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polly69
Would rather pay the extra 50p and get it direct from Amazon, its not worth saving that little money when things go wrong if they do amazon will replace without any issues at all.

Thanks for giving us small business people a kicking.

Edited By: tan159 on Jul 28, 2014 01:42

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4 Likes #1
Would rather pay the extra 50p and get it direct from Amazon, its not worth saving that little money when things go wrong if they do amazon will replace without any issues at all.
#2
Wouldn't mind having a play with one of these.

:-)
#3
looking to buy one for the little one as computer coding is supposed to become a part of the curriculum this year, the headlines being 'how will teachers cope'.
1 Like #4
Just recently purchased one of these from the pihut, makes a great htcp using openelec...
5 Likes #5
polly69
Would rather pay the extra 50p and get it direct from Amazon, its not worth saving that little money when things go wrong if they do amazon will replace without any issues at all.

Thanks for giving us small business people a kicking.

Edited By: tan159 on Jul 28, 2014 01:42
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tan159
polly69
Would rather pay the extra 50p and get it direct from Amazon, its not worth saving that little money when things go wrong if they do amazon will replace without any issues at all.

Thanks for giving us small business people a kicking.


Offer better customer service or stop trying to compete with those who can. And while you're at it, stop crying too.
#7
Hummingboard is much more powerful: http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/
1gb ram
opengl
powered usb
i.mx6 processor ( from 1.mx6 single, upto - 2x ARM® Cortex™-A9 1.2 GHz)
Different processor models range from £25- £59

Quite a powerful device imho

But it's an Israeli company.....


Edited By: compingcomping on Jul 28, 2014 03:31
#8
compingcomping
Hummingboard is much more powerful: http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/
1gb ram
opengl
powered usb
i.mx6 processor ( from 1.mx6 single, upto - 2x ARM® Cortex™-A9 1.2 GHz)
Different processor models range from £25- £59

Quite a powerful device imho

But it's an Israeli company.....


The Pi has a fantastic GPU, the Hummingboard does not.
banned#9
I'm interested.

Is Flubit still a thing?
#10
rev6
compingcomping
Hummingboard is much more powerful: http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/
1gb ram
opengl
powered usb
i.mx6 processor ( from 1.mx6 single, upto - 2x ARM® Cortex™-A9 1.2 GHz)
Different processor models range from £25- £59

Quite a powerful device imho

But it's an Israeli company.....


The Pi has a fantastic GPU, the Hummingboard does not.

I'd like it if in future if the pifoundation implemented a Soc-like system to allow us to use different processor chips. Not too fussed about powered usb tbh. But what i'd really-really like is video-in capability, not just video-out.

Edited By: compingcomping on Jul 28, 2014 03:55
banned#11
ShortChange
Wouldn't mind having a play with one of these.

:-)


Yeah! Plug in stuff and listen to them go whhhhhhuurrrrr.

Epic excitement on a monumental scale.
#12
I am really looking at getting a pi. Thinking of either using it as server,perhaps a bit coin rig or maybe something for torrents etc. What i am wonder, I have already a usb wifi that runs on a windows pc. Would the drivers be linux that i need for it to work?

Edited By: leeparsons on Jul 28, 2014 04:07
#13
compingcomping
rev6
compingcomping
Hummingboard is much more powerful: http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/
1gb ram
opengl
powered usb
i.mx6 processor ( from 1.mx6 single, upto - 2x ARM® Cortex™-A9 1.2 GHz)
Different processor models range from £25- £59

Quite a powerful device imho

But it's an Israeli company.....


The Pi has a fantastic GPU, the Hummingboard does not.

I'd like it if in future if the pifoundation implemented a Soc-like system to allow us to use different processor chips. Not too fussed about powered usb tbh. But what i'd really-really like is video-in capability, not just video-out.

That's not what the Pi project is about. If you could swap things out, all the dev work gone into the current SoC would be wasted.


leeparsons
I am really looking at getting a pi. Thinking of either using it as server,perhaps a bit coin rig or maybe something for torrents etc. What i am wonder, I have already a usb wifi that runs on a windows pc. Would the drivers be linux that i need for it to work?

Usually. I have 2 that work on my B model, but one of them drains too much power and causes reboots now and then. The B+ shouldn't have issues though.
#14
leeparsons
I am really looking at getting a pi. Thinking of either using it as server,perhaps a bit coin rig or maybe something for torrents etc. What i am wonder, I have already a usb wifi that runs on a windows pc. Would the drivers be linux that i need for it to work?


I'm pretty sure these are nowhere near powerful enough for bitcoin mining on any relevant scale.
#15
I still don't understand what the hell these bloody things do !!
#16
unhappybunny
I still don't understand what the hell these bloody things do !!

http://www.cnet.com/uk/how-to/25-fun-things-to-do-with-a-raspberry-pi/
#17
unhappybunny
I still don't understand what the hell these bloody things do !!

In a nutshell terms
Its a complete mini computer for sub £30. It can run Linux (free operating system) instead of Windows or Mac OSX.
It does pretty much the same as any computer albeit at a low cost and low power (both usage and the actual speed of the device - though is enough for web browsing, office type applications and email).
Plug in an SD card for storage (same as a hard disk on a proper computer, software downloaded onto the card to get it going from another machine) and keyboard, mouse in the USB ports, monitor or HD telly via the HDMI port and off you go.

It's a popular cheap device for running XBMC on, which is a media playback software, turning a TV into a smart TV with extra functionality. Though it is a bit "slow" and "laggy" in comparison to any number of Android based devices which are made specifically as media players.
It also has the added benefit of a bunch of input and output pins which can be programmed for turning into a device for use in bigger electronic projects - robotics for example.
Its about the size of a fag packet

Originally designed as a general purpose computer to make it low cost to get into computer coding for the younger generation/schools/colleges

Pretty video and description also here which may help:
http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/what-is-a-raspberry-pi/
#18
listerdude
leeparsons
I am really looking at getting a pi. Thinking of either using it as server,perhaps a bit coin rig or maybe something for torrents etc. What i am wonder, I have already a usb wifi that runs on a windows pc. Would the drivers be linux that i need for it to work?

I'm pretty sure these are nowhere near powerful enough for bitcoin mining on any relevant scale.

The device itself isn't what you'd use for mining (i.e. its own internal processing) - but there are configurations that have been put together that use the Pi as a controller and USB manager, they've then put a stack of USB based "Block Erupters" which look like USB keys and run from a USB port. These things just crunch numbers very very well (two of them matches a top-end video card chewing vastly more power), you can put arrays of them together with USB hubs and they effectively give you a very powerful maths processing rig; the bandwidth of USB2 is fine for the data going back and forth and the Pi manages it all. An example of this can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha8wt56Rn6U

The problem is the Erupters and the cost of mining the bitcoins isn't really adding up any more AFAIK, the cost of finding new coins even with that type of rig isn't worth it any more; my information may be out of date though, it's a fluid thing. The Pi's job in this is a classic example of where it is starting to really shine - it's a well known, consistent and homogenised device; you can put it to work controlling lighting and other things through its control pins, it's a very well known device and much of the work has already been done for the really difficult things (or it's possible to find a way to do it more easily).

I have two of these at the moment, one I'm using as a media player (XBMC) an the other as a gateway (where I'm staying right now has really awful wifi which requires a browser and client to authenticate so I can't simply use a DD-WRT router). It can host web services, bittorrent clients, all sorts of stuff though; and most importantly much of that has been worked out rather well in most cases.
#19
I want to add my video receiver to it, and use it to record & display live video. Not sure how..
#20
rev6
leeparsons
I am really looking at getting a pi. Thinking of either using it as server,perhaps a bit coin rig or maybe something for torrents etc. What i am wonder, I have already a usb wifi that runs on a windows pc. Would the drivers be linux that i need for it to work?

Usually. I have 2 that work on my B model, but one of them drains too much power and causes reboots now and then. The B+ shouldn't have issues though.
That could also be due to the power adapter you're using... I was using an old Blackberry .7a charger on mine and that works fine for two of my WiFi adapters, but didn't for a third (external TP-Link one with dual antennae)... I tried a 1a charger instead and that worked fine.
I've had no problems with Edimax nano adapters being recognised and working with a .7a charger on the older models anyway.
One of these does the job nicely - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edimax-EW-7811UN-150Mbps-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406530583&sr=1-1&keywords=wifi+adapter
It also works fine with the older white model


Edited By: dfunked on Jul 28, 2014 08:01
#21
leeparsons
I am really looking at getting a pi. Thinking of either using it as server,perhaps a bit coin rig or maybe something for torrents etc. What i am wonder, I have already a usb wifi that runs on a windows pc. Would the drivers be linux that i need for it to work?

The ship has sailed on Bitcoin mining and you definitely can't get it done with a Raspberry Pi using USB miners any more either, just doesn't make enough coin to be worth it. In work we used 24 graphics cards R9 270 to RR 280X and it was a waste of time and money.

I was using my Pi for just XBMC, which was pretty good but too buggy. I will be using it for a proper GPIO / Video source controller project which I can't go in to any more detail about for prototyping. Also the Pi makes an excellent HD IP Camera, better than cameras costing £200+ using a simple Logitech C270 or similar webcam. There's so much you can do. Also don't code for the sake of it, code because you need to, time is something we never get back. Code because you have a reason to code! I have an idea for an app, but I might have to share that idea with a friend so I can get the app developed, as he's an awesome programmer and I'm useless at coding.

When I was 17 my friend and I took a Tandy TRS80 Model III computer and wrote a terminal emulation program to connect and interface with an acoustic coupler (you'd have to look up one of those) to get online (pre web pages) to connect to Bulletin Board Systems. The fact I did this at 17 still boggles my mind, I'm 43 now and my potential was lost to other things. Such is life. When you're young things are new, they're easier, but even though I'm older now, I'll never stop messing with gadgets, one day I'll make my money :)



Edited By: fishmaster on Jul 28, 2014 08:24: <>
#22
bobbler
unhappybunny
I still don't understand what the hell these bloody things do !!

It's a popular cheap device for running XBMC on, which is a media playback software, turning a TV into a smart TV with extra functionality. Though it is a bit "slow" and "laggy" in comparison to any number of Android based devices which are made specifically as media players.

Nothing slow or laggy about RaspBMC (or OpenElec) on a Raspberry Pi in my experience. Mine (running off a USB stick, connected to NAS media share and remote mySQL database) is running brilliantly :)
#23
Excellent - found and bought this yesterday before I saw this :)

The b+ is the latest model but I think the price has gone up now though.

To anyone interested in buying one price up the accessories separately as I found that was cheaper than buying a starter set.
#24
AdamBrunt
bobbler
unhappybunny
I still don't understand what the hell these bloody things do !!

It's a popular cheap device for running XBMC on, which is a media playback software, turning a TV into a smart TV with extra functionality. Though it is a bit "slow" and "laggy" in comparison to any number of Android based devices which are made specifically as media players.

Nothing slow or laggy about RaspBMC (or OpenElec) on a Raspberry Pi in my experience. Mine (running off a USB stick, connected to NAS media share and remote mySQL database) is running brilliantly :)

In my experience it was slow and laggy, but then I had the original PI as was one of the lucky one's to get one from first release batch from CPC (in fact I got sent two for some reason...) . I am sure things have moved on greatly from software point of view as well as operating system support but I just found it painful to use at that time and was bought for the sole use of XBMC or other media playback system. I also had a terrible amount of noise on the sound output using HDMI at the time but believe this may have been down to USB power supply being two low I found out after selling them both.
#25
AdamBrunt
bobbler
unhappybunny
I still don't understand what the hell these bloody things do !!

It's a popular cheap device for running XBMC on, which is a media playback software, turning a TV into a smart TV with extra functionality. Though it is a bit "slow" and "laggy" in comparison to any number of Android based devices which are made specifically as media players.

Nothing slow or laggy about RaspBMC (or OpenElec) on a Raspberry Pi in my experience. Mine (running off a USB stick, connected to NAS media share and remote mySQL database) is running brilliantly :)

The thing that annoys me the most, is the bugginess of XBMC, I can often get the Pi to freeze even when using a decent PSU when selecting a certain settings in the settings menu. The most criminal thing about XBMC is lack of a proper web browser! It's so useful to be able to look up settings or just have access to properly rendered web pages.

I use an Android app called Yatse to control XBMC, which works very well. Better than the XBMC remote app >

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.leetzone.android.yatsewidgetfree&hl=en_GB
1 Like #26
bobbler


In my experience it was slow and laggy, but then I had the original PI as was one of the lucky one's to get one from first release batch from CPC (in fact I got sent two for some reason...) . I am sure things have moved on greatly from software point of view as well as operating system support but I just found it painful to use at that time and was bought for the sole use of XBMC or other media playback system. I also had a terrible amount of noise on the sound output using HDMI at the time but believe this may have been down to USB power supply being two low I found out after selling them both.

Bobbler - I started with the original Model B and found the same at first however the optimisation work done for XBMC, particularly with the latest releases of Raspbmc is quite extraordinary. It went from laggy and jittery playback of MP4 files to pretty much liquid smooth, right now my original B system is playing a 720p video sourced from the network (standard ethernet) and I'm running an SSH session with HTOP showing active CPU load of less than 28% and about 73-74mb of memory used; I'd recommend giving it another try with the new releases, it's very surprising.
#27
davocc
bobbler


In my experience it was slow and laggy, but then I had the original PI as was one of the lucky one's to get one from first release batch from CPC (in fact I got sent two for some reason...) . I am sure things have moved on greatly from software point of view as well as operating system support but I just found it painful to use at that time and was bought for the sole use of XBMC or other media playback system. I also had a terrible amount of noise on the sound output using HDMI at the time but believe this may have been down to USB power supply being two low I found out after selling them both.

Bobbler - I started with the original Model B and found the same at first however the optimisation work done for XBMC, particularly with the latest releases of Raspbmc is quite extraordinary. It went from laggy and jittery playback of MP4 files to pretty much liquid smooth, right now my original B system is playing a 720p video sourced from the network (standard ethernet) and I'm running an SSH session with HTOP showing active CPU load of less than 28% and about 73-74mb of memory used; I'd recommend giving it another try with the new releases, it's very surprising.

Thanks for that Davocc, may get myself another one and revisit it. For the price I can't see why not give it another go, besides it can be used elsewhere if required at a later date.
I went over to a Roku with Plex on the server side which does all our media and is fairly wife friendly too, but I do miss the extras of XBMC and would take the load off the server too with direct playback from the shares instead.
#28
are these worth getting now or waiting - is a new model around the corner?

I have been told i can use one of these for plex or XMBC and plug an external harddrive in to watch films on via tv usb or hdmi port. but i will also need a powered usb cable for the drive.
is there a new model in the works?
#29
T3rm3y - there is allegedly a new model in 1-2 years time - the B+ will be it for a while though. There are other devices similar to the Pi, none with quite the same support community though (therefore potentially more work to set up that way); the trick with these things is balancing out the tech with the cost based on the original brief.

The 4 ports on the B+ is a big bonus and much more convenient, it also opens up other uses such as USB-over-ethernet. As Bobbler said you can re-task it for other things which is a bonus; looking at some of the videos online (boblight, home automation, etc.) it really makes me want to go out and buy far more gear than I have talent to handle.
#30
Bobbler - the Plex config I've never tried myself, my understand is that this does transcoding on the server - is that right? The XBMC config does none of that, it simply pulls the file from the source and plays it relying on the Pi's video hardware to do most of that work. In the longer term I might go for a PC based solution for my playback medium as I'd like to have a bit more oomph but I've yet to make that technical decision yet; am investigating the new J1900 quad-core Celeron (really atom) chipsets, they're so new that driver support and linux support is very new and undeveloped right now.
#31
davocc
T3rm3y - there is allegedly a new model in 1-2 years time - the B+ will be it for a while though. There are other devices similar to the Pi, none with quite the same support community though (therefore potentially more work to set up that way); the trick with these things is balancing out the tech with the cost based on the original brief.

The 4 ports on the B+ is a big bonus and much more convenient, it also opens up other uses such as USB-over-ethernet. As Bobbler said you can re-task it for other things which is a bonus; looking at some of the videos online (boblight, home automation, etc.) it really makes me want to go out and buy far more gear than I have talent to handle.

Should be quite easy to do some of those mate, Boblight for instance I have something similar going on the Adruino kit (Adalight) and didn't take too long to get it all going as there's plenty of Youtube and online guides to do anything - though you do end up spending a bit on the LED's etc. Think the RPI has much the same input/output pins and can run similar routines once you have the libraries loaded for GPIO stuff.
Thinking if it doesn't get used for media playback then I can always run Octaprint on it later in the year when my 3D printer gets here - got a Micro3D due in November :D
Pay day today so have ordered a new Pi to play with ;)
#32
davocc
Bobbler - the Plex config I've never tried myself, my understand is that this does transcoding on the server - is that right? The XBMC config does none of that, it simply pulls the file from the source and plays it relying on the Pi's video hardware to do most of that work. In the longer term I might go for a PC based solution for my playback medium as I'd like to have a bit more oomph but I've yet to make that technical decision yet; am investigating the new J1900 quad-core Celeron (really atom) chipsets, they're so new that driver support and linux support is very new and undeveloped right now.

Yeah correct mate. Plex streams and decodes data on the fly - to be honest its a great solution when you have multiple devices in the house including anything from Apple which refuses to work with any media type unless its locally stored, the daughter has her entire movie collection available in HD quality on her Ipad - which you simply couldn't do with a 16GB of storage plus I don't have to fanny about with the dire piece of software that is iTunes...it's also good for out and about as I can stream any of my movies/TV shows to my phone on 3/4G or wifi when I am staying away overnight as well as share the server to my relatives if they want - brother for example uses it to watch streamed iPlayer while in Qatar. Got my old Q6600 CPU and then a 8 port SAS card for storage in there and it has never struggled hosting a couple of streams while doing all of its other server tasks too - Sickbeard, SabNZBD, Blue Iris (CCTV software) and backups for the other PCs in the house
Well aware of XBMC as used to use it on (of all the things) an Xbox original many moons ago and also run it for a little while on my HTPC we used to use before going back to a sat box and the Roku/Plex solution. I really liked it but the Xbox got long in the tooth when HD stuff started to become the norm for us after buying a plasma. I do like the plugin methods too
PC based - I wouldn't bother again, it really adds nothing unless you want to be able to run games and the like on your TV. Setting up all of it is fun, but became a bit of a chore when the hard disk eventually failed, never managed to get everything working exactly the same again - power saving, surround sound to my amp, PVR side of things - just gave up and repurposed it as my server and sold off the extra hardware.
#33
leeparsons
perhaps a bit coin rig
you are joking, right?
#34
I too had the original XBMC on Xbox-1 - I bought the xbox1 just for that actually, rarely if ever gamed on it (I have a 360 that was given to me but I've never used it, am a PC gamer myself). The more contemporary PC builds are able to do things more reliably like handle/decode some external sources; I bought a quad-core Android key for this but the mob who make the video chipset in it are being prongs about releasing proper support for it and XBMC hasn't been able to be properly updated for it as a result; a real shame because it's a real performer, 2gig of ram and all but largely useless for anything above standard def as it's all decoding in software using what appears to be a single core. I'm a few months off that decision, I could technically use the Pi as an XBMC until then; my big problem is finding a remote control solution that I like (much prefer RF).
#35
davocc
I too had the original XBMC on Xbox-1 - I bought the xbox1 just for that actually, rarely if ever gamed on it (I have a 360 that was given to me but I've never used it, am a PC gamer myself). The more contemporary PC builds are able to do things more reliably like handle/decode some external sources; I bought a quad-core Android key for this but the mob who make the video chipset in it are being prongs about releasing proper support for it and XBMC hasn't been able to be properly updated for it as a result; a real shame because it's a real performer, 2gig of ram and all but largely useless for anything above standard def as it's all decoding in software using what appears to be a single core. I'm a few months off that decision, I could technically use the Pi as an XBMC until then; my big problem is finding a remote control solution that I like (much prefer RF).

Can't you use the PI as a RF "gateway" ? Thinking something like a tablet or phone which connects to the PI via Wifi and then that can be used to send switching signals via IR or using the GPIO stuff? Seems to be plenty of options from a quick search - but I don't really know the technology that well as we just use a Harmony remote for most things and can tell Plex to play on the iPad or Roku from mobile or tablet devices as required.
#36
lolyehright
ShortChange
Wouldn't mind having a play with one of these.

:-)

Yeah! Plug in stuff and listen to them go whhhhhhuurrrrr.

Epic excitement on a monumental scale.

...Only the Pi uses passive cooling so not so much "whhhhhhuurrrrr" as " ".
#37
Gone up to £29.00 now :(
#38
davocc
bobbler


In my experience it was slow and laggy, but then I had the original PI as was one of the lucky one's to get one from first release batch from CPC (in fact I got sent two for some reason...) . I am sure things have moved on greatly from software point of view as well as operating system support but I just found it painful to use at that time and was bought for the sole use of XBMC or other media playback system. I also had a terrible amount of noise on the sound output using HDMI at the time but believe this may have been down to USB power supply being two low I found out after selling them both.

Bobbler - I started with the original Model B and found the same at first however the optimisation work done for XBMC, particularly with the latest releases of Raspbmc is quite extraordinary. It went from laggy and jittery playback of MP4 files to pretty much liquid smooth, right now my original B system is playing a 720p video sourced from the network (standard ethernet) and I'm running an SSH session with HTOP showing active CPU load of less than 28% and about 73-74mb of memory used; I'd recommend giving it another try with the new releases, it's very surprising.

That's a similar experience to me.

I have an original Model B and the latest stable release of RaspBMC, connected to remote servers via homeplugs.

Running smooth enough for me and that's 720p and 1080p with DTS audio :)
#39
Anyone know if this would be possible........an RPi connected via HDMI to a Sky box then sending the signal to another RPi connected to another tv or phone/tablet in the house or anywhere in the world for that matter? I know this is effectively what Squeezebox does and I'm sure Sky wouldn't exactly approve.
I don't want Sky multi room but on occasions I do want to stream something and I know Sky Go does this but this would be able to stream recorded progs rather than just live.
I'm not sure if OpenElec or RaspBMC could potentially do this. Effectively it would be using the Sky box as a NAS but with no control just simply receiving the input and then sending that over the internet/LAN.

Thanks
#40
Jimmyboy
Anyone know if this would be possible........an RPi connected via HDMI to a Sky box then sending the signal to another RPi connected to another tv or phone/tablet in the house or anywhere in the world for that matter? I know this is effectively what Squeezebox does and I'm sure Sky wouldn't exactly approve.
I don't want Sky multi room but on occasions I do want to stream something and I know Sky Go does this but this would be able to stream recorded progs rather than just live.
I'm not sure if OpenElec or RaspBMC could potentially do this. Effectively it would be using the Sky box as a NAS but with no control just simply receiving the input and then sending that over the internet/LAN.

Thanks

The problem is going to be the capture of the image stream and transmission - decompression is one thing but I suspect you'd need hardware to capture the stream (i.e. proper hardware compression in the capture device) and that would then have to be picked up and sent by the pi; the device would have to be workable with the OS with drivers, etc. It may be easier and/or cheaper to get a transmitter arrangement going. Also there are complications with taking in an HDMI source due to the HDCP (afaik); one mob were using it as an input stream for producing boblight (ambilight) backlighting and they converted the signal to analogue then brought that in with a basic video capture (analogue to USB) device that is better supported by the OS (older, established hardware). Of course for that purpose resolution isn't as important; an example is this implementation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRDAzJrfZiM

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