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R9 280 - £149.99 @ Overclockers

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Great deal for an R9 280.
Description does lead me to believe this is actually a 280X as well so even better!
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[helper] 1 Like #1
Thanks for posting, retailer, price and image added :)
1 Like #2
missgem
Thanks for posting, retailer, price and image added :)
Thanks for adding the info!
#3
this is a reasonable price normally retails at about the £200 mark voted hot from me.
#4
stevenjjoy
Description does lead me to believe this is actually a 280X as well so even better!

Not a bad deal, voted hot. I'm pretty sure its not the 280X though. Info from Powercolors website:

http://www.powercolor.com/global/products_features.asp?id=540

vs 280X:

http://www.powercolor.com/global/products_features.asp?id=512

You'll see from the engine clock speed that this is probably just the standard 280

Edit: Just noticed that the MSI R9 280 is the same price which is a much better brand and better card

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-251-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1842

Edited By: scotty220 on Jul 07, 2014 14:37
#5
scotty220
[quote=stevenjjoy]

Edit: Just noticed that the MSI R9 280 is the same price which is a much better brand and better card

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-251-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1842

Not a bad spot, I just noticed on the front page and thought it was't bad!

The MSI you spotted is better yes.
#6
Never mind the clock speeds, it says "Stream Processors: 1792" which is 7950 aka R9-280, while the 7970 aka R9-280X has 2048 Stream Processors.
#7
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card

Edited By: scotty220 on Jul 07, 2014 14:53: Deal Posted
#8
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2

Much better card

How do you make that out? Unless you mean the brand or something, a R9-270X (aka HD7870) a fair bit slower than a R9-280 (aka 7950).
#9
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2

Much better card

Why do you say it's a much better card? The memory bus is much higher on the 280, it's generally a more powerful card with reasonable overclock room...
#10
Mainly due to the brands tbh. MSI cards respond very well to OC, even the ones which are factory OC'd. Powercolor are a good make but, though (IMO) MSI are one of the best out there.

There's also the added bonus of better clock speed and memory. All in all a better card, IMO
#12
scotty220
Mainly due to the brands tbh. MSI cards respond very well to OC, even the ones which are factory OC'd. Powercolor are a good make but, though (IMO) MSI are one of the best out there.

There's also the added bonus of better clock speed and memory. All in all a better card, IMO

I got the Sapphire 280 for basically the same price as this (£151 after cashback), I don't know about powercolor but the 280 is great at this price point.
#13
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card

Yeah MSi is a better company, but even if the 270x does overclock better, it would still not reach the same performance level as the 280 does, so the r9 280 would be the better option, The powercolor is the better card overall, more GPU power, and if the cooler is the same as on the 280x version then it's also not very loud.

http://www.eteknix.com/powercolor-r9-280x-turboduo-3gb-graphics-card-review/19/
That's the review for the 280x version.
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scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card

You couldn't be more wrong.

270x<280<280x

Simples.

Edited By: Minstadave on Jul 07, 2014 15:42
#15
IMO, 4 is sometimes slightly better than 5, IMO.
#16
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card

The 270x des onto have enough juice to use 4GB in general, unless you go crossfire. And no the 270x is not better than the 280, 'msi' dosnt make it better than power colour.

Side note: power color has special warranty with ocuk that you can remove the cooler without voiding warranty. Maybe useful to some.
#17
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card
Why would you spend more money on a slower card? Genuinely interested in your reasoning here.
#18
naodai_mmx
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card

The 270x des onto have enough juice to use 4GB in general, unless you go crossfire. And no the 270x is not better than the 280, 'msi' dosnt make it better than power colour.

Side note: power color has special warranty with ocuk that you can remove the cooler without voiding warranty. Maybe useful to some.

Agreed that the 4GB is slightly surplus unless using crossfire (it'll use up to around 3.4gb of the 4), though I still stand by that the 270x 4GB is a better card overall than this Powercool. The 4GB will future proof you more than this 280 plus the warranty is 3 years as opposed to 2 years. It'l like people saying 7 years ago that a 2GB GPU is useless compared to 1GB.
#19
scotty220

Agreed that the 4GB is slightly surplus unless using crossfire (it'll use up to around 3.4gb of the 4), though I still stand by that the 270x 4GB is a better card overall than this Powercool.

3.4GB? Where did you get that number from? It's not like running a 32-bit Windows with 4GB you know. I'm sure if you were to take Watch Dogs and set it to Ultra + Ultra Textures (the Ultra preset only defaults to High Textures) and set a high enough resolution and AA you can run out of the whole 4GB. But the point is that at that stage that Pitcairn (R9-270X) card will be running really slow as it doesn't have the power. 4GB on a R9-270X is mostly a waste of money.

Anyway, the MSI R9-280 from post #4 is better deal.

Edited By: kgrings on Jul 07, 2014 17:10
#20
Uhh the 280 is significantly more powerful than 270x. The extra gigabyte of VRAM isn't really a factor.
#21
scotty220
naodai_mmx
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card

The 270x des onto have enough juice to use 4GB in general, unless you go crossfire. And no the 270x is not better than the 280, 'msi' dosnt make it better than power colour.

Side note: power color has special warranty with ocuk that you can remove the cooler without voiding warranty. Maybe useful to some.

Agreed that the 4GB is slightly surplus unless using crossfire (it'll use up to around 3.4gb of the 4), though I still stand by that the 270x 4GB is a better card overall than this Powercool. The 4GB will future proof you more than this 280 plus the warranty is 3 years as opposed to 2 years. It'l like people saying 7 years ago that a 2GB GPU is useless compared to 1GB.

extra warranty is good. But 270x is no where near future proof. It is an old generation card. Of course more memory is better, only if you pair it with a powerful enough gpu to make use of it in a sensible way, not crappy 20 fps with loads mods. Btw if you are gonna throw £300 on dual 270x why not just get a 290/x with 4gb for similar money?

The 3.4GB is an interesting point. You either have some specific experience with memory usage, or you are completely mixing up 32bit system and video card memory :/

Edited By: naodai_mmx on Jul 07, 2014 17:45
#22
This is just a HD 7950 renamed that was a good card but right now we are not seeing huge jumps just price cuts.
#23
kgrings
scotty220

Agreed that the 4GB is slightly surplus unless using crossfire (it'll use up to around 3.4gb of the 4), though I still stand by that the 270x 4GB is a better card overall than this Powercool.

3.4GB? Where did you get that number from? It's not like running a 32-bit Windows with 4GB you know. I'm sure if you were to take Watch Dogs and set it to Ultra + Ultra Textures (the Ultra preset only defaults to High Textures) and set a high enough resolution and AA you can run out of the whole 4GB. But the point is that at that stage that Pitcairn (R9-270X) card will be running really slow as it doesn't have the power. 4GB on a R9-270X is mostly a waste of money.

Anyway, the MSI R9-280 from post #4 is better deal.

2.8 to 3.4 of Vram is roughly what a 256bit bus can utilise. I think your getting confused, not sure why you're mentioning windows systems and the fact that 32 bit can only use 3gb oO I guess that's what you're getting at?

Edited By: scotty220 on Jul 07, 2014 22:40
#24
scotty220
kgrings
scotty220

Agreed that the 4GB is slightly surplus unless using crossfire (it'll use up to around 3.4gb of the 4), though I still stand by that the 270x 4GB is a better card overall than this Powercool.

3.4GB? Where did you get that number from? It's not like running a 32-bit Windows with 4GB you know. I'm sure if you were to take Watch Dogs and set it to Ultra + Ultra Textures (the Ultra preset only defaults to High Textures) and set a high enough resolution and AA you can run out of the whole 4GB. But the point is that at that stage that Pitcairn (R9-270X) card will be running really slow as it doesn't have the power. 4GB on a R9-270X is mostly a waste of money.

Anyway, the MSI R9-280 from post #4 is better deal.

2.8 to 3.4 of Vram is roughly what a 256bit bus can utilise. I think your getting confused, not sure why you're mentioning windows systems and the fact that 32 bit can only use 3gb oO I guess that's what you're getting at?

What? What does VRAM size has to do with 256bit bus??? Where did you read that from?
#25
naodai_mmx
scotty220
kgrings
scotty220

Agreed that the 4GB is slightly surplus unless using crossfire (it'll use up to around 3.4gb of the 4), though I still stand by that the 270x 4GB is a better card overall than this Powercool.

3.4GB? Where did you get that number from? It's not like running a 32-bit Windows with 4GB you know. I'm sure if you were to take Watch Dogs and set it to Ultra + Ultra Textures (the Ultra preset only defaults to High Textures) and set a high enough resolution and AA you can run out of the whole 4GB. But the point is that at that stage that Pitcairn (R9-270X) card will be running really slow as it doesn't have the power. 4GB on a R9-270X is mostly a waste of money.

Anyway, the MSI R9-280 from post #4 is better deal.

2.8 to 3.4 of Vram is roughly what a 256bit bus can utilise. I think your getting confused, not sure why you're mentioning windows systems and the fact that 32 bit can only use 3gb oO I guess that's what you're getting at?

What? What does VRAM size has to do with 256bit bus??? Where did you read that from?

There's quite a few threads in various forums of users carrying out their own research. Here's one such example:

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/102972-about-4gb-of-vram-on-a-256-bit-interface/

Can't say I've had any experience as I don't currently have a 4GB card, hence why I've been reading up on them as a possible replacement for my rather old gtx560ti
#26
keepitonthelow
This is just a HD 7950 renamed that was a good card but right now we are not seeing huge jumps just price cuts.
Renamed and tweaked a fair bit, in general they perform as well as a HD 7970.
#27
Scotty your posts are misinformed yet you post as if they were fact.

The extra RAM on the 270 is irrelevant, it will always be slower than a 280. It is no more future proof. It is however a better make with a better warranty.

Edited By: Minstadave on Jul 09, 2014 15:50
#28
Well as it happens, Xbitlabs did just compare 4GB 270X vs 280:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/msi-r9-280-gaming-3g_8.html#sect0
As expected, the R9-280 is 14-20% faster at 1080P (as expected, the difference is even bigger at 1440P)

That threat is totally irrelevant.
First of all it only talks about Nvidia's GK104 variants which is of course totally useless for talking about AMD Pitcairn or Tahiti performance; AMD doesn't do the 'disable-memory-controllers-for-lower-variants' like Nvidia do (so no 192-bit asymmetric cards).
Secondly, even Geforce GTX 770 there is hardly anything exactly like a 2.8GB-3.4GB hard limit it seems to be more an interaction between the way Nvidia's driver allocates resources (always possible it's on purpose for GK104 so that for higher settings people buy GK110 (780/780Ti)).
Actually, I suspect the OP on that thread really doesn't know what they are talking about.

Edited By: kgrings on Jul 10, 2014 11:00
#29
scotty220
If it were my money I'd spend the extra £10 and get an MSI R9 270x 4GB for here

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-270X-Gaming-Graphics-2xDVI/dp/B00H855YT2 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-r9-270x-gaming-4g-pcie-graphics-card-plus-possibly-2-free-games-159-98-amazon-1947793)

Much better card

You work for MSI ? X)
Actually, I am having so much trouble with an MSI 7770 - sent back to MSI for repair, they did nothing. Just sent it back. I'd never touch an MSI product again.

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