Samsung 2TB F4 HD204UI/Z4 SATA HDD £59.99 + del (free for AVForums, BitTech etc) @ Scan - HotUKDeals
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Info on how to get free delivery at Scan is further down this description.

If the "Go to deal" button doesn't add this drive into your basket at £59.99 (before PnP) then cut'n'paste this link...

https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Shop/AddToBasket.aspx?WebProductId=1426173

These deal is on until just after 1pm Thurs 4th Feb, the price will go up after that time not before.

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http://www.avforums.com/forums/scan_offer.php

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=186923

http://forums.hexus.net/scan-care-hexus/138836-scan2hexus-free-shipping-setup-guide.html

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*** It is recommended to update the firmware on these drives as there is a good risk of losing data on the shipped one ***

Link to firmware on Samsung's forum...

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/faqView.do?b2b_bbs_msg_id=386

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suspended#1
Sounds like a very hot deal to me... have some heat.
#2
thanks OP...great price...managed to order another 4....hopefully it lets them slip through....4 more and my 40TB server will be complete
#3
i knew sub £60 2tb drives wouldn't take long to arrive. this is supposed to be a decent drive although i think with 4k sectors that don't play nicely with XP? maybe someone else knows more about this than me
#4
uni
i knew sub £60 2tb drives wouldn't take long to arrive. this is supposed to be a decent drive although i think with 4k sectors that don't play nicely with XP? maybe someone else knows more about this than me


512 byte sector emulation is built into the firmware so it shouldn't be a problem.
#5
I have one of these F4s but still havent figured what to do with the byte sector issue
2 Likes #6
jouster
thanks OP...great price...managed to order another 4....hopefully it lets them slip through....4 more and my 40TB server will be complete


40TB server! Blimey, that's a lot of pron!!
#7
Not free del. for N. Ireland customers, AV Forums members or not. So cold from me.
2 Likes #8
Just remember that Scan only sell grey import OEM Samsung drives that Samsung won't honor the warranty on directly which is a shame as Samung tunraround faulty HDD's very swiftly. Scan however can take a while to RMA so please bear this in mind as you may wish to consider paying a little more to have your warranty directly via Samsung themselves.

A good 'storage' drive (only 5400RPM) though for the price - if you're lucky to get one that doesn't fail on you within the first month!


Edited By: mumjit on Feb 02, 2011 13:59: .
#9
mickrick
Not free del. for N. Ireland customers, AV Forums members or not. So cold from me.


Not voting for the same reason but hopefully Amazon will reduce their prices to match.
#10
great deal. thats alot of space for the cash. could buy one of these just to backup my pc.
Cant wait till sdxc cards start being this size for such a great price. thats much memory in my phone would be amazing.
#11
mumjit
Just remember that Scan only sell grey import OEM Samsung drives that Samsung won't honor the warranty on directly which is a shame as Samung tunraround faulty HDD's very swiftly. Scan however can take a while to RMA so please bear this in mind as you may wish to consider paying a little more to have your warranty directly via Samsung themselves.

A good 'storage' drive (only 5400RPM) though for the price - if you're lucky to get one that doesn't fail on you within the first month!



Not true, mine are not grey imports
#12
Masai - did you buy it from Scan? - if so then yes it is a grey import!

Scan are my component supplier and openly admit that they are not honored by Samsung's warranty due to it being a grey import that was not intended for the UK market.

Check on the Samsung website yourself if you don't beleive me - it will give you an "Out of Service area" mesage which tells you that the drive has been purchased outside of the UK service region.

Like most things, people only buy these because they are cheap.




Edited By: mumjit on Feb 02, 2011 14:19: .
#13
I buy them because they're good overall value nto because they're cheap, that's factoring in price yes but also reliability and performance too
#14
They are good overall value but you also have to factor in reliability. I buy on average about 100 Samusng HDD's in every month and have to return at least 10 every month due to them failing within the first month of usage. I now buy a mixture of both Samsung HDD's and Western Digital drives and over the past 3 years have only had to return 8 Western Digital drives that have failed. As I say Samsung are cheap and customers are willing to take the punt and see if they get a reliable drive. I'm not knocking Scan or Samsung - I just know if it was my own money and my own PC and my main focus was on reliability rather than price or quietness then I wouldnt not be buying a Samsung drive. Considering these are 'Storage Drives' there's no way in hell with my own personal experience of these drives that I would ever consider using this drive to house 2TB of my own personal data without having it backed up on a more reliable manufacturer of drive.



Edited By: mumjit on Feb 02, 2011 23:12: .
#15
It is correct these drives have a Scan not Samsung warranty- see their website wording on type of warranty- "return to base" as opposed to "direct" (with manufacturer). Some time ago it may have been they did have Samsung warranted drives but not now. Had no idea the failure rate could be so high though!

mumjit would you know who does sell Samsung drives with the manufacturer warranty. When I looked into it I found people like Amazon just referring to their one year warranty or Aria offering 3 yrs with themselves. I assume it's become these grey imports are cheaper for the retailer to buy than the EU versions or there's greater supply.
#16
masai


Not true, mine are not grey imports


Ditto, neither are mine


mumjit
Masai - did you buy it from Scan? - if so then yes it is a grey import!

Scan are my component supplier and openly admit that they are not honored by Samsung's warranty due to it being a grey import that was not intended for the UK market.

Check on the Samsung website yourself if you don't beleive me - it will give you an "Out of Service area" mesage which tells you that the drive has been purchased outside of the UK service region.

Like most things, people only buy these because they are cheap.



As a matter of fact I did, I bought one batch of 4, all 1.5TB F2s and another batch of 2 both F4 2TB and every one checked out OK on Samsung's website.

They must source them from different sources at different times
#17
Antonio1 - Scan have been my component supplier since 1996 and as far as I can recall Samsung drives have always been under warranty via Scan and never directly through Samsung as Scan purchase these drives in bulk from outside the EU and at a far cheaper price than the UK version. Have a 'Google' around and you will see that Samsung have a high failure rate but I'm not bashing them, I just want people to make an informed decision because I see the tail end of data loss each and every day and would always advise not using Samsung as back-up storage drives although that is the purpose that they were 'designed' for. To my left now I already have one of these drives from a shipment last week to go back and we're only on the 2nd of the month. You pay your money and take your choice but for me data storage is worth paying a little bit more for.

I can tell you that Ebuyer, Scan, Micro Direct, Aria, Dabs, Overclockers etc all sell grey-imported OEM drives as it's cheaper for them to do so and that these drives have no warranty through Samsung directly and you at left solely in their hands of the supplier and their RMA systems.

In some cases with OEM HDD's you only have a 1 year warranty where as Samsung usually honor a 3 year warranty. There is no way of knowing whether you're going to get a HDD that Samsung will honor the warranty on unless you can ask the supplier at the point off purchase as it seems horses for courses in some cases and who indeed supplied the supplier with the drive!.

Edited By: mumjit on Feb 02, 2011 15:01
#18
I bought 2 of these from Scan in January.

Both checked OK on the Samsung warranty checker.
#19
http://www.guru3d.com/news/list-of-hardware-failure-rates/

So I looked into it, Hitachi have the worst figures at this point in time. But still 3% is still a very good low failure rate.

Your forgetting you usually never hear a peep from happy customers that have components that just work, and you'll see people with problems (with their hardware, or mental ones too :p) post on multiple sites.
#20
Got 2 1GB drives that were bought from Scan at different times from 1 and 2 years ago and both says 'Out of service area'.
#21
masai
mumjit
Just remember that Scan only sell grey import OEM Samsung drives that Samsung won't honor the warranty on directly which is a shame as Samung tunraround faulty HDD's very swiftly. Scan however can take a while to RMA so please bear this in mind as you may wish to consider paying a little more to have your warranty directly via Samsung themselves.

A good 'storage' drive (only 5400RPM) though for the price - if you're lucky to get one that doesn't fail on you within the first month!



Not true, mine are not grey imports


Its partly true....... I got 3 1.5TB drives from scan 2 are grey, 1 is official.

when i quizzed them they said they source from multiple sources but they apparently honour the 3 years themselves... Whether you believe them.... that is up to you (I chose to) just hope they do not go under.
#22
sokelly
Not voting for the same reason but hopefully Amazon will reduce their prices to match.


Don't bother. I ordered this from Amazon (at least the non-Z4 version), and their packaging was appalling. They put it in the same cardboard packaging that they use for DVDs. Came through the letterbox with a loud 'thud'. Needless to say I returned the drive without even testing it.

Apparently this awful packaging of HDDs is common for Amazon - do a google search. Shame, as they're usually really good.

Edited By: Satan on Feb 02, 2011 18:08
#23
can any one explain this in English please? These are the instructions for the patch and I still am not sure how to do it

To improve this problem, Please use the attached DOS model patch tool.

1. Please unzip attached file to Bootable media (USB,CD, Floppy...etc).
2. Please connect Target HDD to Primary / Mast.
3. Booting the system to DOS mode by bootable media.(which with this F/W flash program).
4. Please run " F4EG ".
5. When FW Flash successfully message display , please Power Off system, to make F/W flash complete.

Thanks
#24
Jeez a lot of people moaning about warranties and failure rates. At the end of the day its all statistics. From 20 HDD's that I have had over the years I have had 2 Western Digitals fail on me, 1 segate, and 1 maxtor, 0 Samsung. That is surprising given how WD's are supposed to be the most reliable out there.

If you have a PC it doesnt matter how cheap or more reliable a certain brand is, its your responsibility to back up your precious data in the end. Getting a replacement for a broken HDD is a minor issue compared to the "cost" of losing data.

If you run a server, of course that's a completely different matter.
1 Like #25
mumjit
They are good overall value but you also have to factor in reliability. I buy on average about 100 Samusng HDD's in every month and have to return at least 10 every week due to them failing within the first month of usage. I now buy a mixture of both Samsung HDD's and Western Digital drives and over the past 3 years have only had to return 8 Western Digital drives that have failed. As I say Samsung are cheap and customers are willing to take the punt and see if they get a reliable drive. I'm not knocking Scan or Samsung - I just know if it was my own money and my own PC and my main focus was on reliability rather than price or quietness then I wouldnt not be buying a Samsung drive. Considering these are 'Storage Drives' there's no way in hell with my own personal experience of these drives that I would ever consider using this drive to house 2TB of my own personal data without having it backed up on a more reliable manufacturer of drive.




You buy a 100 drives every month? for what PB of porno?
#26
Thanks for the info mumjit
#27
Question for 4k sector experts:

If i use this drive in XP (hence 512 emulation), once i upgrade to Windows 7, will that cause problems with the files that are already on the drive? Will the drive have to be wiped for it to work at full speed?
#28
mumjit
They are good overall value but you also have to factor in reliability. I buy on average about 100 Samusng HDD's in every month and have to return at least 10 every week due to them failing within the first month of usage. I now buy a mixture of both Samsung HDD's and Western Digital drives and over the past 3 years have only had to return 8 Western Digital drives that have failed. As I say Samsung are cheap and customers are willing to take the punt and see if they get a reliable drive. I'm not knocking Scan or Samsung - I just know if it was my own money and my own PC and my main focus was on reliability rather than price or quietness then I wouldnt not be buying a Samsung drive. Considering these are 'Storage Drives' there's no way in hell with my own personal experience of these drives that I would ever consider using this drive to house 2TB of my own personal data without having it backed up on a more reliable manufacturer of drive.


Something isn't adding up here!!

You buy roughly 100 Samsung drives per month - yet end up returning 40 of those drives per month?? So you have a failure rate of over 40% ... I think you should go and have a wee think about that as it sounds like some of the worst garbage I have ever read.;)
#29
Where do I check the warranty on my F4EGs? I've been searching the Samsung website but this is eluding me.
#30
JunkMail
Where do I check the warranty on my F4EGs? I've been searching the Samsung website but this is eluding me.


Rexo handle the official warranty in the UK:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/support/warranty/Support_Warranty.html

if it isn't covered by Samsung the vendor you purchased it from should have added their own warranty T&C on these OEM drives - so look there.
#31
crofter - Feb 02, 2011 22:00
Rexo handle the official warranty in the UK:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/support/warranty/Support_Warranty.html

if it isn't covered by Samsung the vendor you purchased it from should have added their own warranty T&C on these OEM drives - so look there.
Thanks crofter. So far I have checked four F4s that I bought from DCL Store in December and the good news is that they are all under warranty.
#32



Thanks for that, Crofter.
#33
sharp910sh
mumjit
They are good overall value but you also have to factor in reliability. I buy on average about 100 Samusng HDD's in every month and have to return at least 10 every week due to them failing within the first month of usage. I now buy a mixture of both Samsung HDD's and Western Digital drives and over the past 3 years have only had to return 8 Western Digital drives that have failed. As I say Samsung are cheap and customers are willing to take the punt and see if they get a reliable drive. I'm not knocking Scan or Samsung - I just know if it was my own money and my own PC and my main focus was on reliability rather than price or quietness then I wouldnt not be buying a Samsung drive. Considering these are 'Storage Drives' there's no way in hell with my own personal experience of these drives that I would ever consider using this drive to house 2TB of my own personal data without having it backed up on a more reliable manufacturer of drive.




You buy a 100 drives every month? for what PB of porno?


Lol, no - I build PC's and supply them to the education authority in my area.
#34
crofter
mumjit
They are good overall value but you also have to factor in reliability. I buy on average about 100 Samusng HDD's in every month and have to return at least 10 every week due to them failing within the first month of usage. I now buy a mixture of both Samsung HDD's and Western Digital drives and over the past 3 years have only had to return 8 Western Digital drives that have failed. As I say Samsung are cheap and customers are willing to take the punt and see if they get a reliable drive. I'm not knocking Scan or Samsung - I just know if it was my own money and my own PC and my main focus was on reliability rather than price or quietness then I wouldnt not be buying a Samsung drive. Considering these are 'Storage Drives' there's no way in hell with my own personal experience of these drives that I would ever consider using this drive to house 2TB of my own personal data without having it backed up on a more reliable manufacturer of drive.


Something isn't adding up here!!

You buy roughly 100 Samsung drives per month - yet end up returning 40 of those drives per month?? So you have a failure rate of over 40% ... I think you should go and have a wee think about that as it sounds like some of the worst garbage I have ever read.;)


My mistake, that should have read at least 10 a month, not 10 a week. Unfortunately the individual components supplied are stipulated in a contract and so I have to supply the agreed components. It's a shame the Western Digitals are nearly double the price in some instances as I'd soley order those if I could of predicted the problems we'd have with the Samsung drives.
#35
Never had a problem with WD or Samsung. The worst offenders are Hitachi and Seagate and i log calls at least 1-2 times a week for replacement HDD's. These are 2.5inch drives though as thats all we have now in our new Lenovo equipment (laptops and SFF 'eco' desktops!).
I also work in an education authority and would never dream of buying 'built PC's'! Can't believe that some councils do this!

I will be ordering from Amazon when the price falls. A drop through the letterbox shouldn't affect a drive as the spindles and needles will be locked in position until power is fed to it. If it doesn't work it will go back....Simples. Would rather have a genuine UK one than a grey import.
#36
Satan
sokelly
Not voting for the same reason but hopefully Amazon will reduce their prices to match.


Don't bother. I ordered this from Amazon (at least the non-Z4 version), and their packaging was appalling. They put it in the same cardboard packaging that they use for DVDs. Came through the letterbox with a loud 'thud'. Needless to say I returned the drive without even testing it.

Apparently this awful packaging of HDDs is common for Amazon - do a google search. Shame, as they're usually really good.


As an extra note - it looks like they have changed their packaging to offer Frustration Free packaging which is designed to protect the item as well as standard packaging or you can opt for standard packaging for approx £1 more.
#37
I bought two of these from Amazon (OEM, but not grey imports) and have to agree about the terrible packaging. Luckily for me the postie could not fit the 'packet' through the letter box so it didn't drop 3ft onto the floor.
#38
mumjit
Masai - did you buy it from Scan? - if so then yes it is a grey import!

Scan are my component supplier and openly admit that they are not honored by Samsung's warranty due to it being a grey import that was not intended for the UK market.

Check on the Samsung website yourself if you don't beleive me - it will give you an "Out of Service area" mesage which tells you that the drive has been purchased outside of the UK service region.

Like most things, people only buy these because they are cheap.





I already checked before, thats how I know they are not gray imports...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/primiximus/samsungwarranty.jpg
#39
I have got my F3 from Scan and the warranty validation says

'Code 103 The product has been brought in from outside of this service region and cannot be serviced. Please contact your reseller or distributor.'
:(

...but I would not send my HDD for a repair/replacement, unless nothing sensitive has ever been written on it (i.e. DOA) anyway, so from my perspective, no long warranty on my hard drives is required.

You never know what's gonna happen to the returned hdds , thus I prefer to loose 40-50 quid rather than let some dodgy Nigerians going through my old, deleted and sometimes very important files (the honest part of Nigerian society - please, do not feel offended)
#40
jrw
Satan
sokelly
Not voting for the same reason but hopefully Amazon will reduce their prices to match.


Don't bother. I ordered this from Amazon (at least the non-Z4 version), and their packaging was appalling. They put it in the same cardboard packaging that they use for DVDs. Came through the letterbox with a loud 'thud'. Needless to say I returned the drive without even testing it.

Apparently this awful packaging of HDDs is common for Amazon - do a google search. Shame, as they're usually really good.


As an extra note - it looks like they have changed their packaging to offer Frustration Free packaging which is designed to protect the item as well as standard packaging or you can opt for standard packaging for approx £1 more.


But when you switch packaging format it is fulfilled by a different seller, not Amazon - strange!

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