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61 plate pre-registered SEAT Ibiza Sport Coupe 1.2 S Copa £8,995.00

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All the SEAT dealers seem to have been given 2 of these pre-registered cars. They were pre-registered by SEAT on 24 Nov 2011, and feature alloys, cruise control and air con. All the dealers seem…
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[quote=andrewduffell] My Corsa was 1.0L 59PS, and this is 1.2L 70PS. This felt slightly more powerful when test driving it - not a lot, but there was a difference, and personally that was all I wanted.
As you say, its what you want. People complain about the engine, but they have usually (like me) had them as a courtesy car when their more powerful car is in for service/repair. I have a 170bhp diesel and i now refuse to take a 1.2 courtesy car as they are just so underpowered and you tend to try and do manoeuvres that you would normally do in your own car which can be hairy sometimes! Saying that, the last courtesy car i had was a 1.4 Merc A-Class was absolutely gutless, the Fabia 1.6tdi i had though when i went for a service was a great little engine!

Its all how you perceive it, if your used to a 55bhp corsa then this is great!

You should never blame a car for your lack of driving ability. Workman/tools etc.

Yes, because you driving a 55bhp corse could beat my 140bhp Audi any day of the week, of course!

Actually we used to have a 55hp polo which was definitly faster through the twisties than our 140hp (diesel) audi a3. Also had the added bonus of being much more fun to drive. Of course it would be beaten on acceleration on straight roads, but that requires no skill other than slight motor skills in the right foot.

Just for the record the audi was a 2.0 TDI sport 3 door and the polo was a 1.2 E 3 door.

Quick few hints for you. Power is not the same as driving skill. Having more does not always mean better.

My little lotus elise has 118hp... does that make your audi faster?

Stop talking drivel.

Driving skill isn't in question, what is in question is what you are used to. Going from 130-170bhp for the last 8 years to 60bhp is a big difference when you get one for a day. They are just too underpowered.....you need a gap bigger than an artic needs to get out to overtake.

For the record, i have plenty of driving skill, having an advanced driving qual and been on track days in a Honda S2000, Pug 205 Mi16 GTI and a Clio Cup......so i don't think skill is in the question.

I think you need to look at your own driving skill if you can't drive a 140bhp A3 through the twisties as fast as a 55bhp Polo (truly hateful car with that engine and spec)......and also an Elise is about a 3rd of the weight of an A3 giving it about 155-160bhp per ton? Compared to about 105bhp per ton in the A3....oO

Standard response from people who simply dont know, just read the marketing and believe in it.

If you are going round the twisty B roads (I live in the north Pennines) speed is defined not by ultimate power, but by cornering speed. Ironically due there being a vast quantity more corners than straights.

The polo has a huge advantage due to the weight distribution effecting under steer. It is very dependable while the audi has a much more defined 'limit'. This is all due to the huge lump of iron lurking at the front of the audi. I always thought this was a function of the tyres but after many years of ownership and 3 differing types, I found this not to be the case.

To recap in simply to understand english. Audi accelerated faster and supplied more confidence up to a point but it's limit was not safely useable while the polo's actualy limit was easier to exploit and ultimately more than the audi's.

I could go on about the advantages/disadvantages of the Audi's ESP/traction control. But in reality I was always happy for it's slightly invasive nature as it vastly improved stability under heavy braking. Probably due to brake balance being too high for the rear without it.

To end, the audi is a boring car to drive but gets 45+ mpg. The reason why I bought it.

Yes yes yes, you can string a sentence together but don`t know what you`re talking about. My Audi A6 is a hell of a lot faster along winding roads than my Astra, Polo, Citroen or Saab ever were. And I can consistently beat other scabby little cars - saxos, polos, fiestas, focuses and the like down the same country roads.
SimonFin
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jrw
[quote=andrewduffell] My Corsa was 1.0L 59PS, and this is 1.2L 70PS. This felt slightly more powerful when test driving it - not a lot, but there was a difference, and personally that was all I wanted.
As you say, its what you want. People complain about the engine, but they have usually (like me) had them as a courtesy car when their more powerful car is in for service/repair. I have a 170bhp diesel and i now refuse to take a 1.2 courtesy car as they are just so underpowered and you tend to try and do manoeuvres that you would normally do in your own car which can be hairy sometimes! Saying that, the last courtesy car i had was a 1.4 Merc A-Class was absolutely gutless, the Fabia 1.6tdi i had though when i went for a service was a great little engine!

Its all how you perceive it, if your used to a 55bhp corsa then this is great!

You should never blame a car for your lack of driving ability. Workman/tools etc.

Yes, because you driving a 55bhp corse could beat my 140bhp Audi any day of the week, of course!

Actually we used to have a 55hp polo which was definitly faster through the twisties than our 140hp (diesel) audi a3. Also had the added bonus of being much more fun to drive. Of course it would be beaten on acceleration on straight roads, but that requires no skill other than slight motor skills in the right foot.

Just for the record the audi was a 2.0 TDI sport 3 door and the polo was a 1.2 E 3 door.

Quick few hints for you. Power is not the same as driving skill. Having more does not always mean better.

My little lotus elise has 118hp... does that make your audi faster?

Stop talking drivel.

Driving skill isn't in question, what is in question is what you are used to. Going from 130-170bhp for the last 8 years to 60bhp is a big difference when you get one for a day. They are just too underpowered.....you need a gap bigger than an artic needs to get out to overtake.

For the record, i have plenty of driving skill, having an advanced driving qual and been on track days in a Honda S2000, Pug 205 Mi16 GTI and a Clio Cup......so i don't think skill is in the question.

I think you need to look at your own driving skill if you can't drive a 140bhp A3 through the twisties as fast as a 55bhp Polo (truly hateful car with that engine and spec)......and also an Elise is about a 3rd of the weight of an A3 giving it about 155-160bhp per ton? Compared to about 105bhp per ton in the A3....oO

Standard response from people who simply dont know, just read the marketing and believe in it.

If you are going round the twisty B roads (I live in the north Pennines) speed is defined not by ultimate power, but by cornering speed. Ironically due there being a vast quantity more corners than straights.

The polo has a huge advantage due to the weight distribution effecting under steer. It is very dependable while the audi has a much more defined 'limit'. This is all due to the huge lump of iron lurking at the front of the audi. I always thought this was a function of the tyres but after many years of ownership and 3 differing types, I found this not to be the case.

To recap in simply to understand english. Audi accelerated faster and supplied more confidence up to a point but it's limit was not safely useable while the polo's actualy limit was easier to exploit and ultimately more than the audi's.

I could go on about the advantages/disadvantages of the Audi's ESP/traction control. But in reality I was always happy for it's slightly invasive nature as it vastly improved stability under heavy braking. Probably due to brake balance being too high for the rear without it.

To end, the audi is a boring car to drive but gets 45+ mpg. The reason why I bought it.
jrw
abaxas
SimonFin
abaxas
jrw
andrewduffell
My Corsa was 1.0L 59PS, and this is 1.2L 70PS. This felt slightly more powerful when test driving it - not a lot, but there was a difference, and personally that was all I wanted.
As you say, its what you want. People complain about the engine, but they have usually (like me) had them as a courtesy car when their more powerful car is in for service/repair. I have a 170bhp diesel and i now refuse to take a 1.2 courtesy car as they are just so underpowered and you tend to try and do manoeuvres that you would normally do in your own car which can be hairy sometimes! Saying that, the last courtesy car i had was a 1.4 Merc A-Class was absolutely gutless, the Fabia 1.6tdi i had though when i went for a service was a great little engine!

Its all how you perceive it, if your used to a 55bhp corsa then this is great!

You should never blame a car for your lack of driving ability. Workman/tools etc.

Yes, because you driving a 55bhp corse could beat my 140bhp Audi any day of the week, of course!

Actually we used to have a 55hp polo which was definitly faster through the twisties than our 140hp (diesel) audi a3. Also had the added bonus of being much more fun to drive. Of course it would be beaten on acceleration on straight roads, but that requires no skill other than slight motor skills in the right foot.

Just for the record the audi was a 2.0 TDI sport 3 door and the polo was a 1.2 E 3 door.

Quick few hints for you. Power is not the same as driving skill. Having more does not always mean better.

My little lotus elise has 118hp... does that make your audi faster?

Stop talking drivel.

Driving skill isn't in question, what is in question is what you are used to. Going from 130-170bhp for the last 8 years to 60bhp is a big difference when you get one for a day. They are just too underpowered.....you need a gap bigger than an artic needs to get out to overtake.

For the record, i have plenty of driving skill, having an advanced driving qual and been on track days in a Honda S2000, Pug 205 Mi16 GTI and a Clio Cup......so i don't think skill is in the question.

I think you need to look at your own driving skill if you can't drive a 140bhp A3 through the twisties as fast as a 55bhp Polo (truly hateful car with that engine and spec)......and also an Elise is about a 3rd of the weight of an A3 giving it about 155-160bhp per ton? Compared to about 105bhp per ton in the A3....oO

I think the fact that they think that their Polo is faster than their A3 shows everything you need to know about this idiots driving ability.
abaxas
SimonFin
abaxas
jrw
andrewduffell
My Corsa was 1.0L 59PS, and this is 1.2L 70PS. This felt slightly more powerful when test driving it - not a lot, but there was a difference, and personally that was all I wanted.
As you say, its what you want. People complain about the engine, but they have usually (like me) had them as a courtesy car when their more powerful car is in for service/repair. I have a 170bhp diesel and i now refuse to take a 1.2 courtesy car as they are just so underpowered and you tend to try and do manoeuvres that you would normally do in your own car which can be hairy sometimes! Saying that, the last courtesy car i had was a 1.4 Merc A-Class was absolutely gutless, the Fabia 1.6tdi i had though when i went for a service was a great little engine!

Its all how you perceive it, if your used to a 55bhp corsa then this is great!

You should never blame a car for your lack of driving ability. Workman/tools etc.

Yes, because you driving a 55bhp corse could beat my 140bhp Audi any day of the week, of course!

Actually we used to have a 55hp polo which was definitly faster through the twisties than our 140hp (diesel) audi a3. Also had the added bonus of being much more fun to drive. Of course it would be beaten on acceleration on straight roads, but that requires no skill other than slight motor skills in the right foot.

Just for the record the audi was a 2.0 TDI sport 3 door and the polo was a 1.2 E 3 door.

Quick few hints for you. Power is not the same as driving skill. Having more does not always mean better.

My little lotus elise has 118hp... does that make your audi faster?

Claiming that you can drive a 55bhp Polo faster than a 140bhp A3 down a country road shows exactly what your driving skills are like, and they won`t impress anyone.

I think you`re entire post has shown how well informed you are about these matters - I`d rather believe a cactus than you about cars.
abaxas
SimonFin
abaxas
jrw
andrewduffell
My Corsa was 1.0L 59PS, and this is 1.2L 70PS. This felt slightly more powerful when test driving it - not a lot, but there was a difference, and personally that was all I wanted.

As you say, its what you want. People complain about the engine, but they have usually (like me) had them as a courtesy car when their more powerful car is in for service/repair. I have a 170bhp diesel and i now refuse to take a 1.2 courtesy car as they are just so underpowered and you tend to try and do manoeuvres that you would normally do in your own car which can be hairy sometimes! Saying that, the last courtesy car i had was a 1.4 Merc A-Class was absolutely gutless, the Fabia 1.6tdi i had though when i went for a service was a great little engine!

Its all how you perceive it, if your used to a 55bhp corsa then this is great!


You should never blame a car for your lack of driving ability. Workman/tools etc.


Yes, because you driving a 55bhp corse could beat my 140bhp Audi any day of the week, of course!


Actually we used to have a 55hp polo which was definitly faster through the twisties than our 140hp (diesel) audi a3. Also had the added bonus of being much more fun to drive. Of course it would be beaten on acceleration on straight roads, but that requires no skill other than slight motor skills in the right foot.

Just for the record the audi was a 2.0 TDI sport 3 door and the polo was a 1.2 E 3 door.

Quick few hints for you. Power is not the same as driving skill. Having more does not always mean better.

My little lotus elise has 118hp... does that make your audi faster?


Stop talking drivel.

Driving skill isn't in question, what is in question is what you are used to. Going from 130-170bhp for the last 8 years to 60bhp is a big difference when you get one for a day. They are just too underpowered.....you need a gap bigger than an artic needs to get out to overtake.

For the record, i have plenty of driving skill, having an advanced driving qual and been on track days in a Honda S2000, Pug 205 Mi16 GTI and a Clio Cup......so i don't think skill is in the question.

I think you need to look at your own driving skill if you can't drive a 140bhp A3 through the twisties as fast as a 55bhp Polo (truly hateful car with that engine and spec)......and also an Elise is about a 3rd of the weight of an A3 giving it about 155-160bhp per ton? Compared to about 105bhp per ton in the A3....oO
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