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Samsung 55 inch UE55KU6020 HDR 4K Ultra HD Smart TV,With FREE 5 year warranty,FREE delivery,£599 @ John Lewis £569.00

£569.00 @ John Lewis
Samsung UE55KU6020 HDR 4K Ultra HD Smart TV, 55" with Freeview HD, Playstation Now & PurColour Comes with a free 5 year guarantee and free delivery for £569 at John Lewis Also 5 years accidenta…
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Samsung UE55KU6020 HDR 4K Ultra HD Smart TV, 55" with Freeview HD, Playstation Now & PurColour

Comes with a free 5 year guarantee and free delivery for £569 at John Lewis

Also 5 years accidental warranty can be had for £65 extra
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Biggunspaul
So what you are saying is this is not as good as a top end TV worth £2k+
Next you will be telling us that a £50 note is better than a £5 note

No, im saying that people will be confused why this doesnt play 4K content (even though it says its 4K) much like when people didnt realise why their "HD" TV was running at 720p and not 1080p.

Im saying a 'true' 4K TV starts at around £1,400. That these '4K Compliant' (meaning they meet the bare required minimum standard to be classed as 4K), will be exactly what you pay for.

So merely a warning for people to not expect that John Lewis Showroom experience.

I know, I know, seems foolish sharing experience and knowledge on the website - as most people just like to shoot it down.
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tomlewis007
Not true HDR I guess?
The HDR 10 bit thing ls like the HD Ready vs Full HD arguments of old!
^^This.
Take not people, Fake 4K versus True 4K.Must be 10 bit panel (theres a panel wesbite that confirms, cant remember it off the top of my head - sorry). Plus, it needs to have a HDR thats ideally top end and not junk.

So what you are saying is this is not as good as a top end TV worth £2k+

Next you will be telling us that a £50 note is better than a £5 note
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If you're going to upgrade from 1080p to 4k, don't bother with these cheap panels, you will only be left disappointed.

Either treat yourself to an OLED HDR 4k, or if on a budget maybe a FALD LED, and if even more on a budget then an edge lit quantum dot, and not these cheap rubbish bottom lit led 8 bit panels (or 8 bit with dithering. )

You will only be kidding yourself that you have a good 4k tv

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1 Like #1
8k Ram pack?
#2
Good price! This was £650+ not long ago. I personally would not commit to this sort of price of a 4k tv until next year when 4k content is more available (downloads, games, blurays) and the tech is better. Hot for the price though.
1 Like #3
50 inch one available at Currys for £449-but without 5 year guarantee. Not sure how much difference 5 inches makes(on aTV) but it can't be that much
1 Like #4
dutch090163
50 inch one available at Currys for £449-but without 5 year guarantee. Not sure how much difference 5 inches makes(on aTV) but it can't be that much

It works out at quite a bit screen size
3 Likes #5
dutch090163
50 inch one available at Currys for £449-but without 5 year guarantee. Not sure how much difference 5 inches makes(on aTV) but it can't be that much

Now there talks a person who has never held a 55 incher in their hands
2 Likes #6
Same price at richersounds with 6 year warranty

Edited By: pavel76 on Nov 22, 2016 09:35
#7
pavel76
Same price at richersounds wit 6 year warranty

Only problem is that the TV is only available in store,which is ok if you have a store that has it in stock and is close by.
#8
any one found a decent review for this or at least a close spec one , which I gather would be ku6000? Ive had a look but I'm clearly useless as I found nothing.
1 Like #9
Would this be worth upgrading from a Panasonic G20 plasma.?
1 Like #10
millward84
Would this be worth upgrading from a Panasonic G20 plasma.?

In exactly the same boat had my G20 6 years and looking into 4K but seems like a minefield :P
1 Like #11
Not true HDR I guess?

The HDR 10 bit thing ls like the HD Ready vs Full HD arguments of old!
6 Likes #12
If you're going to upgrade from 1080p to 4k, don't bother with these cheap panels, you will only be left disappointed.

Either treat yourself to an OLED HDR 4k, or if on a budget maybe a FALD LED, and if even more on a budget then an edge lit quantum dot, and not these cheap rubbish bottom lit led 8 bit panels (or 8 bit with dithering. )

You will only be kidding yourself that you have a good 4k tv
1 Like #13
tomlewis007
Not true HDR I guess?
The HDR 10 bit thing ls like the HD Ready vs Full HD arguments of old!

^^This.

Take not people, Fake 4K versus True 4K.

Must be 10 bit panel (theres a panel wesbite that confirms, cant remember it off the top of my head - sorry). Plus, it needs to have a HDR thats ideally top end and not junk.
#14
millward84
Would this be worth upgrading from a Panasonic G20 plasma.?


I'm in the boat too. Over the past 7 years not one to seems better than my old plasma. But now these 4K TVs do look good. But I'm thinking you'll need to get a top quality one to really see the upgrade from such a good plasma.
13 Likes #15
Silhouette
tomlewis007
Not true HDR I guess?
The HDR 10 bit thing ls like the HD Ready vs Full HD arguments of old!
^^This.
Take not people, Fake 4K versus True 4K.Must be 10 bit panel (theres a panel wesbite that confirms, cant remember it off the top of my head - sorry). Plus, it needs to have a HDR thats ideally top end and not junk.

So what you are saying is this is not as good as a top end TV worth £2k+

Next you will be telling us that a £50 note is better than a £5 note
1 Like #16
so are there any good deals for the 10 bit panel ones? it doesn't seem to say on the website if they are 8 or 10 bit :|
17 Likes #17
Biggunspaul
So what you are saying is this is not as good as a top end TV worth £2k+
Next you will be telling us that a £50 note is better than a £5 note

No, im saying that people will be confused why this doesnt play 4K content (even though it says its 4K) much like when people didnt realise why their "HD" TV was running at 720p and not 1080p.

Im saying a 'true' 4K TV starts at around £1,400. That these '4K Compliant' (meaning they meet the bare required minimum standard to be classed as 4K), will be exactly what you pay for.

So merely a warning for people to not expect that John Lewis Showroom experience.

I know, I know, seems foolish sharing experience and knowledge on the website - as most people just like to shoot it down.
#18
landofdan
so are there any good deals for the 10 bit panel ones? it doesn't seem to say on the website if they are 8 or 10 bit :|

Unfortunately, this is 8-bit, so would not be capable of getting the full spectrum of 4k colour palette.
http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/0a9b784

I personally cant see the difference between 1080p and the bare minimum standard 4Ks.

Some scenes in some things make you think "Oh, look at that!" but its a rarity.

If you're making the jump of a new TV, its worth putting the extra in to ensure its future proof for at least 12 months :)
1 Like #19
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Biggunspaul
So what you are saying is this is not as good as a top end TV worth £2k+
Next you will be telling us that a £50 note is better than a £5 note
No, im saying that people will be confused why this doesnt play 4K content (even though it says its 4K) much like when people didnt realise why their "HD" TV was running at 720p and not 1080p.
Im saying a 'true' 4K TV starts at around £1,400. That these '4K Compliant' (meaning they meet the bare required minimum standard to be classed as 4K), will be exactly what you pay for.
So merely a warning for people to not expect that John Lewis Showroom experience.
I know, I know, seems foolish sharing experience and knowledge on the website - as most people just like to shoot it down.

But you didn't say all that,you've only just said it.

So what happens if you plug a 4K blu ray player into this tv then if it doesn't play 4K,and the same goes for a PlayStation pro,and Netflix 4K ?
1 Like #20
landofdan
so are there any good deals for the 10 bit panel ones? it doesn't seem to say on the website if they are 8 or 10 bit :|


​There's really good deal if you can afford spend 899. Samsung KS7000 on John Lewis. It has everything what you need to fully entertain yourself :) Paid for it 1099 about 8 weeks ago and honestly it is awesome. Check it yourself!
#21
landofdan
so are there any good deals for the 10 bit panel ones? it doesn't seem to say on the website if they are 8 or 10 bit :|

KS7000 is the only option and it's £900~. If you aren't spending close to a grand, it ain't 10 bit. Apart from that one crappy LG.
#22
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Biggunspaul
So what you are saying is this is not as good as a top end TV worth £2k+
Next you will be telling us that a £50 note is better than a £5 note

No, im saying that people will be confused why this doesnt play 4K content (even though it says its 4K) much like when people didnt realise why their "HD" TV was running at 720p and not 1080p.

Im saying a 'true' 4K TV starts at around £1,400. That these '4K Compliant' (meaning they meet the bare required minimum standard to be classed as 4K), will be exactly what you pay for.

So merely a warning for people to not expect that John Lewis Showroom experience.

I know, I know, seems foolish sharing experience and knowledge on the website - as most people just like to shoot it down.


​i get why this isn't hdr 10... but why isn't it 4k (or infact UHD)?
2 Likes #23
jayjayuk1234
If you're going to upgrade from 1080p to 4k, don't bother with these cheap panels, you will only be left disappointed.
Either treat yourself to an OLED HDR 4k, or if on a budget maybe a FALD LED, and if even more on a budget then an edge lit quantum dot, and not these cheap rubbish bottom lit led 8 bit panels (or 8 bit with dithering. )
You will only be kidding yourself that you have a good 4k tv
so somebody on a budget of of £500-£600 looking for 49"-55" should buy???
You've clearly identified that there are people out there who get bought into the marketing whizz and don't have the technical know-how but you've gone and bamboozled them with more technical wizadry.


Edited By: loofer on Nov 22, 2016 11:49
#24
nutterburger
​i get why this isn't hdr 10... but why isn't it 4k (or infact UHD)?

Because the 8-bit panel cant support it. Yes its "UHD", but you'll see that Samsung do "UHD" (bare minimum) and SUHD, which is their all singing all dancing quantum dot stuff.

Same with LG, they do their 4K LED, but their true all singing is OLED.

My old Sony 4K didnt even have HDR, so it looked 'basic'. I would literally get a scene every now and then that looked alright... but I dont know if that was my mind (or my wallet) making me see extra detail!

So it needs HDR, but apparently there are now varying degrees of that too.

Needs to be a 10-bit panel too. Thats pretty much the two basics to look for.
#25
The KS trumps the KU is a good guide.

Like the EG/EF trumps the UF/UF in terms of LG.

Id love there to be a table, sorted by quality, so you can see a true bargain when it comes up.
#26
Isn't the Hisense M5500 series 10bit?
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nutterburger
​i get why this isn't hdr 10... but why isn't it 4k (or infact UHD)?
Because the 8-bit panel cant support it. Yes its "UHD", but you'll see that Samsung do "UHD" (bare minimum) and SUHD, which is their all singing all dancing quantum dot stuff.
Same with LG, they do their 4K LED, but their true all singing is OLED.
My old Sony 4K didnt even have HDR, so it looked 'basic'. I would literally get a scene every now and then that looked alright... but I dont know if that was my mind (or my wallet) making me see extra detail!
So it needs HDR, but apparently there are now varying degrees of that too.
Needs to be a 10-bit panel too. Thats pretty much the two basics to look for.

I think you are confusing people and yourself between 4K and HDR.

You said it's a bit like the days when people were confused between HD and full HD,that was a difference in resolution,yet this is a 4K tv and it can display display a 4K image,so it is not a FAKE 4K image.

The difference between this and an expensive 4K to is the quality of the HDR,and HDR is not a resolution.
1 Like #28
Biggunspaul
You said it's a bit like the days when people were confused between HD and full HD,that was a difference in resolution,yet this is a 4K tv and it can display display a 4K image,so it is not a FAKE 4K image.

Thats the problem, it is. Watching a 4K image on this will be the "720p" of 4K. It wont look like the fully fledged "1080p" 4K that you'll see in every demo model of everything being demoed at every store.

I found out the hard way, but thinking 4K was 4K.

If you had a 10-bit panel with no/poor HDR, it would still be noticeably different.

For that 'True' experience of what people are looking for (like the sticky labels on the UHD discs now say) you really need the full HDR colour spectrum of colour and brightness to see the difference.

Its just not worth buying an 'Entry Level' 4K TV at the moment.
#29
tomlewis007
Isn't the Hisense M5500 series 10bit?

Yes, apparently it is. People also seem to forget Hisense is one of (if not the top) selling 4K device in China.
#30
Biggunspaul
I think you are confusing people and yourself between 4K and HDR.

Having spent the last couple of weeks rigorously reading reviews, getting advice and buying my own 'True' 4K TV in replacement of my old 'Fake' 4K Sony TV - I feel I am comfortably up to speed at what to look for

(And what pitfalls to avoid!)

Its all about managing expectations!
#31
Here's my thread http://www.hotukdeals.com/ask/sony-65-4k-going-back-need-a-replacement-oled-super-quick-suggestions-many-thanks-2546938

Ended up going for the 65KS8000 (you can get the 65KS9000, which is just the same set but curved for £1,400 now).

Its the closest thing to the B6 (OLED) but was £400 cheaper and 10" bigger.
#32
Silhouette
(you can get the 65KS9000, which is just the same set but curved for £1,400 now).

Apologies, its £1500 and a Refurb, but still a great price with warranty.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAMSUNG-UE65KS9000-Smart-4k-Ultra-HD-HDR-65-Curved-LED-TV-/142134087117?hash=item2117da0dcd:g:kDYAAOSwCGVX7oJf
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Biggunspaul
You said it's a bit like the days when people were confused between HD and full HD,that was a difference in resolution,yet this is a 4K tv and it can display display a 4K image,so it is not a FAKE 4K image.
Thats the problem, it is. Watching a 4K image on this will be the "720p" of 4K. It wont look like the fully fledged "1080p" 4K that you'll see in every demo model of everything being demoed at every store.
I found out the hard way, but thinking 4K was 4K.
If you had a 10-bit panel with no/poor HDR, it would still be noticeably different.
For that 'True' experience of what people are looking for (like the sticky labels on the UHD discs now say) you really need the full HDR colour spectrum of colour and brightness to see the difference.
Its just not worth buying an 'Entry Level' 4K TV at the moment.

But it's still a resolution of 4K,and so not fake at all.

As I already said it's the HDR that makes the difference between this and more expensive models,but that's going to cost people significantly more money.

Still confused to why you say this won't play 4K content ? what happens if you try,does it come up on the screen - sorry you need to spend £2k to display this image
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Biggunspaul
I think you are confusing people and yourself between 4K and HDR.
Having spent the last couple of weeks rigorously reading reviews, getting advice and buying my own 'True' 4K TV in replacement of my old 'Fake' 4K Sony TV - I feel I am comfortably up to speed at what to look for
(And what pitfalls to avoid!)
Its all about managing expectations!

So after weeks of research you have come to the conclusion that if you spend 3 times as much as this deal on a TV it will have better image quality.

I'm doing research into which is better,a one bedroom council flat or a 10 bed luxury villa.

I will post my findings in a few weeks time.
#35
Proper 10bit HDR will make a bigger difference to viewing than simply going from 1080p to 4k.

If you're going from a high end sony set from 4-5 years ago to an 8bit £600 uhd set expecting to be blown away like when you went from CRT, you'll be disappointed.

At least it isn't one of those sh*tty rgbw screens - bigger scandal than PPI.
2 Likes #36
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Biggunspaul
You said it's a bit like the days when people were confused between HD and full HD,that was a difference in resolution,yet this is a 4K tv and it can display display a 4K image,so it is not a FAKE 4K image.
Thats the problem, it is. Watching a 4K image on this will be the "720p" of 4K. It wont look like the fully fledged "1080p" 4K that you'll see in every demo model of everything being demoed at every store.
I found out the hard way, but thinking 4K was 4K.
If you had a 10-bit panel with no/poor HDR, it would still be noticeably different.
For that 'True' experience of what people are looking for (like the sticky labels on the UHD discs now say) you really need the full HDR colour spectrum of colour and brightness to see the difference.
Its just not worth buying an 'Entry Level' 4K TV at the moment.

You've got yourself right confused.

A £2k 1080p TV was nearly always better than an £500 1080p TV. There were always different panel qualities, lighting and everything else which had an impact on picture quality.

Unlike 720/1080, a 4K TV can display a 4K picture at the right resolution.

We have exactly the same difference of a £2k TV being better than a £500 TV - because they go for a 10-bit panel which supports HDR. And that's before you get into HDR10 vs Dolby Vision.

What you really should be saying is that the panel resolution is not (and has never) dictated the quality of the picture. We just now have things formalised a bit more with HDR (HDR10/Dolby Vision) and 8/10 bit panels. HDR just means the brightness and contrast can reach certain extremes which are used to give a better picture, which again comes back to having a different (better) panel.
1 Like #37
loofer
jayjayuk1234
If you're going to upgrade from 1080p to 4k, don't bother with these cheap panels, you will only be left disappointed.
Either treat yourself to an OLED HDR 4k, or if on a budget maybe a FALD LED, and if even more on a budget then an edge lit quantum dot, and not these cheap rubbish bottom lit led 8 bit panels (or 8 bit with dithering. )
You will only be kidding yourself that you have a good 4k tv
so somebody on a budget of of £500-£600 looking for 49"-55" should buy???
You've clearly identified that there are people out there who get bought into the marketing whizz and don't have the technical know-how but you've gone and bamboozled them with more technical wizadry.

If you have a budget of £500 - £600, you may as well stick with your 1080p TV! - or Buy a better 1080p TV!

There really is no major rush to go 4K quite yet, and certainly not one of these budget range, there is still only a small amount of 4k content, 90% of the time my 4k TV is displaying 1080i or lower.

I've seen so many poor 4kTV's that are worse quality than a good HDTV!





Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Nov 22, 2016 13:07
2 Likes #38
loofer
jayjayuk1234
If you're going to upgrade from 1080p to 4k, don't bother with these cheap panels, you will only be left disappointed.
Either treat yourself to an OLED HDR 4k, or if on a budget maybe a FALD LED, and if even more on a budget then an edge lit quantum dot, and not these cheap rubbish bottom lit led 8 bit panels (or 8 bit with dithering. )
You will only be kidding yourself that you have a good 4k tv
so somebody on a budget of of £500-£600 looking for 49"-55" should buy???
You've clearly identified that there are people out there who get bought into the marketing whizz and don't have the technical know-how but you've gone and bamboozled them with more technical wizadry.

You can't get HDR on that budget. You can get a mediocre entry level 4K.

Panasonic DX700B was the one I settled on for a short while but found out it has poor motion rate and input lag which is important for sports and gaming. There's the LG but that has a light dimming issue that would do my head in. These Samsungs i'm not sure. Probably better than the competition but having seen true HDR i'm going for the KS7000 any day now.
#39
I'm not sure at what point I said this TV can't play 4K content...

And then everyone digging me out is just reinforcing my point about the differences between entry level 4K TVs and actual showroom/what people think 4K should look like.

But I've noticed who the OP is and hence why you're taking it so personally.

Alas, enjoy your 4K content.
#40
Silhouette
I'm not sure at what point I said this TV can't play 4K content...
And then everyone digging me out is just reinforcing my point about the differences between entry level 4K TVs and actual showroom/what people think 4K should look like.
But I've noticed who the OP is and hence why you're taking it so personally.
Alas, enjoy your 4K content.

In post 17 you said - im saying that people will be confused why this doesnt play 4K content

So maybe it was at that point you said it ;)

And what do you mean by you noticed who I am and to why I'm taking it personally?

All I'm doing is trying to correct what you are saying that is incorrect,what is wrong with that ? :|

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