Reon RLKSM05GU10-30-F GU10 5 Watt LED Energy Saving Bulb, Pack of 10 £23.99 @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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Reon RLKSM05GU10-30-F GU10 5 Watt LED Energy Saving Bulb, Pack of 10
Best price I can see on camels
90% energy cost savings, life expectancy 30,000 hours/ 20 years*
Retrofit for existing GU10 sockets, 2 Year Guarantee
5W (ideal replacement for 50W), 290lm (lumens), Non-dimmable

Instant Full Brightness, Warm White with a 60 Degree Beam Angle
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#1
Good price.
4 Likes #2
They're not very bright for 5W bulbs, should be around 512lm, these are more like 3W LEDs.
Still cheap though.
#3
Great price,just changed my low voltage kitchen lighting which were GU4 to GU10 leds with these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261508147633

Paid a bit more for the leds though :(
#4
Ordered, thanks op
#5
Ordered,thanks

Heat added
#6
looking for an offer on dimmable? any recommendations on decent led GU10 bulbs please?
#7
Are these the ones that are supposed to last a long time?
#8
kashmemon
They're not very bright for 5W bulbs, should be around 512lm, these are more like 3W LEDs.
Still cheap though.

Yeah I wouldn't want to buy anything that clocked in at less than 90 lumens/watt. These don't even beat CFLs in terms of efficiency.
#9
looks like a anti glare lens on them
#10
kashmemon
They're not very bright for 5W bulbs, should be around 512lm, these are more like 3W LEDs.
Still cheap though.


I agree these bulbs will not be very bright at all.

People look at the wattage and think it will be bright you need to look at the luminosity. For 50W equivalent LED you need to look at around 450lm!
#11
You have to laugh at the rated lifespan of these modern "environmentally friendly" lights that are more often than not burnt out very quickly and produce nothing like the light levels you'd expect.

I have to admit I like the idea of a cheaper form of lighting but I went through 5 LED downlighters in the space of about 6 months. Luckily they were under warranty and replaced but even the replacements have lost brightness after several weeks use.

Once they become the same price as a conventional Halogen bulb - which gives superior levels of light (IMNSHO) anyway, I might revisit LED tech as an option.

Even CFL's seem to fail at an alarming rate compared to incandescent bulbs!
#12
I've found you get what you pay for with LED's. I use these which are dearer but you can see these are 350 Lumens over the deals 290 and use .5 less watts.
Still, cheap deal. Heat added!
LedHut often do 20% off and another 20% off via Quidco if anyone is interested.

Edited By: Swarfega on Jul 05, 2014 07:00
#13
lidl sell 370lm GU10 for £2.99. I feel those ate a better deal as they are bright enough for most tasks.
#14
I don't think I've ever seen a genuinely 500+ lumen 5w led gu10, maybe a few of the really expensive ones but the more affordable ones always fall well short when properly tested. I think 370 or so is a good start in terms of real world performance.
#15
Now showing as £59.97.
#16
These aren't great.

I've replaced just about my whole house with LED now. These would be at the low end. Brightness would be more like a 35w bulb rather than a 50w bulb.

In terms of life length they do have a 2 year guarantee with them which is good if you can chase them down. I had some ebay ones which failed after 6 months (12 month guarantee) and the seller wouldn't even respond.

I've had a lot fail after about a year. Normally the LEDs are fine (which most companies say are the bit that will last 30,000 hours etc) - it is the driver circuit that fails. Normally blown capacitors. If you're handy with a soldering iron you can buy branded caps for about 40p each to repair the bulbs and they appear to last properly once repaired!

I'm happy with the LED lighting that I now have and don't worry as much about leaving lights on.

My kitchen is now 54w compared to 300w.
My living room is now 27w compared to 210w.
My bedroom is now 21w compared to 270w.
Bedroom 2 is now 12w compared to 105w.
Bedroom 3 is now 12w compared to 200w.
Bedroom 4 is now 8w compared to 105w.
Conservatory is now 22w compared to 200w.
Toilet is now 6w compared to 100w.

So for all those lights it is now 162w compared to 1490w before. All the lights left on is now less that the living room was on it's own. I've put them in over the last 3 years. The electric bill hasn't changed much (cost wise) but the usage has decreased.
#17
You're not going to get a good LED for cheap, simple fact. The reason most if these are cheap is because they are Chinese mass manufactured. You are also not just looking for the lm/w output but also the CRI compared to a halogen. That's what makes it a true exact halogen replacement. You want a CRI and R9 value of 95+ to be a direct replacement.
#18
nbuuifx
These aren't great.

I've replaced just about my whole house with LED now. These would be at the low end. Brightness would be more like a 35w bulb rather than a 50w bulb.

In terms of life length they do have a 2 year guarantee with them which is good if you can chase them down. I had some ebay ones which failed after 6 months (12 month guarantee) and the seller wouldn't even respond.

I've had a lot fail after about a year. Normally the LEDs are fine (which most companies say are the bit that will last 30,000 hours etc) - it is the driver circuit that fails. Normally blown capacitors. If you're handy with a soldering iron you can buy branded caps for about 40p each to repair the bulbs and they appear to last properly once repaired!

I'm happy with the LED lighting that I now have and don't worry as much about leaving lights on.

My kitchen is now 54w compared to 300w.
My living room is now 27w compared to 210w.
My bedroom is now 21w compared to 270w.
Bedroom 2 is now 12w compared to 105w.
Bedroom 3 is now 12w compared to 200w.
Bedroom 4 is now 8w compared to 105w.
Conservatory is now 22w compared to 200w.
Toilet is now 6w compared to 100w.

So for all those lights it is now 162w compared to 1490w before. All the lights left on is now less that the living room was on it's own. I've put them in over the last 3 years. The electric bill hasn't changed much (cost wise) but the usage has decreased.
I'm similar to you, we don't have a single traditional bulb fitted in the house. We took advantage of the green deal Cashback last year and spent the £300 of own fitted savings kitting the whole house out.
I've yet to have a single Gu10 replacement fail. Every bulb is either Philips, Osram or Feit(Costco).

We did get some of those little halogen replacements that look like tear drops. 2 have failed after they came from LED hut, only claimed 1 replacement so far and it seems better built.

At present cheap LED buibs are a false economy, buy the right ones and cash save long term.
#19
Oneday77
nbuuifx
These aren't great.

I've replaced just about my whole house with LED now. These would be at the low end. Brightness would be more like a 35w bulb rather than a 50w bulb.

In terms of life length they do have a 2 year guarantee with them which is good if you can chase them down. I had some ebay ones which failed after 6 months (12 month guarantee) and the seller wouldn't even respond.

I've had a lot fail after about a year. Normally the LEDs are fine (which most companies say are the bit that will last 30,000 hours etc) - it is the driver circuit that fails. Normally blown capacitors. If you're handy with a soldering iron you can buy branded caps for about 40p each to repair the bulbs and they appear to last properly once repaired!

I'm happy with the LED lighting that I now have and don't worry as much about leaving lights on.

My kitchen is now 54w compared to 300w.
My living room is now 27w compared to 210w.
My bedroom is now 21w compared to 270w.
Bedroom 2 is now 12w compared to 105w.
Bedroom 3 is now 12w compared to 200w.
Bedroom 4 is now 8w compared to 105w.
Conservatory is now 22w compared to 200w.
Toilet is now 6w compared to 100w.

So for all those lights it is now 162w compared to 1490w before. All the lights left on is now less that the living room was on it's own. I've put them in over the last 3 years. The electric bill hasn't changed much (cost wise) but the usage has decreased.
I'm similar to you, we don't have a single traditional bulb fitted in the house. We took advantage of the green deal Cashback last year and spent the £300 of own fitted savings kitting the whole house out.
I've yet to have a single Gu10 replacement fail. Every bulb is either Philips, Osram or Feit(Costco).

We did get some of those little halogen replacements that look like tear drops. 2 have failed after they came from LED hut, only claimed 1 replacement so far and it seems better built.

At present cheap LED buibs are a false economy, buy the right ones and cash save long term.

Yep

Cheap ones with replaced capacitors are good though :)
#20
nbuuifx


Yep

Cheap ones with replaced capacitors are good though :)

Is that easy to do - wouldn't mind trying that, just for the fun of it?
3 Likes #21
gtd65
nbuuifx


Yep

Cheap ones with replaced capacitors are good though :)

Is that easy to do - wouldn't mind trying that, just for the fun of it?

Depends on the bulb, I've had some that are glued together and you have to destroy the bulb to get to them. Others simply twist apart or some have 3 screws from the front.

The twist apart ones are my favourite, once apart it is just a case of looking for a bulging cap, desolder the 2 legs then put the replacement in. Then reassemble the bulbs. The first kitchen one failed just after 12 months, the rest all failed over the next 6 months. I would have ended up with all 6 being useless. I've repaired them all though and they've continued perfectly.
#22
290 Lumens on a 60 degree spread of light is NOT equivalent to a 50W Halogen.

On a 60 degree spread, the lumens would need to be 400-500 lumen to offer equivalent light.

These would be about a 35W/40W replacement. Good price though, as long as they last, which ultimately you will not know until you have had them a while. A good quality LED should run for approx 35,000 hours.

Also, 5W on this lumens is not particularly efficient, I suspect old technology is being used, hence the lower price. With LED's, it is very much a case of you get what you pay for.
#23
Also worth noting:

Usually dispatched within 2 - 5 weeks.

So Amazon don't actually hold any stock at the moment then, and considering the Marketplace seller is selling these for double that price, I wouldn't be entirely convinced you would ever get them.
#24
listerdude
lidl sell 370lm GU10 for £2.99. I feel those ate a better deal as they are bright enough for most tasks.

D'ya if the lidl one's dimmable? Ta
#25
gtd65
You have to laugh at the rated lifespan of these modern "environmentally friendly" lights that are more often than not burnt out very quickly and produce nothing like the light levels you'd expect.

I have to admit I like the idea of a cheaper form of lighting but I went through 5 LED downlighters in the space of about 6 months. Luckily they were under warranty and replaced but even the replacements have lost brightness after several weeks use.

Once they become the same price as a conventional Halogen bulb - which gives superior levels of light (IMNSHO) anyway, I might revisit LED tech as an option.

Even CFL's seem to fail at an alarming rate compared to incandescent bulbs!

Some of my oldest LEDs are well over 5 years old (I think probably closer to 7) and at a rough estimate I'd say could have easily managed 10000 hours as it's triggered by PIR, so is on a lot during the day. When I replaced all your lamps with energy efficient lamps (LED or CFL) I found a measurable drop in the electricity bills for my house, and if you do the maths, you can often save the cost within a matter of months.

Like anyone else who's fitted early LEDs, I've had failures, mostly cheap Chinese imports. But what seems to be consistent, the more efficient, the better they last, in a 3W lamp that produces the same as a 5W lamp, you're going to be driving the whole circuit with a much lower temperature which is bound to be better. Across my whole house, I've had maybe 10% fail within the first year, but after that first year they seem to last indefinitely, with the exception of a single GU10 which fell apart, after 4.5 years continuous use, presumably heat destroyed the screw holes holding it together, since it wasn't in a position it could be touched, some araldite should fix that.

mike
#26
harris007uk
You're not going to get a good LED for cheap, simple fact. The reason most if these are cheap is because they are Chinese mass manufactured. You are also not just looking for the lm/w output but also the CRI compared to a halogen. That's what makes it a true exact halogen replacement. You want a CRI and R9 value of 95+ to be a direct replacement.
Just about everything at the cheaper end of the market is Chinese and everything is mass manufactured. You pays your money......
#27
gtd65
You have to laugh at the rated lifespan of these modern "environmentally friendly" lights that are more often than not burnt out very quickly and produce nothing like the light levels you'd expect.

I have to admit I like the idea of a cheaper form of lighting but I went through 5 LED downlighters in the space of about 6 months. Luckily they were under warranty and replaced but even the replacements have lost brightness after several weeks use.

Once they become the same price as a conventional Halogen bulb - which gives superior levels of light (IMNSHO) anyway, I might revisit LED tech as an option.

Even CFL's seem to fail at an alarming rate compared to incandescent bulbs!

you definitely get what you pay for with led. i've installed megaman modo 4.5w leds in my bathroom, bedroom and kitchen. i think they were about £7 each, but they come with a 5 year warranty. they've been in around 18 months, light levels don't seem to have diminished, and i haven't had to replace any.
#28
5 watt though :-(
#29
Home Bargains still have a range of led gu10's available in store but if not you are able to order them for delivery. They work out at £2.99 for warm or cool white.
#30
mjbuckhurst
gtd65
You have to laugh at the rated lifespan of these modern "environmentally friendly" lights that are more often than not burnt out very quickly and produce nothing like the light levels you'd expect.

I have to admit I like the idea of a cheaper form of lighting but I went through 5 LED downlighters in the space of about 6 months. Luckily they were under warranty and replaced but even the replacements have lost brightness after several weeks use.

Once they become the same price as a conventional Halogen bulb - which gives superior levels of light (IMNSHO) anyway, I might revisit LED tech as an option.

Even CFL's seem to fail at an alarming rate compared to incandescent bulbs!

Some of my oldest LEDs are well over 5 years old (I think probably closer to 7) and at a rough estimate I'd say could have easily managed 10000 hours as it's triggered by PIR, so is on a lot during the day. When I replaced all your lamps with energy efficient lamps (LED or CFL) I found a measurable drop in the electricity bills for my house, and if you do the maths, you can often save the cost within a matter of months.

Like anyone else who's fitted early LEDs, I've had failures, mostly cheap Chinese imports. But what seems to be consistent, the more efficient, the better they last, in a 3W lamp that produces the same as a 5W lamp, you're going to be driving the whole circuit with a much lower temperature which is bound to be better. Across my whole house, I've had maybe 10% fail within the first year, but after that first year they seem to last indefinitely, with the exception of a single GU10 which fell apart, after 4.5 years continuous use, presumably heat destroyed the screw holes holding it together, since it wasn't in a position it could be touched, some araldite should fix that.

mike

I have to admit the 60SMD LED GU10 replacements I bought were from China - the first set were simply garbage but looked OK for the first couple of weeks but then dimmed noticeable. when new it was uncomfortable to look up at them. The replacements that were sent out have been better but I still don't think they give off the same light as a 50w halogen.

I'm sure it's like many products - some are good some are not.

In the CFL department all of the bulbs that have blown have been GE and not a cheap option either. Luckily, they are warrantied for 5 to 7 years and they don't quibble about replacement.
#31
RuudBullit


you definitely get what you pay for with led. i've installed megaman modo 4.5w leds in my bathroom, bedroom and kitchen. i think they were about £7 each, but they come with a 5 year warranty. they've been in around 18 months, light levels don't seem to have diminished, and i haven't had to replace any.

I think when I bought the original 60SMD LED GU10's I calculated it would take 6 months to repay the outlay in theory. I'm still not that convinced it's really such a good deal but if they did last as long as advertised on the package, they might make financial sense eventually.

I'm still quite happy to pick up two Halogen GU10 bulbs for a quid and get the exact levels of light that I'm looking for.
1 Like #32
gtd65

I'm still quite happy to pick up two Halogen GU10 bulbs for a quid and get the exact levels of light that I'm looking for.

Yeh, that's inflation for you. Used to be 3 for a £1 in Poundland, now you only get TWO!
#33
i have changed the whole house over and bought from many suppliers. some 3 led gu10 ones failed after 3 months. the 3 led ones tend not to be very bright. the 4 led ones (dimmable) have all been perfect for 18 months now. electricity bills have come right down.

watch your colour temp. we went for the yellow ones. the white ones too harsh
#34
GeorgeJungle
i have changed the whole house over and bought from many suppliers. some 3 led gu10 ones failed after 3 months. the 3 led ones tend not to be very bright. the 4 led ones (dimmable) have all been perfect for 18 months now. electricity bills have come right down.

watch your colour temp. we went for the yellow ones. the white ones too harsh

mind mentioning the brand/location where you got the 4 led ones?
#35
These below are cheaper, significantly brighter (460lm), have a lovely lumnescence that is very similar to Halogen, come in a dimmable option, and i can give my personal recommendation having used around a dozen around my house for the past 3 years with zero problems.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SuperLEDTM-WHITE-BRIGHTEST-REPLACING-HALOGEN/dp/B007Z2FS4O/ref=sr_1_4?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1404824132&sr=1-4&keywords=5050


Edited By: Pasanda on Jul 08, 2014 13:58
#36
Don't think £45 for ten is cheaper, but thanks for the recommendation Pasanda.
1 Like #37
jmcderm1
Don't think £45 for ten is cheaper, but thanks for the recommendation Pasanda.

Yeah, I checked the price when I first saw that comment within a couple of minutes of them posting it and thought exactly the same thing, but thought I may have misinterpreted something so didn't bother disputing it.
#38
Apologies for the confusion. By the time i'd looked at the deal, they were back up in price and more than those that i posted. The OP ones are £60 now.
#39
Pasanda
Apologies for the confusion. By the time i'd looked at the deal, they were back up in price and more than those that i posted. The OP ones are £60 now.
Still £23.99 if you select Amazon as the seller.
#40
30 days after ordering (Saturday 02/08) I received an email stating
We regret to inform you that we have been unable to source the following item:
"Reon RLKSM05GU10-30-F GU10 5 Watt LED Energy Saving Bulb, Pack of 10"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GB7EAHU
Our supplier has informed us that this item is no longer available. This item has now been cancelled from your order # and we can confirm that you have not been charged for it.
Please accept our apologies for any disappointment or inconvenience caused.
You may visit the product detail page(s) above to see if these item(s) are available from other sellers.
To view the current status and the costs associated with your order, please visit Your Account (http://www.amazon.co.uk/your-account).
It no longer appears in my order history.

Edited By: Steve353 on Aug 04, 2014 09:25

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