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QED HR Reference HDMI Cable (0.5 m) for £50.00 @ AudioVisual Online

£50.00 @ AudioVisual Online
I'm not starting a debate on the whether or not you should spend more than £4.99 on an HDMI cable. If you would like to though, here are some features: - Certified HDMI v1.3. - Full 1080p60 res… Read More
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8y, 1m agoFound 8 years, 1 month ago
I'm not starting a debate on the whether or not you should spend more than £4.99 on an HDMI cable.

If you would like to though, here are some features:

- Certified HDMI v1.3.
- Full 1080p60 resolution.
- 99.999% silver plated oxygen-Free copper conductors.
- Individually screened pairs for improved interference immunity.
- Fully shielded connectors for enhanced electrical screening.
- 24K gold-plated connectors with integrated strain relief.

The 0.5 m cable is usually £60-70 elsewhere. This price includes free delivery and a free Screen Cleaner.
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#1
wow Bargain !!!!! LOL
#2
Was going to vote cold till I noticed the free screen cleaner!
#3
Silver plated copper conducters...

at that price I would have expected the conducters to be made out of gold and then plated over with an extra coat of gold... like as if the silver is going to make any difference....

have worked in cabling business for years... and can tell you... it dont make a difference... a difference that you will be able to notice unless u got superman vision.........

advertising can do wonders... and make people buy any sh1t
#4
really in no way is this a bargain. for a start digital signals dont degrade like analogue signals do so it really doesnt matter if you spend £5 on a cable, you will get the same quality of signal. the only slight reason to spend a little more money would be IF cheaper cables have poorly made connections and more expensive versions may last longer if continually unplugged and plugged.

if you buy this cable you really need your head tested.
#5
hdmi cable over £20 is a waste of money in my opinion, cold.
#6
Rip Off!!
#7
I guess it was too much to ask for people to keep their opinions to themselves.

I expect a lot of the screens you goons buy are rubbish and the films you watch on them likewise but the fact remains, if it's good enough for someone and it's cheaper than elsewhere, it's still a 'Hot Deal'.

I won't bother any more then.
#8
"I expect a lot of the screens you goons buy are rubbish and the films you watch on them likewise"

ooh hark at her. did someone mention something about keeping opinions to themselves????
#9
biyitch
I guess it was too much to ask for people to keep their opinions to themselves.

I expect a lot of the screens you goons buy are rubbish and the films you watch on them likewise but the fact remains, if it's good enough for someone and it's cheaper than elsewhere, it's still a 'Hot Deal'.

I won't bother any more then.


Good

Bye then

Shocking attitude
#10
This one is going to drop, like a stone!
#11
I've got a 'good' Samsung LE40A686 panel and have tried a whole host of different 1.3 cables, from premium to bargain bucket. Apart from build quality, none of my 4 HDMI devices (laptop, Blu Ray, WDTV 1080p, Xbox 360) shows any difference whatsoever.

Similarly to speaker cable, any differences are so subtle, the human eye (and ear) can 99.99% of the time not tell the difference. People who claim to, are usually subject to poor bias.

I can guarantee that if a real double blind experiment was conducted with cabling on the same LCD panels, differences would be in people's heads and proven so by science.
#12
look love, yes i suppose £20 off could be considered a bargain. but, we are trying to help those gullible people out there that believe everything the salesmen at currys tell them about spending fortunes on top quality cables. if this was a scart lead or something else that transmits analogue signals then fine, but nobody need spend more than double figures on a hdmi cable, as you alluded to in your original post.

as for having a rubbish screen....ive recently taken delivery of a Panasonic TH-65VX100E, one of the finest plasma's currently available. and i use a hmdi cable i bought for a tenner. i got the installer to test my cable against the ones he was trying to push on me, most of them well over £50, some over £100. no discernable differance at all, even when using a calibration disc.

so there ;-)
#13
CroferCombo
hdmi cable over £20 is a waste of money in my opinion, cold.



Very well said

Anyone that can justify such a waste of hard earned money must have a really sad life.
#14
biyitch
I guess it was too much to ask for people to keep their opinions to themselves.

I expect a lot of the screens you goons buy are rubbish and the films you watch on them likewise but the fact remains, if it's good enough for someone and it's cheaper than elsewhere, it's still a 'Hot Deal'.

I won't bother any more then.


You should bother - not enough of the many who benefit from HUKD take the time to contribute - and many of those who carp about deals do so whilst failing to contribute anything themselves - but that doesn't change the fact that a £50 HDMI cable is ludicrously bad value, whatever its RRP - it just doesn't perform any better than a well-made five pound HDMi cable does!

Expensive doesn't mean the same as quality, nor does cheap mean the same as shoddy. The key to a hot deal is good value - i.e quality performance at low cost price!
#15
paul738
look love, yes i suppose £20 off could be considered a bargain. but, we are trying to help those gullible people out there that believe everything the salesmen at currys tell them about spending fortunes on top quality cables. if this was a scart lead or something else that transmits analogue signals then fine, but nobody need spend more than double figures on a hdmi cable, as you alluded to in your original post.

as for having a rubbish screen....ive recently taken delivery of a Panasonic TH-65VX100E, one of the finest plasma's currently available. and i use a hmdi cable i bought for a tenner. i got the installer to test my cable against the ones he was trying to push on me, most of them well over £50, some over £100. no discernable differance at all, even when using a calibration disc.

so there ;-)


LOL! but i wish people would take note of this! my HDMI cable was a fiver and its brilliant.
#16
Post a HDMI cable on here for more than £3 and it gets very, very chilly
#17
paul738;4919113
...the only slight reason to spend a little more money would be IF cheaper cables have poorly made connections and more expensive versions may last longer if continually unplugged and plugged.


Indeed. I bought it because of this simple equation:

£4.99 x however many cables to get one with good integrity + my valuable time = >£50

So it's money well spent and time saved for me.
#18
biyitch
Indeed. I bought it because of this simple equation:

£4.99 x however many cables to get one with good integrity + my valuable time = >£50

So it's money well spent and time saved for me.


Sounds like you've had bad luck with badly made cables then. I've never found one to not actually work as intended. Sure, the connectors weren't stellar, but then who takes cables out every two minutes? The one that I do swap between laptops cost £8 delivered and has awesomely heavy-duty connectors.

Where are you getting these sub-par cables that have no integrity?
#19
No debate. There is simply no need to spend a fortune on over priced HDMI cables. If you want to then go ahead and if you feel you have a bargain then that's fine. However, everybody else should know that they would be ripped off by buying this cable.

Sorry but I have to vote cold on this one.
#20
Just buy a £3-£5 cable from a decent supplier and if you're not happy with its performance then ask for a replacement cuz u got a faulty one!
1 Like #21
Haha as everyone has already mentioned - guff spending money on cable that even Superman with his Super eyesight could tell the the difference between...

Maybe those cables should come with a voucher for Specsavers because if you think they make a difference then you really should have gone to...... etc etc.
#22
biyitch
Indeed. I bought it because of this simple equation:

£4.99 x however many cables to get one with good integrity + my valuable time = >£50

So it's money well spent and time saved for me.



why not save even more time and money and spend a fiver on a hdmi cable then get a cheap spliiter/switcher for it. ive got one for my tv in the bedroom with a remote. cost about £25 i think.

there, not only have i saved you time and effort, ive also saved you even more money.

thank me later ;-)
#23
thesilverfox

Similarly to speaker cable, any differences are so subtle, the human eye (and ear) can 99.99% of the time not tell the difference. People who claim to, are usually subject to poor bias.


Balls. Big hairy balls.

Unlike HDMI, speaker cable makes a massive difference. I would normally offer any one of my friends the opportunity to come round mine if this debate comes up. I'd play you a CD with cheap wire, then plug back my bi-wired goodness and play the same CD. If you can't tell the difference I will give you a pot of Johnson & Johnson ear cleaning buds.

But obviously I'm subject to poor bias according to you, so that would be a waste of time.
1 Like #24
Looks like I'm going for the coldest deal of all time then!
#25
Benjiman
Balls.

Speaker cable makes a massive difference. I'll get you round mine, play you a CD with cheap ****, then plug back my bi-wired goodness and if you can't tell the difference I will give you a free pot of Johnson & Johnson ear cleaning buds.


Always one :roll: Of course, I'm not comparing bell wire to decent grade cable. I'm talking about generic 700+ strand to QED Anniversary/IXOS/Monster. I'll eat my own balls if you can tell the difference in a blind test. I bi-wire my Wharfedale 8.3 Diamonds and single wire my Tannoy M3's. I've been given a load of mint QED Anniversary cable and compared it to generic and there is no difference at all. Even my audiophile friend who builds amplifiers from scratch (etching PCBs etc) says no way. Unless you have the fabled 'golden ears'.
#26
Apart from the the obvious. A 50cm hdmi cable is of much use as a chocolate teapot.
#27
Hope you have your Panel and AV Receiver plugged in with one of these to get maximum benefit from this £50 HDMI cable
#28
Shop keepers must luv ya biyitch.
#29
Having read most the the replies on here its true that most dont have a clue what they are talking about, and tend to go with the general opinion that all HDMI's are the same and it dont matter if its 50p or 50 quid. In fact for the normal consumer this is true, especially over a cable of this size (0.5m) However with premium HDMI cables you get a higher Data Rate, agreed this is only useful with items that most normal consumers dont own, however the big difference with premium cables is over long runs, anything 15m and above will suffer, Whether or not joe bloggs will notice is a different matter.
banned#30
It's not just about the digital signal though right? These cable's wouldn't win awards if they werent better.

I can say right now that my QED cable offers better quality playing the xbox than my old £3 one. The colours are better etc
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axe_1986
Having read most the the replies on here its true that most dont have a clue what they are talking about, and tend to go with the general opinion that all HDMI's are the same and it dont matter if its 50p or 50 quid. In fact for the normal consumer this is true, especially over a cable of this size (0.5m) However with premium HDMI cables you get a higher Data Rate, agreed this is only useful with items that most normal consumers dont own, however the big difference with premium cables is over long runs, anything 15m and above will suffer, Whether or not joe bloggs will notice is a different matter.



c&p:

Since this question gets asked like 15 times a day, and I usually end up responding to them, I'll make a general post... Sure would be nice to be stickied, but since that won't happen, at least highlight it and keep the URL so you yourself will have an easy time "replying" to the onslaught of questions...

I originally wrote this as a reply to a post, but thought it made more sense standing on it's own... So here goes...

"Question: Is there any difference between a cheap (i.e. $10 HDMI cable) and an expensive (i.e. $150 HDMI cable)???"

I have an EE degree. I work as a broadcast engineer. I live and breath digital and analog signals every day. So yes, you could say I'm qualified to give the answer to this question...

That answer is, "No, an expensive HDMI cable will make NO difference in the quality of your picture OR sound"

I'll give you the more complex reason first, then an analogy... Hopefully one will make sense... If you don't want all the real technical stuff, just skip down to B for a real simple explaination...

A) Wires send electrical signals... Plain and simple. Anything sent over a wire is ultimately just a voltage/current applied to that cable. Let's say we're talking about an analog video signal that's 1 volt peak to peak... In other words, measuring from the LOWEST voltage to the HIGHEST voltage will give a result of 1 volt... With an analog signal you have "slices" of time that are "lines" of signal... It's too complex to go into here, but basically you have a "front porch" which is known as the "setup"... This is what helps your tv "lock onto" and sets the "black level" for the signal. After that you've got each line of the image (455 half cycles per line). Again I won't go into how chromanance (color information) and luminance (picture or brightness information) is combined, seperated, etc.. It's too complex for this discussion, but irregardless, just know that following that porch you've got all the lines of the picture (and some that don't show up on the picture... these carry closed captioning, test signals, etc...). All of these "lines" of information when you look at them on a scope look like this...


That waveform is all of that information in analog form... In other words, if you look at one VERY SMALL timeslice of that waveform, the EXACT position of the form (i.e. what voltage is present) represents what information is at that position...

Because of this, it's VERY EASY for other radiated signals to get "mixed in" with that information. When this happens, the more "noise" you get mixed into the signal, the more degraded the picture will be... You'll start to get snow, lines, weird colors, etc... Because "information" is getting into the waveform that doesn't belong there...

With digital however, (i.e. the signal sent over an HDMI cable), the information is encoded differently... At it's lowest level, it's nothing but a string of bits... In other words, each signal is either ON or OFF... It doesn't care if a particular timeslice is 4.323 volts or 4.927 volts... It's just ON... See on the right side here, the "square wave" pattern?


That's what a digital signal looks like... For each "slice" of the signal, the "bit" is either on (if the signal is high) or off (if it's low)...

Because of that, even if you mix some noise, or even a LOT of noise into the signal, the bit will STILL be on or off... It doesn't matter...


Now, for a slightly easier to understand analogy...

B) Think of it this way... Let's say you have a ladder with 200 steps on it... An "analog" signal represent information by WHICH step the person is on at a certain time. As you move further and further away (get "noise or interference in the signal), it's very easy to start making mistakes... For example, if the person is on the 101st step, you might say he's on 102nd, or as you get further away, you might start making more and more mistakes... At some point you won't know if the person is on the 13th step or the 50th step....

NOW... In a digital signal, we don't care if he's on the 13th or 14th or 15th step... All we care about is rather he's at the TOP or the BOTTOM... So now, as we back you up further and further (introduce more noise), you might have no idea what STEP he's on, but you'll STILL be able to tell if he's a "1" or a "0"...

THIS is why digital signals aren't affected by cheaper cables, etc... Now eventually if you keep moving further and further back, there may come a point where you can no longer tell if he's up or down... But the good news is, digital signals don't "guess"... If they SEE the signal, they work... If they DON'T, they DON'T.. LOL

So if anyone ever tells you they can "see the difference" between HDMI cables, etc... You can knowingly laugh to yourself and think about how much money the poor sole wasted on something that was pointless.


Now, I've seen others say that they make a difference in audio... ALL audio carried over HDMI is STILL in digital format... So again, since it's a digital signal, it will not make ANY difference at all....

I've also seen various posts in regards to things like "Make sure you get a v1.3 cable"... The various HDMI versions determine the capabilities of the DEVICES on either end of that cable (most of the HDMI versions (other then 1.0 to 1.1) have to do with AUDIO and how many channels / type of audio are carried...) Because of this, the cable itself is NO DIFFERENT... It's just marketing that some companies charge more for a "v1.3" cable then a "v1.1" cable, etc... The cables themselves will work now and WELL into the future for any other HDMI versions that come along the way....

So there you have it... Hopefully it's clear enough to understand and hopefully it will help prevent a few posts...
#32
^Cracking post^

Repped :)
#33
biyitch
Indeed. I bought it because of this simple equation:

£4.99 x however many cables to get one with good integrity + my valuable time = >£50

So it's money well spent and time saved for me.


If cheap 0.5m HDMI cables had a reputation for failing, or produced an inferior image quality, I'd agree with you. This simply isn't the case though.
banned#34
axe_1986;4919532
Having read most the the replies on here its true that most dont have a clue what they are talking about, and tend to go with the general opinion that all HDMI's are the same and it dont matter if its 50p or 50 quid. In fact for the normal consumer this is true, especially over a cable of this size (0.5m) However with premium HDMI cables you get a higher Data Rate, agreed this is only useful with items that most normal consumers dont own, however the big difference with premium cables is over long runs, anything 15m and above will suffer, Whether or not joe bloggs will notice is a different matter.

i would say you are the one who doesnt have a clue :whistling:
Conscept;4919585
It's not just about the digital signal though right? These cable's wouldn't win awards if they werent better.

I can say right now that my QED cable offers better quality playing the xbox than my old £3 one. The colours are better etc

they win awards from the mags that get all their advertising expenditure

so just where does the extra digital data come from on your qed cable to make the picture better. i do lol hard at the ignorance of some people!
#35
I too have read the above, but also seen video test patterns on youtube and read reviews in what hifi mag. Whilst confused I have stuck with a cable that was reduced to £10 on Play.com. They have cables that RRP at £40 for a tenner. Worth a look:
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/6-/Search.html?searchstring=hdmi+cable&searchtype=ELEC&searchsource=1
#36
"These cable's wouldn't win awards if they werent better."

yes, because mags like stuff, home cinema choice etc are all totally impartial arent they.....

again, another gullible soul being fooled by salesmen and those paid to help sell certain products in the market place.
#37
csiman
i would say you are the one who doesnt have a clue :whistling:

they win awards from the mags that get all their advertising expenditure

so just where does the extra digital data come from on your qed cable to make the picture better. i do lol hard at the ignorance of some people!


Hmm while I think this is not a bargin. I have just spent a few minutes reading this

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/1107

and I quote

If you want to connect across a long distance - to a ceiling-mounted projector for example - then you'll definitely need a high-performance cable.

The problem is this is only 0.5m cable!!!!
#38
axe_1986
Having read most the the replies on here its true that most dont have a clue what they are talking about, and tend to go with the general opinion that all HDMI's are the same and it dont matter if its 50p or 50 quid. In fact for the normal consumer this is true, especially over a cable of this size (0.5m) However with premium HDMI cables you get a higher Data Rate, agreed this is only useful with items that most normal consumers dont own, however the big difference with premium cables is over long runs, anything 15m and above will suffer, Whether or not joe bloggs will notice is a different matter.


So with premium HDMI cables you get a better data rate. But surely 1080p is as high as the data rate needs to go for HD TV`s, yes? In which case what difference would your (entirely unproven, hypothetical) better data rate make?

Would it not be more accurate to say that you`ve spent £50 on a HDMI cable and after finding out you where ripper off you`re trying to defend your position, and make yourself feel better about it?
#39
Conscept
It's not just about the digital signal though right? These cable's wouldn't win awards if they werent better.

I can say right now that my QED cable offers better quality playing the xbox than my old £3 one. The colours are better etc


No they win awards be bunging cash and Ad revenue to the magazine's. Don't trusat a review in any of the Hi-fi glossys
#40
biyitch
I guess it was too much to ask for people to keep their opinions to themselves.

I expect a lot of the screens you goons buy are rubbish and the films you watch on them likewise but the fact remains, if it's good enough for someone and it's cheaper than elsewhere, it's still a 'Hot Deal'.

I won't bother any more then.


I`d like to hear an explanation as to why your "better" cable sends a better quality digital signal than a cheap cable. Does it add extra information to make your picture better? The quality of the screen displaying the picture isn`t relevant - the same signal goes from the source to the end of the cable going into the TV. It doesn`t matter whether the cable cost £1 or £100, the SAME digital informaiton reaches the other end. What the TV does with that doesn`t matter here, the simple fact is that a digital signal either works or it doesn`t. Do you pay £20 for an IPod data cable, rather than get one from pound land, because it makes the music on your ipod sound better? If so, then I`m impressed you manage to breath without help. If not, why do you think a HDMI cable is any different?

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