Samsung Galaxy Note - Handset purchase - £452 (£342 after cashback - possibly £302*) @ O2 - HotUKDeals
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*** Quidco withdrew the £110 cashback offer last night one week early! Current cashback levels around £50 from TCB and Quidco. Am waiting to see if TCB reintroduce their £110 offer by Tuesday lunchtime (20th). If no new big offer starts I will expire this deal. FWIW O2 have also just REDUCED the upfront payment from £199.99 to £179.99 ***

O2 have a cheap contract price on the Samsung Galaxy Note. You can buy the Note on a very basic tariff for £199.99 down and 24 x £10.50 (after removing the data bolt on). That's a total cost of £452.

Cashback of £110.00 is available from Quidco until midnight Sunday 25th March. That takes the cost to £341.99 for the handset (and you can throw/give away the basic tariff/SIM.....)

*if you terminate and pay off the contract in one go after 1 month you MIGHT be able to save a further £40.25 on the contract cost (effectively save the VAT on the last 23 months of £10.50). This is standard practice with many mobile phone companies (i.e. to not charge VAT on the service you don't receive). HOWEVER there seems to be VERY conflicting information from O2 on what they actually do and people's experiences of what they're charged are very mixed.....

(Please note that whilst you are actually purchasing the Note on an O2 contract THIS IS SIMPLY A WAY TO GET THE HANDSET CHEAPLY TO USE WITH THE SIM OF YOUR CHOICE!)

The steps to get this deal are:-
1) Go to Quidco's O2 page - http://www.quidco.com/o2-paym-handset-contracts/
2) "Click through" to O2 and order the Note on a 2 year contract with 50mins, 250 texts and 100MB data (@ £13.50/mo). Pay the £199.99 upfront fee.
3) Wait for the phone to arrive....
4) Contact Customer Service or My O2 and remove the data bolt on. Contract cost is now reduced to £10.50.
5) Insert the SIM of your choice into the phone and check it's unlocked. They all have been so far. If not then you need to contact O2 for an unlock code (usually FOC); OR buy a code from a 3rd party specialist; OR consider returning the phone....
6) Bite your fingernails and wait for the cashback to track (typically the 4th business day after placing your order ). Your nerves may be further frazzled because the cashback might initially track at £0.....(!)
7) Wait a few weeks for your cashback to be confirmed (hopefully at the right level!). Call O2 and cancel your contract. You will be charged on the remaining months at £10.50/mo. There MAY also be a further discount equivalent to the VAT component. If you pay off 23 months in this way the cost could be £201.25 (a saving of £40.25).
8) Collect your £110+ of cashback....

Your total cost is therefore £451.99, less cashback, less any VAT relief you might get for termination. That should be no more than £341.99.

The main risks with this approach:-
(1) Can you remove the data bolt on? Data is a flexible bolt-on with O2 and can be changed every month if you wish. However you'll know within the cancellation period (14 days after receipt of Note) if O2 suddenly stop this. Assuming you do this your MAXIMUM cost is £199.99 + 24 x £10.50 = £451.99, which is a pretty good price for a UK sourced Note.
(2) Is the handset locked? So far the handsets have all been unlocked. Even if locked, O2 are typically good about providing unlock codes FOC. Again, you'd know if the handset was locked and if O2 were refusing to provide an unlock code within the cancellation period (14 days). You could also go to a 3rd party unlocker for a code at a cost of £10-ish.
(3) Will cashback pay? Always a risk, but TCB/Quidco and O2 should be reliable. O2 tracking stats are good. The biggest risk is it not tracking at the beginning. It might take 4/5 business days to track, but you'd know within the cancellation period if it didn't....
(4) Will O2 give you the 20% off (VAT) for terminating? This is the the biggest risk. Opinion, O2 guidance and people's experiences are very mixed. The risk is £40.25. Probably best to view this as a nice bonus if you get it!

The bottom line is that this should cost no more than £451.99 (good deal), will probably cost you £342 (hot!), or possibly £302 (smoking!)



IN ADDITION: You can get £120 worth of free stuff AND 10% off BA Flights by simply registering your new Note at:- http://tiny.cc/galaxynote
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suspended#1
This is not a Hand set only this combination of tablet too!
#2
good one
#3
when you terminate with o2, you have to pay the vat
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Orcinus_orca
when you terminate with o2, you have to pay the vat


Here is part of a transcript from a recent chat I had with O2.....

Mark: Thanks. Whilst you are doing that can you also tell me if VAT is payable on termination costs? Thx
O2: Yes, you'll be charged the termination cost including VAT charges.
Mark: I was told by another mobile company that VAT is not chargeable on early termination, so I'm a bit confused now! Sorry!
O2: Don't be confused, I'm unable to comment on the another service provider's but you'll be charged VAT charges on your termination charges.
O2: Yes, if you terminate your contract and settle the payment in one go then you get 20% discount on the termination charges.
Mark: Ha! that'll be the VAT then :-)
O2: Please give me a few minutes, I'll quickly check this for you.
Mark: Thank you for the clarification. I really appreciate it!
O2: Thanks for waiting.
O2: Yes, if you settle the amount in one go then we remove the VAT charges from the termination charges.
#5
they are wrong, phone them up and ask

Edited By: Orcinus_orca on Feb 14, 2012 11:42
1 Like #6
Orcinus_orca
they are wrong, phone them up and ask

Phoning up will do nothing, you'll get 3 different answers on 3 different cs calls, at least you now have an emailed transcript, whether the contents are accurate or not, they will have to honour the 20% discount - you have the evidence, can't see how they'll wriggle out of it - phone calls are useless unless you can record the conversation yourself (ironically this is a feature of my galaxy note's current rom, I can record all my conversations, I tell the operator that at the start of the call :D )
#7
Orcinus_orca
they are wrong, phone them up and ask

OK have just made some calls to Customer Services.

Business CS say that VAT is payable and that you cannot change the data bolt on, so you are liable for the full cost as you state.

HOWEVER, Consumer CS say that you can increase, decrease or remove the data bolt on at any time and that you are not liable for the VAT on a one-off termination payment.....

Edited By: qyestionmark on Feb 14, 2012 12:06
#8
qyestionmark
Orcinus_orca
when you terminate with o2, you have to pay the vat


Here is part of a transcript from a recent chat I had with O2.....

Mark: Thanks. Whilst you are doing that can you also tell me if VAT is payable on termination costs? Thx
O2: Yes, you'll be charged the termination cost including VAT charges.
Mark: I was told by another mobile company that VAT is not chargeable on early termination, so I'm a bit confused now! Sorry!
O2: Don't be confused, I'm unable to comment on the another service provider's but you'll be charged VAT charges on your termination charges.
O2: Yes, if you terminate your contract and settle the payment in one go then you get 20% discount on the termination charges.
Mark: Ha! that'll be the VAT then :-)
O2: Please give me a few minutes, I'll quickly check this for you.
Mark: Thank you for the clarification. I really appreciate it!
O2: Thanks for waiting.
O2: Yes, if you settle the amount in one go then we remove the VAT charges from the termination charges.


Confused!

I just called O2 (202 from mobile) and they are adamant that I will be charged the full amount including VAT to settle 13 months early. I then asked ok is there a discount given to customers who wish to terminate and pay-off their contract early? Sorry no was the reply.
#9
could i do that with a galaxy s2?

£21.50 a month - bolt on = £15.50 p/m

after first month terminate contract and pay the 23 months off together.

£15.50 p/m * 23 = £356.50

20% off = £356.50 - £71.30 = £285.20

£15.50 + 285.20 = £300.70

if you minus the quidco = £250.70

correct me if im wrong please.
#10
Would look silly answering one of these its like a tab
#11
Here this is confirmed. I once called them to cancel one of my O2 contract and yes I paid the full amount. I asked about the VAT thing and they said they don't give any discount. If you take this deal be aware you don't get any 20% discount. And customer service do purposely lie to you sometimes to fob you off. I.e. they tell you what you want to hear so they can move on to the next customer.
#12
becknise
Here this is confirmed. I once called them to cancel one of my O2 contract and yes I paid the full amount. I asked about the VAT thing and they said they don't give any discount. If you take this deal be aware you don't get any 20% discount. And customer service do purposely lie to you sometimes to fob you off. I.e. they tell you what you want to hear so they can move on to the next customer.


what if i save the conversation? wouldn't they have to as they lied?
#13
abzzyy
could i do that with a galaxy s2?

£21.50 a month - bolt on = £15.50 p/m

after first month terminate contract and pay the 23 months off together.

£15.50 p/m * 23 = £356.50

20% off = £356.50 - £71.30 = £285.20

£15.50 + 285.20 = £300.70

if you minus the quidco = £250.70

correct me if im wrong please.


Well, I would be hesitant in doing anything regards modifying the contract until the cash-back has been paid (~ 10 weeks) Also as I mentioned above, unless I'm mistaken, O2 want the full cost to cancel early.
#14
abzzyy
becknise
Here this is confirmed. I once called them to cancel one of my O2 contract and yes I paid the full amount. I asked about the VAT thing and they said they don't give any discount. If you take this deal be aware you don't get any 20% discount. And customer service do purposely lie to you sometimes to fob you off. I.e. they tell you what you want to hear so they can move on to the next customer.


what if i save the conversation? wouldn't they have to as they lied?

Then you'll have a strong case against them. But still I'll be careful.
#15
abzzyy
becknise
Here this is confirmed. I once called them to cancel one of my O2 contract and yes I paid the full amount. I asked about the VAT thing and they said they don't give any discount. If you take this deal be aware you don't get any 20% discount. And customer service do purposely lie to you sometimes to fob you off. I.e. they tell you what you want to hear so they can move on to the next customer.


what if i save the conversation? wouldn't they have to as they lied?


haha, of course not, they don't have to do anything
#16
Shame it's not the white version too :(
#17
I seriously considered the Galaxy Note before going for an iPhone 4S. I decided against it because I just thought "yes, maybe this is too big" but I still love it and this is a HOT HOT HOT price.
#18
If they charge you any fee in relation to UK goods and services it attracts VAT....simples....you CAN'T get a discount from VAT...it's a tax......
Of course that's not to say they'll not give you a similar discount......
e.g. if you get charged £100 + £20 VAT and they charge you £100 for it... they've actually charged you £83.33 + VAT (save a penny.....)


Edited By: aeonf242 on Feb 14, 2012 14:42
#19
HOT
#20
I bought this phone as soon as it came out. I got it on a previous deal thread from Amazon in Germany. The most fantastic phone and I'd chop my arm off rather than be without it now.
#21
Hot, but its a big piece of kit.
Cant wait for ice cream!!!
#22
Just bought one for £220 + cash from selling my Galaxy S2 for £280.. love the note, great piece of kit, its not that big really, I think the likes of the iphone are just too small!... Now, mobiles in the 80's.. they were big!



Edited By: DrHotUK on Feb 14, 2012 15:25
#23
I've got a Note & love it, like all good things you quickly get used to its size.
#24
What are the chances of seeing a similar deal to the one phones4u had? I believe it was £250 after all cashbacks and everything?

Edited By: jhonny20041433 on Feb 14, 2012 15:31
#25
This phone is simply amazing, I would say best on the market at the moment... after a few weeks it doesnt seem that big, iphones seem like baby's toys. You might get a people thinking they are original with a few dom jolly jokes, but for everything other than making calls, it is pretty much the best all round and portable experience.

ICS due soon, fits in your pockets no problem, super fast, decent battery and expandable micro sd upto a total of 48gb (inc 16gb on board).

Bought mine in november for circa £470 at amazon.de - no regrets whatsoever
#26
March 1st I believe for ICS - GS2/NOTE
banned#27
im looking for an iphone 4, not the s model, and its still too expensive :( anyone got any deals or info on em then please do post em up.
#28
Nathan94
March 1st I believe for ICS - GS2/NOTE

Rumoured I'm afraid :( we shall see though!!!

Great device though :D


Edited By: jaybear88 on Feb 14, 2012 15:50: .
#29
Dan777
im looking for an iphone 4, not the s model, and its still too expensive :( anyone got any deals or info on em then please do post em up.

Hi Dan, I think you're probably quite new so we'll be nice ;) Try posting that comment in apple based threads or the misc section. There's quite alot of rivalry between the android/iOS camps so you might get some backlash by posting in an android thread, especially on a product that breaks the typical mold that apple sets.
banned#30
jaybear88
Dan777
im looking for an iphone 4, not the s model, and its still too expensive :( anyone got any deals or info on em then please do post em up.
Hi Dan, I think you're probably quite new so we'll be nice ;) Try posting that comment in apple based threads or the misc section. There's quite alot of rivalry between the android/iOS camps so you might get some backlash by posting in an android thread, especially on a product that breaks the typical mold that apple sets.

thanks for the advice, will check that out.
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Dan777
jaybear88
Dan777
im looking for an iphone 4, not the s model, and its still too expensive :( anyone got any deals or info on em then please do post em up.
Hi Dan, I think you're probably quite new so we'll be nice ;) Try posting that comment in apple based threads or the misc section. There's quite alot of rivalry between the android/iOS camps so you might get some backlash by posting in an android thread, especially on a product that breaks the typical mold that apple sets.


thanks for the advice, will check that out.

See that everyone?? Android and iOS users can live in peace and harmony! :D
1 Like #32
if you see the sony erickson play phone thread then you will see the handsets been locked and O2 has refused to unlock for loads of customers. thats a risk unless you want to use O2 or others who piggy back on their signal.

I also have bought a note and if this works then it is a cracking deal. Its a great phone. Use the http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1346 thread on tips and tricks for this phone to learn some more tips on using this phone. Any other phone seems like a toy now and will only upgrade to the note2 now. Ignore the people who say too big. Once you use it you will quickly like the size. If you use the phone mainly for browsing, gaming or remote desk top access and apps then you will love the phone. Phone call audio quality is great. GPS is awesome and beats my tomtom anyday. Photos, videos, games, editing, frame grabbing, etc etc is great too. I use the flip case and find it minimalistic and protects the screen (i have accidentally dropped it atleast 6 times on to hard floor and it has survived without a scratch luckily). but having the flip case on causes issues using the official desk dock and card dock unfortunately but i dont need them and there are other alternatives available.

USB OTG and MHL features are nice too. see youtube videos by nztechfreak and mobiletechreview or androidnz.net or gsmarena for useful reviews on this phone.

Edited By: bubblesmoney on Feb 14, 2012 16:04
#33
not sure why so hot? COLD from me, not worth the risk for a few pennys. Get one from amazon.de sim free unless you want O2 to rip you off.
#34
I'm getting one from buymobilephones.net delivered tomorrow. £27 a month, free phone and can remove the £6 data bolt on if needed. not a bad price in my books. have the choice of black or white too
#35
aeonf242
If they charge you any fee in relation to UK goods and services it attracts VAT....simples....you CAN'T get a discount from VAT...it's a tax......
Of course that's not to say they'll not give you a similar discount......
e.g. if you get charged £100 + £20 VAT and they charge you £100 for it... they've actually charged you £83.33 + VAT (save a penny.....)


Surely you have just contradicted yourself. If you terminate early you are not being provided with a service hence no VAT is applicable. I have had this previously and have argued to black and blue with them and they refuse to give the VAT back but when the bill was produced it clearly states the price excluding VAT
#36
helpingabrotherout
aeonf242
If they charge you any fee in relation to UK goods and services it attracts VAT....simples....you CAN'T get a discount from VAT...it's a tax......
Of course that's not to say they'll not give you a similar discount......
e.g. if you get charged £100 + £20 VAT and they charge you £100 for it... they've actually charged you £83.33 + VAT (save a penny.....)



Surely you have just contradicted yourself. If you terminate early you are not being provided with a service hence no VAT is applicable. I have had this previously and have argued to black and blue with them and they refuse to give the VAT back but when the bill was produced it clearly states the price excluding VAT


When I called earlier, the advisor quoted me £175.50 payable to pay off the contract (13 months left)

I pay £13.50 p/m x 13 = £175.50
#37
zermattbusby
helpingabrotherout
aeonf242
If they charge you any fee in relation to UK goods and services it attracts VAT....simples....you CAN'T get a discount from VAT...it's a tax......
Of course that's not to say they'll not give you a similar discount......
e.g. if you get charged £100 + £20 VAT and they charge you £100 for it... they've actually charged you £83.33 + VAT (save a penny.....)


Surely you have just contradicted yourself. If you terminate early you are not being provided with a service hence no VAT is applicable. I have had this previously and have argued to black and blue with them and they refuse to give the VAT back but when the bill was produced it clearly states the price excluding VAT

When I called earlier, the advisor quoted me £175.50 payable to pay off the contract (13 months left)

I pay £13.50 p/m x 13 = £175.50

i think it is because the advisor's dont seem to be to clued up but when my final bill came through with the amount payable it was excluding VAT
#38
andy182
I'm getting one from buymobilephones.net delivered tomorrow. £27 a month, free phone and can remove the £6 data bolt on if needed. not a bad price in my books. have the choice of black or white too


Really? So even though you buy the device on the basis that you are entering into a £27pcm contract for 24 months, are you 110% sure you can call up and decrease to £21pcm straight away for rest of contract?

Also, would you then be able to downgrade further at any other point during contract?
#39
They will not waive the VAT on early cancellations as they are selling you the phone as well as the SIM service and VAT is chargeable on the phone. I tried it with the Samsung Galaxy S2 deal last year.
#40
I just talked to t mobile about this deal, the closest they can match (through phones4 u) is £21 per month, 300 minutes and texts, internet, with £150 upfront cost. What do you guys think?

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