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It's back! Canyon 'Breakaway' Sale with big discounts on 2017 range - Up to £1200 off

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Canyon have always offered great value (well, not quite as great since the Brexit vote) and now they have some great savings on 60 MTB and Road bikes. Last year they went very quickly in the popular … Read More
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3w, 4d agoFound 3 weeks, 4 days ago
Canyon have always offered great value (well, not quite as great since the Brexit vote) and now they have some great savings on 60 MTB and Road bikes. Last year they went very quickly in the popular sizes so it's worth having a look now as the sale has only just started.

Oh, and in before, 'you can buy a car for that' or 'for that price I'd want an engine'. These are serious bikes for people who enjoy the pastime / sport - not just a form of transport.
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#1
ULTIMATE CF SLX DISC 8.0 - Save £800 @£2999
https://static.canyon.com/img/cache/75/0/820312dd7af5068e481078d4e1f1e.jpg

NEURON AL 9.0 LTD - Save £550 @£3049
https://static.canyon.com/img/cache/9e/8/5fe52fbd68c4aefc08d61c11b9e96.jpg

Edited By: SpamJavelin on Jun 30, 2017 21:00
#2
re exchange rate:- average euro -gbp 2016 was 1.15, today it's 1.14. Don't believe the bs you read in the press or on manufacturers press releases.

Edited By: simmobb2 on Jun 30, 2017 21:01
#3
gorgeous bikes
#4
Oooh, it's a good thing Canyon don't do finance!
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simmobb2
re exchange rate:- average euro -gbp 2016 was 1.15, today it's 1.14. Don't believe the bs you read in the press or on manufacturers press releases.

2 years ago it was 1.45, the day before the referendum it was 1.30. It can't get any worse though!
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Lovely bikes.
#7
CardboardCutout
Oooh, it's a good thing Canyon don't do finance!
Paypal credit my friend
#8
Isn't it Giant frames, chinese components and wheels assembled in Romania or something like that. Hardly German or good value most of the time. As long as people realise its just a badge slap and Canyon are just direct selling bike assemblers.
#9
bonzobanana
Isn't it Giant frames, chinese components and wheels assembled in Romania or something like that. Hardly German or good value most of the time. As long as people realise its just a badge slap and Canyon are just direct selling bike assemblers.


Not a single frame in their range is open mould, all made by them, yes in a Far East factory but everyone does. What's really impressive is that they X-ray every carbon frame and fork to check for defects and air pockets, they bin something like 1 in five units that don't make QC - no one else does that which meant there is a whole load of defective frames kicking about waiting for a bad impact or a funny bump...
#10
sethpistol
Not a single frame in their range is open mould, all made by them, yes in a Far East factory but everyone does. What's really impressive is that they X-ray every carbon frame and fork to check for defects and air pockets, they bin something like 1 in five units that don't make QC - no one else does that which meant there is a whole load of defective frames kicking about waiting for a bad impact or a funny bump...

Pretty sure its been widely reported that Giant make the frames and that whole process would be performed by Giant unless they have changed supplier. The point is it's not their factory although certainly possible they perform their own QC checks although it would seem strange importing the frames that are going to be rejected into Germany seems more likely Giant themselves do that processing at the factory. Not that, that is a criticism as Giant are probably the best frame manufacturer's in the world. You or I could also import Giant frames give ourselves a brand name and claim to be expert frame builders too and charge a huge fee on top. Carbon frames are something like £400 from China through aliexpress and even that is a huge chunk of money over the factory door price.
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bonzobanana
sethpistol
Not a single frame in their range is open mould, all made by them, yes in a Far East factory but everyone does. What's really impressive is that they X-ray every carbon frame and fork to check for defects and air pockets, they bin something like 1 in five units that don't make QC - no one else does that which meant there is a whole load of defective frames kicking about waiting for a bad impact or a funny bump...
Pretty sure its been widely reported that Giant make the frames and that whole process would be performed by Giant unless they have changed supplier. The point is it's not their factory although certainly possible they perform their own QC checks although it would seem strange importing the frames that are going to be rejected into Germany seems more likely Giant themselves do that processing at the factory. Not that, that is a criticism as Giant are probably the best frame manufacturer's in the world. You or I could also import Giant frames give ourselves a brand name and claim to be expert frame builders too and charge a huge fee on top. Carbon frames are something like £400 from China through aliexpress and even that is a huge chunk of money over the factory door price.

I think Canyon still offers the best VFM anywhere in the market - even over 'self-build'. If you compare price to PlanetX (love 'em or hate 'em) Canyon prices stack up well. Compare the ULTIMATE CF SL 9.0 currently available for £1500 with the Viner Maxima RS 4.0 which is the same price (with code). Both have light carbon frames with Ultegra but the Canyon has a much better wheelset and weights 500g less.

Build-your-own with an imported Aliexpress £400 frame, plus Ultegra 6800 groupset then the Mavic Ksyrium Elite WTS wheels will leave you about £100 for bars, stem and saddle - and then you have to put it together, and then the resale value will be pants.

Don't get me wrong, I love putting bikes together but when the sales are on the likes of Canyon, PLanetX and Ribble offer great value compared to the big names (Specialized, Cannondale)


Edited By: SpamJavelin on Jul 04, 2017 08:30
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SpamJavelin
I think Canyon still offers the best VFM anywhere in the market - even over 'self-build'. If you compare price to PlanetX (love 'em or hate 'em) Canyon prices stack up well. Compare the ULTIMATE CF SL 9.0 currently available for £1500 with the Viner Maxima RS 4.0 which is the same price (with code). Both have light carbon frames with Ultegra but the Canyon has a much better wheelset and weights 500g less.Build-your-own with an imported Aliexpress £400 frame, plus Ultegra 6800 groupset then the Mavic Ksyrium Elite WTS wheels will leave you about £100 for bars, stem and saddle - and then you have to put it together, and then the resale value will be pants.Don't get me wrong, I love putting bikes together but when the sales are on the likes of Canyon, PLanetX and Ribble offer great value compared to the big names (Specialized, Cannondale)

With regard the £400 frames that was more in reference to the more high end esoteric carbon framed bikes which Canyon charge £5000 plus for and the markup is much more extreme which is not the same at the budget end of carbon bikes. Fair point about value which is always the case when you direct sell removing local bike shops and wholesalers from having their markup and part of the process. The price to pay for that is in the last year I think 10% of local bike shops have closed in the UK. I'm not a local bike shop user myself I do my own maintenance and would rather buy everything I need as cheaply as possible but it is making cycling less accessible to people who can't do their own maintenance which is a shame.
#13
bonzobanana
sethpistol
Not a single frame in their range is open mould, all made by them, yes in a Far East factory but everyone does. What's really impressive is that they X-ray every carbon frame and fork to check for defects and air pockets, they bin something like 1 in five units that don't make QC - no one else does that which meant there is a whole load of defective frames kicking about waiting for a bad impact or a funny bump...

Pretty sure its been widely reported that Giant make the frames and that whole process would be performed by Giant unless they have changed supplier. The point is it's not their factory although certainly possible they perform their own QC checks although it would seem strange importing the frames that are going to be rejected into Germany seems more likely Giant themselves do that processing at the factory. Not that, that is a criticism as Giant are probably the best frame manufacturer's in the world. You or I could also import Giant frames give ourselves a brand name and claim to be expert frame builders too and charge a huge fee on top. Carbon frames are something like £400 from China through aliexpress and even that is a huge chunk of money over the factory door price.


Widely rumoured is not the same as widely reported. The frames and components are made by Quest carbon, which inrng and bikebiz describe as the 'cream' of carbon manufacture...
#14
sethpistol
Widely rumoured is not the same as widely reported. The frames and components are made by Quest carbon, which inrng and bikebiz describe as the 'cream' of carbon manufacture...

Fair enough I wasn't sure if it was Giant doing both aluminium and carbon or just aluminium frames. Clearly Quest wouldn't be supplying the aluminium frames. Pretty sure you can get Quest composite frames through alibaba and aliexpress and carbon frame manufacture itself is pretty low tech but a large number of man hours per frame. This is an image of Quest composite factory. This is their image but I couldn't help but notice that the blue caps surely meant to contain people's hair and cover the scalp to prevent hair and dry skin getting into the product seem poorly fitted to say the least especially the woman bottom right.

https://images.hotukdeals.com/comments/content/uGm85/31365641.jpg

Edited By: bonzobanana on Jul 04, 2017 16:52:
#15
bonzobanana
Fair enough I wasn't sure if it was Giant doing both aluminium and carbon or just aluminium frames. Clearly Quest wouldn't be supplying the aluminium frames. Pretty sure you can get Quest composite frames through alibaba and aliexpress and carbon frame manufacture itself is pretty low tech but a large number of man hours per frame. This is an image of Quest composite factory. This is their image but I couldn't help but notice that the blue caps surely meant to contain people's hair and cover the scalp to prevent hair and dry skin getting into the product seem poorly fitted to say the least especially the woman bottom right.


Maybe it's best you stick to steel bikes lovingly welded by wizard like bearded men in wooden sheds... this is what factories look like
#16
sethpistol
Maybe it's best you stick to steel bikes lovingly welded by wizard like bearded men in wooden sheds... this is what factories look like

Strange childish comment but yes wouldn't mind a steel bike made by a wizard if available.

https://images.hotukdeals.com/comments/content/8C8vn/31370623.jpg

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