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Professional Quality HDMI v1.3 cable 2.4M £9.99

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Compatible with the latest HDMI v1.3 standard for ultimate performance Supports full 1080p definition, as well all other standards HDCP-compliant 24K gold-plated connectors for optimum signal clari… Read More
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Compatible with the latest HDMI v1.3 standard for ultimate performance
Supports full 1080p definition, as well all other standards
HDCP-compliant
24K gold-plated connectors for optimum signal clarity
99.99% oxygen-free cable for minimal signal degradation
Fully shielded cord to prevent signal interference
Silver soldering to ensure perfect connection
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#1
Why's this been voted cold?

Seems alrite if it supports v1.3 as I went with someones opinion that the earlier cables would work with my cheapy divx dvd player but they cost me £4 for something that doesn't work.

I'd of been happy to pay the £10 for something to make sure it works.
#2
What makes these professional? And what is the difference between this one and a cheapy £3 one?
#3
Do you have a HD tv because i do and it does make a big different
#4
Its debatable whether paying out for expensive HDMi cables is worthwhile as with digital cables signal quality is not an issue like it was with analogue (they either send the signal or they don't). A quick search brings this 1.3 compliant cable up at about £5 delivered, and if your willing to use ebay then you can cut the price in half again.http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2645
#5
Adidas Addict
Its debatable whether paying out for expensive HDMi cables is worthwhile as with digital cables signal quality is not an issue like it was with analogue (they either send the signal or they don't). A quick search brings this 1.3 compliant cable up at about £5 delivered, and if your willing to use ebay then you can cut the price in half again.http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2645


but it looks good though....
#6
For people that go and buy this stuff from currys and maplins this should b a great deal as those retailers be selling these for silly money 40quid+++
#7
its a digital cable
£40 cables do very little more than £4
#8
MyBigToe
its a digital cable
£40 cables do very little more than £4


That's not true, sorry.

I was reading about digital cables in What Hi Fi magazine. In actual fact, with a high-quality HDMI cable, you can expect to see sharper images, deeper blacks, richer colours, better acting, increased audio dynamic range, and all-round better sound fidelity. What Hi Fi recommends cables costing at least 10% of your rig's cost, and advises spending approx. £100 on a good cable. For the tight-fisted, decent cables can be bought for £40.
#9
A digital cable sends 1's and 0's, whether it costs £1 or £100, if the 1's and 0's don't get from one end to the other, you won't get a signal.

Spending the money on HiFi speaker cables is sensible as they are not digital, however you'll see no difference between el cheapo HDMI cables and the "professional" expensive ones.

Still, a tenner isn't too bad of a price.... it's still vastly inflated for what you get though.
1 Like #10
dxx
That's not true, sorry.

I was reading about digital cables in What Hi Fi magazine. In actual fact, with a high-quality HDMI cable, you can expect to see sharper images, deeper blacks, richer colours, better acting, increased audio dynamic range, and all-round better sound fidelity. What Hi Fi recommends cables costing at least 10% of your rig's cost, and advises spending approx. £100 on a good cable. For the tight-fisted, decent cables can be bought for £40.


I used to think the same. And to a certain extent speaker cables, interconnects, and scart cables do make a difference because they carry analogue signals. I used to read What Hifi and Hifi Choice regularly. But their persistent advertising of cables put me off of them. There is one clear thing that is 100% true about cables and that you can be sure of. The manufacturers of them pay these magazines big money to big them up. Unfortunately most of it is snake oil.

As for HDMI cables. People are right here. I just don't get the physics behind a claim that a more expensive cable that carries a digital signal that is simply a bunch of 1 and 0's is better than a cheaper one is very hard to believe.

I actually just took up a free subscritpion to What Hifi and Hifi Choice again and I was very surprised to see them touting these £100 HDMI cables. Shame on them!!!

The one area where a small difference will be made is in the connections. But only a small one.
1 Like #11
dxx
That's not true, sorry.

I was reading about digital cables in What Hi Fi magazine. In actual fact, with a high-quality HDMI cable, you can expect to see sharper images, deeper blacks, richer colours, better acting, increased audio dynamic range, and all-round better sound fidelity. What Hi Fi recommends cables costing at least 10% of your rig's cost, and advises spending approx. £100 on a good cable. For the tight-fisted, decent cables can be bought for £40.


Yeah and I wonder how many adverts for expensive cables/manufacturers appeared in that issue. They're very unlikely to say they're a waste of money, don't buy them, when they account for a large part of their revenue.
There's decent cable that is robust, strong and well shielded and there's some that are just a ridiculous waste of precious metals and money (and that probably appeal to the same sort of people who ride £500 mountain bikes to work).
#12
Using a £4 one from Lidl and it works a treat, excellent quality too.
#13
carleast
As for HDMI cables. People are right here. I just don't get the physics behind a claim that a more expensive cable that carries a digital signal that is simply a bunch of 1 and 0's is better than a cheaper one is very hard to believe.

My first utterance on the debate about buying expensive 'gold plated' cables and getting a better result than with cheap ones. What utter tosh. The cable simply transfers data digitally as the above poster states, its 1's and 0's. If you 'lost' some data (as you'd have to be doing if the picture were degraded) it would show up much more than simply "sharper images, deeper blacks, richer colours, better acting, increased audio dynamic range, and all-round better sound fidelity."

I work in the largest Air Traffic Control centre in Europe and everything, from the radar signals to the radio signal to the phone lines, is sent along a LAN (Local Area Network). Obviously that data is very very important to us, otherwise you might have 2 aircraft collide if you cannot see or hear them. The wiring in the LAN is yer bulk standard, buy it everywhere, cheap as chips Cat 5 cable, no gold plating, no special connectors etc.

Mike
#14
These will have better build quality and thats all really. Doubt you will notice any picture quality changes.

But if your going to get one from Aldi for £4, why not get a good one for £9?

I understand all the who haa about HDMI cable prices (saying that, try using a cheapy one over a 15m run to a projector) but in this instance these are good quality cables with good build quality for a bargain price. So whats the problem?

So why vote cold?
#15
Yes , Its a good deal but more for the "look"
than any difference in quality compared to
a £4 one.
All your gear would look good hooked up with
a few of these :thumbsup:
#16
Broadsword
But if your going to get one from Aldi for £4, why not get a good one for £9?




Eh ?

The ones from Lidl are good quality so why spend £5 or 100% more than you have to:whistling:
#17
I have the shorter 1.2m version. They are just unbranded linx cables. It looks good with the braiding and works great on my PS3. One problem I found was that the plug had too much plastic around it so it was stopping the HDMI cable from making a full connection to my Sammy TV. I had to trim a bit to make a connection but its probably a bad design of the tv. I agree that you don't need a QED or Monster cable etc to receive the same picture/audio quality however I would buy the latest available standard (1.3a) instead of a cheap 1.1 cable and keep the cable as short as possible. The best thing to check is the bandwidth of the cable - does it support 1080p or will it only support 720p/1080i at a push? low bandwidth cheap thin wire hdmi cables may cause random disconnections to the TV so check it guarantees to support 1080p before committing to buy.

I have had no problems with my cable and its not a bad price really but Plays credability is'nt what it used to be...
#18
Try this link : Philex brand hdmi cable still available from amazon at £4
#19
jcooper
A digital cable sends 1's and 0's, whether it costs £1 or £100, if the 1's and 0's don't get from one end to the other, you won't get a signal.

Spending the money on HiFi speaker cables is sensible as they are not digital, however you'll see no difference between el cheapo HDMI cables and the "professional" expensive ones.

Still, a tenner isn't too bad of a price.... it's still vastly inflated for what you get though.


Hi, Agreed on this one. Logic '1' or Logic '0'. End of story. No analogue signals being sent along the cable. Afaik there's no need at all to spend large sums of money on HDMI cables. Gold, Oxygen Free SCART cables yes. Expensive HDMI cables no.
#20
deanos
Eh ?

The ones from Lidl are good quality so why spend £5 or 100% more than you have to:whistling:


You do understand that this cable will be better made than your cheap one? i.e more sturdy, better soldered connections etc.

Yes it may not work any better but it will last longer, will put up with being tugged out the socket bashed etc longer than your cheap one?

So my comment still stands.
#21
i have a 1m and 2m hdmi cable for my xbox360 and my ps3, each cost under a fiver delivered from cclonline
i dont understand why people would pay more when as stated its a digital signal?
the only way i could possibly envisage a high quality cable being worthwhile is if you are sending data hundreds of feet along a wire then maybe some signal loss from poor qulaity cables
#22
deanos
Eh ?

The ones from Lidl are good quality so why spend £5 or 100% more than you have to:whistling:

Are they 1.3 was going to try and get one today if they are.
#23
Broadsword
You do understand that this cable will be better made than your cheap one? i.e more sturdy, better soldered connections etc.

Yes it may not work any better but it will last longer, will put up with being tugged out the socket bashed etc longer than your cheap one?

So my comment still stands.


What a load of tosh
1 Like #24
dxx

I was reading about digital cables in What Hi Fi magazine. In actual fact, with a high-quality HDMI cable, you can expect to see sharper images, deeper blacks, richer colours, better acting, increased audio dynamic range, and all-round better sound fidelity. What Hi Fi recommends cables costing at least 10% of your rig's cost, and advises spending approx. £100 on a good cable. For the tight-fisted, decent cables can be bought for £40.


It's all a scam, sorry, Magazines participate in this because they get so much money from the advertisers.

Anyone who knows anything about electronics knows all of the above is completely impossible. How exactly does a cable enhance colours/increase audio range etc of an encrypted signal? (as pretty much all HD content is). If it's not passing the signal at 99.99999999% you get signal dropouts, not image/sound quality differences.

On top of that, this sort of data rate is easy meat for modern cables. I just bought a 25 metre cat5e network cable, and it cost me 4 pounds. Since it's going in the wall I tested it with pingbombing software at 1gbit (approx what 1080p uses), and it didn't drop a single packet out of 100 million.

Best way to think about this: would you expect a gold-plated USB printer cable to result in sharper pictures with better contrast?
#25
Lol!! Glad to hear most other people feel the same.

I'm sure there are people out there who use Russ Andrews mains cables in their toasters because Russ told them it would make better toast. Good on him for making all that money. But he's an absolute t*&£er for basically stealing money from people on a lot of his products. Same with the rest of the snake oil producing industry.
#26
dxx
That's not true, sorry.

I was reading about digital cables in What Hi Fi magazine. In actual fact, with a high-quality HDMI cable, you can expect to see sharper images, deeper blacks, richer colours, better acting, increased audio dynamic range, and all-round better sound fidelity. What Hi Fi recommends cables costing at least 10% of your rig's cost, and advises spending approx. £100 on a good cable. For the tight-fisted, decent cables can be bought for £40.


Ha! Ha! Ha!

Utter cobblers:p
#27
Will this work with a 360 and I won't need any other cables?
#28
I feel kind-of bad now. What I wrote was meant to be taken as sarcasm ("...better acting..."), and I feel like I've taken far too much of Sburley, Carleast, Mikewot and the Arfster's time in this little spot of trolling.

On the other hand though, you all wrote excellent replies that raised some great points - Arf's bit about the pingbomb and the printer; Mike's real-world example of generic cables, SBurley's point about mountain bikes (close to home that one, I've got a mate who spent over two grand on his); and Carl's point about how the press' obsession with promoting spensive cables is basically just due to bribery, especially. And you've all debunked the myth that the amoral scums of the magazines write and the deluded parrots of the AV Forums blndly parrot, to the dozens, or maybe hundreds of the people who've read this thread. And how good is that?

Rep all round, you're all superb :)
#29
Were can I get a cheapish 5m one from?
#30
Scampa
Were can I get a cheapish 5m one from?


Got my 5m one from here to work with my HD projector.

http://svp.co.uk/product/19_minus_pin_male_minus_male_hdmi_cable_5700
#31
A lot of good points being raised on this thread, but a lot of assumptions, too.

Cat5e cable tends to cost more than cat5 cable. You pay more for a cable that's qualified fo the higher bandwidth. You could find some cat5 cable that *happens* to work at gigabit data rates (at least over short runs), but it's not guaranteed.

Likewise, you *could* find a cheap HDMI cable that copes with 1080p bandwidth just fine. But you may get one that doesn't, or may have a more slack twist that makes it more prone to interference. Buying a cable from a source that guarantees 1080p performance may not be such a bad thing. And build quality, while maybe not a huge issue, may still be worth a consideration.

So £5 or £10 - you pays your money and takes your choice. What I think we all agree on is that £40 or £100 is well OTT and pointless. 'Deeper blacks', etc, is just marketing ****. (I wish it could really give 'better acting', though!) Do those sort of cables have arrows on the sleeve, to tell the electrons which way to travel? :-)
#32
deanos
What a load of tosh


Great argument there, well thought out and constructed.

Complete misguided advice on this thread though, go bellitle these (and while you there take a look at this) all you like but dont tell me that an extra £5 for a sturdier cable is not a logical thing to do. These cables at that price are a good option and certainly the ones people who ask for advice about what to buy should be guided too and recommended to buy. You can actually feel the difference between these ones and the ones given free with your DVD player and the cheap ones from Aldi. They are heavier more sturdy and fit into the connections better, you can see a tangible increase in quality for the extra cash.

Some others to look at would be the molex HDMi cables that tvcables.co.uk sell, excellent qulity and cheap too.

Honestly I cant see what the problem is.
#33
Speculator
Got my 5m one from here to work with my HD projector.

http://svp.co.uk/product/19_minus_pin_male_minus_male_hdmi_cable_5700



Just the job Thx :)
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#36
websearcher
£2.


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#37
Surprised more people didn't pick up on the 'better acting' - I thought it was good!

That's what you get for using sarcasm on the internets.
#38
With a cheapy cable (much like the ones people are linking for a few quid) the colours with my Xbox Elite looked odd. There was shimmering of certain colours and all sorts. Enter a Linx HDMI Gold cable (more or less the same as the one here) and fixed all of those issues. Perhaps V1.3 helped as the TV has a good colour range (KDL-46X3500) who knows.

I think you must be fickle frankly to complain about spending £10 on a cable if you spend £1000s on LCDs, consoles, speakers etc.

Edit: Tested the rubbish one versus Linx with another of my LCDs, the difference is there albeit subtle. But it's subtle enough to annoy you, like a tiny scratch on a car :p
#39
dxx
That's not true, sorry.

I was reading about digital cables in What Hi Fi magazine. In actual fact, with a high-quality HDMI cable, you can expect to see sharper images, deeper blacks, richer colours, better acting, increased audio dynamic range, and all-round better sound fidelity. What Hi Fi recommends cables costing at least 10% of your rig's cost, and advises spending approx. £100 on a good cable. For the tight-fisted, decent cables can be bought for £40.

This is "What-HiFi" we're talking about.
#40
Interesting thread, but the deal is not hot.

I use the ebuyer cable myself, under a fiver http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130507. They do a 5m version for £5.99 but you then have to add delivery unless you spend £50.

A digital cable might just be sending 1s and 0s, but it is sending a hell of a lot of them. Sometimes (quite often actually) not all of them get through and that is where the built in error correction bits come into play. The receiving end will know that part of the signal is missing or wrong and can correct the numbers to make sense of it. Have none of you ever seen blockiness and breaking up on your Freeview? That is when the error correction is working overtime on a bad signal and can't get it all to make sense in the time it has. A decent cable, well shielded and well constructed will not worsen the signal like a rubbish cable could.

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