*REFURBISHED* Samsung NC10 10.2" Netbook N270 - £99.99 @ Ebay Currys/PC World Outlet - HotUKDeals
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Taking the netbook crown from the Acer Aspire One in 2009 Samsung have learnt from their Acer's mistakes and the NC10 has potential for 2Gb of RAM.

Atoms processors are little changed from their release in 2008, the exception being the dual core machines costing around twice as much as this one.

You get a stonking 1.3MP web cam and bluetooth as standard. The Aspire One had a respectable VGA, 0.3MP one.

Manufacturer refurbished has meant like new in my experience, my Aspire one is still going strong with no blemishes whatsoever and was actually a returned refurbished unit from dabs.

While 2Gb goes a long way to ensuring the netbook remains upgradable to the latest software, if you'd prefer the most recent Windows 7 then you should look at spending a bit more, but for lightweight computing why bother with Win7 when a number of independent developers are still catering for the vastly inferior (to WinXP) Windows 98.
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#1
"Seller refurbished - WITH 3 MONTH CURRYS/PC WORLD OUTLET WARRANTY”

This is the older generation with the power sapping 945GSE chipset but at least it has a 6 cell battery.

Edited By: Agharta on Apr 01, 2011 00:41
#2
zaphodbb
These atoms are streets ahead of celeron netbooks.

They are worse in all the reviews that I’ve seen; what are you basing your claim on?
#3
I have owned an 701SD which had the Celeron, it would lag and freeze. Multi threading is a must in this day and age.

Yes, it is using the higher power 945 chipset but this was meant for more powerful laptops and offers better graphics performance at a significant cost to battery life which given this is refurbished won't be expected to be as new. I don't actually take mine out much and appreciate having redundant atoms in the process technology to fall back on should any get carried away in the current or something.

It also has integrated bluetooth which I have always struggled to integrate as a plug in USB module.

Just saw a new ebay deal at £149 from zavvi outlet for an atom N4xx based netbook, which didn't specify any bluetooth integration. I believe the Aspire one has a second multi card reader in place of the bluetooth module. Had mine open today to try and solder a USB stick which had been removed from its case. Unfortunately my soldering iron was the proverbial square peg for tiny round holes.

Edited By: zaphodbb on Apr 01, 2011 01:09
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zaphodbb
I have owned an 701SD which had the Celeron, it would lag and freeze.

But that had an incredibly old and slow Celeron 353 (90nm, 900MHz) that you don’t see in 10” Netbooks so it’s not a realistic comparison.
If you compare a Celeron of the same generation as this Atom it will easily beat it.

zaphodbb
Multi threading is a must in this day and age.

Hyper-threading is useful but it can’t mask the limitations of the Atom. A higher performing CPU without it is preferable; the benchmarks don’t lie (most of the time).
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You should really update the title and description to show that is refurbished with a short warranty as that completely changes the complexion of the deal.
#6
Refurb added to title. Right you are.

When I was shopping for my netbook the high street was awash with Atom N270s and that particular celeron at the CPW. They were of the same generation in time but the process technology was two steps behind. The process technology of the atom has only just been surpassed by the lates Intel core processors so the atom has been a very long lived edition and what it lacks in optimizations it makes up for in efficiencies. As the old adage goes, less to go wrong (with non-speculative, in-order execution).

I don't put much stock in benchmarks. A properly designed chip will be limited only by its process technology. The atom was two steps ahead of the celeron and is still current (indeed cutting edge in the AMD sphere of cpu's) to this day.
#7
Obviously it would be nice to have all those things, but we are on a power budget here. I am starting to wish I'd listed the new one, but I bought mine refurb, which when done by the manufacturer is like new, to quote someone on here the other day, none of the "third-hand" crap on ebay. I also need bluetooth, and have just bought a hard disk to add to it (or another) so this would suit me at least.
#8
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
#9
A little knowledge? Indeed. I don't mean to start a flame war when you are clearly the veteran of this website. Perhaps we can agree to disagree over benchmarks. I know enough to disregard them, others may be swayed by the big numbers but I know computers are pretty much much of a muchness besides what they can interface with.

Benchmarks attempt to dazzle with numbers and provide little knowledge.


Edited By: zaphodbb on Apr 01, 2011 01:56
#10
I had appreciated your comments but
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

is just cryptic and rude. I have evidenced my claims. You have over generalised your definition of 'generation'. The netbook is actually rather new, it's just the 945 that is of the 65nm generation. The Atom is 45nm and so still cutting edge. It is common to reuse old chipsets because they provide a stable platform for the introduction of new cpu's.

Perhaps I can interest you in a subscription to PCPro?
#11
#12
Think you contradicted yourself there by saying its a "rather new" netbook then posting a review from November 2008. 2.5 years in computer terms is ancient history.

NC10 was a good netbook for its time but probably has been superseded by more powerful, slimmer or more efficient models.
#13
Oh and the ACER Aspire One is not the older version of the SAMSUNG NC10.
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Is this an April Fool's joke?
#15
Mike, I have updated the description based on your constructive criticism.

Rather new is what it says, not absolutely new. 2.5 years is alright for people who don't need to spend a fortune on cutting edge technology. While I said it is, technically, cutting edge I am, technically, contradicting myself. It uses the exact same hardware as the Aspire one with some refinements and improvements, so is a version by a different, ostensibly better, manufacturer. Pedantic proclivities perhaps?

April's fool, :-) very droll.

Edited By: zaphodbb on Apr 01, 2011 11:11: Consolidation
#16
timefortea
Is this an April Fool's joke?

I hope so as the other alternative is too frightening; an aneurism!
#17
Save us from Agharta's dangerously small knowledge.
#18
zaphodbb
Save us from Agharta's dangerously small knowledge.

Well you have an advantage in having two heads. :p
#19
Phew, missed out, feeling that aneurism now! X)
#20
missed out :(
#21
Managed to bag one of these.. Was extremely pleased - until it got delivered and I tried to press the 'right click' - doesn't click. I can just about get it to function by depressing the far right edge of it but there is no clicking action.... Anyone else got theirs yet? Is it all working ok?

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