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QED Performance HDMI Cable - 5m, Only 10-20 left in stock so hurry!

QED substantially improved the new Performance range including double-screening, enhanced gold-plated connections and more OFC copper. The result is an overall sense of quality, killer five star reviews in What Hi-Fi and like the cable says, it's all about the Performance.

Features:

•Double screened cable and shielded plugs ensures high levels of immunity from interference
•Custom designed plugs with gold plated contacts for improved long term performance
•28 AWG conductors ensure superior signal integrity over long cable runs
•Exceeds HDMI Standard Speed Rating

•Compatible with HDMI v1.4 devices and all previous versions
•Supports 1080p60

The multi award winning Performance HDMI (formally known as Qunex HDMI-P) ensures excellent signal transfer when used for direct digital connections between suitably equipped components, including 'HD Ready' products.

This High Definition Multimedia Interface connects your DVD, Blu-ray, HD-DVD, HDTV Box, or compatible Games Console to your AV Amplifier, Plasma, LCD TV, Projector or TV.





What Hi-Fi Review:



"The path of trying to fix a product when it isn't broken can be fraught with danger. What happens if said product takes a step backwards instead of forwards? What happens if your Award-winning pride and joy fails to recapture former glories? Thankfully, Qed doesn't have to worry about such problems. It has managed to take it's Award-winning, budget HDMI-P cable and make significant improvements.

There's more copper in the QED Performance HDMI, increasing the thickness for all cores and improving the connections between the now solid-purple cable and it's new plugs. And it all combines to produce a cable that is undoubtedly superior to it's predecessor.

The QED Performance HDMI produces an entertaining, colourful picture blessed with a large dose of detail. Images retain solidity in the face of tricky panning shots. As Nic cage's character launches himself over a row of trucks in 'Ghost Rider', there's virtually no trace of judder.

Sound gets an added heft, too. There's also an improvement over the old cable when it comes to sound quality. The New Performance HDMI conveys a clear, open, revealing sound. Treble is sweet with no hint of brightness. There's a real sense of heft and solidity in the lower frequencies that helps to emphasise the explosive action scenes of 'Casino Royale'. Dialogue sounds clear and uncluttered too." (What HiFi Review)
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#1
Free delivery also
#2
Got one from Sainsbury's a couple of weeks ago for £19.95.
2 Likes #3
I'm sorry but digital cables are digital cables.... we've had these debates on here before. Go to pound land and the cable will work and you won't lose any quality.

Colder than cold.

Edited By: _Sparky_ on Feb 03, 2011 21:47
#4
_Sparky_
I'm sorry but digital cables are digital cables.... we've had these debates on here before. Go to pound land and the cable will work and you won't lose any quality.Colder than cold.

Oh well if you've decided that then it must be true (_;)
1 Like #5
im getting 15 off these, one each for the kids.
#6
I would not say this is colder than cold as it is a 5m cable and you do need a little extra quality over long length cables. At the same time I am sure that you can get decently shielded long cables for less.
#7
Ok stick to your poundland cables then.
Over longer lengths its better to get good quality and the build quality on the poundland ones are garbage compared to these.
#8
_Sparky_
I'm sorry but digital cables are digital cables.... we've had these debates on here before. Go to pound land and the cable will work and you won't lose any quality.

Colder than cold.


Disagree with You.
I connect my bluray to poundland cable and after that to my Monster cable (more than £20) and belive me or not but difference was drastic (better with Monster ofcourse)
3 Likes #9
_Sparky_
I'm sorry but digital cables are digital cables.... we've had these debates on here before. Go to pound land and the cable will work and you won't lose any quality.

Colder than cold.


That's demonstrably not true, the concept of 'digital' does not exist in the physical world. Your digital 0s and 1s have to be transmitted via the copper wire of the hdmi cable as an anologue voltage wave form. This wave form then has to be converted back into 0s and 1s by the receiving device. Any distortion, degradation or interference of the wave form during transmition results in the signal being misread and as hdmi is does not allow for any crc checking or resending of data there's not much that be done. So a cheap, poorly made, poorly insulated 5m cable is by no means the same as a good quality, well insulated cable. Having said this, with 1 and 2m cables there's little benefit in spending extra as there's less opportunity for wave form to be screwed up.
1 Like #10
I have a cheap 5m cable that I paid £3.72 delivered for and it works perfectly. 5m is not a long run.
#11
_Sparky_
I'm sorry but digital cables are digital cables.... we've had these debates on here before. Go to pound land and the cable will work and you won't lose any quality.Colder than cold.

another plank, you are wrong....suggest you learn something about data transmission before making stupid comments (like most sheep on here!)
#12
ruddas
_Sparky_
I'm sorry but digital cables are digital cables.... we've had these debates on here before. Go to pound land and the cable will work and you won't lose any quality.Colder than cold.
That's demonstrably not true, the concept of 'digital' does not exist in the physical world. Your digital 0s and 1s have to be transmitted via the copper wire of the hdmi cable as an anologue voltage wave form. This wave form then has to be converted back into 0s and 1s by the receiving device. Any distortion, degradation or interference of the wave form during transmition results in the signal being misread and as hdmi is does not allow for any crc checking or resending of data there's not much that be done. So a cheap, poorly made, poorly insulated 5m cable is by no means the same as a good quality, well insulated cable. Having said this, with 1 and 2m cables there's little benefit in spending extra as there's less opportunity for wave form to be screwed up.

agreed, effectively how data transmission works, well said except i disagree with the 1m/2m cables...same principle applies no matter what cable length, except when you get to >10m when the signal strength begins to weaken so you need really good quality cables and/or repeaters......there are some divs on here who think a cable is like a piece of string and the only difference is how thick it is....the only thick thing is the from those who make stupid comments and a subject they clearly know nothing about

having said that, gone [almost] are days of stupidly priced cabling £100's/ metre (youll still get them but the gains/improvements are not as massive as seen with pure analogue cables)

if data transmission was so easy millions of telecoms workers worldwide would be out of a job

QED make fine cables and are more than good enough for 99.9% of people/scenarios....i have one of these but mine was free and mounted between my amp and tv through the walls so no visible cabling....there is no way id use a cheapo cable as i dont want to have to replace it

Edited By: royals on Feb 03, 2011 23:06
#13
I have a cheap old 10m DVI cable with HDMI converters on for the htpc under the stairs and thats fine at 1080p.

99% of cheap cables will do the job as well as stupid hyped up cables. The only time it might become a concern is very high resolutions over long distances >10m
#14
According to the gadget show on channel five there was virtually no difference between the cheap cables and the expensive ones.basically people get ripped off buying expensive cables because of some nonsense written on the fancy packaging
1 Like #15
Your wasting your time. There are so many on here of the naive 'Digital is Digital' mindset that posting any hdmi cable costing more that a couple of quid will always get a frostly reception.

Voted hot for what its worth, but a few interested people cannot drown out the baaa's of the obsessive. Good find for those of us who think that £20+ quid is worth paying to connect up a thousand quids worth of equipment.

Edited By: cynikill on Feb 04, 2011 00:16
#16
There may or may not be any difference between expensive and cheap ones, but there is definitely differences between cable version's and this one is the latest v1.4 type
#17
toughnumber
According to the gadget show


That's enough to lol and stop listening!
#18
seriously some of you should talk to some people that actually know digital cables make no difference at all they work or they dont

have a read on avforums at the posts from electronics engineers and tv manufacturers !!!!

the issue with long cables is voltage drop the signal just isnt strong enough to travel any further hence spending a bit more on a long cable MAY be a benefit as the wire used is possibly better quality BUT over any length run if you get a picture you aint going to make it any better by changing the cable
#19
mrmcbunny
seriously some of you should talk to some people that actually know digital cables make no difference at all they work or they dont

have a read on avforums at the posts from electronics engineers and tv manufacturers !!!!

the issue with long cables is voltage drop the signal just isnt strong enough to travel any further hence spending a bit more on a long cable MAY be a benefit as the wire used is possibly better quality BUT over any length run if you get a picture you aint going to make it any better by changing the cable


But the more expensive cables must be better cos the instructions on the cable's box says so oO
#20
mrmcbunny
seriously some of you should talk to some people that actually know digital cables make no difference at all they work or they dont have a read on avforums at the posts from electronics engineers and tv manufacturers !!!! the issue with long cables is voltage drop the signal just isnt strong enough to travel any further hence spending a bit more on a long cable MAY be a benefit as the wire used is possibly better quality BUT over any length run if you get a picture you aint going to make it any better by changing the cable

There is no such thing as a digital cable ... all cables are analogue. I don't need to ask anyone else based on my education and chosen vocation I know I am 100% correct. Have a play around with an HDMI cable, an oscilloscope and various house hold appliances and power supplies. Once you've seen for self how much you can degrade a signal over even a 1m cable length revisit your statement and see if you still think it's true.

Have a read of this too: http://www.hifipage.com/the-greatest-lie-of-the-digital-age-28/
#21
Unless you have a 50"+ TV and are watching stuff like football the price of a HDMI cable means NOTHING WHAT SO EVER!!!!!!


just buy a £1.50 one from amazon, otherwise you are foolish and need a slap.
1 Like #22
ruddas
_Sparky_
I'm sorry but digital cables are digital cables.... we've had these debates on here before. Go to pound land and the cable will work and you won't lose any quality.Colder than cold.
That's demonstrably not true, the concept of 'digital' does not exist in the physical world. Your digital 0s and 1s have to be transmitted via the copper wire of the hdmi cable as an anologue voltage wave form. This wave form then has to be converted back into 0s and 1s by the receiving device. Any distortion, degradation or interference of the wave form during transmition results in the signal being misread and as hdmi is does not allow for any crc checking or resending of data there's not much that be done. So a cheap, poorly made, poorly insulated 5m cable is by no means the same as a good quality, well insulated cable. Having said this, with 1 and 2m cables there's little benefit in spending extra as there's less opportunity for wave form to be screwed up.

Thats true, although the tolerance to interferance and the results of failure are quite different with a Digitaly encoded video signal.

For example signal integrity would not be compromised until a voltage drop exceeded the tolerances of the sink DAC. Or externally induced voltage surpassed the tolerances of the sink DAC. Moreover, if such issues did regularly present the results would be readily perceptable and probably catastrophic.

I've often read people suggest their expensive cables yielded "Brighter reds" for example. For that to occur with a HDMI cable, the random interference would have to repeatedly affect a very sepcific part of the signal in the same way for every frame carried. In such cases its clearly more likely the observations are not correct, but rather carried over from what the person has been conditioned to expect from more expensive cables carrying analogue encoded video signals.

The analogy I often use is to compare a picture of a red house and a written description of that same red house. While through successive copies the red colour of the house may fade in the picture, in the written description it would remain red, until that word was no longer legible. It would not for example change from red to faded read along the way.

The problem I have with these expensive HDMI cables, is that they provide no actual measurements of the benefits they provide. While the components used may tick some boxes, how they are put together is just as important. IMO they really need to provide some statistically backed measurements to justify a cost several times more then competitiors.

Therefore, since you are essentially taking a shot in the dark, you may aswell try a cheap cable first. If it works, stick with it, if not you will quickly know. Then you can work your way up. I have done exactly that with 4 x 15m cables (all cheaper then this cable) and they work perfectly well.

There is only one device I have an issue with, which was one of the early HDMI equiped LCD's. I've tried my friends more expensive 10m cable with this and the same random failures occured. Clearly the voltage at that distance is approaching the limits of tolerance of the early DAC in this TV. Only a signal boosting HDMI Matirx has resolved the issues with this TV.

In summary voted cold as they make alot of claims but provide little justification for these claims.


Edited By: Mentos on Feb 04, 2011 14:03: .
#23
i never said the cable was digital did i? a cable will take what ever is sent down it voltage wise

i you stick a hdmi cable on a scope you will get square waves (not totally square as nothing can switch voltages instantly)
BUT if the voltage on the cable is high it is seen as a 1 if its low its read as 0 the voltage for a 1 can driop a long way before it is possibly seen as a 0 at this point the decoder will use error control and see it wasnt correct. in real life this mean the image will remain perfect until a critical level of errors has been detected then you will loose the display all together.

with analog signals its different slight shifts in voltage can drastically alter the data been transmitted as its no longer bright blue it now a pale blue as the voltage has dropped from the voltage that means bright blue
#24
just a quicky the hdmi certification process requires that no more than one pixel per billion be lost in transmission.
#25
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#26
@mrmcbunny
Any errors result in lost data. Lost data results in degraded picture (squaring) or choppy sound. Poor quality cables are less resistant to interference and as such the 'digital' wave form can end up with signal anomalies resulting in bit flipping. With most cheap cables being made in places like China, it's very easy for higher quality samples being HDMI approved only for the actual production runs being of a much lower quality. 1m, 2m I wouldnt lose too much sleep over it, move beyond that then I would definately pay the extra.
#27
ruddas
@mrmcbunny Any errors result in lost data. Lost data results in degraded picture (squaring) or choppy sound. Poor quality cables are less resistant to interference and as such the 'digital' wave form can end up with signal anomalies resulting in bit flipping. With most cheap cables being made in places like China, it's very easy for higher quality samples being HDMI approved only for the actual production runs being of a much lower quality. 1m, 2m I wouldnt lose too much sleep over it, move beyond that then I would definately pay the extra.

I'm not sure that being made in China is necessarily an indicator of poor quality, similar bait and switches happened with production all over the world. If a cable is approved to carry the signal you require what do you lose by trying it? Should it fail you can return it as faulty, assuming you purchased from a reputable retailer. Its not as though the likes of QED and Monster provide any warranties/guarantees of performance above and beyond the cheaper cables.

Edited By: Mentos on Feb 04, 2011 18:19
#28
Its not as though the likes of QED and Monster provide any warranties/guarantees of performance above and beyond the cheaper cables.

I didnt realise that these cheap amazon cables came with the same lifetime guarantee as a QED cable.

Edited By: cynikill on Feb 04, 2011 20:47
#29
cynikill
Its not as though the likes of QED and Monster provide any warranties/guarantees of performance above and beyond the cheaper cables.
I didnt realise that these cheap amazon cables came with the same lifetime guarantee as a QED cable.

By performance I was refering to the ability of the cable to carry the signal over its length, unaltered.

WRT any other form of indemnification, I personally don't see the value in paying several times the price to protect myself against failure of something like a cable. Given none of my several HDMI cables has failed yet (nor has anyone else complained about the HDMI cables I've recommended), I think it unlikely purchasing on the basis of such a warranty would prove prudent.
#30
The extract from the What HiFi review below would seem to imply that the previous version of this cable was so inferior that it dropped so many data bits that this version has improved Bass presence and weight???

Did they quantify that statment with hard data? Or was it purely a human psychological trait of let’s invent things that we appear to have heard to write a review.......

Based on the facts in the review this is total uninformed arrogant nonsense!

"Sound gets an added heft, too. There's also an improvement over the old cable when it comes to sound quality. The New Performance HDMI conveys a clear, open, revealing sound. Treble is sweet with no hint of brightness. There's a real sense of heft and solidity in the lower frequencies that helps to emphasise the explosive action scenes of 'Casino Royale'. Dialogue sounds clear and uncluttered too." (What HiFi Review) "


Edited By: mr keys on Feb 05, 2011 11:15
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