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Refurb MacBook Pro - £699.00 @ Apple - Poss 3.03% TCB too, bringing it down to a (possible) £677.82!

£699.00 @ Apple
Right, tin hat on, i'm braced to get well and truly shot down in flames. Prepared to take on board the views of Mac snobs and haters alike. I have no idea whether this is a great machine, all I d… Read More
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Right, tin hat on, i'm braced to get well and truly shot down in flames. Prepared to take on board the views of Mac snobs and haters alike.

I have no idea whether this is a great machine, all I do know is that it is a cheap price for this particular product (I think!), so here goes...

Refurbished MacBook Pro 2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Originally released mid 2009
13.3-inch LED-backlit glossy widescreen display
2GB memory
160GB hard drive
8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
SD card slot
Built-in 7-hour battery
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
Illuminated keyboard
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#1
You are better off getting the one thats just been phased out... specs on this one aren't so good for the price
#2
You will be better of buying this unless you are a fanboy

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-pavilion-dv6-3141ea-quadcore-6gb-laptop-489-150-tradein-339-after-trade-save/890818

Better processor, graphics, hard drive, ram, fingerprint,
#3
its a good deal if you are looking for a macbook. i'm no fanboy but I do have a macbook, and i prefer it to windows
#4
Old processor in this now though the new ones come with intel i5 much better
1 Like #5
ashok
You will be better of buying this unless you are a fanboy

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-pavilion-dv6-3141ea-quadcore-6gb-laptop-489-150-tradein-339-after-trade-save/890818


Better processor, graphics, hard drive, ram, fingerprint,

What a load of rubbish. The products do not compare.
#6
ashok
You will be better of buying this unless you are a fanboy

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-pavilion-dv6-3141ea-quadcore-6gb-laptop-489-150-tradein-339-after-trade-save/890818


Better processor, graphics, hard drive, ram, fingerprint,


I've never been keen on HP. Had 2 in the past and they have always been too slow. My NC10 suits me lol, plus the screen is bigger on the HP and the battery life is only 2-3hrs.

Edited By: Foxy102 on Mar 05, 2011 09:46
2 Likes #7
Hp laptops are rubbish have had three and all went wrong within two years
#8
top machine at a top price once you go mac you will NEVER go back, took several trips to my local apple store before taking the plunge but so glad i did...
1 Like #9
ashtad
Old processor in this now though the new ones come with intel i5 much better

The reason it has a Core 2 Duo rather than an i3/i5 etc is for the Nvidea graphics, which are faster than the Intel graphics on the new models. (Intel won't give Nvidea a licence for the newer processors) So you may get a faster processor on the new models (25 to 50% faster) but the graphics on the old models are about 25% faster than the new models. Check out a few benchmarks if you want the full details.
#10
There are reasons that Mac's are more expensive, the bulk of them being superiority.

Yes, Windows machines are cheaper, but the Mac is better. The spec inside the Mac is optimised for THAT particular machine, not thrown together with cheap chips to keep the cost down. All Mac related moaning tends to be related to cost, and not performance. In terms of Spec, the processors etc in a Mac perform better than PC equivalent as they are optimised for that machine, so processor's on Windows might have more Ghz, but the machine isn't better. I have to slum it with PC everyday in my job, and its only after using a Mac regularly that you see how much better it is.

For this price, this is a good deal, heat added.
#11
ashok
You will be better of buying this unless you are a fanboy

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-pavilion-dv6-3141ea-quadcore-6gb-laptop-489-150-tradein-339-after-trade-save/890818


Better processor, graphics, hard drive, ram, fingerprint,


I think most of the people who are critics of mac just hate the name, for no reason! - they doesnt seem to have ever used a mac machine. You are not just paying for the the hardware, its the overall performance and reliability you get from a mac which is significantly better than a similar spec windows machine.. and ofcourse, you have to pay a little extra for the uniqueness of the mac OSX ;)
#12
voted hot
Good price not bad spec for a mac but some utter nobbish comments from a few mac fanboys!
1 Like #13
Always amuses me that when people post anything apple they issue warnings and comments about so called 'mac-haters' posting their remarks about the item in question, in this thread it's in the title!

The whole point of this site is for people to post their views on whether an item is a good buy at good value or not, when a pc system is posted no one gets uptight and defensive about any negative comments made about the PC, but if you are brave enough to suggest that an apple product is not wonderful you are branded as a 'mac-hater' who should be burnt at the stake! oO
#14
nilrem
Always amuses me that when people post anything apple they issue warnings and comments about so called 'mac-haters' posting their remarks about the item in question, in this thread it's in the title!The whole point of this site is for people to post their views on whether an item is a good buy at good value or not, when a pc system is posted no one gets uptight and defensive about any negative comments made about the PC, but if you are brave enough to suggest that an apple product is not wonderful you are branded as a 'mac-hater' who should be burnt at the stake! oO

Burn them, Burn them muhahaha :D

Edited By: aceshigh on Mar 05, 2011 10:57
1 Like #15
moko84
There are reasons that Mac's are more expensive, the bulk of them being superiority.Yes, Windows machines are cheaper, but the Mac is better. The spec inside the Mac is optimised for THAT particular machine, not thrown together with cheap chips to keep the cost down. All Mac related moaning tends to be related to cost, and not performance. In terms of Spec, the processors etc in a Mac perform better than PC equivalent as they are optimised for that machine, so processor's on Windows might have more Ghz, but the machine isn't better. I have to slum it with PC everyday in my job, and its only after using a Mac regularly that you see how much better it is.For this price, this is a good deal, heat added.

...indoctrinated
#16
Someone get the matches.
1 Like #17
moko84
There are reasons that Mac's are more expensive, the bulk of them being superiority.

Yes, Windows machines are cheaper, but the Mac is better. The spec inside the Mac is optimised for THAT particular machine, not thrown together with cheap chips to keep the cost down. All Mac related moaning tends to be related to cost, and not performance. In terms of Spec, the processors etc in a Mac perform better than PC equivalent as they are optimised for that machine, so processor's on Windows might have more Ghz, but the machine isn't better. I have to slum it with PC everyday in my job, and its only after using a Mac regularly that you see how much better it is.

For this price, this is a good deal, heat added.



Although being myself a mac user, I have to disagree on some points, specially the price tag justification. Mac goods are definitely overpriced for their specs and, despite the valid argument of Mac OS being highly optimized for the hardware sold, it is difficult to justify the high price difference with current Windows PC config just because of OSX.
#18
ashtad
Hp laptops are rubbish have had three and all went wrong within two years


i have never had an issue my Nx6325. It isnt exactly Mac Book quick but its been VERY reliable for daily use

Edited By: Fox basher on Mar 05, 2011 11:13
#19
no, the macbook is still a better buy, much longer term bang for buck for a good machine!

ashok
You will be better of buying this unless you are a fanboy

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-pavilion-dv6-3141ea-quadcore-6gb-laptop-489-150-tradein-339-after-trade-save/890818


Better processor, graphics, hard drive, ram, fingerprint,
#20
gigix
moko84
There are reasons that Mac's are more expensive, the bulk of them being superiority.

Yes, Windows machines are cheaper, but the Mac is better. The spec inside the Mac is optimised for THAT particular machine, not thrown together with cheap chips to keep the cost down. All Mac related moaning tends to be related to cost, and not performance. In terms of Spec, the processors etc in a Mac perform better than PC equivalent as they are optimised for that machine, so processor's on Windows might have more Ghz, but the machine isn't better. I have to slum it with PC everyday in my job, and its only after using a Mac regularly that you see how much better it is.

For this price, this is a good deal, heat added.



Although being myself a mac user, I have to disagree on some points, specially the price tag justification. Mac goods are definitely overpriced for their specs and, despite the valid argument of Mac OS being highly optimized for the hardware sold, it is difficult to justify the high price difference with current Windows PC config just because of OSX.


I disagree, as basically how to OS runs is everything! It is the root of everything you do with a pc or mac. This is apples success story in all its products. Get that right (as they have done), and innovate, and the products sell themselves.
#21
Cold - i just bought the 2010 macbook pro 2.4ghz dedicated graphics refurbed from Dixons using th hardware10 code + TCB at 3% which tracked immediately for £675 so a newer machine for the same money is a better deal IMO

linkipoos http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/apple-macbook-pro-mc374b-a-refurbished-laptop-06773982-pdt.html

Edited By: Simondu2009 on Mar 05, 2011 11:21
#22
ashok
You will be better of buying this unless you are a fanboy

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-pavilion-dv6-3141ea-quadcore-6gb-laptop-489-150-tradein-339-after-trade-save/890818


Better processor, graphics, hard drive, ram, fingerprint,


Congratulations sir you are a credit to the human race.

That laptop has a larger screen and an AMD processor (you tend to pay more for portability/intel processors in the Windows world too), more plastic than MJ in his heyday, and is intended as a desktop replacement not a portable laptop.
#23
People seem to forget that the resale value on macs is really good. Buy a windows laptop, open the box and you've lost half your value.

Edited By: aceshigh on Mar 05, 2011 11:54: typo
#24
ggibson
gigix
moko84
There are reasons that Mac's are more expensive, the bulk of them being superiority.

Yes, Windows machines are cheaper, but the Mac is better. The spec inside the Mac is optimised for THAT particular machine, not thrown together with cheap chips to keep the cost down. All Mac related moaning tends to be related to cost, and not performance. In terms of Spec, the processors etc in a Mac perform better than PC equivalent as they are optimised for that machine, so processor's on Windows might have more Ghz, but the machine isn't better. I have to slum it with PC everyday in my job, and its only after using a Mac regularly that you see how much better it is.

For this price, this is a good deal, heat added.



Although being myself a mac user, I have to disagree on some points, specially the price tag justification. Mac goods are definitely overpriced for their specs and, despite the valid argument of Mac OS being highly optimized for the hardware sold, it is difficult to justify the high price difference with current Windows PC config just because of OSX.


I disagree, as basically how to OS runs is everything! It is the root of everything you do with a pc or mac. This is apples success story in all its products. Get that right (as they have done), and innovate, and the products sell themselves.


Still does not justify the £1000+ one used to pay for a MBP 13'' featuring a C2D, when the Core i3/5 were already around on Windows machines...

I don't deny the added value of OSX on the performance (just install Ubuntu on a MBP and compare) but come on...Apple's success story is and will remain based on its high profitability strategy together with a very well worked out communication.
#25
aceshigh
Peolpe seem to forget that the resale value on macs is really good. Buy a windows laptop, open the box and you've lost half your value.


This is a good point, I bought a mid 2009 macbook pro with 3 year applecare from the education store for £850 or so, sold it earlier this year for £725 so it only cost me £125. My sister bought a HP envy for £900 and sold it for £500.
#26
Simondu2009
Cold - i just bought the 2010 macbook pro 2.4ghz dedicated graphics refurbed from Dixons using th hardware10 code + TCB at 3% which tracked immediately for £675 so a newer machine for the same money is a better deal IMO

linkipoos http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/apple-macbook-pro-mc374b-a-refurbished-laptop-06773982-pdt.html


Nice deal.
#27
Simondu2009
Cold - i just bought the 2010 macbook pro 2.4ghz dedicated graphics refurbed from Dixons using th hardware10 code + TCB at 3% which tracked immediately for £675 so a newer machine for the same money is a better deal IMO

linkipoos http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/apple-macbook-pro-mc374b-a-refurbished-laptop-06773982-pdt.html


Anyone back up this comment? It doesn't come with AppleCare - does that matter?

I'd like to buy one of these today if I can - would love a second opinion on the differences between the two suggested.

Domo
#28
people seem to overlook the useability of a macbook, nevermind OSX. The way the trackpad integrates with OSX and even the keyboard quality all contribute to a machine that while I'd agree is expensive, is a pleasure to use. This site doesn't really suit deals on macs because the people on here will be looking for the very best deals on products and will be comparing to other laptops. The thing is, macbooks are not aimed at the lower end of the market so people will always deem them expensive even when a good deal comes up.

Personally I would take the higher education discount of 15% over this deal on something newer with the possibility of a free printer and 3 year warranty. They didn't even request proof when I ordered mine, although I am a student for the record.
#29
Domokun
Simondu2009
Cold - i just bought the 2010 macbook pro 2.4ghz dedicated graphics refurbed from Dixons using th hardware10 code + TCB at 3% which tracked immediately for £675 so a newer machine for the same money is a better deal IMOlinkipooshttp://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/apple-macbook-pro-mc374b-a-refurbished-laptop-06773982-pdt.html
Anyone back up this comment? It doesn't come with AppleCare - does that matter? I'd like to buy one of these today if I can - would love a second opinion on the differences between the two suggested.Domo

You get 1 year warranty as standard. For £675 it is a good deal for last years model. I would be tempted myself but I just bought myself the new one.
2 Likes #30
moko84
There are reasons that Mac's are more expensive, the bulk of them being superiority.

Yes, Windows machines are cheaper, but the Mac is better. The spec inside the Mac is optimised for THAT particular machine, not thrown together with cheap chips to keep the cost down. All Mac related moaning tends to be related to cost, and not performance. In terms of Spec, the processors etc in a Mac perform better than PC equivalent as they are optimised for that machine, so processor's on Windows might have more Ghz, but the machine isn't better. I have to slum it with PC everyday in my job, and its only after using a Mac regularly that you see how much better it is.

For this price, this is a good deal, heat added.

Thats why manufacturers create drivers and software for windows, so the laptop is optimised for windows, im sick of apple fanboys justifying paying twice the price for twice as rubbish hardware with utter tosh like this.,
#31
I switched to MacBooks a few years ago, and I'm now on my second one. Sold the first one (a 17" MacBook Pro) last year only because I wanted something smaller and got a very good price for it. I'm now using a 13.3" MacBook Pro (last year's model) and would never go back to a Windows laptop. When people complain about the price of MacBooks, they don't compare like-for-like. When I was shopping for my current laptop, I did consider Windows alternatives. But, if you actually care about issues like ergonomics, weight, build quality and reliability, instead of simply bottom-line price per CPU cycle, you will find that "equivalent" Windows laptops can often cost even more!

Anyway, that's my 2c :p
#32
Just for the moaners that Mac never comes value for money cos the specs always outdated.

I have played around with this same macbook which my wife has. I installed Windows 7 ult using bootcamp. The Mac OS seems to work fabulous - handling all the tasks and the temp keeps so low and infact the fan hardly/barely kicks on. When I tried to use the Windows 7 in it, after a while it gets considerably hot by doing nothing. The fans came on at new max speed which I never new existed (cos they never run so hiugh in MacOS). So you see Mac OS really doesnt need such high power to do the job which Windows machine needs. I even played NFS Carbon on both OS's and saw the difference.

Maybe thats why all the high end professional graphic users in the industry tend to use Mac.
#33
lol.... agolding.. "macenvy boy"
3 Likes #34
Ehhh for the same price i got a dell Studio 15 with Core I7 processor, 1GB Graphics, 6GB of 1333mhz RAM, Blu-Ray and 500GB HDD.

Is anyone seriously trying to justify £700 for a crappy Core 2 Duo? Seriously I wouldnt buy a core Core 2 machine if it was £200 never mind £700!

You buy a mac because you think your cool and a mac is a 'cool' thing to have. They are usually aimed towards someone who has no idea about computers and goes more for aesthetic aspects than performance aspects. I actually have an old Dell laptop i bought three years ago sitting in a cupboard gathering dust that has a 2.6Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4GB Ram and 512MB Graphics Card and I don't use it anymore cuz it's not fast enough to do what I need it for.

You really have to admire Apples genius marketing! Only Steve Jobs can take a bunch of outdated PC components, throw them into a machine, slap an apple tag on it and convince people its the best thing since sliced bread and its worth paying twice the price of the latest high spec laptop for. This is the equivalent of me splashing the cash on a top of the range Aston Martin DB9 for £120k and Steve Jobs coming along taking all the old parts out of a DB7, throwing them into a chassis of his, slapping an Apple logo on it and selling it as the latest supercar for £240k and then someone who has bought one telling me it's better than my new DB9 because it was designed by Apple.

I absolutely love Steve Jobs, hes a genius!

Edited By: Forbez on Mar 05, 2011 12:51: needed to **** fanboys more
suspended#35
Macbooks are far better than laptops.
Id have one, but they're ,just ludicrously expensive. Hot from me though.
#36
Forbez
Ehhh for the same price i got a dell Studio 15 with Core I7 processor, 1GB Graphics, 6GB of 1333mhz RAM, Blu-Ray and 500GB HDD.

Is anyone seriously trying to justify £700 for a crappy Core 2 Duo? Seriously I wouldnt buy a core Core 2 machine if it was £200 never mind £700!

You buy a mac because you think your cool and a mac is a 'cool' thing to have. They are usually aimed towards someone who has no idea about computers and goes more for aesthetic aspects than performance aspects. I actually have an old Dell laptop i bought three years ago sitting in a cupboard gathering dust that has a 2.6Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4GB Ram and 512MB Graphics Card and I don't use it anymore cuz it's not fast enough to do what I need it for.


What are you doing that requires so much power ? :)
#37
ashok
You will be better of buying this unless you are a fanboyhttp://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-pavilion-dv6-3141ea-quadcore-6gb-laptop-489-150-tradein-339-after-trade-save/890818Better processor, graphics, hard drive, ram, fingerprint,

It's not a MAC BOOK PRO , Right ?
#38
People that are comparing this to windows laptops, can you come up with one the same screen size or less. As 15" etc is no where near as portable as 13".
#39
Domokun
Simondu2009
Cold - i just bought the 2010 macbook pro 2.4ghz dedicated graphics refurbed from Dixons using th hardware10 code + TCB at 3% which tracked immediately for £675 so a newer machine for the same money is a better deal IMO

linkipoos http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/apple-macbook-pro-mc374b-a-refurbished-laptop-06773982-pdt.html


Anyone back up this comment? It doesn't come with AppleCare - does that matter?

I'd like to buy one of these today if I can - would love a second opinion on the differences between the two suggested.

Domo


True you can't get apple care on these, but i think that is overpriced anyway - i bought a refurbed macbook from apple 3 years ago, and the keyboard plastic cracked after 18 months, but that was considered a manufacturing defect and replaced FOC by an Apple genius in store outside of warranty.

proof of order confirmation -

Small item(s) (Delivered on 7 March 2011)
Delivery method: Small Items - Specified Slot
Quantity Product code Product price Total
- 1 024770 £ 749.99 £ 749.99
Order totals
Product costs (inc. services) £ 749.99
Delivery costs free
Hardware10 £ -75.00
Total cost £ 674.99
(inc. VAT of) £ 112.50
suspended#40
Forbez
Is anyone seriously trying to justify £700 for a crappy Core 2 Duo? Seriously I wouldnt buy a core Core 2 machine if it was £200 never mind £700! .


On the one hand, you're mocking people who buy a mac, then harping on about a quad laptop.
Its all about style and performance.Macs are LIGHT YEARS better in style (thats why Microsoft keep copying the Mac O.S's) and better in handling and performance.
They're overpriced, no doubt about that - BECAUSE PEOPLE PAY IT - and they do it BECAUSE they are so good.
You are buying a quad then boasting. Then criticizing others for doing the same with Macs !
The envy is strong in this one !X)
(and no - I DON'T have a mac)

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