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The Samsung UE32D4003B LED TV hands you access to a wealth of entertainment courtesy of built-in Freeview and thanks to two HDMI ports you’ll be able to have your games console and Blu-ray player connected simultaneously.
There are two HDMI connections which will allow you to connect to HD sources such as blu-ray players, consoles, set-top boxes or camcorders. An 8-day electronic programme guide will also ensure you will always find something great to watch.

Sound is delivered via two 10 watt speakers and features Dolby Digital +SRS theatre sound.
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#41
JamieH
You won't really notice the difference between 720p over 1080p on a 32" TV. On this basis I am voting H O T 8)


Depends on usage, i have nothing against 720p panels. Ive got a 720p plasma. But if people had any intention on gaming on this or using it as a monitor etc then i would advise against buying it.
#42
Nellster
i can't tell the dif between 720 and 1080 on my 32".. i don't believe many would pass the pepsi challenge either unless you are 1ft away from tv


How can you compare 720p and 1080p on the same tv?????
#43
Sawb
JamieH
You won't really notice the difference between 720p over 1080p on a 32" TV. On this basis I am voting H O T 8)


Depends on usage, i have nothing against 720p panels. Ive got a 720p plasma. But if people had any intention on gaming on this or using it as a monitor etc then i would advise against buying it.


I agree if using as a monitor and sitting within 8 feet of the set as I have a 32" 720p in my bedroom as a monitor and I am looking at upgrading to 1080p. But saying that the downstairs TV is 32" 1080p and when watching blu-ray on either set from 8 foot away I can't tell the difference. Oh and they are both Sammys.
#44
steve10574
Can this be hacked to play video files (dont think it does out the box)

Yes
#45
The sound quality on Samsung is ****!
#46
Sawb
hank2spoons
samsung along with pannys are the dogs dangleys. I believe 1080p is only usefull on a broadcasting level if u have gd channels. Plus u can upscale to 1080i for gaming. So if u dont have any hd channels u will be watching tv on 720p. I would say surely better the hz i.e. 100hz and above the better.


This tv will not display 1080i, it can accept a signal in that format and convert it to its native 720p panel. Im not sure what you mean you'll be watching tv on 720p, everything you watch on this tv will be 720p, better if its given native 720p material or the tv will upscale the signal itself and the 100hz thing is personal preference, it can cause as many problems as it fixes.

I thought most new led/lcd could upscale to 1080i for gaming. so are u saying it cannot play the xbox360 at high def 1080i?? if not thats pants. my old sharp aquious upscales to 1080i no probs, as does my even older goodmans lcd
#47
Its a amazing price better than tesco value ones
#48
I have one unopened/unsealed one (bought yesterday from John Lewis, luckily replacing another order). If anybody is interested, I can give it for 20£ cheaper. Just pm me.
#49
hank2spoons
Sawb
hank2spoons
samsung along with pannys are the dogs dangleys. I believe 1080p is only usefull on a broadcasting level if u have gd channels. Plus u can upscale to 1080i for gaming. So if u dont have any hd channels u will be watching tv on 720p. I would say surely better the hz i.e. 100hz and above the better.


This tv will not display 1080i, it can accept a signal in that format and convert it to its native 720p panel. Im not sure what you mean you'll be watching tv on 720p, everything you watch on this tv will be 720p, better if its given native 720p material or the tv will upscale the signal itself and the 100hz thing is personal preference, it can cause as many problems as it fixes.

I thought most new led/lcd could upscale to 1080i for gaming. so are u saying it cannot play the xbox360 at high def 1080i?? if not thats pants. my old sharp aquious upscales to 1080i no probs, as does my even older goodmans lcd


I think youll find your old lcd's do not display 1080i. As far as im aware no lcd screens display interlaced material and a 720p tv can not display more pixels than it physically has. Whenever these tv's speak about 1080i its simply about being able to accept a 1080i signal and convert it. I think its a marketing gimmick to confuse consumers into thinky its basically the same as a 1080p tv. You should not feed a 720p tv 1080i material if possible as it simply will create a worse picture as more picture processing is needed and more lag as a result. If you have an xbox you should set the picture to what matches the panel, a lot of lcd's screens are actually 1366x768, that is the settting you should have your xbox on (if thats what your tv actually is)
#50
Great deal, Heat added! :)
#51
Yes, newer TVs are out but that's why it's cheap!

Rough guide to viewing distances http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Article/How-Far-Should-I-Sit.php

For a 32" TV, pretty much no-one will be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p from 2 metres away.
#52
Sawb
Nellster
i can't tell the dif between 720 and 1080 on my 32".. i don't believe many would pass the pepsi challenge either unless you are 1ft away from tv


How can you compare 720p and 1080p on the same tv?????



By watching a blu-ray (1080p) and watching Sky HD 1080i which is more like 720p.
#53
shareef
Common Sense
5 year warranty, according to Richer Sounds costs 10% of purchase price = £27.90.

EU law... goods should last a reasonable duration. 2 years minium and arguably 5 years+.
You have 6 years to make a claim. After 2 years it is on your head to show a common fault.
There are many reviews and user groups to help.

Brother repaired my printer after 5 years after I mentioned the regulation. For less than £300, few companies are willing to waste a day in the small claims court to defend a claim. It costs them more to represent themselves and they cannot reclaim costs. For low cost items, consumers are king!


And a 5 year warranty at comet/currys costs a hell of a lot more, I was talking average.


The average of £27.99 and Comets/Currys warranty price on a set costing £279 is £100 - £200?

Why would anyone in their right mind pay £100-£200 to indemnify themselves against a fault in a product costing £279. Particularly when you are covered by the manufacturers warranty for the first year.

Even if you could find such a ridiculously priced extended warranty, doesn't make a 5 year warranty "worth" between 35% - 70% of the cost of the product. There's a difference between what something is worth and the highest price you can find for it.
#54
scoob65
Sawb
Nellster
i can't tell the dif between 720 and 1080 on my 32".. i don't believe many would pass the pepsi challenge either unless you are 1ft away from tv


How can you compare 720p and 1080p on the same tv?????





By watching a blu-ray (1080p) and watching Sky HD 1080i which is more like 720p.


1080i is not more like 720p, its unfortunately a common misconception stated on this site. In fact for some content (movies which are natively 24fps) there's no difference between broadcast 1080p/50 and 1080i/50 (Assuming your set can de-interlace correctly. And possibly the frame rate conversion method used by your set and the broadcaster). Even for material natively shot at 1080p/50/60, broadcasting at 1080i/50 provides significantly more detail then 720p/50 and requires no scaling if your set is 1080p.

More over, I think you misunderstood the question the other poster was posing. An LCD/Plasma panels native resolution is fixed. You cannot therefore compare the merits of a 720p panel over a 1080p panel, by simply feeding it source material at different resolutions. You will see an image at the panels native resolution, wether that be scaled or not.

Edited By: Mentos on Feb 20, 2012 01:48
#55
blue_eyes777
what would PC text look like running on this please?
any ideas?


It'll be fine. I have my spare pc on a 720 tv and it is adequate. I prefer a 1080 tv for using as a monitor so that more of a webpage is displayed and you can change the resolution to suit you
#56
darrenanderson1984
blue_eyes777
what would PC text look like running on this please?
any ideas?


It'll be fine. I have my spare pc on a 720 tv and it is adequate. I prefer a 1080 tv for using as a monitor so that more of a webpage is displayed and you can change the resolution to suit you

No way, you definately need 1080p if you intend on using it as a monitor on a 32". It looks far too pixilated as you sit so close. i use 1080p on my 32" and setting it at a smaller resolution looks terrible, I would want more than 1080p too. 720p is fine for up to 22".
#57
Sawb
JamieH
You won't really notice the difference between 720p over 1080p on a 32" TV. On this basis I am voting H O T 8)


Depends on usage, i have nothing against 720p panels. Ive got a 720p plasma. But if people had any intention on gaming on this or using it as a monitor etc then i would advise against buying it.

It depends on screen size and viewing distance, thats it.
Gaming on consoles is 720p so irrelevant. Monitor needs atleast 1080p for a 32" as you sit close.
Overal if you going to use this tv for anything other than a monitor, it will be fine.
How can you compare 720p and 1080p on the same tv?????

Simply by changing the output resolution on your hd device like a bluray player or using something which outputs in 720p.

Edited By: smellyonion on Feb 20, 2012 05:05
#58
blizzard7
Yes, newer TVs are out but that's why it's cheap!

Rough guide to viewing distances http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Article/How-Far-Should-I-Sit.php

For a 32" TV, pretty much no-one will be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p from 2 metres away.


marketing **** used to sell 720 tvs.
1 Like #59
retrend
blizzard7
Yes, newer TVs are out but that's why it's cheap!

Rough guide to viewing distances http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Article/How-Far-Should-I-Sit.php

For a 32" TV, pretty much no-one will be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p from 2 metres away.


marketing **** used to sell 720 tvs.

the irony of your statement is that the true marketing bs about the superiority of 1080p on small displays was absorbed by you.
Viewing distance and screensize is science, at greater distances, the human eye is incapable of resolving details.
Also who is marketing to who? A smal, independent website....what stupidity.
The world being round must also be marketing, by your logic.
#60
Totally agree with the above. If you're using as a TV, at any kind of reasonable distance, you'd be hard pressed to tell 720p v 1080p (different as a monitor, of course)

Edit: The hdtvtest link above does explain it quite well..

Edited By: crazyp on Feb 20, 2012 08:02
#61
Yes no freeview hd built in what a shame cheapest freeview hd tv 32inch is a toshiba at £300 but does anyone know a cheaper one ???????????
#62
Mentos
IMO the 5 year JL warranty makes it a reasonably good deal. However, if the equivalent models from the previous generation are anything to go by, this will not be an unusually low price for this TV.

I agree with you plus the 5yr warranty is standard with all TVs purchased from anywhere in UK! its consumer rights actually that covers min 6yrs.
#63
697 deg and rising!? I am not saying this is a bad deal at all but I have to say I am surprised at the level of heat this is getting. I have been keeping an eye on 32" TV deals on here for the last month or so and when I saw this I passed over it without too much interest as I thought that this price was fairly standard but then saw it as the hottest deal today!?
#64
mikeswrx02
Mentos
IMO the 5 year JL warranty makes it a reasonably good deal. However, if the equivalent models from the previous generation are anything to go by, this will not be an unusually low price for this TV.

I agree with you plus the 5yr warranty is standard with all TVs purchased from anywhere in UK! its consumer rights actually that covers min 6yrs.

Oh stop this nonsense, there is no 5yr standard warranty! This has been talked about a lot, and I know there will be one or 2 people saying they know its consumer rights, now you say it's even 6yrs, so JL is actually breaking the law by offering just 5yrs, but no, you should not expect to have 5yr (or 6yr, make up your mind) standard warranty on any TV you bought from whatever seller.

For people who do expect to get a 5yr/6yr warranty on a tv bought from PcWorld for instance, I would encourage them to get a written response about this from the seller before making the purchase, to avoid disapointment in the future.

They are selling the extra yrs of warranty as a separate product, people, shouldn't this be a brutal violation of all the fair-trading laws and regulations if that 5yr/6yrs standard warranty was true?
#65
I see the resolution simpletons are on again...must --- get --- big--- numbers --- make --- better. (_;)
#66
smellyonion
Sawb
JamieH
You won't really notice the difference between 720p over 1080p on a 32" TV. On this basis I am voting H O T 8)


Depends on usage, i have nothing against 720p panels. Ive got a 720p plasma. But if people had any intention on gaming on this or using it as a monitor etc then i would advise against buying it.

It depends on screen size and viewing distance, thats it.
Gaming on consoles is 720p so irrelevant. Monitor needs atleast 1080p for a 32" as you sit close.
Overal if you going to use this tv for anything other than a monitor, it will be fine.
How can you compare 720p and 1080p on the same tv?????

Simply by changing the output resolution on your hd device like a bluray player or using something which outputs in 720p.


Simply wrong, if he has a 1080p tv and simply sets his bluray player to output at 720p the tv will not magically loose half of its pixels and convert to a 720p panel. The image seen on the tv will be a 1920x1080p image just scaled. You CANT compare a 1080p tv and a 720p tv on the same PANEL just cause youve fed it both source materials
#67
Sawb
smellyonion
Sawb
JamieH
You won't really notice the difference between 720p over 1080p on a 32" TV. On this basis I am voting H O T 8)


Depends on usage, i have nothing against 720p panels. Ive got a 720p plasma. But if people had any intention on gaming on this or using it as a monitor etc then i would advise against buying it.

It depends on screen size and viewing distance, thats it.
Gaming on consoles is 720p so irrelevant. Monitor needs atleast 1080p for a 32" as you sit close.
Overal if you going to use this tv for anything other than a monitor, it will be fine.
How can you compare 720p and 1080p on the same tv?????

Simply by changing the output resolution on your hd device like a bluray player or using something which outputs in 720p.


Simply wrong, if he has a 1080p tv and simply sets his bluray player to output at 720p the tv will not magically loose half of its pixels and convert to a 720p panel. The image seen on the tv will be a 1920x1080p image just scaled. You CANT compare a 1080p tv and a 720p tv on the same PANEL just cause youve fed it both source materials

Not entirely true. 720p upscaled does not magically become 1:1(which is the most important thing) pixel mapping for 1080p panel. By this logic, does a dvd look like a bluray on a hd tv?, its upscaled. Displaying an upscaled 720p image on a 1080p panel will look very very near to 720p image on a 720p panel, this is why you can compare them.
When gaming on my 32" 1080p tv (used as a monitor), when games are running at 1080p, I can sit as close a 1 foot and the image is clean, when setting the game to 720p, it has alot of noise at close distances and at 3+ feet it looks exactly the same at 1080p. This makes it unpractical as a monitor but more than fine at everything else.

Edited By: smellyonion on Feb 20, 2012 16:19
#68
Got the next model up (UE32D5000) last Fri for just £20 more from PCWorld. Better specced, a better implementation of the so-called 'crystal' design concept (so looks really cool), better expert reviews generally, and brilliant pq to boot. OK, only 1yr warranty, & no FV HD, but if you're on VM TiVo or Sky (or already have an HD tuner), who cares? Sound? Maybe not the best, but a darn sight better than the old (inherited) JVC it just replaced. That was truly abominable, and amazed we put up with it for so long. Again, any surround sound cinema system will vastly improve any flat panel Tv.

Why spend more when affordable OLED's will be mainstream in just 2-3 yrs?
#69
Mentos
shareef
Common Sense
5 year warranty, according to Richer Sounds costs 10% of purchase price = £27.90.

EU law... goods should last a reasonable duration. 2 years minium and arguably 5 years+.
You have 6 years to make a claim. After 2 years it is on your head to show a common fault.
There are many reviews and user groups to help.

Brother repaired my printer after 5 years after I mentioned the regulation. For less than £300, few companies are willing to waste a day in the small claims court to defend a claim. It costs them more to represent themselves and they cannot reclaim costs. For low cost items, consumers are king!


And a 5 year warranty at comet/currys costs a hell of a lot more, I was talking average.


The average of £27.99 and Comets/Currys warranty price on a set costing £279 is £100 - £200?

Why would anyone in their right mind pay £100-£200 to indemnify themselves against a fault in a product costing £279. Particularly when you are covered by the manufacturers warranty for the first year.

Even if you could find such a ridiculously priced extended warranty, doesn't make a 5 year warranty "worth" between 35% - 70% of the cost of the product. There's a difference between what something is worth and the highest price you can find for it.


That is irrelevant, whether you think its worth it or not, the fact is it includes this, so if you compare the price of another tv then include it with the 5 year warranty even if it is a ridiculous price.
#70
smellyonion
Sawb
smellyonion
Sawb
JamieH
You won't really notice the difference between 720p over 1080p on a 32" TV. On this basis I am voting H O T 8)


Depends on usage, i have nothing against 720p panels. Ive got a 720p plasma. But if people had any intention on gaming on this or using it as a monitor etc then i would advise against buying it.

It depends on screen size and viewing distance, thats it.
Gaming on consoles is 720p so irrelevant. Monitor needs atleast 1080p for a 32" as you sit close.
Overal if you going to use this tv for anything other than a monitor, it will be fine.
How can you compare 720p and 1080p on the same tv?????

Simply by changing the output resolution on your hd device like a bluray player or using something which outputs in 720p.


Simply wrong, if he has a 1080p tv and simply sets his bluray player to output at 720p the tv will not magically loose half of its pixels and convert to a 720p panel. The image seen on the tv will be a 1920x1080p image just scaled. You CANT compare a 1080p tv and a 720p tv on the same PANEL just cause youve fed it both source materials

Not entirely true. 720p upscaled does not magically become 1:1(which is the most important thing) pixel mapping for 1080p panel. By this logic, does a dvd look like a bluray on a hd tv?, its upscaled. Displaying an upscaled 720p image on a 1080p panel will look very very near to 720p image on a 720p panel, this is why you can compare them.
When gaming on my 32" 1080p tv (used as a monitor), when games are running at 1080p, I can sit as close a 1 foot and the image is clean, when setting the game to 720p, it has alot of noise at close distances and at 3+ feet it looks exactly the same at 1080p. This makes it unpractical as a monitor but more than fine at everything else.


Lol no a 720p image upscaled does not enable 1:1 pixel mapping as that is for when your feeding the tv source material that matches the tvs panel to avoid any processing, turning a 720p image into 1080p to fill the tv requires processing. I never claimed a dvd looks like a bluray but as you have said the tv will upscale the image, will turn a 720p image into a 1080p image but the tv has had to guess what the missing pixels are, the tvs ability in doing this will determine how good it looks. A 1080p tv with an awful processor could make any material other than 1080p look crap and create the artifacts you refer to, some tv's might upscale the image much better. So what your actually testing is the tv,s processing ability, its not a fair comparison end of.
#71
Freeview HD built in No
Full HD 1080p No
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#72
Sawb
hank2spoons
Sawb
hank2spoons
samsung along with pannys are the dogs dangleys. I believe 1080p is only usefull on a broadcasting level if u have gd channels. Plus u can upscale to 1080i for gaming. So if u dont have any hd channels u will be watching tv on 720p. I would say surely better the hz i.e. 100hz and above the better.


This tv will not display 1080i, it can accept a signal in that format and convert it to its native 720p panel. Im not sure what you mean you'll be watching tv on 720p, everything you watch on this tv will be 720p, better if its given native 720p material or the tv will upscale the signal itself and the 100hz thing is personal preference, it can cause as many problems as it fixes.

I thought most new led/lcd could upscale to 1080i for gaming. so are u saying it cannot play the xbox360 at high def 1080i?? if not thats pants. my old sharp aquious upscales to 1080i no probs, as does my even older goodmans lcd


I think youll find your old lcd's do not display 1080i. As far as im aware no lcd screens display interlaced material and a 720p tv can not display more pixels than it physically has. Whenever these tv's speak about 1080i its simply about being able to accept a 1080i signal and convert it. I think its a marketing gimmick to confuse consumers into thinky its basically the same as a 1080p tv. You should not feed a 720p tv 1080i material if possible as it simply will create a worse picture as more picture processing is needed and more lag as a result. If you have an xbox you should set the picture to what matches the panel, a lot of lcd's screens are actually 1366x768, that is the settting you should have your xbox on (if thats what your tv actually is)

I think you are wrong here, simply because, when changing the settings from 720p to 1080i on my xbox360 dashboard, I can instantly notice a far better quality picture. The tv would not accept it if it didnt work. Also when I plug in the hdmi cable to the tv it syncs automatically to 1080i. Ithink you are confusing broadcasting with gaming.
#73
shareef
Mentos
shareef
Common Sense
5 year warranty, according to Richer Sounds costs 10% of purchase price = £27.90.

EU law... goods should last a reasonable duration. 2 years minium and arguably 5 years+.
You have 6 years to make a claim. After 2 years it is on your head to show a common fault.
There are many reviews and user groups to help.

Brother repaired my printer after 5 years after I mentioned the regulation. For less than £300, few companies are willing to waste a day in the small claims court to defend a claim. It costs them more to represent themselves and they cannot reclaim costs. For low cost items, consumers are king!


And a 5 year warranty at comet/currys costs a hell of a lot more, I was talking average.


The average of £27.99 and Comets/Currys warranty price on a set costing £279 is £100 - £200?

Why would anyone in their right mind pay £100-£200 to indemnify themselves against a fault in a product costing £279. Particularly when you are covered by the manufacturers warranty for the first year.

Even if you could find such a ridiculously priced extended warranty, doesn't make a 5 year warranty "worth" between 35% - 70% of the cost of the product. There's a difference between what something is worth and the highest price you can find for it.


That is irrelevant, whether you think its worth it or not, the fact is it includes this, so if you compare the price of another tv then include it with the 5 year warranty even if it is a ridiculous price.


So if you walk into your local shopping centre and everyone is selling a pair of trainers for £50, but you see one shop selling them for £500 thats the value you'd place on those trainers?

I have at no point suggested the 5 year warranty is worth nothing, infact I've stated earlier in this thread that it is the warranty that makes it a reasonable deal. What I'm taking issue with is the monetary value you've placed on that warranty, as its highly misleading. You made a silly statement, that the 5 warranty on a £279 TV is worth £100 to £200, why not just admit it instead of perpetuating your mistake by arguing the indefensible?

Edited By: Mentos on Feb 21, 2012 13:01
#74
crazyp
Totally agree with the above. If you're using as a TV, at any kind of reasonable distance, you'd be hard pressed to tell 720p v 1080p (different as a monitor, of course)

Edit: The hdtvtest link above does explain it quite well..


Ironically, 1080p was considered important precisely because it is the minimum resolution (for most people) at which you can sit close enough to achieve 40% field of view, without being able to see the pixel structure. Therefore it depends on your definition of reasonable distance. If it is similar to the likes of THX then it probably is important you purchase a 1080p set. On the other hand if you apply the same seating distance restrictions as you did with your old CRT, perhaps 720p is too much for you.

I would suggest however, since people are buying bigger and bigger sets, while their homes don't appear to be getting bigger, the viewing public are heading towards the THX recommended viewing distances.

Edited By: Mentos on Feb 21, 2012 13:22
#75
Hi all. Please can you help as ever time I think Ive understood re all the specifications I then get confused again! Have never felt so confused or taken this long to purchase a decent telly however the arguments as to which telly, plasma, LCD/LED etc, green blobs, poor audio etc etc have sent my head into a spin! For now though if I can just ensure that I get the right size/image resolution for the size of my room I will be happy :-)
I have a square rectangle of a room (20ft/8ft approx) which gets alot of light. Due to the shape of the room my two sofa's are side-by-side in the middle of the room facing the opposite wall. I want to buy and mount a decent spec TV :-) on the wall opposite. Viewing distance would be 2.5 m's/just over 8 feet. Inside aerial reception rubbish. I do not have a surround sound sytem or a blu-ray player at present (archaic I know!). Will probably hold on till the end of the month till I purchase hoping for a good deal. Son plays xbox however unlikely too in this room! Any help on size of telly/resolution much appreciated!
#76
hank2spoons
Sawb
hank2spoons
Sawb
hank2spoons
samsung along with pannys are the dogs dangleys. I believe 1080p is only usefull on a broadcasting level if u have gd channels. Plus u can upscale to 1080i for gaming. So if u dont have any hd channels u will be watching tv on 720p. I would say surely better the hz i.e. 100hz and above the better.


This tv will not display 1080i, it can accept a signal in that format and convert it to its native 720p panel. Im not sure what you mean you'll be watching tv on 720p, everything you watch on this tv will be 720p, better if its given native 720p material or the tv will upscale the signal itself and the 100hz thing is personal preference, it can cause as many problems as it fixes.

I thought most new led/lcd could upscale to 1080i for gaming. so are u saying it cannot play the xbox360 at high def 1080i?? if not thats pants. my old sharp aquious upscales to 1080i no probs, as does my even older goodmans lcd


I think youll find your old lcd's do not display 1080i. As far as im aware no lcd screens display interlaced material and a 720p tv can not display more pixels than it physically has. Whenever these tv's speak about 1080i its simply about being able to accept a 1080i signal and convert it. I think its a marketing gimmick to confuse consumers into thinky its basically the same as a 1080p tv. You should not feed a 720p tv 1080i material if possible as it simply will create a worse picture as more picture processing is needed and more lag as a result. If you have an xbox you should set the picture to what matches the panel, a lot of lcd's screens are actually 1366x768, that is the settting you should have your xbox on (if thats what your tv actually is)

I think you are wrong here, simply because, when changing the settings from 720p to 1080i on my xbox360 dashboard, I can instantly notice a far better quality picture. The tv would not accept it if it didnt work. Also when I plug in the hdmi cable to the tv it syncs automatically to 1080i. Ithink you are confusing broadcasting with gaming.


Sorry im convinced im right. Your sending a 720p tv a 1080i image, the tv takes two of the interlaced images to make one frame, which will leave you with like 25 frames of 1080p images then your tv after all that work throws away over half of the pixels as they simply wont fit on your tv, fact. The tv will accept alot of inputs but can only ever actually display what the panel is. Would your experiencing is probably a placebo ie bigger must be better or perhaps youve set it to 720p and 1080i does actually look better because you tv isnt true 720p and is infact 1366x768p in which case im sure the xbox has got that setting, if so that is the setting you should have it on. Im not confusing anything.
#77
Sawb
hank2spoons
Sawb
hank2spoons
Sawb
hank2spoons
samsung along with pannys are the dogs dangleys. I believe 1080p is only usefull on a broadcasting level if u have gd channels. Plus u can upscale to 1080i for gaming. So if u dont have any hd channels u will be watching tv on 720p. I would say surely better the hz i.e. 100hz and above the better.


This tv will not display 1080i, it can accept a signal in that format and convert it to its native 720p panel. Im not sure what you mean you'll be watching tv on 720p, everything you watch on this tv will be 720p, better if its given native 720p material or the tv will upscale the signal itself and the 100hz thing is personal preference, it can cause as many problems as it fixes.

I thought most new led/lcd could upscale to 1080i for gaming. so are u saying it cannot play the xbox360 at high def 1080i?? if not thats pants. my old sharp aquious upscales to 1080i no probs, as does my even older goodmans lcd


I think youll find your old lcd's do not display 1080i. As far as im aware no lcd screens display interlaced material and a 720p tv can not display more pixels than it physically has. Whenever these tv's speak about 1080i its simply about being able to accept a 1080i signal and convert it. I think its a marketing gimmick to confuse consumers into thinky its basically the same as a 1080p tv. You should not feed a 720p tv 1080i material if possible as it simply will create a worse picture as more picture processing is needed and more lag as a result. If you have an xbox you should set the picture to what matches the panel, a lot of lcd's screens are actually 1366x768, that is the settting you should have your xbox on (if thats what your tv actually is)

I think you are wrong here, simply because, when changing the settings from 720p to 1080i on my xbox360 dashboard, I can instantly notice a far better quality picture. The tv would not accept it if it didnt work. Also when I plug in the hdmi cable to the tv it syncs automatically to 1080i. Ithink you are confusing broadcasting with gaming.


Sorry im convinced im right. Your sending a 720p tv a 1080i image, the tv takes two of the interlaced images to make one frame, which will leave you with like 25 frames of 1080p images then your tv after all that work throws away over half of the pixels as they simply wont fit on your tv, fact. The tv will accept alot of inputs but can only ever actually display what the panel is. Would your experiencing is probably a placebo ie bigger must be better or perhaps youve set it to 720p and 1080i does actually look better because you tv isnt true 720p and is infact 1366x768p in which case im sure the xbox has got that setting, if so that is the setting you should have it on. Im not confusing anything.



I suspect the panel is WXGA (1366 x 768) and not doing a good job of upscaling when the Xbox is set to output 720p (there are relatively few 1280 x 720 consumer LCD TV's). Down scaling often produces a better result then upscaling, even when the lower resolution may appear to be a closer match. It's probably especially noticeable on a static image like the dashboard.

I believe you are right, the Xbox does offer an output res of WXGA.
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Your TV should be at least 20% cheaper than John Lewis, i.e. the actual price of the TV less what the government takes at point of sale, sometimes called VAT.

Edited By: Sponge on Feb 23, 2012 14:48

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