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PRO SIGNAL Flat Cat5e LSOH Ethernet Patch Lead, RJ45 Plug, 15m Black 1.26£ / £4.26 delivered @ CPC Farnell

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PRO SIGNAL PSG90671 Flat Cat5e LSOH Ethernet Patch Lead, RJ45 Plug, 15m Black 1.26£ / £4.26 delivered @ CPC Farnell NOTE: Total price including delivery = £4.26, unless your order exceeds £5 (exc… Read More
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PRO SIGNAL PSG90671 Flat Cat5e LSOH Ethernet Patch Lead, RJ45 Plug, 15m Black 1.26£ / £4.26 delivered @ CPC Farnell

NOTE: Total price including delivery = £4.26, unless your order exceeds £5 (excluding VAT). Or you can just buy 4 for £5.04 with free shipping.

Free delivery on orders over £5 (£6 effectively including VAT)

Only 53 in stock at time of posting.

Hi, could you please expire this now. Sold out and not able to get more.

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17 Likes #1
Buyer beware. Ethernet cables depend upon the cores within the cable being crossed with each other to eliminate external interference and crosstalk between neighbouring pairs. If the cable is flat, the pairs probably are no twisted and this smells like a case of form over function.

If you're planning to use this cable for high speed networking, or for it to be run next to other cables you will probably find it won't work or works badly. Just because you can buy one, you need to be aware of its technical limitations.

If you doubt what I have suggested I suggest you read up on twisted pair. The Wikipedia page is a good start. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_pair

I don't dispute that the price is good for 15m of cable but I would not want to use this type of cable for any significant distance. A metre or so might be ok, but 15m is asking for trouble.
#2
5 delivered for £6.30....! Nice find chmielnik420, have taken advantage of that!
[£1.05 ea exc VAT, so need 5 to get the free delivery for orders over £5 (ex Vat)]

Edited By: robs1 on Mar 11, 2017 08:12
1 Like #3
I too have taken a punt for five cables.

Good points made by Plunet, I do tend to buy From Kenable cables on ebay for my needs.

A few years old now but still worth watching....

https://youtu.be/ojFPdg7DGvk

Heat added op

Edited By: VimesUK on Mar 11, 2017 08:20: added link
4 Likes #4
Dont want to offend, but do you know what a standard is? And in particular a CAT5e standard?
I'd suggest less supositions and more facts.

plunet
Buyer beware. Ethernet cables depend upon the cores within the cable being crossed with each other to eliminate external interference and crosstalk between neighbouring pairs. If the cable is flat, the pairs probably are no twisted and this smells like a case of form over function.
If you're planning to use this cable for high speed networking, or for it to be run next to other cables you will probably find it won't work or works badly. Just because you can buy one, you need to be aware of its technical limitations.
If you doubt what I have suggested I suggest you read up on twisted pair. The Wikipedia page is a good start. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_pair
I don't dispute that the price is good for 15m of cable but I would not want to use this type of cable for any significant distance. A metre or so might be ok, but 15m is asking for trouble.


Edited By: chmielnik420 on Mar 11, 2017 08:34
#5
Well I thought that cat5 or higher standard was based upon twisted pairs - surely the fact that these are flat means they're not adhearing to the minimum standard of cat5? (assuming they aren't twisted in some clever way)

That's doesn't mean it won't work, it will, it just means it's not adhearing to the standard cat5 type cables.

I'm no expert and am fully happy to be utterly berrated by an expert :D

I voted hot, there are times when flat cables make life so much easier and I'd be more than willing to lose a bit of theoretical speed if I could run a cable more discretely.


Edited By: spannerzone on Mar 11, 2017 08:55
3 Likes #6
It's only the pairs which need to be twisted (differential signalling), but that doesn't mean the bundles of pairs have to be twisted round. And this flat cable is not totally flat after all.
For the doubters, here's an example of a flat cable:
https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1Kr9ONpXXXXceXpXXq6xXFXXXQ/Braided-Cat7-STP-Ethernet-Cable-Flat-10Gbps.jpg
As chmielnik420 implied, complying with a standard is about the signal quality etc. not whether a cable is round or flat. And these claim Cat5e and there I'm sure they've been tested (since they're not being sold on ebay from the far east).
2 Likes #7
One piece of advice If buying flat cables....

Before placing it under carpets or in walls TEST IT...make sure devices connect at Gigabit, the times I've seen this installed under carpets or in walls only for it to be connected and only connect at 100mb
1 Like #8
Cat5 supports up to 100 Mbps. This is cat5e. The e stands for enhanced which gives less crossover feedback and supports up to 1000 Mbps. The hub / switch on most routers (supplied by ISP's) only support up to 100 Mbps.
#9
Stuart1234cat
Cat5 supports up to 100 Mbps. This is cat5e. The e stands for enhanced which gives less crossover feedback and supports up to 1000 Mbps. The hub / switch on most routers (supplied by ISP's) only support up to 100 Mbps.

the reality is that a lot of cheap Cat5e (especially Flat cable) fails to support gigabit...hence my advice to test before hiding in floors and walls.

Personally I've not had an ISP supplied router for at least 5yrs that didn't have Gigabit LAN ports...but yes always worth checking this. Easily checked though by connecting a PC to one of the ports and checking connection speed of the NIC.
#10
Uridium
Stuart1234cat
Cat5 supports up to 100 Mbps. This is cat5e. The e stands for enhanced which gives less crossover feedback and supports up to 1000 Mbps. The hub / switch on most routers (supplied by ISP's) only support up to 100 Mbps.
the reality is that a lot of cheap Cat5e (especially Flat cable) fails to support gigabit...hence my advice to test before hiding in floors and walls.
Personally I've not had an ISP supplied router for at least 5yrs that didn't have Gigabit LAN ports...but yes always worth checking this. Easily checked though by connecting a PC to one of the ports and checking connection speed of the NIC.
I agree with you. Always worth testing before installing. I had a few Belkin cat5e and found that they were very slow.

Edited By: Stuart1234cat on Mar 11, 2017 10:17
#11
Stuart1234cat
Cat5 supports up to 100 Mbps. This is cat5e. The e stands for enhanced which gives less crossover feedback and supports up to 1000 Mbps. The hub / switch on most routers (supplied by ISP's) only support up to 100 Mbps.

Ill be testing these.
Anyway these flat cables never failed me. I got a lot of usb ones. These are not top brand but at least a solid fair quality.
1 Like #12
chmielnik420
Dont want to offend, but do you know what a standard is? And in particular a CAT5e standard?
I'd suggest less supositions and more facts.
plunet
Buyer beware. Ethernet cables depend upon the cores within the cable being crossed with each other to eliminate external interference and crosstalk between neighbouring pairs. If the cable is flat, the pairs probably are no twisted and this smells like a case of form over function.
If you're planning to use this cable for high speed networking, or for it to be run next to other cables you will probably find it won't work or works badly. Just because you can buy one, you need to be aware of its technical limitations.
If you doubt what I have suggested I suggest you read up on twisted pair. The Wikipedia page is a good start. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_pair
I don't dispute that the price is good for 15m of cable but I would not want to use this type of cable for any significant distance. A metre or so might be ok, but 15m is asking for trouble.
Standards are one thing, whether or not manufacturers actually adhere to them is quite another. Just look at the amount of ultra-cheap wet string sold on eBay which has "Cat5e" printed on the sheathing and is advertised as such, but in practice is incapable of more than 100Mbps even over short runs.

I'm not saying this particular product is similar tat (I don't know), but I'd be a bit wary unless and until someone independently verified its capabilities.
2 Likes #13
Stuart1234cat
Cat5 supports up to 100 Mbps. This is cat5e. The e stands for enhanced which gives less crossover feedback and supports up to 1000 Mbps. The hub / switch on most routers (supplied by ISP's) only support up to 100 Mbps.

Cat5 will also do 1000 over shorter runs as long as it has 4 pairs.

VladTheImpaler
chmielnik420
Dont want to offend, but do you know what a standard is? And in particular a CAT5e standard?
I'd suggest less supositions and more facts.
plunet
Buyer beware. Ethernet cables depend upon the cores within the cable being crossed with each other to eliminate external interference and crosstalk between neighbouring pairs. If the cable is flat, the pairs probably are no twisted and this smells like a case of form over function.
If you're planning to use this cable for high speed networking, or for it to be run next to other cables you will probably find it won't work or works badly. Just because you can buy one, you need to be aware of its technical limitations.
If you doubt what I have suggested I suggest you read up on twisted pair. The Wikipedia page is a good start. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_pair
I don't dispute that the price is good for 15m of cable but I would not want to use this type of cable for any significant distance. A metre or so might be ok, but 15m is asking for trouble.
Standards are one thing, whether or not manufacturers actually adhere to them is quite another. Just look at the amount of ultra-cheap wet string sold on eBay which has "Cat5e" printed on the sheathing and is advertised as such, but in practice is incapable of more than 100Mbps even over short runs.
I'm not saying this particular product is similar tat (I don't know), but I'd be a bit wary unless and until someone independently verified its capabilities.

The cheap cables are usually copper clad aluminium instead of full copper. This one isn't usually cheap, looks like CPC made a pricing error.

Stuart1234cat
Uridium
Stuart1234cat
Cat5 supports up to 100 Mbps. This is cat5e. The e stands for enhanced which gives less crossover feedback and supports up to 1000 Mbps. The hub / switch on most routers (supplied by ISP's) only support up to 100 Mbps.
the reality is that a lot of cheap Cat5e (especially Flat cable) fails to support gigabit...hence my advice to test before hiding in floors and walls.
Personally I've not had an ISP supplied router for at least 5yrs that didn't have Gigabit LAN ports...but yes always worth checking this. Easily checked though by connecting a PC to one of the ports and checking connection speed of the NIC.
I agree with you. Always worth testing before installing. I had a few Belkin cat5e and found that they were very slow.

How exactly did you find that they were slow?
#14
Gkains is right, only the pairs are twisted in a Cat5e cable. If you strip one back, you can see yourself.

There is no technical sheet on the Farnell website, so I would check with them first that these are pure copper and not CCA (copper clad aluminium) which I think is still offered.
#15
It is very easy to make your own you know. You can buy a cheap tool, some RJ45 ends and cable, then you can make as many and as long or short, as you need.
#16
VimesUK
I too have taken a punt for five cables.
Good points made by Plunet, I do tend to buy From Kenable cables on ebay for my needs.
A few years old now but still worth watching.... https://youtu.be/ojFPdg7DGvk
Heat added op

Yip Kenable every time. £1.60 delivered and never had a problem with them.
#17
Ta OP, top buy - heat added.
#18
Oos
#19
Rudidudi
Oos

I just ordered, said 31 in stock.
Cheers op
1 Like #20
So did I, then received email telling me they're on backorder
#21
nublets2k
How exactly did you find that they were slow?
When transferring data across my network, the FTP program I use tells me the average speed. The transfer speed of the Belkin cables was approx. a 1/3 of the speed compared to the cables I already had.

Edited By: Stuart1234cat on Mar 11, 2017 15:56
1 Like #22
Stuart1234cat
nublets2k
How exactly did you find that they were slow?
When transferring data across my network, the FTP program I use tells me the average speed. The transfer speed of the Belkin cables was approx. a 1/3 of the speed compared to the cables I already had.

What speed were you getting with the other cables?
#23
Amazing deal. Out of stock now :-(
Got some on back order
#24
VimesUK
I too have taken a punt for five cables.

Good points made by Plunet, I do tend to buy From Kenable cables on ebay for my needs.

A few years old now but still worth watching....

https://youtu.be/ojFPdg7DGvk

Heat added op


Good informative video!
#25
spannerzone
Well I thought that cat5 or higher standard was based upon twisted pairs - surely the fact that these are flat means they're not adhearing to the minimum standard of cat5? (assuming they aren't twisted in some clever way)
That's doesn't mean it won't work, it will, it just means it's not adhearing to the standard cat5 type cables.
I'm no expert and am fully happy to be utterly berrated by an expert
anonimousse
They are just cables mate..you don't have to adhere to anything! just have fun with them - that is what they are for and oh, use different colours they bring out the data even more lol
Sure thing,why not, you're right, as long as it's bright and is made of something vaguely metallic and shiney it'll do ....coloured cables are proven unscientifically beyound doubt to make faster speeds and betters sounds :D



Edited By: spannerzone on Mar 11, 2017 22:58
#26
plunet
Buyer beware. Ethernet cables depend upon the cores within the cable being crossed with each other to eliminate external interference and crosstalk between neighbouring pairs. If the cable is flat, the pairs probably are no twisted and this smells like a case of form over function.
If you're planning to use this cable for high speed networking, or for it to be run next to other cables you will probably find it won't work or works badly. Just because you can buy one, you need to be aware of its technical limitations.
If you doubt what I have suggested I suggest you read up on twisted pair. The Wikipedia page is a good start. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_pair
I don't dispute that the price is good for 15m of cable but I would not want to use this type of cable for any significant distance. A metre or so might be ok, but 15m is asking for trouble.

Whilst you are correct about twisted cables, I suspect these flat cables do still have four twisted pairs within, as per this drawing http://www.solwise.co.uk/downloads/files/cat6_flat_drawing.pdf
Personally I can see some bright spark in China using untwisted aluminium cable just to save a penny, so would prefer to stick with branded cables where I can verify their construction. On eBay the normal ones cost exactly the same.
#27
Hi, could we please expire this now. We have sold out stock and are not going to be able to get more in for this product.

Thanks
#28
mikem1989
VimesUK
I too have taken a punt for five cables.
Good points made by Plunet, I do tend to buy From Kenable cables on ebay for my needs.
A few years old now but still worth watching.... https://youtu.be/ojFPdg7DGvk
Heat added op
Good informative video!

It is, thanks.

When people buy with only price as a consideration that is what you end up with. It does make a difference.
#29
despite order going through over a week i got it was cancelled. Anyone recommend this type of cable maybe on ebay as there are so many on there and i only need them for my consoles and a few ip cctv cams.

thanks

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