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Samsung 500GB 960 EVO SSD M.2 (3,000MB/s+ read speed) £211.85 from eBuyer

£211.85 @ Ebuyer
A great price for a game changingly fast M.2 NVMe drive. Read speeds over 3,000MB/s and write speeds over 1,700MB/s. Yes, you pay a fair bit more for that speed than you would for a SATA drive, but th… Read More
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6m, 3w agoFound 6 months, 3 weeks ago
A great price for a game changingly fast M.2 NVMe drive. Read speeds over 3,000MB/s and write speeds over 1,700MB/s. Yes, you pay a fair bit more for that speed than you would for a SATA drive, but then you're buying the supercar of SSD drives at a mere sportscar price. (Check that your motherboard or laptop supports the M.2 format.)

Here's a review of the drive (headline: "PC Storage Just Got Sexy") that emphasizes just how ludicrously quick it is:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2016/11/15/samsung-960-evo-m-2-ssd-review-pc-storage-just-got-sexy/#3de2ce609661

And here's another recent review where the drive won an Editor's Choice award:
http://techreport.com/review/30993/samsung-960-evo-ssd-reviewed
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1 Like #1
still waiting on the 960 pro
2 Likes #2
Your mobo must support m.2 pcie 3.0x4 nvme to get these speeds
2 Likes #3
£196.85 through flubit elite if anyone interested.
#4
hot.
11 Likes #5
Avoid ebuyer like the plague. Nice price - zero customer service
#6
Quick question about these M.2's - WHY?

Can you really notice a difference between this and say an 850 SATA III drive?
#7
johnthehuman
Quick question about these M.2's - WHY?

Can you really notice a difference between this and say an 850 SATA III drive?


a lot of laptops - mine included - use this half width drive size.
#8
£200 for 500Gb though. Ouch.
#9
robodan918
still waiting on the 960 pro


You can pre-order 960 Pro at Amazon now - £274.61 for 512GB - sounds like a great price to me.
#10
johnthehuman
Quick question about these M.2's - WHY?
Can you really notice a difference between this and say an 850 SATA III drive?

Also curious about this, would I notice any "real world" performance difference between this and my current Samsung 850 Evo sata 3 SSD... let me rephrase that, would I notice enough to justify the cost of this upgrade incl. buying a new board to support pcie 3.0x4 nvme. Now I heard there are boards with 2 or 3 slots to raid these drives.
#11
Was considering one of these but its a great deal of money extra only for a read speed improvement. Gonna wait
#12
iLikeDiscount
johnthehuman
Quick question about these M.2's - WHY?
Can you really notice a difference between this and say an 850 SATA III drive?

Also curious about this, would I notice any "real world" performance difference between this and my current Samsung 850 Evo sata 3 SSD... let me rephrase that, would I notice enough to justify the cost of this upgrade incl. buying a new board to support pcie 3.0x4 nvme. Now I heard there are boards with 2 or 3 slots to raid these drives.


Not really, got the 1tb version and cpu constrained for most tasks.
#13
If anyone is running a Z97 board or lower, consider grabbing one of these to obtain the maximum performance of this storage:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-hyper-m.2-x4-pci-e-mini-adapter-card-black-pcb-hd-032-as.html
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iLikeDiscount
johnthehuman
Quick question about these M.2's - WHY?
Can you really notice a difference between this and say an 850 SATA III drive?
Also curious about this, would I notice any "real world" performance difference between this and my current Samsung 850 Evo sata 3 SSD... let me rephrase that, would I notice enough to justify the cost of this upgrade incl. buying a new board to support pcie 3.0x4 nvme. Now I heard there are boards with 2 or 3 slots to raid these drives.

Just going by the review posted by the OP, then no, you won’t see much performance increase compared to the premium price. Look at page 5 of the Techreport review, most scores are so close you wouldn't noticed a blind bit of difference.
http://techreport.com/review/30993/samsung-960-evo-ssd-reviewed/5

Edited By: roycom on Nov 30, 2016 15:14
#15
I don't see this as a possible sata "upgrade" but for anyone with a smaller m.2 drive in their laptop it's good to see the price of these dropping
#16
Not sure why you'd want 3,000MB/s+ read speed. Realistically is e-peen waggling at it's worst.

ANY SSD (even the cheapest Sandisk or Crucial) will give you benefits far and beyond your wildest dreams* compared to an old fashioned spinning HDD. Short of some pretty heavy enterprise data work, I can't imagine justifying the cost of a new mobo plus one of these.

*(not quite)
#17
You will see great improvements on boot speed. installs etc game loading for an example, its lightening. Faster than a SSD
#18
I have the 256GB version and it's fast, if you generally use your PC you won't see a great difference in speed over ssd but if you do gaming or video editing etc you see the difference.
#19
Is 'changingly' an English word? Of course not, the OP is just being makeupedly.
#20
othen
Is 'changingly' an English word? Of course not, the OP is just being makeupedly.

The expression "game changingly" is used on over 8,000 sites, including in newspaper articles, books etc. It's not in common use, granted, but since English evolves over time based on usage, it's not "wrong" either.

It's true, however, that I would have been better off hyphenating it.

Edited By: Genki on Nov 30, 2016 15:51
#21
Genki
othen
Is 'changingly' an English word? Of course not, the OP is just being makeupedly.
The expression "game changingly" is used on over 8,000 sites, including in newspaper articles, books etc. It's not in common use, granted, but since English evolves over time based on usage, it's not "wrong" either.
It's true, however, that I would have been better off hyphenating it.
:-)
#22
johnthehuman
Can you really notice a difference between this and say an 850 SATA III drive?
Not with most consumer workloads except for copying/moving files.
They give very poor performance per £ unless you use some very demanding software.
So a waste of money for most people.
#23
Genki
A great price for a game changingly fast M.2 NVMe drive ...
... which is not significantly faster than a half decent SATA SSD for most consumer workloads which cost less than half the price .
It does change the game in terms of being very poor value though if you aren't able to access the extra raw performance.
#24
Will this make Dragon NaturallySpeaking faster?
#25
AntC
You will see great improvements on boot speed. installs etc game loading for an example, its lightening. Faster than a SSD

I have a MacBook Pro retina 2016 with 3200 read speed and 2300 write speed according to Crystaldiskmark. Subjectively I haven't noted it to boot super fast, and GTA V still takes ages to load, not a huge difference over PS3. However, I was able to install Windows 10 on bootcamp in a matter of minutes.
2 Likes #26
misa426
Will this make Dragon NaturallySpeaking faster?
Yes, it will make you sounds like Donald Duck on helium.
#27
kevin1961
Avoid ebuyer like the plague. Nice price - zero customer service
Totally agree, returns and general customers service are a mess. If you need something fixed, be prepared for a hell of slow reply support tickets, bad tempered communication and argumentative staff. I spent thousands with them a few years back, now I avoid there store like the plague.

I still voted hot though, I vote based on the deal value, unfortunately not on the customer support.

Edited By: bigsofty on Nov 30, 2016 16:59
#28
taras
Your mobo must support m.2 pcie 3.0x4 nvme to get these speeds
all you need is adapter pcie to m.2
#29
johnthehuman
Quick question about these M.2's - WHY?

Can you really notice a difference between this and say an 850 SATA III drive?
yes you are right you cant notice, i am running 850s raid 0 and sm961, cant feel the difference
#30
soulgod123
taras
Your mobo must support m.2 pcie 3.0x4 nvme to get these speeds
all you need is adapter pcie to m.2
If you want to use it as a Boot drive then your system firmware has to support booting from an NVMe drive in a PCIe slot with an adaptor which most don't allow.
#31
roycom
Just going by the review posted by the OP, then no, you won’t see much performance increase compared to the premium price. Look at page 5 of the Techreport review, most scores are so close you wouldn't noticed a blind bit of difference.http://techreport.com/review/30993/samsung-960-evo-ssd-reviewed/5

Thanks, think I will stick with what I got, now I just need a 4tb or 5tb internal HDD for back ups.
2 Likes #32
Over double the price of a similarly sized SATA drive. These are largely pointless in a desktop system unless you have a very specific need for high bandwidth.

The money you save getting a normal SATA drive would be better spent on any other component rather than this.
#33
bigsofty
kevin1961
Avoid ebuyer like the plague. Nice price - zero customer service
Totally agree, returns and general customers service are a mess. If you need something fixed, be prepared for a hell of slow reply support tickets, bad tempered communication and argumentative staff. I spent thousands with them a few years back, now I avoid there store like the plague.

I still voted hot though, I vote based on the deal value, unfortunately not on the customer support.


I concur, bunch of cowboys and zero customer service. I had an problem with graphic card e.g. random BSOD and artifacts when playing games. Sent the card, they "checked it", and returned it saying there was nothing wrong with the card.
#34
Minstadave
Over double the price of a similarly sized SATA drive. These are largely pointless in a desktop system unless you have a very specific need for high bandwidth.
The money you save getting a normal SATA drive would be better spent on any other component rather than this.
depends, if your getting this you ain't to worried about money you just want a kick ass pc,
Also you notice the difference between HD and SSD, so you would notice difference with this.

HD 50-75mb
SSD 500-600
M.2 3k
Each is 6 ish times faster than the other,

would you notice it in games yeh and no, my friend has the pro and he loads about 15 seconds faster into games in bf4 (ssd 950pro here).but thats all you would notice.

so if your on a budget then i totally agree that you can spend it in better places.

dont amazon have this at the same price?
#35
Scorching hot! If you are building a new system then get one :)
#36
Agharta
soulgod123
taras
Your mobo must support m.2 pcie 3.0x4 nvme to get these speeds
all you need is adapter pcie to m.2
If you want to use it as a Boot drive then your system firmware has to support booting from an NVMe drive in a PCIe slot with an adaptor which most don't allow.


thats a different question for booting it. for me was straight forward with z97
#37
zangetsu19
dont amazon have this at the same price?

No. It's listed as out of stock at Amazon (and was when I first posted this)
#38
Would anyone know if this would work in a Macbook Pro late 2013 a1502?
Thanks
3 Likes #39
You are wrong to compare drives by sequential read/write and assume multiplication of performance. This is entirely wrong and didn't reflect on the real world performance. Firstly you need to compare conventional hard drives versus ssds and then compare the ssd technologies. Suffice to say sequential read/write performance is nowhere near as important as latency and 4K random read/write. So that's the conventional versus ssd. Then sata versus NVMe means you need to compare queue depth, NVMe annihilates SATA for queue depth. The next question is can a consumer user saturate the queue depth of NVMe the straight answer is generally they can't.
#40
All these details are why I linked to two separate reviews in the opening deal post. It's a specialist item, for relatively "specialist" use. But it does have its uses - and for those, it seems cheap at the price.

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