bothered about a disc drive just want the smallest, lightest and fastest laptop out of the 2???

The dell is actually pretty good if you uninstall all the bloatware +mcafee, remove the useless apps, install start menu 8, install sumatra pdf, run ccleaner, install avast. Plenty good enough for browsing and watching videos.
#23
elbrownos
Yomanda
Celeron CPU... OK for surfing the net and basic stuff
ie. more than powerful enough for 99% of people here.
What's your point?


Oh you know 99% of people's requirements here? Looking at many of the questions I see on laptops that's not true. My point is a Celeron processor is useless.
#24
fishmaster
mccririck
Why do they still make celerons?

What you mean is why do they still make Fiestas or Mondeos? It's just a name, do you think a 2014 Mondeo is better than a 1993 Mondeo? Guess what a 2014 Celeron is a lot better than a 2004 Celeron. Different CPU architecture.


Well said!
#25
you know what people need to stop hating on this for the price its a bargain tbh what people actually want is a core i7 laptop with like 16gb of ram quad hd screen for a 100 quid which is impossible and this at a 170 quid is great :/
#26
fishmaster
mccririck
Why do they still make celerons?

What you mean is why do they still make Fiestas or Mondeos? It's just a name, do you think a 2014 Mondeo is better than a 1993 Mondeo? Guess what a 2014 Celeron is a lot better than a 2004 Celeron. Different CPU architecture.

Not really the same comparison is it. A Mondeo is a bigger car than a Fiesta. It's like comparing a 13 inch laptop to a 17 inch laptop, which I wasnt doing.

Celerons may be more efficient than days of old but so are the latest i3 processors.
#27
Could always stick one of these in it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IRRDHVW/
1 Like #28
I have a modern celeron and a ivy bridge xeon, both with Toshiba ssd's, there is no difference in everyday performance, with uefi bios both are at the desktop within 5 seconds of pressing the power button, find it amusing how people who haven't used this blindly say they are rubbish and recommend a chrome book that's faster? Seriously... Heat good price
#29
fishmaster
drspa44
netjock
Think the CPU isn't that powerful, might be baytrail http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N2815+%40+1.86GHz

only about 15% faster than my 2009 SU2300 http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+SU2300+%40+1.20GHz&id=595

Still a good price, voted hot. Just don't expect too much from the CPU.
I have a mid-range laptop from 2007 with a C2D that beats this almost 2x. Clearly not much has changed in 7 years.

C2Ds were great and still are at doing just about anything an average user wants, however they don't have the power management and low power consumption of CPUs today. This CPU will get you decent performance for average tasks and much better battery life. So things have changed.

This Celeron uses Baytrail architecture, other Celerons currently out there use Ivybridge and Haswell which are more powerful architectures. Baytrail is low power usage with reasonable performance but very good battery life.

The Internet is quoting 6 hours of light use for both this and my C2D, which have 2200mah and 3800mah batteries respectively, so I don't see much improvement given the performance increase, though maybe there are other factors. If you isolate the money paid to Intel for the N2850 vs the C2D T9300, I'm sure it will be a lot cheaper than half.

For basic tasks, this CPU is more than powerful enough and £170 is a bargain for any new laptop.
1 Like #30
SteadVex
I have a modern celeron and a ivy bridge xeon, both with Toshiba ssd's, there is no difference in everyday performance, with uefi bios both are at the desktop within 5 seconds of pressing the power button, find it amusing how people who haven't used this blindly say they are rubbish and recommend a chrome book that's faster? Seriously... Heat good price


You're right, everyday tasks you won't notice. My 7 year old desktop is faster for everyday tasks with SSD than my Haswell i7 laptop without one. In fact I never use the CPU power of the laptop ever and it sits in the cupboard as something else I wasted money on.
#31
Great price for this entry-level laptop - heated
1 Like #32
Windows 8.1 64bit - With Bing

OMG it comes with Bing, heat just for that!

**Slaps face**
2 Likes #33
guru_fordy
Windows 8.1 64bit - With Bing

OMG it comes with Bing, heat just for that!

**Slaps face**

A special cheaper version of Windows 8.1 for OEM suppliers. This is crucial as it means the OEM can supply a laptop at a lower price, because the OEM can't change the default search from Bing. The end user can. What this means is that large companies such as Dell are afforded a massive advantage over small independents. This is a serious subject to me as I work for an independent and this is squeezing us further. This is capitalism for you though, if you live by the sword you die by the sword.

Edited By: fishmaster on Jul 29, 2014 12:43
#34
rugman
Was considering this for the kids, but can't believe my 3 year old Core i3 HP laptop scores 2409 vs 932 on the Passmark for this laptop CPU (nearly 3 times more powerful)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2158&cmp[]=756
A score is just that, and rarely represents real world usage. I'd bet this will blow my Intel Atom n270 netbook and AMD Athlon Xp 2800+ away, and probably be a reasonable upgrade for someone like me looking for a cheap system to break into 64 bit and more than one core.

Edited By: anewman on Jul 29, 2014 15:08
#35
ThinkWhileYouWaitPad
#36
Looks good for money
#37
I know one has a far higher rating than the other but is the better laptop, this one or the Dell one?

http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-15-3531-laptop/pd?oc=cn53102&model_id=inspiron-15-3531-laptop

I just want a basic laptop and need it for a flat in Edinburgh with not TV but fast wifi to keep the kids busy with streaming TV, DVD player would be good (I know the Dell one hasn't got one) and doing a bit of work on a train. My current laptop is 11 years old and so you'll understand anything is an upgrade!

Thanks for your help!
#38
Sunshine2010
I know one has a far higher rating than the other but is the better laptop, this one or the Dell one?

http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-15-3531-laptop/pd?oc=cn53102&model_id=inspiron-15-3531-laptop

I just want a basic laptop and need it for a flat in Edinburgh with not TV but fast wifi to keep the kids busy with streaming TV, DVD player would be good (I know the Dell one hasn't got one) and doing a bit of work on a train. My current laptop is 11 years old and so you'll understand anything is an upgrade!

Thanks for your help!

The Dell has a better CPU but only marginally. The Dell doesn't have an Ethernet port, DVD drive, Bluetooth or USB 3.0
#39
just looking at:

http://lenovo-offers.com/pages/business/qualifying

you need to order this by july 31st in order to claim the cashback ? (30 days later)
#40
fishmaster
Sunshine2010
I know one has a far higher rating than the other but is the better laptop, this one or the Dell one?

http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-15-3531-laptop/pd?oc=cn53102&model_id=inspiron-15-3531-laptop

I just want a basic laptop and need it for a flat in Edinburgh with not TV but fast wifi to keep the kids busy with streaming TV, DVD player would be good (I know the Dell one hasn't got one) and doing a bit of work on a train. My current laptop is 11 years old and so you'll understand anything is an upgrade!

Thanks for your help!

The Dell has a better CPU but only marginally. The Dell doesn't have an Ethernet port, DVD drive, Bluetooth or USB 3.0

Thanks, wasn't sure how much difference 320gb made compared to 500gb. Will order the Lenovo one today!

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