Quad Core Intel 4GB RAM 1TB HD ATI 4850 Bluray £405 (or £389.24 with 3.5% Quidco) @ Misco - HotUKDeals
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* Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 / 2.33 GHz ( Quad-Core )
* 4GB RAM / 1TB Hard Disk Drive
* Blu-Ray Reader, DVD RW Drive
* ATI HD 4850 VGA, 2560 x 1600 Max Resolution Dual DVI, TV Out/HDCP and HDTV
* *Includes DVI-HDMI Adapter
* Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Edition

After £50 cash back works out at £399 + £5 cheapest delivery, so £405. Not bad for that spec me thinks...
(Possibility of 3.5% Quidco too apparently making it £389.24...)
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#1
amazing specs but cant afford £405 :-(
#2
Very HOT deal, just for the parts alone!! :) :thumbsup:
#3
This looks good to me - but puzzled as to 64 bit Vista and 4gb RAM. Why not up the RAM assuming that W7 may be an option for this? Doesn't W7 need more RAM?
#4
Decent bit of kit for the money, but be careful as the motherboard is probably cheap and nasty, which will slow the thing right down, trust me ;-) Any idea on the PSU size/output ?
#5
Quids
This looks good to me - but puzzled as to 64 bit Vista and 4gb RAM. Why not up the RAM assuming that W7 may be an option for this? Doesn't W7 need more RAM?


I bought a windows 7 64 bit machine recently that only had a 32 bit motherboard ? hence could only handle 4 gb max :thinking:

Edit , yup just checked, the "MCP73-PV" only supports a max of up to 4 GB , kind of pointless having the 64 bit then. Single Channel Memory only though :-(

For this price you could buy it and replace the motherboard and it would still be cheap though.
1 Like #6
Just thought it would be worth mentioning, 4GB RAM is plenty at the minute. Just because the operating system is 64bit, it doesn't mean you need a ridiculous amount of RAM to run it.
#7
shish just rechecked the kit, you get alot for the money like the gpu good spec, blu ray and 1tb hard disk, cpu is weak thought, wish it was a Intel Core i5, but you can't always have everything. hot deal
#8
Yam
Just thought it would be worth mentioning, 4GB RAM is plenty at the minute. Just because the operating system is 64bit, it doesn't mean you need a ridiculous amount of RAM to run it.


What you have to remember though is that with the Graphics card, *prob around 512 mb* the maximum useable memory will be closer to 3 gb than 4 gb, as the system can only address 4gb in total :thumbsup:
#9
Motherboard is an Nvidia Nforce 630i (MCP73-PV)
#10
Soulreape
What you have to remember though is that with the Graphics card, *prob around 512 mb* the maximum useable memory will be closer to 3 gb than 4 gb, as the system can only address 4gb in total :thumbsup:


I've re-read that about 3 or 4 times and still don't understand what you're trying to say.

At the moment I'm running Windows 7 64bit with 4GB RAM with an AMD 4850, I have no issues with running any of the latest games in the highest settings. Although my cpu is better, but this is neither here nor there when we're talking about memory.
#11
Quids
This looks good to me - but puzzled as to 64 bit Vista and 4gb RAM. Why not up the RAM assuming that W7 may be an option for this? Doesn't W7 need more RAM?


My Windows 7 system is running off 2GB of RAM and is nice and stable, play a few games on it too
#12
Yam
I've re-read that about 3 or 4 times and still don't understand what you're trying to say.

At the moment I'm running Windows 7 64bit with 4GB RAM with an AMD 4850, I have no issues with running any of the latest games in the highest settings. Although my cpu is better, but this is neither here nor there when we're talking about memory.


You dont have to worry with 64bit machines, but 32bit can only use a total of 4GB of RAM, this includes the graphics. So if you have 4GB of RAM installed on a 32bit machine and have 1GB on the graphics card, you will only be able to address 3GB of your 4GB.
#13
I got the email about this, looks very good value for money. Fujitsu is one of the better brands of PC.
#14
geordielads
You dont have to worry with 64bit machines, but 32bit can only use a total of 4GB of RAM, this includes the graphics. So if you have 4GB of RAM installed on a 32bit machine and have 1GB on the graphics card, you will only be able to address 3GB of your 4GB.


I understand this, but as the OP stated, the machine comes with a 64bit operating system. Which is what confused me with the other posts.
banned#15
Which ram is this using?

Seems expensive really, Its a good price is people CANNOT or WILL NOT build their own.
#16
Soulreape
What you have to remember though is that with the Graphics card, *prob around 512 mb* the maximum useable memory will be closer to 3 gb than 4 gb, as the system can only address 4gb in total :thumbsup:


A 64-bit OS can handle much more than 4GB in total.
#17
blythyftm
A 64-bit OS can handle much more than 4GB in total.


aslong as your mobo can too
#18
Hamm
Which ram is this using?

Seems expensive really, Its a good price is people CANNOT or WILL NOT build their own.


Really? Doesn't seem expensive to me, you would struggle to put the parts together for that (based on some prices from Scan and Google Shopping:
CPU is £108 - none in stock at any of my "preferred" suppliers, but this is a fair price I think.Though Labda have it for that plus VAT here - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=1597065
Hard Disk is £58 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234734
Bluray combo is £52 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234290
Graphics is £80 *based on a 512meg card not sure if this is 1GB or 512meg so used the lower value - http://www.okobe.co.uk/ws/product/ASUS+Radeon+HD+4850+512MB+DDR3+SDRAM+Graphics+Card/1000006690?ref=1q4bs
Motherboard is £40 for this chipset - http://itstor.com/ecom/product_info.php?currency=GBP&products_id=1402
Memory in the order of £65 - £70 (it's 800Mhz stuff from the detailed spec) - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-%282x2GB%29-Super-Talent-Twin-DDR2-PC2-6400-%28800MHz%29-240-Pins-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-5-5-5-15

I make that over £400 WITHOUT the case, PSU and more importantly the operating system at around 80 quid!
#19
It would have been better if the OS was removed and the money was used on a better processor.
#20
Jeffers727
aslong as your mobo can too


No as far as i'm aware Say you have a board take for example the one posted above

model MCP73-PV this is a cheap board with only Memory: 2 x DDR2 240-pin DIMM slots support up to 2GB DDR2 800

The simple reason for this is it's a cheap board and it's how it's manufactured.

If you then went on to put 4gig of ram in there, there would then be no problems as far as i'm aware, putting say a 1 gig graphics card in there. You would still address, and be able to use the full 5 gig under a 64 bit operating system.

There is no 32 bit limit in this case, the simple reason for the 4 gig limit on the motherboard is the 2x dimm slots, and poor memory controller.
#21
bobbler
Really? Doesn't seem expensive to me, you would struggle to put the parts together for that (based on some prices from Scan and Google Shopping:
CPU is £108 - none in stock at any of my "preferred" suppliers, but this is a fair price I think.Though Labda have it for that plus VAT here - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=1597065
Hard Disk is £58 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234734
Bluray combo is £52 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234290
Graphics is £80 *based on a 512meg card not sure if this is 1GB or 512meg so used the lower value - http://www.okobe.co.uk/ws/product/ASUS+Radeon+HD+4850+512MB+DDR3+SDRAM+Graphics+Card/1000006690?ref=1q4bs
Motherboard is £40 for this chipset - http://itstor.com/ecom/product_info.php?currency=GBP&products_id=1402
Memory in the order of £65 - £70 (it's 800Mhz stuff from the detailed spec) - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-%282x2GB%29-Super-Talent-Twin-DDR2-PC2-6400-%28800MHz%29-240-Pins-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-5-5-5-15

I make that over £400 WITHOUT the case, PSU and more importantly the operating system at around 80 quid!



Agreed very good deal. ignore the same trolls who post the same thing in every computer thread.

Building your own computer is more about customisation, and getting exactly what you want inside your system. It's not always the cheapest method.
suspended#22
the card is 512
#23
bobbler
Really? Doesn't seem expensive to me, you would struggle to put the parts together for that (based on some prices from Scan and Google Shopping:
CPU is £108 - none in stock at any of my "preferred" suppliers, but this is a fair price I think.Though Labda have it for that plus VAT here - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=1597065
Hard Disk is £58 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234734
Bluray combo is £52 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234290
Graphics is £80 *based on a 512meg card not sure if this is 1GB or 512meg so used the lower value - http://www.okobe.co.uk/ws/product/ASUS+Radeon+HD+4850+512MB+DDR3+SDRAM+Graphics+Card/1000006690?ref=1q4bs
Motherboard is £40 for this chipset - http://itstor.com/ecom/product_info.php?currency=GBP&products_id=1402
Memory in the order of £65 - £70 (it's 800Mhz stuff from the detailed spec) - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-%282x2GB%29-Super-Talent-Twin-DDR2-PC2-6400-%28800MHz%29-240-Pins-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-5-5-5-15

I make that over £400 WITHOUT the case, PSU and more importantly the operating system at around 80 quid!


You can Build a i5 Machine (with a proper video Card not the crappy 4850) Which is Ages better than this for the same price :whistling:
#24
andycorleone
You can Build a i5 Machine (with a proper video Card not the crappy 4850) Which is Ages better than this for the same price :whistling:


I'd like to see you try.
#25
Cpu £99 (doubt you can overclock with this motherboard and as stated limited to 4Gb)
Hard Disk £56 (likely to be Hitachi - not as popular)
4850 £80 (better value is 4870 @ £99)
Ram 2x 2Gb £55 (worth paying £70 for a good brand)
BluRay Combo £75 (good value)
Case & Psu £35

Gues what i'm saying is you can get better for the money, but it's not a terrible deal as you get Windows 7 included
#26
Renal123
I'd like to see you try.


I'm not going to do your homework :viking:
#27
Not a bad deal at all, especially with all the overpriced desktops out there.

This is about £50 cheaper than you'll find similar spec for anywhere else.
#28
andycorleone
You can Build a i5 Machine (with a proper video Card not the crappy 4850) Which is Ages better than this for the same price :whistling:


Really price it up and show me?


make sure you include a operating system as well.

As i do not see how it can be done very rough guide below

Cpu £140
blu ray £40
hdd £ 55
motherboard £80
Graphics card £60 and you say you can get better for less good luck.
Case / psu £40 and i would say that is on very very low side as i would not trust a cheap psu
Memory it's expensive atm £70

Operating system £70

Kind of just over the £400 mark don't you think?

And yes you could go second had which is the only way you come come, close but then it's not exactly the same is it?
#29
J400uk
I got the email about this, looks very good value for money. Fujitsu is one of the better brands of PC.


Renal123
I'd like to see you try.


Second that.

Considering the cheapest i5 (on overclockers) is £143, I can't imagine you finding a lot of decent components with the spare cash.
#30
bobbler
Really? Doesn't seem expensive to me, you would struggle to put the parts together for that (based on some prices from Scan and Google Shopping:
CPU is £108 - none in stock at any of my "preferred" suppliers, but this is a fair price I think.Though Labda have it for that plus VAT here - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=1597065
Hard Disk is £58 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234734
Bluray combo is £52 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234290
Graphics is £80 *based on a 512meg card not sure if this is 1GB or 512meg so used the lower value - http://www.okobe.co.uk/ws/product/ASUS+Radeon+HD+4850+512MB+DDR3+SDRAM+Graphics+Card/1000006690?ref=1q4bs
Motherboard is £40 for this chipset - http://itstor.com/ecom/product_info.php?currency=GBP&products_id=1402
Memory in the order of £65 - £70 (it's 800Mhz stuff from the detailed spec) - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-%282x2GB%29-Super-Talent-Twin-DDR2-PC2-6400-%28800MHz%29-240-Pins-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-5-5-5-15

I make that over £400 WITHOUT the case, PSU and more importantly the operating system at around 80 quid!


Yep. I did similar calculations. Though Software4Students can reduce the cost of Vista. Plus, if you were to build your own, you would get a much better MB for £50 - £75, and then DDR3 RAM is the same price as DDR2. Though you might as well buy this system and replace those components (£150) and then sell the MB and DDR2 (£75 back). Then the question is whether you'd bother building a s775 system anyway. Perhaps save up for an i5 or i7.

As has been said - it comes down to customisation. If you're after a decent s775 system, get this as a base and upgrade. If you're happy with only 4gb and limited room for upgrades, I think it would be hard to beat this deal. If you want the i5 or i7 - why are you looking at this?
#31
andycorleone
I'm not going to do your homework :viking:


Cos you cannot.

i5 - £150
Mobo - £70 (generous budget price)
4GB DDR3 Ram - £80
PSU 500w - £50
1TB HDD - £65
Case - £20

Not including the OS, Blu-Ray and GPU. Still over £400. Now get outta 'ere. :thumbsup:
#32
Quids;7660382
This looks good to me - but puzzled as to 64 bit Vista and 4gb RAM. Why not up the RAM assuming that W7 may be an option for this? Doesn't W7 need more RAM?

w7 32bit or 64bit needs less ram
#33
andycorleone
I'm not going to do your homework :viking:


I see the community spirit of the site is alive and well in you then :roll:

I5 is £143 - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel-Core-i5-650-S1156-Dual-Core-320GHz-4MB-Cache-73W-Integrated-Graphics-Retail
Motherboard is £73 - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigabyte-H55M-S2H-Intel-H55-1156-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1600-1800-2133-SATA-3Gb-s-ATX-VGA
1TB Disk £58 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234734
Bluray combo £52 - http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B234290
Memory £84 - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-%282x2GB%29-CorsairTwinX-XMS3-DDR3-PC3-10666-%281333MHz%29-240-Pin-Unbuffered-CAS-9-9-9-24-DHX (may want to change that I am not up on what is needed for this CPU)

Up to £410 - without graphics, yeah easily doable on £400
#34
GRiDlock
Cpu £99 (doubt you can overclock with this motherboard and as stated limited to 4Gb)
Hard Disk £56 (likely to be Hitachi - not as popular)
4850 £80 (better value is 4870 @ £99)
Ram 2x 2Gb £55 (worth paying £70 for a good brand)
BluRay Combo £75 (good value)
Case & Psu £35

Gues what i'm saying is you can get better for the money, but it's not a terrible deal as you get Windows 7 included


Motherboard?
Ram is also generally £70 for 4GB atm, but the Bluray is £50ish...
#35
or you could buy a mac...


only joking
#36


He could just place those components on his desk without a case/psu/keyboard/mouse/gfx and pretend its a PC.
#37
good deal for those who dont want to build their own.....just be aware that this will ddr2 memory which will go up in price...if you look at an i5 or i7 based system they will use ddr3 memory which is getting cheaper..for now

if you are ok at building and want a quad core pc then this isnt bad
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/barebones.html

250.00
slightly faster processor, better case and psu, more upgradeable but you need to add
graphics card - 60
os - win7 - think you can still get this for £80 or £35 for students
blu ray - £40
hard disk 1tb about £55

so about £485ish

and if required, keyboard/mouse £15-20
#38
mikeyb;7661355
or you could buy a mac...


only joking



haha...yeh lets all go and buy overpriced dressed up yesteryear tech....
dont get me wrong i like the look of macs but they are way way overpriced and make alienware pc's look like amazing value
#39
Renal123
It would have been better if the OS was removed and the money was used on a better processor.


I'll second that. Its about time it became normal practice not to include an OS.
#40
Soulreape
I bought a windows 7 64 bit machine recently that only had a 32 bit motherboard ? hence could only handle 4 gb max :thinking:

Edit , yup just checked, the "MCP73-PV" only supports a max of up to 4 GB , kind of pointless having the 64 bit then. Single Channel Memory only though :-(

For this price you could buy it and replace the motherboard and it would still be cheap though.

Thanks. but I'm running Photoshop and - according to latest reports - it runs better with 6+Gb of RAM so wanted that option.

Cheers anyway.

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