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I bought this TV last bank holiday and for the price its a great tv with a great picture, but Peggy Bedford, its not 1080 so buy yourself a house with a large living room and you won't notice the difference, why sqaunder your hard earned cash on something 3 times the price? model is ps50b450 and only 49.99 for 5 year gurantee
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#1
Jesus no 1080p for this money, cold.
#2
I don't think it's a great price, the lack of HD support lost my vote! Cold.
banned#3
Posts like the above two just really sum it - most people walk around in a bubble and do not know whats going on.

1. 1080p does not matter on this size TV, maybes(just a tiny bit) a little better for PC but for SKY, PS3, 360, Freeview etc etc, this will not matter.

2. Just because its not 1080p does not mean its not HD, 720p is as good and will give you a high definition picture - I think Peggy has been hiring these people to troll posts.

rant over!
#4
both crap points, disagree totaly.
banned#5
Defiant306
both crap points, disagree totaly.


so your saying because its not 1080p its not HD?
#6
Point 1 - A Screen this size will show a large difference in a 720P or 1080P source. Hell I can notice the difference on a lesser sized screen. I can even tell if it’s a 720P source up scaled like SKY is famous for doing.
Point 2 - HD is a very loosely used term for many different resolutions which in reality are a joke since I've been using 'hd' on my PC for 10+ years now.
#7
Defiant306
both crap points, disagree totaly.


Both crap points? You do realise by saying that, you've proven you know absolutely nothing about HD TVs...

alexthekid is entirely correct. Only Blu-ray, HD-DVD and some games are rendered at 1080p. Everything else, including Sky HD, is in 720p, therefore there will be no real benefit having a 1080p set.

Furthermore, you'd have to sit quite close to a TV of that size to start to notice the difference between 1080p content and 720p content. Most peoples' lounges are more than large enough to completely negate the difference.

So, to sum up, most people (including the two troll posts at the beginning of this thread) have been suckered into the 1080p hype that the TV manufacturers have been spinning. It's the quality of the set and panel that makes the difference. For example, a 720p Panasonic plasma will thrash any Samsung plasma, 1080p or not. And if you step up again, a 720p Pioneer would look better than any 1080p set around.

Anyway, on topic, that's a good price for an entirely reasonable TV. Heat added.
#8
To be honest, at this price I think i would be looking for something that was full hd, although what you say about most content being rendered at 1280 x 720 is correct. personally i would be looking at use this hooked up to a media pc, but if you have for example a blu-ray player at 50" you will be able to tell the difference. I have a full HD 23" computer screen and when i sit close (i know you dont sit that close to a 50" tv!) but you can tell the difference, so i suspect with something thats more than 4 times as large the difference would be more noticable.
banned#9
Defiant306
both crap points, disagree totaly.


you really need to understand the ratio of screen size and viewing distance............OK - kids may crowd around a tv far too close to watch cbeeebies but adults should know better, you gotta behave like a grown up and push your chair back :whistling:
#10
jamescross91
To be honest, at this price I think i would be looking for something that was full hd, although what you say about most content being rendered at 1280 x 720 is correct. personally i would be looking at use this hooked up to a media pc, but if you have for example a blu-ray player at 50" you will be able to tell the difference. I have a full HD 23" computer screen and when i sit close (i know you dont sit that close to a 50" tv!) but you can tell the difference, so i suspect with something thats more than 4 times as large the difference would be more noticable.


When I said you can't tell the difference, I meant in a real situation, i.e. sitting more than 8 foot from the TV. Of course if you sat, say, 6 feet away, you'd be able to tell the difference between 1080p content and 720p, but how many people do that?

Take a look at the following graph: http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-charted-viewing-distance-to-screen-size/

I would wager that most people buying a 50" plasma will be doing so intending to watch from about 10 feet away, in which case that graph shows the difference between 1080p content and 720p would be negligible. I'm sure if you sat down with two different sources and flicked between the two you might be able to pick out small differences, but you really wouldn't notice it while watching a film in full flow.

As I said earlier, panel quality makes far more of a difference than the resolution of the TV. And for this money, I would really like to see where you can get a better 50" plasma set.
banned#11
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

+1 , this tv offers amazing value and picture quality is great
#12
Yawn i see hundreds of tv's daily i can tell you in all honesty 1080p matters in the long run.

Here are are a few reasons why 1080p is good and not so good .

1. It allows you to be a lot more future ready in a sense as everything will one day hit the1080p format or higher XHD (name not finalised yet) has already had some outing's so if you are using this tv for around 5 year's you will notice a big difference.

2. lower definition tv's will normally play sd formats (normally tv for example bbc1) a huge amount better especially in the budget ranges as there is a big difference.

3. If you are using any kind of pc, laptop, PS3, Xbox 360 anything that will use hd content then 1080p is a must have there is a clear and huge difference when using these.

4. So it all comes down to what you want from your tv in the end. If you want future-proofing then do not buy any non 1080p tv,

If you want to just use a tv for casual use just solely for standard definition channels then these tvs are fine for you.

Edit - from this post you can clearly see i have been awake for 37 hours...
#13
While it's good to get a bit of a discussion going let's not forget that this is a site to share hot deals - and if anyone has decided they want a Samsung 50" plasma TV, this is a good deal for them. If someone has decided they want a 50" 1080p plasma, it's not. Let's leave personal preferences out - I dislike Apple products, but if someone posts a deal for a cheap iPad on here I'm not going to vote it cold and start arguing with people just because I personally dislike the product.
#14
Defiant306
Jesus no 1080p for this money, cold.


jamescross91
To be honest, at this price I think i would be looking for something that was full hd.



Could you guys be kind enough to post the deal that gets me a branded 1080p 50" TV below £500?:roll:
#15
Aliwoo18
While it's good to get a bit of a discussion going let's not forget that this is a site to share hot deals - and if anyone has decided they want a Samsung 50" plasma TV, this is a good deal for them. If someone has decided they want a 50" 1080p plasma, it's not. Let's leave personal preferences out - I dislike Apple products, but if someone posts a deal for a cheap iPad on here I'm not going to vote it cold and start arguing with people just because I personally dislike the product.


Well said. Think you could copy and paste that comment in to almost all electronic deals.
#16
I am not voting but I would not buy a 50" which is not 1080p.

Both my tellys are 1080p, which is an old technology in itself.

In the market for a 62" 3DTV.
#17
Just shows how easy it is for sales staff to sell 1080p - look at the idiotic comments on here. If you know nothing about technology then keep your mouth shut! Can tell the difference - yeah you fool you are sat on the screen!
#18
I'm sure it can still perform :)
and for the love of good media, you can't have everything...there must be some compromise :)
#19
bargainhunter666
Just shows how easy it is for sales staff to sell 1080p - look at the idiotic comments on here. If you know nothing about technology then keep your mouth shut! Can tell the difference - yeah you fool you are sat on the screen!


so your saying 1080p shouldnt be a selling point and people are silly for thinking its better than 720p?
#20
thelagmonster;8714443
alexthekid is entirely correct. Only Blu-ray, HD-DVD and some games are rendered at 1080p. Everything else, including Sky HD, is in 720p, therefore there will be no real benefit having a 1080p set.


No, Sky/BBC/ITV HD are all 1080i (ie 1920*540 50fps).
#21
You can post as much as you want, this is a rubbish deal to make it look good you would have to watch it with your eyes closed the picture quality is akin to watching a vhs tape just go in currys or dixons tomorrow and see for yourselves how poor the pictures are thats why they're sellling them cheap no HD/1080 no good
banned#22
mosserbett
You can post as much as you want, this is a rubbish deal to make it look good you would have to watch it with your eyes closed the picture quality is akin to watching a vhs tape just go in currys or dixons tomorrow and see for yourselves how poor the pictures are thats why they're sellling them cheap no HD/1080 no good


fail..........I'm afraid you fallen prey to the sales patter, ha ha
#23
alexthekid
Posts like the above two just really sum it - most people walk around in a bubble and do not know whats going on.

1. 1080p does not matter on this size TV, maybes(just a tiny bit) a little better for PC but for SKY, PS3, 360, Freeview etc etc, this will not matter.

2. Just because its not 1080p does not mean its not HD, 720p is as good and will give you a high definition picture - I think Peggy has been hiring these people to troll posts.

rant over!


Utter nonsense if you are putting full HD content into a TV you want full HD whenever possible - Sky granted isn't but thats not really the point here - ps3/360 etc do full 1080p and what about Bluray - I have taken back a 720p Plasma on 42" because the picture was poor on HD content so I can't even imagine how pants it would be on a 50"......

Don't spout off about stuff it seems you have no knowledge of....
#24
Right first one: Mosserbet you are an efiin idiot. I have a 50" Samsung on my wall which I picked up about 2 years ago and is an excellent picture. SKY HD is 720p, all my PS3 games on the back quite clearly state 720p and all my movies are ripped off and upscaled through my media player so why would I need a 1080p???? The picture is fantastic and is just as good as my Panansonic 42".

Second one - Aston_Martin if you are after a 62" 3D telly why are you even on this post??

I actually own a 50" Samsung so can comment first hand and to get one for £500 is a steal. Why do people come on every TV post and start spunking over 1080p???
#25
Alexthekid is completely right. Most things don't even run in 1080 and even if they do you wouldn't really notice much of a difference if any at all.

720 is obviously a smaller resolution but is also HD so the quality isn't much different.

As for dirtydog351 you have also been conned into thinking 1080 is essential. Iplay video games every day and it's common knowledge that most PS3 and XBOX 360 games are rendered in 720 so playing in 1080 wouldn't even make them look better at all.

Seriously this is an insanely low price for a TV that seems really good. If you were looking for a good TV and didn't want to spend about £700-£1000 on a 60" you should really get this.
#26
Acable12
I actually own a 50" Samsung so can comment first hand and to get one for £500 is a steal. Why do people come on every TV post and start spunking over 1080p???


Because most people think they are experts in a field they have only laymans knowledge about
#27
For the money this is a good deal. If you are in it for Sky HD then this TV wil be fine. If you want it for Blu-Ray and PS3 etc then this TV is still good but not as good as a quality 1080P model.

However, if you are thinking of buying a full HD large screen TV around this sort of price, you will find that your regular SD viewing experience will suffer. Swings and roundabouts.
banned#28
I've had this tv for about 6 weeks now and the picture quality thro freeview is excellent, my mates own panny 1080p tvs and they are shocked and a little jealous of this tv ( because of the price) and they honestly thought it was a 1080p set. I have it hooked up to a samsung sound system HT-x200 and Humax box, all in all a great set up ,very modern and stylish for about £900 . Electrical retailers wont get rich from me, lol but seeing peoples comments on this site about 1080p orgasms etc there are still plenty of mugs to line currys and dixons pockets.
#29
thelagmonster
Both crap points? You do realise by saying that, you've proven you know absolutely nothing about HD TVs...

alexthekid is entirely correct. Only Blu-ray, HD-DVD and some games are rendered at 1080p. Everything else, including Sky HD, is in 720p, therefore there will be no real benefit having a 1080p set.

Furthermore, you'd have to sit quite close to a TV of that size to start to notice the difference between 1080p content and 720p content. Most peoples' lounges are more than large enough to completely negate the difference.

So, to sum up, most people (including the two troll posts at the beginning of this thread) have been suckered into the 1080p hype that the TV manufacturers have been spinning. It's the quality of the set and panel that makes the difference. For example, a 720p Panasonic plasma will thrash any Samsung plasma, 1080p or not. And if you step up again, a 720p Pioneer would look better than any 1080p set around.

Anyway, on topic, that's a good price for an entirely reasonable TV. Heat added.


There always has and always will be a difference between 720p and 1080p no matter how big the screen is, and is generally more noticeable the larger the screen is.

As for saying a 720p panny would thrash a 1080p samsung, that probably the most idiotic thing ive ever seen someone post. Its all down to the model and specs. For instance, the 47" panny plasma which was top of the range last year, has similar picture quality to my cheap ass samsung 40" LCD, both being 1080p of course. The only obvious differences are the response times, which really doesnt justify the £800 price difference. Yes you'll have better processing of darker images and less motion blur, but when HD content is generally running at 24hz anyway, the average viewer wont notice much difference at all.

Fair enough my samsung isnt too great for gaming, but anyone with an understanding of gaming will know that pc monitors and CRTs are the only way to get a decent gaming experience without having to hash out a grand or two for a bravia lcd.

I'm not saying this TV is bad, but anyone looking into HDTVs will no doubt eventually want to get stuck into some blu rays sooner or later.

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